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Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"

 
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Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
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where does it say this in the Bible? I am curious, can you post the verses for me?
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The Creation has its ending. It is not eternal. Kingdom of God is. Flesh cannot inherit.

... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50 …
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We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Proclaim NOT the Hell of the Churches of Men... In Their Words is No Mercy Found, Only the Makings of Satan

1/14/06 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear


Thus says The Lord:
Listen, all you churches of men! Shall I, even I, torment My beloved, those who are continually tormented by he who is and has torment in his vesture?!... Satan is the tormentor!...

By your own mouths have you unknowingly called your God, satan! Repent therefore, and mend your ways and your doings! Forsake all your corrupt and evil teachings!... Become again a child of God, and learn to walk uprightly in Me, leading others to Love, by love, not fear.
My children, the second death is that grave, from which one shall not be raised nor awakened. For they have been cast out, abiding in outer darkness, forever separated from God and their part in life. These know nothing at all, returning to that from which they were formed. Beloved, THIS is the eternal state of My punishment, for those who have chosen death; for they have rejected The Gift, wherein is life everlasting. So then those under condemnation are dead; in no way are they part of the living, nor are they living in torment... Their inheritance is lost, they have been blotted out, broken vessels of dishonor received by the earth once again.



Therefore, stop blaspheming your God!
And have greater understanding of My Mercy, which endures forever...

For My Son did sleep in the lower parts of the earth, His tomb,
For three days and three nights...

By no means did He descend
Into the evils of man’s imaginings!



HE IS THE PURE LIGHT!...

Never has He had any part in darkness!
Behold, He shall destroy it utterly!

For HE IS RISEN!...

And all those, who believe in Him and walk in His ways,
Shall also rise and live, meeting Him in the air...

And forever shall they be with their Lord and their God,
Where all shall find mercy and love.




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That, Which is Not of Me, is Against Me, and Comes From the Evil One... Says The Lord


6/9/10 From YahuShua HaMashiach, Jesus The Christ, Our Lord and Savior - A Letter Given to Jayse, For Patricia and Eugene, and For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Thus says He, who is true: Have I not made the matter known?... Beloved, have you not discerned?...


Tell Me, in this doctrine of eternal torment,
What fruit is displayed?...


Love?...
Joy?...
Peace?...
Patience?...
Kindness?...
Gentleness?...
Goodness?...

Mercy?!


Tell Me, then, if it bears none of these fruits, according to My own Spirit... Tell Me, from what spirit must this doctrine come from?... And upon what is it built?

Behold, I shall speak to it, once again: ANY, who hold fast to this false doctrine, of eternal torment, have not embraced Me in truth, nor do I know them... Neither does My spirit dwell in them. Refinement shall be their companion, in the Day of The Lord... I shall surely correct them... Even with a strong hand, of a loving Father, shall I discipline them.


Therefore, forsake this doctrine of demons,
And give it not a second thought...

Forsake any who come to you, teaching this doctrine,
For it is great blasphemy...



Come to ME, and embrace Me, as I am,
And I shall also embrace you...


And that, which was brought forth from a lie,
Even as a veil of darkness, to pollute My name and My teaching,
Shall be destroyed by the light of true understanding
And crushed beneath the weight of the Truth,
Which I am and can only be received in Me...

Says He who is faithful, He who is true.

Amen.



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Team Redundancy Team loves Hell so much that we actually choose to both live and die in perdition without a care for Heaven. They've got wings and a bit more freedom upstairs, but these can all be stripped for no fault of your own, and thus we keep to our massive turncoats. With these we can still traverse all worlds as we please so long as our earnest controversy is needed, and we still have the luxury of being able to take them off ourselves.
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
Romans 6:23 KJV
(23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Revelation 20:14-15 KJV
(14) And death and hell (the grave) were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(15) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
where does it say this in the Bible? I am curious, can you post the verses for me?
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God's Judgment is final & the Lake of Fire is eternal. Revelation 20:10(Mt 25:46); 2 Thessalonians 1:9; Hebrews 6:2; Jude 7

Non-believers have painful consciousness after death. Revelation 20:10;Lk12:5;13:28;16; Ezekiel 32:31-32; Matthew 3:12;5:21;13:42,50;22:13;25:41; Isaiah 50:11

Non-believers will perish.Lk13:3,5;Jn3:16;2Th2:9, be no more on earth. Ps104:35; Dt29:20, be destroyed.2 Thessalonians 1:9; 2 Peter 3:16; Matthew 10:28; 1 Corinthians 3:17; Philippians 1:28; James 4:12; Revelation 11:18

Destruction does not mean non-existence; Satan, beast, & false prophet will suffer forever in the lake of fire. Luke 21:16+18; 2 Thessalonians 2:8; Revelation 19:20;20:10.

Unbelievers are eternally punished there too. Matthew 25:41,46; Revelation 14:9-11;~19:3;~22:15
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Romans 6:23 KJV
(23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Revelation 20:14-15 KJV
(14) And death and hell (the grave) were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(15) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Revelation 20:15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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Can we get back to the posed question? or is everyone going to chime in on their knowledge of eternal damnation?
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Can we get back to the posed question? or is everyone going to chime in on their knowledge of eternal damnation?
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I did. You are a part of the Creation which will end. By fire.
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We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
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this is 100% satanic BS
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We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Baptism is a step/show/symbol of faith, after you've received grace.. I don't recall ever reading about any requirement of a baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
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Can we get back to the posed question? or is everyone going to chime in on their knowledge of eternal damnation?
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I did. You are a part of the Creation which will end. By fire.
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the creation ends by fire? The Creation does not end at all. It keeps growing
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Can we get back to the posed question? or is everyone going to chime in on their knowledge of eternal damnation?
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I did. You are a part of the Creation which will end. By fire.
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no, THAT didnt answer the question...but thanks
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Baptism is a step/show/symbol of faith, after you've received grace.. I don't recall ever reading about any requirement of a baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
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BS also. God requires no such ceremonies, these are of man. Grace is God allowing you all your errors while you mature your soul thru incarnation.
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Romans 6:23 KJV
(23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Revelation 20:14-15 KJV
(14) And death and hell (the grave) were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(15) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Revelation 20:15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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revelations is not complete and your devil people mucked up the little that is there. Those who turn down eternal life ARE uncreated. Has nothing to do with any lake of fire.
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Baptism is a step/show/symbol of faith, after you've received grace.. I don't recall ever reading about any requirement of a baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
 Quoting: ceawaves


Must We Be Baptized For The Forgiveness Of Our Sins?

In the second chapter of Acts, Peter had convicted the people there of having killed the Son of God. In verse 37 their question was, "Men and brethren what shall we do?" In verse 38 (KJV), "Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins." Here people were told to repent and be baptized for the remission of their sins. Only when we submit to baptism as the Lord has commanded, that is for the remission of sins to be saved, do we show our faith in the Lord. Only then will He save us.
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Romans 6:23 KJV
(23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Revelation 20:14-15 KJV
(14) And death and hell (the grave) were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(15) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Revelation 20:15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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revelations is not complete and your devil people mucked up the little that is there. Those who turn down eternal life ARE uncreated. Has nothing to do with any lake of fire.
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unfortunately your statements have NO basis to Scripture..
but hey, its GLP...im used to that..
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Baptism is a step/show/symbol of faith, after you've received grace.. I don't recall ever reading about any requirement of a baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
 Quoting: ceawaves

BS also. God requires no such ceremonies, these are of man. Grace is God allowing you all your errors while you mature your soul thru incarnation.
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You have Obviously NEVER read the Bible. Maybe I should have
prefaced my question to CHRISTIANS who have READ the BIBLE..
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Baptism is a step/show/symbol of faith, after you've received grace.. I don't recall ever reading about any requirement of a baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
 Quoting: ceawaves


Must We Be Baptized For The Forgiveness Of Our Sins?

In the second chapter of Acts, Peter had convicted the people there of having killed the Son of God. In verse 37 their question was, "Men and brethren what shall we do?" In verse 38 (KJV), "Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins." Here people were told to repent and be baptized for the remission of their sins. Only when we submit to baptism as the Lord has commanded, that is for the remission of sins to be saved, do we show our faith in the Lord. Only then will He save us.
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Corinthians 1:17
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

Acts 2:16-21

16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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Not saying anyone should not be, but it's not required for salvation..
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Baptism is a step/show/symbol of faith, after you've received grace.. I don't recall ever reading about any requirement of a baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
 Quoting: ceawaves

BS also. God requires no such ceremonies, these are of man. Grace is God allowing you all your errors while you mature your soul thru incarnation.
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You have Obviously NEVER read the Bible. Maybe I should have
prefaced my question to CHRISTIANS who have READ the BIBLE..
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I have read the entire bible. These things in the OT and NT are mans ceremonies, not gods. You don't even know what God is on this world, you are so deprived of knowledge you cannot reason. All cultures and races get avatars incarnate to teach, and this was the case with this small group in Israel.

The whole world was populated then and all received holy ones and all their books written by man after the fact and corrupted as shit. They do not describe how the creation is run ad how "god" functions. They are not aware of the hierarchy in charge of the show, the whole creation is MANAGED by MANY folks, angel and advanced man, The definition of God is so immature on this planet as to cause me to want to vomit my whole life everything I see shit like this.
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Sorry OP but you have OBVIOUSLY NOT read the bible.

You are repeating "STUFF and RUBBISH" you have been told when you were young and have never doubted what you were told.

You are NOT asking a for a confirmation of the bible you are asking the impossible IE that people disprove the inaccurate info you have been given.

The only quote i can accurately give is " all liars will have their place in the lake of fire " is TRUE.

For you to add HADES, etc is only another humans interpretation.

Go back to the bible Son !
Learn for yourself.
STOP listening to others UNLESS they can give you chapter and verse to prove it.

GOD BLESS
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I can't believe any rational adult still believes this mystical, fear based CRAP. Bible and religions are MIND CONTROL, wake up gullible simps!
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Corinthians 1:17
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
 Quoting: ceawaves


I'm SO encouraged to see someone else notice this verse. Here we see water baptism contrasted with the gospel. We can add John the Baptist's statement as well:

Matthew 3:11
I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

And 1 Peter 3:21
...and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also— not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Re. the OP's question, this isn't merely about crime and punishment. The deciding factor between heaven and hell is one thing, and the judgment of our actions in this life is another.

Heaven is the immediate presence of God, and whoever chooses to spend eternity with God as a citizen of his kingdom will go there on the basis of that choice alone. Conversely, whoever chooses not to spend eternity with God will be granted their wish.

Judgment happens after the destination is determined. For those in heaven, it serves the purpose of determining how many of our potential rewards we get to keep. For those in hell, it serves the purpose of determining how much suffering we must endure. And unless we are to believe that the rewards of the righteous are only for the length of their lives, then so also the punishments of the unrighteous would only be for the length of their lives. That is, if punishment is not forever, then neither is blessing.
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We are purportedly born in Sin and require baptism for eternal life and the forgiveness of our Sins. If we do not get baptized we spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

It occurred to me, we only live as sinners for a short span
of time. There is a seeming inequity between living a few
years on earth and then spending Eternity in the lake of fire.

Not to question God, but why wouldnt he just make the lake of fire experience equal to the years we lived in the flesh?

Just saying the punishment doesnt seem to fit the crime!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19816311


Baptism is a step/show/symbol of faith, after you've received grace.. I don't recall ever reading about any requirement of a baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
 Quoting: ceawaves

BS also. God requires no such ceremonies, these are of man. Grace is God allowing you all your errors while you mature your soul thru incarnation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24358110


You have Obviously NEVER read the Bible. Maybe I should have
prefaced my question to CHRISTIANS who have READ the BIBLE..
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Look, I have read the Bible, a few times cover to cover. There is so little mention of hell in there that it isnt funny. There is no eternal damnation for people that believe in God. Period. There is a lake of fire, only utilized at the end of times to cast satan into. For I believe a thousand years. A few souls will join him, those who are so evil, that even as they suffer at GOd's hands they will refuse to acknowledge Him. I am assured that my nam is in the book of life - not because I have been baptized, not because Iam perfect, but because i have faith, I believe, and I accept God's right over me. No where in the Bible does God or Jesus refer to Hell.
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Look, I have read the Bible, a few times cover to cover. There is so little mention of hell in there that it isnt funny. There is no eternal damnation for people that believe in God. Period. There is a lake of fire, only utilized at the end of times to cast satan into. For I believe a thousand years. A few souls will join him, those who are so evil, that even as they suffer at GOd's hands they will refuse to acknowledge Him. I am assured that my nam is in the book of life - not because I have been baptized, not because Iam perfect, but because i have faith, I believe, and I accept God's right over me. No where in the Bible does God or Jesus refer to Hell.
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Um... yeah, hell/eternal damnation is in fact mentioned, not only by Jesus but others as well. How do you explain those away, without the usual universalist spin?
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
Look, I have read the Bible, a few times cover to cover. There is so little mention of hell in there that it isnt funny. There is no eternal damnation for people that believe in God. Period. There is a lake of fire, only utilized at the end of times to cast satan into. For I believe a thousand years. A few souls will join him, those who are so evil, that even as they suffer at GOd's hands they will refuse to acknowledge Him. I am assured that my nam is in the book of life - not because I have been baptized, not because Iam perfect, but because i have faith, I believe, and I accept God's right over me. No where in the Bible does God or Jesus refer to Hell.
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Um... yeah, hell/eternal damnation is in fact mentioned, not only by Jesus but others as well. How do you explain those away, without the usual universalist spin?
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No, Jesus talks a few times about Gehenna, a place. The word hell and the concept of hell is the result of translations that may or may not be accurate. The only place the lake of fire is described is in revelations, and I have alreayd mentioned what it is for and how it is not permanent.
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
Sorry OP but you have OBVIOUSLY NOT read the bible.

You are repeating "STUFF and RUBBISH" you have been told when you were young and have never doubted what you were told.

You are NOT asking a for a confirmation of the bible you are asking the impossible IE that people disprove the inaccurate info you have been given.

The only quote i can accurately give is " all liars will have their place in the lake of fire " is TRUE.

For you to add HADES, etc is only another humans interpretation.

Go back to the bible Son !
Learn for yourself.
STOP listening to others UNLESS they can give you chapter and verse to prove it.

GOD BLESS
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Son? really? did you really just type that to me?

I gave a dozen scriptures from the Bible and your only
contribution is to call me "son" and go read the bible?
omg...thats rich...

Yes Dad...get back to your porn daddy..
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
Look, I have read the Bible, a few times cover to cover. There is so little mention of hell in there that it isnt funny. There is no eternal damnation for people that believe in God. Period. There is a lake of fire, only utilized at the end of times to cast satan into. For I believe a thousand years. A few souls will join him, those who are so evil, that even as they suffer at GOd's hands they will refuse to acknowledge Him. I am assured that my nam is in the book of life - not because I have been baptized, not because Iam perfect, but because i have faith, I believe, and I accept God's right over me. No where in the Bible does God or Jesus refer to Hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22851694


Um... yeah, hell/eternal damnation is in fact mentioned, not only by Jesus but others as well. How do you explain those away, without the usual universalist spin?
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


its indicative our our culture that likes to create its own reality...I honestly cannot believe the idiocy that this thread has become..

unreal...it was a simple question...
wow...
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09/28/2012 09:30 PM
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Re: Question about Hell (Hades).....aka "The lake of fire"
The only way to know the truth is to learn the original language, and read the original Bible. It was not a language like english. Many words have more than one meaning. All I can say, OP, is that you are seeing a hell where one does not necessarily exist. Go through the purest translation you can, and make a note of the times God or Jesus mentions eternal damnation and for what reasons. You will see that in the grand scope of the Bible it is mentioned very little. If at all really. Hell is not waiting for us. It is waiting for satan. Yes we will all have our judgement, but in the end we all will get a pardon if we want it, and can embrace God despite what we have done in our lifetime.

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