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Amid a growing food crisis, this morning workers from the City of Toronto were ordered by City of Toronto
Parks Director Richard Ubbens to remove all live plants and food from the People's Peas Garden in Queens Park. They were ordered to take the plants and food to the dump and lay sod overtop of this most beautiful free community food garden, without warning, without a chance to remove the rare heirloom plant species or harvest the food.

The garden was planted by Occupy Gardens and allies on May 1st, in defense of local and global food security. While the garden has been growing undisturbed for nearly 5 months, with the help of hundreds in the community, the city deliberately decided to have it removed upon the eve of the Autumn Jam: A Harvest Party and celebration of sharing, community and free local food, which is happening tomorrow from 12-6pm at the garden in Queens Park (northwest section).

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yah TPTB don't like it when we show how easy it is too grow our own food. cuts into their GMO profits.
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I think more and more cities and communities should start these things up.

We had this story in the UK here.

Allotments Lead to "Staggering" 51% Fall in Anti-social Behaviour.

In 2009, the early days of Landshare, Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall visited a community allotment for local residents in Leigh, Greater Manchester, as part of a River Cottage programme. Two years on, the allotments are thriving, and local police are amazed to find that anti-social behaviour has fallen by over 50% in the area.

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Amid a growing food crisis, this morning workers from the City of Toronto were ordered by City of Toronto
Parks Director Richard Ubbens to remove all live plants and food from the People's Peas Garden in Queens Park. They were ordered to take the plants and food to the dump and lay sod overtop of this most beautiful free community food garden, without warning, without a chance to remove the rare heirloom plant species or harvest the food.

The garden was planted by Occupy Gardens and allies on May 1st, in defense of local and global food security. While the garden has been growing undisturbed for nearly 5 months, with the help of hundreds in the community, the city deliberately decided to have it removed upon the eve of the Autumn Jam: A Harvest Party and celebration of sharing, community and free local food, which is happening tomorrow from 12-6pm at the garden in Queens Park (northwest section).

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They are either complete utter fools or there is something sinister going on.

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Toronto needs to handle its shit.
It's got bigger things to worry about than a garden.
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Amid a growing food crisis, this morning workers from the City of Toronto were ordered by City of Toronto
Parks Director Richard Ubbens to remove all live plants and food from the People's Peas Garden in Queens Park. They were ordered to take the plants and food to the dump and lay sod overtop of this most beautiful free community food garden, without warning, without a chance to remove the rare heirloom plant species or harvest the food.

The garden was planted by Occupy Gardens and allies on May 1st, in defense of local and global food security. While the garden has been growing undisturbed for nearly 5 months, with the help of hundreds in the community, the city deliberately decided to have it removed upon the eve of the Autumn Jam: A Harvest Party and celebration of sharing, community and free local food, which is happening tomorrow from 12-6pm at the garden in Queens Park (northwest section).

[link to toronto.mediacoop.ca]
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They are either complete utter fools or there is something sinister going on.
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It's possible to be both a fool and an evil slime sucker at the same time.
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Toronto needs to handle its shit.
It's got bigger things to worry about than a garden.
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Keep taking your pills and drink the coolaid.
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Amid a growing food crisis, this morning workers from the City of Toronto were ordered by City of Toronto
Parks Director Richard Ubbens to remove all live plants and food from the People's Peas Garden in Queens Park. They were ordered to take the plants and food to the dump and lay sod overtop of this most beautiful free community food garden, without warning, without a chance to remove the rare heirloom plant species or harvest the food.

The garden was planted by Occupy Gardens and allies on May 1st, in defense of local and global food security. While the garden has been growing undisturbed for nearly 5 months, with the help of hundreds in the community, the city deliberately decided to have it removed upon the eve of the Autumn Jam: A Harvest Party and celebration of sharing, community and free local food, which is happening tomorrow from 12-6pm at the garden in Queens Park (northwest section).

[link to toronto.mediacoop.ca]
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They are either complete utter fools or there is something sinister going on.
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I'd say both really!

It seems to me that the last thing they want people doing is coming together and finding better ways to do things and while doing that forming a true community where people all help each other out.
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Amid a growing food crisis, this morning workers from the City of Toronto were ordered by City of Toronto
Parks Director Richard Ubbens to remove all live plants and food from the People's Peas Garden in Queens Park. They were ordered to take the plants and food to the dump and lay sod overtop of this most beautiful free community food garden, without warning, without a chance to remove the rare heirloom plant species or harvest the food.

The garden was planted by Occupy Gardens and allies on May 1st, in defense of local and global food security. While the garden has been growing undisturbed for nearly 5 months, with the help of hundreds in the community, the city deliberately decided to have it removed upon the eve of the Autumn Jam: A Harvest Party and celebration of sharing, community and free local food, which is happening tomorrow from 12-6pm at the garden in Queens Park (northwest section).

[link to toronto.mediacoop.ca]
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They are either complete utter fools or there is something sinister going on.
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One can only assume it's a sinister control issue -- this is MY park, not YOUR park...
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Man, I LOVE gardens. I'm staying, temporarily, in a "planned" community where before he passed, my dad was fined $100 for ONE tomato plant in his own backyard. In a 5 gallon bucket none the less.

It's the first time in my life I haven't had a garden (even in crazy L.A. neighborhoods) and it's miserable without one.

I wonder if MONSANTO has anything to do with this crap. I wouldn't doubt it for a second if it did.
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What the community farmers need to do is organize and get the local laws changed to allow for a community garden BEFORE planting that garden.

Why was the garden taken out:

The reason? The people did not have permission to grow free food on public land.


That is from your link.

Why is that law there? To protect people from others who may plant other things that are not so nice and friendly as food. what if a person wanted to plant poison ivy, deadly night shade, hemlock and other toxic plants?

Come on, we all know that there are sick twisted people in the world who would have no problem planting toxic plants where kids play and might eat some of the plant.


Codes can really be easily changed in many circumstances, the same thing applies for having a front yard garden.

People get upset when these gardens are ripped out or the person is fined heavily as per the law, without understanding that these laws were made to keep property values up and to prevent people from growing things you may not want to have in your community.

Of course doing the right things first, such as checking the local codes and following a systematic approach to changing the laws/codes is required.

In this case, if the community farmers got together and make a strong case for a community farm, the local code makers most likely will set aside land for that sole purpose.

A lot of communities around the western World are moving toward 'co-op' and 'community food gardens' as a way to improve the neighborhoods. There is enough precedence on the books to demonstrate that this is a good idea.

Changing the local code also makes it easier for other co-op/community gardens to rise up in other neighbors, brings attention to the need and benefits of such.

If done correctly.

While it hurts to see this nice garden summarily executed, it wouldn't have happened if the farmers would have done the right things to begin with.

Lets hope that they now understand the local law/code and take the right steps to changing the law in Toronto, and even set about getting legal community farms placed here and there across the city.
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Man, I LOVE gardens. I'm staying, temporarily, in a "planned" community where before he passed, my dad was fined $100 for ONE tomato plant in his own backyard. In a 5 gallon bucket none the less.

It's the first time in my life I haven't had a garden (even in crazy L.A. neighborhoods) and it's miserable without one.

I wonder if MONSANTO has anything to do with this crap. I wouldn't doubt it for a second if it did.
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Thats crazy :( I take its the garden codes? Unsure of its proper name well apart from insanity that is but they tell people that they can only have grass on the front garden and such.
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Man, I LOVE gardens. I'm staying, temporarily, in a "planned" community where before he passed, my dad was fined $100 for ONE tomato plant in his own backyard. In a 5 gallon bucket none the less.

It's the first time in my life I haven't had a garden (even in crazy L.A. neighborhoods) and it's miserable without one.

I wonder if MONSANTO has anything to do with this crap. I wouldn't doubt it for a second if it did.
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No, Monsanto has nothing to do with 'planned' communities with a Home Association and all of these rules. That is an outgrowth of people who want their neighborhood to look pretty and have consistent (uniform) lots in order to keep the 'value' of the property as high as possible.

I will never move into a planned community with a HA just because more often than not the rules strangle a person.
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I'm surprised that the city didn't pave it. probably a good idea to have a friend on the city council before starting stuff like this. After all it was one of those Occupy things, right? Clearly someone wasn't amused.
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Toronto needs to handle its shit.
It's got bigger things to worry about than a garden.
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what the fuck is wrong with you?
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Amid a growing food crisis, this morning workers from the City of Toronto were ordered by City of Toronto
Parks Director Richard Ubbens to remove all live plants and food from the People's Peas Garden in Queens Park. They were ordered to take the plants and food to the dump and lay sod overtop of this most beautiful free community food garden, without warning, without a chance to remove the rare heirloom plant species or harvest the food.

The garden was planted by Occupy Gardens and allies on May 1st, in defense of local and global food security. While the garden has been growing undisturbed for nearly 5 months, with the help of hundreds in the community, the city deliberately decided to have it removed upon the eve of the Autumn Jam: A Harvest Party and celebration of sharing, community and free local food, which is happening tomorrow from 12-6pm at the garden in Queens Park (northwest section).

[link to toronto.mediacoop.ca]
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Ah, so they "occupied" a park and then the government came and restored it.
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There's plenty of community gardens in the neighbourhood, where they could have planted their peas & they wouldn't have been destroyed.

They chose to plant on the lawn of the provincial government. Occupy planted wastefully.
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. . . Ask yourself this: What is wrong with this picture of workers destroying a garden after 5 months. No normal garden lives that long anyway. Check the weather and see if they havenot had a couple hard frosts by now.

what couldhave been alive. Look at the date. My tomatoes are finished; my neighbor's entire garden is finished, including his tomatoes, and wearenot even that far North.

The workers did them a favour. All those plants were dead, and now they have a nice clean place to have their party.

Really, i smell a rat . . .
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They destroy the garden right before the BIG celebration?
A garden tended by hundreds of people? Sounds to me like Toronto city officials are trying to incite a riot.
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. . . Ask yourself this: What is wrong with this picture of workers destroying a garden after 5 months. No normal garden lives that long anyway. Check the weather and see if they havenot had a couple hard frosts by now.

what couldhave been alive. Look at the date. My tomatoes are finished; my neighbor's entire garden is finished, including his tomatoes, and wearenot even that far North.

The workers did them a favour. All those plants were dead, and now they have a nice clean place to have their party.

Really, i smell a rat . . .
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Well Hell, you jus done went and made some sense outta all this!!
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Toronto is the toilet of Canada and Quebec is the sower system.


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1) Re-plant garden in cold frame boxes.

2) Volunteers armed with guns guard the food 24-7.

3) City comes around to destroy it? Garden revolt.
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Read the story folks!! It was on the eve of community harvest and celebration jam party, it was allowed to grow for 5 months with no public parks problems.

But, the telling part of the story was that the group responsible went to Ottawa Capitol hill a week proof and planted a heart shaped garden on the lawn there only to have it stomped on by RCMP and threatened with arrests if not cleaned up.

So this destruction of the garden in Toronto probably came from higher ups in the Canadian govt. Betcha Harper knows a thing or two bout it.

Sad when this type of shite happens these 100 plus people that put time into a nice heirloom garden should be furious.
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Week *prior*
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Man, I LOVE gardens. I'm staying, temporarily, in a "planned" community where before he passed, my dad was fined $100 for ONE tomato plant in his own backyard. In a 5 gallon bucket none the less.

It's the first time in my life I haven't had a garden (even in crazy L.A. neighborhoods) and it's miserable without one.

I wonder if MONSANTO has anything to do with this crap. I wouldn't doubt it for a second if it did.
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Thats crazy :( I take its the garden codes? Unsure of its proper name well apart from insanity that is but they tell people that they can only have grass on the front garden and such.
 Quoting: Fhirinne


. . . that comes under ZONING laws.
People move into that neighborhood because they like that lawn look . . . and get mad when itis broken up.
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In healthier times, these actions would be met with swift community justice.
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Stuff like this just pisses me off! If I worked for the city, and my boss told me to destroy a public garden. I would go after my boss, and his/her family, to destroy what ever they had.

Even if they said: "I'm just doing my job." Fine!........you will get a fair trial, followed by a first class hanging! Just like the NAZI'S at Nuremberg.
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What the community farmers need to do is organize and get the local laws changed to allow for a community garden BEFORE planting that garden.

Why was the garden taken out:

The reason? The people did not have permission to grow free food on public land.


That is from your link.

Why is that law there? To protect people from others who may plant other things that are not so nice and friendly as food. what if a person wanted to plant poison ivy, deadly night shade, hemlock and other toxic plants?

Come on, we all know that there are sick twisted people in the world who would have no problem planting toxic plants where kids play and might eat some of the plant.


Codes can really be easily changed in many circumstances, the same thing applies for having a front yard garden.

People get upset when these gardens are ripped out or the person is fined heavily as per the law, without understanding that these laws were made to keep property values up and to prevent people from growing things you may not want to have in your community.

Of course doing the right things first, such as checking the local codes and following a systematic approach to changing the laws/codes is required.

In this case, if the community farmers got together and make a strong case for a community farm, the local code makers most likely will set aside land for that sole purpose.

A lot of communities around the western World are moving toward 'co-op' and 'community food gardens' as a way to improve the neighborhoods. There is enough precedence on the books to demonstrate that this is a good idea.

Changing the local code also makes it easier for other co-op/community gardens to rise up in other neighbors, brings attention to the need and benefits of such.

If done correctly.

While it hurts to see this nice garden summarily executed, it wouldn't have happened if the farmers would have done the right things to begin with.

Lets hope that they now understand the local law/code and take the right steps to changing the law in Toronto, and even set about getting legal community farms placed here and there across the city.
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The people should just plant 100's of poison ivy plants all over the place in any grass they can find in the city.
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Amid a growing food crisis, this morning workers from the City of Toronto were ordered by City of Toronto
Parks Director Richard Ubbens to remove all live plants and food from the People's Peas Garden in Queens Park. They were ordered to take the plants and food to the dump and lay sod overtop of this most beautiful free community food garden, without warning, without a chance to remove the rare heirloom plant species or harvest the food.

The garden was planted by Occupy Gardens and allies on May 1st, in defense of local and global food security. While the garden has been growing undisturbed for nearly 5 months, with the help of hundreds in the community, the city deliberately decided to have it removed upon the eve of the Autumn Jam: A Harvest Party and celebration of sharing, community and free local food, which is happening tomorrow from 12-6pm at the garden in Queens Park (northwest section).

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Man, when is it time to physically fight back?
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