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14 Year Old Florida Girl Has Baby In Toilet Then Chokes It To Death....DISGUSTING LITTLE BITCH!

 
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Clearly we should judge this girl and condemn her.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24586521


really, put yourself in her shoes...she probably has been raped daily by dad since she was 2 or 3......

what would you do to your dad, if when you were that age, he began rapping you....just think about it...how would you get away from the rapist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23667533


Where does it say she was raped by her father? I did not see that in any of the articles I looked up... Is this pure speculation on the part of the people saying this in this topic, or is there some other source that I have failed to locate?
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


The police didn't say who the father was....but it's not hard to figure out...MOM protects her husband, she knows the child is pregnant....i am believing the father was also an abusive bastard that beat the mom.....so she protects the man, or she gets beat....

the pregnancy test that showed no pregnancy NO DOUBT, she took it on herself...to protect her husband, ultimately keeping him from beating her and the child.
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Quit making shit up! Nowhere does it state she was molested by her dad..
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I'm seriously beginning to wonder about what Americans have against other religions. It's obvious that Christian LOVE and FORGIVENESS is full of it.
Goodnight and may your creepy crawly god go with you.
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She could have at least dropped it off at one of the police or fire stations, no one has the right to be taking someones life away simply because it's a hassle for them. Tragic, hope she pays for this heartless crime.
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How could she have done this without telling her parents? The girl can't drive. She didn't trust anyone. There is so much more to this story than meets the eye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123

How did she manage to not only pop the baby out without them knowing and make it to term without them knowing in the first place? Anyways new laws allow people to drop children off and remain anonymous.

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Exactly.
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I don't get you at all...You are anti-abortion but defend someone that strangles a 5 second old infant to death in cold blood?scratching

Based on what? Your assumption that it was somehow the parent's fault? That she could not POSSIBLY be responsible for her own actions because she is a minor??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24506246


Correct. Minor is based on age. Age is based on number. AGE has no bearing on mentality. This "kid" was fully aware she was going to have this baby on her own. She checked for a pulse and once found one, STRANGLED IT, to kill it. She fully knew she was having a kid in private and was going to kill it. She then took it to a whole other level but putting her baby's corpse in a FUCKING LAUNDRY BIN TO ROT. It was three days later that she told her mother she FLUSHED IT DOWN THE TOILET. OMFG this psychopath should be exterminated in the worst possible way but our humanity law says she can't. It's not even comprehensible that she may walk and breed again. Only in America.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


She should have help and at least be put in a mental institution where she can be evaluated. They will find out what went wrong. And I can tell you that it is her parents that went wrong. I always knew where my young daughters were. And at that age they were always at home. And we have a close relationship based on trust and still do now that they are older. These parents did not parent her. She was left to her own devices and of course failed miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


Lots of children are neglected and most do not end up as killers.

How about this; Do you believe a 14 year old BOY who has been abused and/or neglected should be charged with 1st degree murder as an adult if he...say.. pushed a baby stroller onto subway tracks? Or something similar?
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I'm seriously beginning to wonder about what Americans have against other religions. It's obvious that Christian LOVE and FORGIVENESS is full of it.
Goodnight and may your creepy crawly god go with you.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


That's cool. You know, I have'nt seen you make one post relevant to this thread anyway...lol
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I'm seriously beginning to wonder about what Americans have against other religions. It's obvious that Christian LOVE and FORGIVENESS is full of it.
Goodnight and may your creepy crawly god go with you.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


That's cool. You know, I have'nt seen you make one post relevant to this thread anyway...lol
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Thank God it's morning over there and it has to sleep sometime!
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oops if I would have read the article it says it there.

'Safe Haven' law

Under the 'Safe Haven' law, any fire station, hospital, or emergency medical service station with full time trained personnel will take custody of an infant, no questions asked, if the baby is no more than seven days old.

"If anybody needs this service, this 'Safe Haven', all of our stations, 45 around the county, are ready for them," said Brad Ruhmann, with Polk Co. Fire Rescue.

The law was enacted in response to the tragedy resulting from abandonment of newborns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384680


How was she suppose to get to this safe haven? Drive? It wasn't even safe for her to tell her own parents. She didn't feel safe anywhere. The parents are responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
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Clearly we should judge this girl and condemn her.
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Just like they would do in Saudi Arabia, kill the 12 year old girl for gettin raped.

Sexist pigs.
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I don't get you at all...You are anti-abortion but defend someone that strangles a 5 second old infant to death in cold blood?scratching

Based on what? Your assumption that it was somehow the parent's fault? That she could not POSSIBLY be responsible for her own actions because she is a minor??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24506246


Correct. Minor is based on age. Age is based on number. AGE has no bearing on mentality. This "kid" was fully aware she was going to have this baby on her own. She checked for a pulse and once found one, STRANGLED IT, to kill it. She fully knew she was having a kid in private and was going to kill it. She then took it to a whole other level but putting her baby's corpse in a FUCKING LAUNDRY BIN TO ROT. It was three days later that she told her mother she FLUSHED IT DOWN THE TOILET. OMFG this psychopath should be exterminated in the worst possible way but our humanity law says she can't. It's not even comprehensible that she may walk and breed again. Only in America.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


She should have help and at least be put in a mental institution where she can be evaluated. They will find out what went wrong. And I can tell you that it is her parents that went wrong. I always knew where my young daughters were. And at that age they were always at home. And we have a close relationship based on trust and still do now that they are older. These parents did not parent her. She was left to her own devices and of course failed miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


Lots of children are neglected and most do not end up as killers.

How about this; Do you believe a 14 year old BOY who has been abused and/or neglected should be charged with 1st degree murder as an adult if he...say.. pushed a baby stroller onto subway tracks? Or something similar?
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good point,what if right after the baby came out the father of it strangled it? then what?
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I'm seriously beginning to wonder about what Americans have against other religions. It's obvious that Christian LOVE and FORGIVENESS is full of it.
Goodnight and may your creepy crawly god go with you.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


Not all of us are cold hearted. Some here have compassion.
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oops if I would have read the article it says it there.

'Safe Haven' law

Under the 'Safe Haven' law, any fire station, hospital, or emergency medical service station with full time trained personnel will take custody of an infant, no questions asked, if the baby is no more than seven days old.

"If anybody needs this service, this 'Safe Haven', all of our stations, 45 around the county, are ready for them," said Brad Ruhmann, with Polk Co. Fire Rescue.

The law was enacted in response to the tragedy resulting from abandonment of newborns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384680


How was she suppose to get to this safe haven? Drive? It wasn't even safe for her to tell her own parents. She didn't feel safe anywhere. The parents are responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
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Her body, her choice. Not yours.
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Her body with another one inside that she murdered!
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I don't get you at all...You are anti-abortion but defend someone that strangles a 5 second old infant to death in cold blood?scratching

Based on what? Your assumption that it was somehow the parent's fault? That she could not POSSIBLY be responsible for her own actions because she is a minor??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24506246


Correct. Minor is based on age. Age is based on number. AGE has no bearing on mentality. This "kid" was fully aware she was going to have this baby on her own. She checked for a pulse and once found one, STRANGLED IT, to kill it. She fully knew she was having a kid in private and was going to kill it. She then took it to a whole other level but putting her baby's corpse in a FUCKING LAUNDRY BIN TO ROT. It was three days later that she told her mother she FLUSHED IT DOWN THE TOILET. OMFG this psychopath should be exterminated in the worst possible way but our humanity law says she can't. It's not even comprehensible that she may walk and breed again. Only in America.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


She should have help and at least be put in a mental institution where she can be evaluated. They will find out what went wrong. And I can tell you that it is her parents that went wrong. I always knew where my young daughters were. And at that age they were always at home. And we have a close relationship based on trust and still do now that they are older. These parents did not parent her. She was left to her own devices and of course failed miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


Lots of children are neglected and most do not end up as killers.

How about this; Do you believe a 14 year old BOY who has been abused and/or neglected should be charged with 1st degree murder as an adult if he...say.. pushed a baby stroller onto subway tracks? Or something similar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24506246


Boy or girl. Doesn't matter. When they are a minor they need help. Not death or prison for life. When they are an adult and show no sign of remorse then further action can be taken.
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oops if I would have read the article it says it there.

'Safe Haven' law

Under the 'Safe Haven' law, any fire station, hospital, or emergency medical service station with full time trained personnel will take custody of an infant, no questions asked, if the baby is no more than seven days old.

"If anybody needs this service, this 'Safe Haven', all of our stations, 45 around the county, are ready for them," said Brad Ruhmann, with Polk Co. Fire Rescue.

The law was enacted in response to the tragedy resulting from abandonment of newborns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384680


How was she suppose to get to this safe haven? Drive? It wasn't even safe for her to tell her own parents. She didn't feel safe anywhere. The parents are responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


I initially was going to reply to this that the kid wouldn't have got knocked up with responsible parenting, however, TODAY we are in 2012, not 1950. No matter how much "good parenting" kids get, they still are corrupt monsters with self-centered as their middle names. There needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. Parents suck at parenting, but kids suck ever harder as kids today.
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She sure looks remorseful huh?? She looks like my 10 year old neighbor.
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she looks like one very unhappy girl; that hates herself...again this child has probably been raped by her father DAILY since she was a baby.

The child needs counseling and a safe home...not jail

the Father needs to be sentenced to death; he isn't fit to live in society.
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children that have been brutalized. . . You are dealing with some deep wounds there to one so young. It can cause your maturation to regress. She needs help, not more brutalization from the system. Needs to get her mind right before anything. What she did went contrary to instinct.
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How was she suppose to get to this safe haven? Drive? It wasn't even safe for her to tell her own parents. She didn't feel safe anywhere. The parents are responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


I initially was going to reply to this that the kid wouldn't have got knocked up with responsible parenting, however, TODAY we are in 2012, not 1950. No matter how much "good parenting" kids get, they still are corrupt monsters with self-centered as their middle names. There needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. Parents suck at parenting, but kids suck ever harder as kids today.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Of course there needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. This liberal world is screwed up. But this child should be taken away from her so called parents and put in a home for minors where they can try to help her and keep her safe. Like I stated before, if she still shows no remorse by 18 then off to prison she should go. But her parents should not be let off the hook. What is bad is that no one cared about her to help her even though they knew something was wrong. I would have straight away taken my daughters to a doctor no matter what the pregnancy test showed. I would have considered myself just as guilty if this happened under my roof. I would be expected to be arrested as well as being a total failure as a mom.
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[link to www.theglobaldispatch.com]

She sure looks remorseful huh?? She looks like my 10 year old neighbor.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


she looks like one very unhappy girl; that hates herself...again this child has probably been raped by her father DAILY since she was a baby.

The child needs counseling and a safe home...not jail

the Father needs to be sentenced to death; he isn't fit to live in society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23667533


children that have been brutalized. . . You are dealing with some deep wounds there to one so young. It can cause your maturation to regress. She needs help, not more brutalization from the system. Needs to get her mind right before anything. What she did went contrary to instinct.
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That is why she needs to be in a mental institution right now where they can deal with this behavior. At least she will be safe from whatever was happening to her and from people who do not care about her.
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FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


I initially was going to reply to this that the kid wouldn't have got knocked up with responsible parenting, however, TODAY we are in 2012, not 1950. No matter how much "good parenting" kids get, they still are corrupt monsters with self-centered as their middle names. There needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. Parents suck at parenting, but kids suck ever harder as kids today.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Of course there needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. This liberal world is screwed up. But this child should be taken away from her so called parents and put in a home for minors where they can try to help her and keep her safe. Like I stated before, if she still shows no remorse by 18 then off to prison she should go. But her parents should not be let off the hook. What is bad is that no one cared about her to help her even though they knew something was wrong. I would have straight away taken my daughters to a doctor no matter what the pregnancy test showed. I would have considered myself just as guilty if this happened under my roof. I would be expected to be arrested as well as being a total failure as a mom.
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didn't mean a home for minors but a mental institution.
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Save your hate for the LOWLIFE paedophile who impregnated her.
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That!!!!!!
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Correct. Minor is based on age. Age is based on number. AGE has no bearing on mentality. This "kid" was fully aware she was going to have this baby on her own. She checked for a pulse and once found one, STRANGLED IT, to kill it. She fully knew she was having a kid in private and was going to kill it. She then took it to a whole other level but putting her baby's corpse in a FUCKING LAUNDRY BIN TO ROT. It was three days later that she told her mother she FLUSHED IT DOWN THE TOILET. OMFG this psychopath should be exterminated in the worst possible way but our humanity law says she can't. It's not even comprehensible that she may walk and breed again. Only in America.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


She should have help and at least be put in a mental institution where she can be evaluated. They will find out what went wrong. And I can tell you that it is her parents that went wrong. I always knew where my young daughters were. And at that age they were always at home. And we have a close relationship based on trust and still do now that they are older. These parents did not parent her. She was left to her own devices and of course failed miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


Lots of children are neglected and most do not end up as killers.

How about this; Do you believe a 14 year old BOY who has been abused and/or neglected should be charged with 1st degree murder as an adult if he...say.. pushed a baby stroller onto subway tracks? Or something similar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24506246
good point,what if right after the baby came out the father of it strangled it? then what?
 Quoting: betty189

The father was an adult so if he strangled the baby I would hang him high.
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FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


I initially was going to reply to this that the kid wouldn't have got knocked up with responsible parenting, however, TODAY we are in 2012, not 1950. No matter how much "good parenting" kids get, they still are corrupt monsters with self-centered as their middle names. There needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. Parents suck at parenting, but kids suck ever harder as kids today.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Of course there needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. This liberal world is screwed up. But this child should be taken away from her so called parents and put in a home for minors where they can try to help her and keep her safe. Like I stated before, if she still shows no remorse by 18 then off to prison she should go. But her parents should not be let off the hook. What is bad is that no one cared about her to help her even though they knew something was wrong. I would have straight away taken my daughters to a doctor no matter what the pregnancy test showed. I would have considered myself just as guilty if this happened under my roof. I would be expected to be arrested as well as being a total failure as a mom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


As a mother I can empathize with that but the fact remains that this kid was approached on numerous occasions about her possible pregnancy. Everyone denied it. The kid knew the baby was coming out when she was alone, and she PREFERRED it that way. If grandma is correct is stating she had the kid take two tests, and both tests were negative, then obviously the parents were BEING PROACTIVE! Everyone needs to get off the high horse and realize this kid is a psychopath.
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How was she suppose to get to this safe haven? Drive? It wasn't even safe for her to tell her own parents. She didn't feel safe anywhere. The parents are responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


I initially was going to reply to this that the kid wouldn't have got knocked up with responsible parenting, however, TODAY we are in 2012, not 1950. No matter how much "good parenting" kids get, they still are corrupt monsters with self-centered as their middle names. There needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. Parents suck at parenting, but kids suck ever harder as kids today.
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Also the kids are sucking as kids because of the parents. A good parent would have seen this coming from a mile away. They lived in a tiny trailer as well. Not to many places to hide there. And who walks around in baggy clothes and a blanket in Florida heat? No one unless you are trying to hide something.
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I'm seriously beginning to wonder about what Americans have against other religions. It's obvious that Christian LOVE and FORGIVENESS is full of it.
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Denmark? Don't you have some tulips to plant or cheese to eat or something? I mean, wtf do you know about anything? You're in freaking DENMARK.

Sorry, but it had to be said.
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Is ANYONE freaked out about the increased frequency of CLEARLY DEMONIC activity. What drives a person to do this. Do you all REALLY think it's just mental illness or drugs?
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This is a very sad situation. I have yet to read a post on this thread by anyone who became pregnant as a young teenager. Most sit in judgment of her without knowing her side of the story.

I got pregnant when I was 17 and hid it from my family and boyfriend (went to college when I started showing). i went to a fake clinic that convinced me I couldn't have an abortion and then a few weeks later it was too late to get one. I was in total denial. A few girls asked me if I was pregnant, but I said it was the Freshman 15. I wanted it to go away. It didn't. Two weeks before my due date, I called an adoption center. A woman picked me up when I went into labor and I spent two nights in the hospital. I had no idea what to expect. It was a FRIGHTENING process. At least I had some support from the hospital and the adoption counselor. This young girl had no one to help her.

I had a terrible home life and my BF was 1000 miles away. I did not know what to do. I kept thinking that this shouldn't be happening to me. I am a smart girl with a big future ahead of me. This happened to other people. I partially convinced myself it would go away on its own. I had options because I was away from my home. I cannot imagine what this poor girl went through, trying to hide it from her family. This is going to haunt her fro the rest of her life. There only be a few days in her life that she doesn't deal with this emotional hell. Every time she looks into the mirror she will see something relating to her pregnancy - the sagging breast, stretch marks, belly fat....It won't be easy for her.

Try to have some sympathy. Yes, it is horrible that a newborn was murdered. If this girl could relive the last 24 hours of her pregnancy, she would surely do something different now. She is very young and scared. Until you have walked a mile in her shoes, stop with the bashing. Instead of doling out vitriol, perhaps you could focus on creating a world where a child does not have to hide her pregnancy in fear of judgment. She did not kill the baby because she was possessed by demonic forces - she killed the baby because she could not deal with the judgment associated with the pregnancy. She was young and scared and had no idea what to do. She panicked. She had no support. She needs compassion.
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Seems like a whole lotta feminism apologist talk to me.
You spent 95% of the posts telling us how we should feel sorry for the poor girl,and a passing mention of the horrible thing she did.No..she killed another human in cold blood..therefore she will face the rap like any other murderer
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I am not a feminist. I am a compassionate, empathetic human being. She killed her newborn child. We all know that, so there is no sense in repeating the obvious. You are attacking her and you don't have the first idea what went on in her head. You cannot say that you would have behaved any differently if you were in the same situation. You are not a 14 year-old pregnant girl who is ashamed and humiliated because so many assholes like you who make the world a hostile place. If there were more compassionate people on this planet, this girl would not have had to hide her pregnancy and she would not have killed the baby.

Are you calling for the prosecution and execution of all the motherfucking soldiers who have dropped bombs on innocent populations? THEY ARE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER! They are adults who made an active decision to kill. Do you condone murder for political reasons? Is it okay to kill because it is down in the name of nationalism? Do you think that Killing isn't right if it is done for political reasons? Do you have sympathy for soldiers just getting back from a tour of duty that involved killing innocent people? Support the troops? Pay taxes to fund these atrocities? I am guessing that you do, and because you don't have the courage to stand up for your moral convictions, you take out your rage and frustration at targets like a scared, 14 y.o. girl who did something horrible and stupid instead of taking out your rage on people who physically torture other people for a living. Coward.
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I will never support abortion but other than that difference, I agree with you all the way!

Spot on Ms Nicaragua!

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oops if I would have read the article it says it there.

'Safe Haven' law

Under the 'Safe Haven' law, any fire station, hospital, or emergency medical service station with full time trained personnel will take custody of an infant, no questions asked, if the baby is no more than seven days old.

"If anybody needs this service, this 'Safe Haven', all of our stations, 45 around the county, are ready for them," said Brad Ruhmann, with Polk Co. Fire Rescue.

The law was enacted in response to the tragedy resulting from abandonment of newborns.
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How was she suppose to get to this safe haven? Drive? It wasn't even safe for her to tell her own parents. She didn't feel safe anywhere. The parents are responsible for this.
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FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
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she was betrayed, abused and God knows what else and she was too young to cope with that. Like a colt born in a storm that was the world she knew. What she did was contrary to a very powerful force, instinct. She is troubled beyond her immature capacity to cope. She was staying alive. I wonder if her life made her a bit feral, detached.
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Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
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I initially was going to reply to this that the kid wouldn't have got knocked up with responsible parenting, however, TODAY we are in 2012, not 1950. No matter how much "good parenting" kids get, they still are corrupt monsters with self-centered as their middle names. There needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. Parents suck at parenting, but kids suck ever harder as kids today.
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Of course there needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. This liberal world is screwed up. But this child should be taken away from her so called parents and put in a home for minors where they can try to help her and keep her safe. Like I stated before, if she still shows no remorse by 18 then off to prison she should go. But her parents should not be let off the hook. What is bad is that no one cared about her to help her even though they knew something was wrong. I would have straight away taken my daughters to a doctor no matter what the pregnancy test showed. I would have considered myself just as guilty if this happened under my roof. I would be expected to be arrested as well as being a total failure as a mom.
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As a mother I can empathize with that but the fact remains that this kid was approached on numerous occasions about her possible pregnancy. Everyone denied it. The kid knew the baby was coming out when she was alone, and she PREFERRED it that way. If grandma is correct is stating she had the kid take two tests, and both tests were negative, then obviously the parents were BEING PROACTIVE! Everyone needs to get off the high horse and realize this kid is a psychopath.
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That mom should not have taken a 14 year old word that the test was negative. Mom should have been in there with her to make sure she just didn't wet the test with water. No child can hide a pregnancy either. Mom should have taken her to a doctor especially knowing her 14 year old was sexually active! OMG. And you know she was having sex before that age. I would have FREAKED at my daughters if they would have had sex at that age. But then I home schooled them and kept an eagle eye on them. Now they are responsible adults. It is a mother's(and father's) job to be a guardian of their children no matter what. These parents failed and should be held accountable for their child's action along with said child.
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oops if I would have read the article it says it there.

'Safe Haven' law

Under the 'Safe Haven' law, any fire station, hospital, or emergency medical service station with full time trained personnel will take custody of an infant, no questions asked, if the baby is no more than seven days old.

"If anybody needs this service, this 'Safe Haven', all of our stations, 45 around the county, are ready for them," said Brad Ruhmann, with Polk Co. Fire Rescue.

The law was enacted in response to the tragedy resulting from abandonment of newborns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384680


How was she suppose to get to this safe haven? Drive? It wasn't even safe for her to tell her own parents. She didn't feel safe anywhere. The parents are responsible for this.
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FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
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she was betrayed, abused and God knows what else and she was too young to cope with that. Like a colt born in a storm that was the world she knew. What she did was contrary to a very powerful force, instinct. She is troubled beyond her immature capacity to cope. She was staying alive. I wonder if her life made her a bit feral, detached.
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You know it did. I hope she gets the help she should have gotten from her parents. To know that there is someone out there that actually cares about her.
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I'm seriously beginning to wonder about what Americans have against other religions. It's obvious that Christian LOVE and FORGIVENESS is full of it.
Goodnight and may your creepy crawly god go with you.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


Denmark? Don't you have some tulips to plant or cheese to eat or something? I mean, wtf do you know about anything? You're in freaking DENMARK.

Sorry, but it had to be said.
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Denmark knows about compassion for a child who should have never been in this position. EVER. Parental failure at its finest.
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FUCK YOU.

The parents didn't strangle the baby, the 14 year old girl did.

The parents are NOT responsible for this MURDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Yes, they are! The mother knew and didn't do anything about it. She should have hauled her to a doctor and gotten a REAL confirmation. She wouldn't have killed this baby if she had had responsible parenting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


I initially was going to reply to this that the kid wouldn't have got knocked up with responsible parenting, however, TODAY we are in 2012, not 1950. No matter how much "good parenting" kids get, they still are corrupt monsters with self-centered as their middle names. There needs to be a serious shift in consciousness. Parents suck at parenting, but kids suck ever harder as kids today.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Also the kids are sucking as kids because of the parents. A good parent would have seen this coming from a mile away. They lived in a tiny trailer as well. Not to many places to hide there. And who walks around in baggy clothes and a blanket in Florida heat? No one unless you are trying to hide something.
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She was hiding her pregnancy BECAUSE her parents would flip shit on her for getting knocked up at 13 for God's sake! What is so hard to understand that this kid got pregnant, wanted to stay slim shaddy about it in the most ridiculous way, and then brutally murdered a baby? She tossed it in a fucking laundry bin in the same room she slept in for days. Why are so many people compassionate with this case? She is 14 but that doesn't mean she has the mentality of a child. There are 12 and 13 year old girls out there going on 21 mentally. Everyone needs to get out of the Leave It to Beaver days and realize this kid did this on her OWN ACCORD!
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She should have help and at least be put in a mental institution where she can be evaluated. They will find out what went wrong. And I can tell you that it is her parents that went wrong. I always knew where my young daughters were. And at that age they were always at home. And we have a close relationship based on trust and still do now that they are older. These parents did not parent her. She was left to her own devices and of course failed miserably.
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Lots of children are neglected and most do not end up as killers.

How about this; Do you believe a 14 year old BOY who has been abused and/or neglected should be charged with 1st degree murder as an adult if he...say.. pushed a baby stroller onto subway tracks? Or something similar?
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good point,what if right after the baby came out the father of it strangled it? then what?
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The father was an adult so if he strangled the baby I would hang him high.
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Yes, if the father or a mother is an ADULT then prosecute them. But when they are children they at least need to be given a chance to see if they have a conscience or not. By 25 the personality is pretty much set so at 14 there is some hope for change.

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