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2Thess 2 is the second coming / falling away is from the law

 
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2THESS 2 appears to be speaking of the second coming:
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:


Also the falling away (apostasia) in 2Thess 2 looks to be a the falling away from the law, referring to Israel. Apostasia is only used one other time in the bible and it's in Acts 21:21 referring to departing from the law of Moses.
The falling away (apostasia) from the law happens and then the lawless one is revealed.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasia) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses (fall away from his teachings - law, "apostasia"), saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.


God Bless,
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Absolutely correct. In Nehemiah, they had to rebuild the wall and reteach the laws. Scripture reveals the "wall" means the laws, decrees and commands of God.

How did the wall and people fall? Because the merchants brought in merchandise to sell on the Sabbath. It enticed the people to buy on the Sabbath - which constitutes breaking the Sabbath. Once that happened, the rest of His laws were btoken.

In Ezekial 26, the king of Tyre (compared elsewhere to being Satan) says to Jerusalem "Aha! The gate is broken...I can prosper". Well, we know the "Gate" is Jesus.

Christians today have no concept that God's laws still apply. Why? Because they actually are NOT following Jesus when He says "Follow ME".

The reason this happens is found early in Genesis...after Adam was cast out of Eden, a cherub and a "turning flaming sword" are placed along THE WAY to the Tree of Life. We know that Jesus is THE WAY.

In Peter, it reveals this sword is a "turner of words".....so, this "turner of words" is to trip you up if MOVE OFF THE WAY, THE PATH..JESUS.

WHY? Because you are NOT obeying what Jesus (THE WAY) is asking you to do!!! Scripture then revealed this "turner" can be any of the following: regular people, Satan, the Godless and yes...disciples.

Simplest example - Jesus said He is "LORD of the Sabbath", yet peole still don't think it applies because they listen to PAUL and their own preachers! They listen to their own hearts for arguments supporting NOT wanting to do the Sabbath.
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Why did God station this "turning flaming sword" (the "turner of words)?

Because NO EVIL is allowed into the kingdom of God, to reach the Tree of Life. God tells us this back after Adam was sent out of Eden - because we now knew both good and evil, the WAY was going to be guarded.

He would not let man reach out his hand and take from the Tree of Life.

In my opinion, not until you do as He commands. If you don't, you are in rebellion. God knows exactly how we came to our decisions, he knows why we made our decisions. He knows who is plowing the Word for His Truth - just like you did OP.
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2Thess 2 is the second coming / falling away is from the law

2THESS 2 appears to be speaking of the second coming:
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:


Also the falling away (apostasia) in 2Thess 2 looks to be a the falling away from the law, referring to Israel. Apostasia is only used one other time in the bible and it's in Acts 21:21 referring to departing from the law of Moses.
The falling away (apostasia) from the law happens and then the lawless one is revealed.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasia) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses (fall away from his teachings - law, "apostasia"), saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.


God Bless,
 Quoting: ChristianMan


Very crafty how you attempt to turn things upside down.

If you want to live under the the Law of Moses vs the law of grace then you should just convert to Judaism.
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Very crafty how you attempt to turn things upside down.

If you want to live under the the Law of Moses vs the law of grace then you should just convert to Judaism.
 Quoting: ChristianMan

??? read my post again.
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Very crafty how you attempt to turn things upside down.

If you want to live under the the Law of Moses vs the law of grace then you should just convert to Judaism.
 Quoting: ChristianMan

I will explain. My point is that the falling away in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is a departure from the law, and not the rapture. That's how it looks to me anyway.

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