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Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)

 
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I didn't watch the video but I have to agree, there's no way to explain these ancient megalithic structures, but I don't think aliens are the reason for everything.
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Watched it and came to the same conclusion as the guy above. The 'debunker' very selectively ignores any of the REAL enigmas and only addresses the parts of the show I like to call 'hollywood claptrap', where the producers and 'experts' are obviously off course making sensatonal woowoo claims. What really got me was when the guy revises the estimated weight of a stone from something like 800 tons down to 'only' 120 tons or so... Like as if 120 tons is now some easily managed amount of weight to move... Then he completely ignores the fact that, if the pyramids were indeed made according to the accepted theory, the builders would have had to be quarrying out a stone block every 2 minutes 24/7/356 for the 30 odd years that the archaeologist claim it took. Even with a well planned assembly line setup, managing this feat is beyond comprehension, let alone the ability of modern stone-workers to manage. I would go on debunking this debunk, but do not want to get carpal tunnel from spending 2 weeks typing ;P
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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Watching later... But when i stop and watch it on tv, all they do is take things like biblical text and try to twist it. The bible says angels, dude says aliens. Pretty dumb, and he always looks like hes on meth lol. I know lots of people dont believe in god, but i was just showing how they take information and twist, and make a tv series out of it. Smart but im not buying it lol.bump
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Watching later... But when i stop and watch it on tv, all they do is take things like biblical text and try to twist it. The bible says angels, dude says aliens. Pretty dumb, and he always looks like hes on meth lol. I know lots of people dont believe in god, but i was just showing how they take information and twist, and make a tv series out of it. Smart but im not buying it lol.bump
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Yeah that is the REAL problem with the ancient aliens series, they do not try at all to separate the 'woowoo' from the legitimate, so you have to watch it with a skeptical mind. The only reason I ended up watching them all is because Tsoukalous is just too funny to watch, and watching his hair progress more and more into the mad scientist mop of the last few episodes is hilarious. Grigory is definitely a crackpot and is firmly in the woowoo camp in my book, but still good entertainment XD
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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I think the most shocking thing is the degree to which there appears to be a deception going on: History Channel lies... no doubt about it...

this segs nicely with my research--thanks!
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UN is ancient word for "satan."

How the deception works, IMHO...



My youtube links don't always work so I have compiled a list w descriptions, most of which is on youtube:


1)John Todd--

[link to www.youtube.com]

a) former high-level witch and illuminati and converted Druid Priest. Says that they run the show, especially drug trafic, and have more money than they know what to do with.
b) they will destroy economy or any company whenever it suits the objective--money no option. Rothchilds at top communing direct w lucifer.
c) Salem witch trials was actually one group of witches getting rid of another and Christians who were meeting to pray--Christians who pray obstruct the ability of witches to conjure and manipulate demons (see #2 below)
d) we can deduce that the persecution of cathars and the inquisitions and other witch burning pandemics may have had similar roots
e) ufos are demonic (even U.S. govt. w craft it could be argued, are simply occultists working wittingly or not to bring in “end times.”
f) interesting that William Bramley found historic ufo sightings before every major outbreak of the plague in middle ages AND hovering above the vatican.
g) He also says he used to pay off most of the large churches under his jurisdiction. You should see how big my mothers church is now, and how high-tech... looks like someone found a pot of gold... :) and now he has an Israeli flag as big as the American one, front and center of the Church above the alter. It becomes so obvious after a while--Israel is a puppet state to the Rothchild banksters.


2)Lucifer's Children

[link to www.youtube.com]

a) former Vietnam vet--compelling story about how satanists work, why they really don't like Christ followers and why he converted to Christ.


3) "former satanist shows everyday occultism"

[link to www.youtube.com]

a) another former satanist, he claims he was recruited to be a high priest with special abilities from a young age
b) lots of interesting aspects to above points
c) very "regular" type of guy--seems sincere.


4) The UFO phenomenon explained by MUFON researcher Joseph Jordan who claims that calling on Christ to alleviate the abduction phenomenon not only works, but is being covered up. Over 400 cases of this to date!

a)The family showcased at the end have been repeatedly mentioned on A&E Channel without ever mentioning that they are now healed of the abusive abduction phenomenon that plagued them.

b) It seems likely that there are many ways we can open ourselves up to demonic energies, especially when we do not follow rules of the bible or know about the occult knowledge. The latter is not fool-proof as the wisest man in the bible, Solomon, fell prey to his own hubris and the tales of former satanists and witches, etc are quite telling and similar: Jesus Christ is the only way out.

c) the ways to open ourselves up to demonic are all consciousness-based, ultimately, but include films, tv, music, mind-altering substances (I say this as a person who loves herb, but have stopped smoking), etc... Herb is probably a medicine that even Terrance McKenna said was abused by most and should only be used once a week, ideally.

[link to vimeo.com]

d) some of the top researchers such as Jaque Vallee and J Allen Hyneck were convinced the phenomenon was demonic/other dimensional...


5) "former illuminati" generally and Mark Cleminson specifically... [link to www.youtube.com] v=h63iNa0BcrQ

a) He was born into an illuminati family, was schooled by jesuits in special schools in Nepal and learned to meditate (open self to demonic energy), levitate and gain psychic abilities the illuminati and IBM specifically were planning to use him for bringing in the NWO and “end times.”
b) His story is very interesting, mirrors former satanists and exposes the New Age religions.
c) Again, Jesus Christ the only way out and he literally had to confront death when the order tried to get him back.
d) Great example of the spiritual rules that really exist and run things here.


6) Roger Morneau--1946 he got into Supernatural secret society... great guy, amazing story! [link to www.youtube.com]

a) Maybe one of the best “former secret societies” stories and probably the oldest on video record.
b) He got involved in 1946 and had many supernatural experiences
they used fear to compel members to “initiate”
c) He gives great back-story to the luciferian plan and how old it really is.
d) more insight into New Age religion being a luciferian trap.
e) Explains the three basic classes of “fallen angels” and how they confuse and manipulate us.
f) escaped certain death through Jesus Christ.
g) Perhaps the biggest deception is that people no longer believe in the supernatural or the likelihood of satan and dark principalities... the real x-files.


7) Recent BBC documentary on new evidence for the Shroud of Turin. [link to www.youtube.com] v=dr9_v5A4a2w

a) there are a few good docs on this now worth seeing and questioning, especially now that they admit the carbon dating was shite.
b) other researchers have uncovered that even the men involved in the original test were biased against the Shroud.
c) One of the men involved was found to have requested cloth from middle ages similar to the Shroud.
d) The other forensics on this are amazing and entertaining.


8) Carolyn Hamlett is a survivor from generational Illuminist bloodlines,

a) born w special abilities
b) worked w "ascended masters" who she names
c. says it's all a luciferian deception

“spared and delivered from its hold on her mind and life by her faith in God. Carolyn is a former "multi-generational server" in the Illuminati. She provides further evidence that humanity is the victim of a long-term satanic conspiracy that is entering its final stage. "I have known "The Plan" since I was a small child and have seen it carried out just as I was told it would be....It has been a very slow process to get people to the point where common sense is not so common."
She joins the ranks of Svali, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor and other whistleblowers exposing the mind control and unspeakable tortures being forced upon children and civilians by the military on behalf of the goals of Luciferian World Government.
As a person of high rank in "The Organization," Carolyn has seen and experienced Satanic horrors, and knows many details of "The Plan" to bring on the Antichrist and the NWO that she has been divulging in television and radio broadcasts and in her own writings”
Audio Interview

[link to www.theedgeam.com] interviews/Carolyn_Hamlett_08. 25.12.mp3


9) Chris Everard on the occult use of hallucinogens to access demonic energy:
[link to www.youtube.com] v=Chjz0lRAyFI&feature=related

a) Explains why and how hallucinogens are used by sorcerers who really run things, to access and manipulate demonic energy.
b) John Dee was the original 007--I thought this was cool!
c) All his vids are worth a look, though he has no apparent take on Jesus Christ.


10) Johanna Michaelsen - someone who was heavily involved in working with shamanism and being a medium also has an interesting story...

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

a) was born with special abilities
b) was being groomed to take over position with famous shamanic healer in mexico
c) took part in many amazing healing sessions performing brain surgeries and other amazing feats
d) concluded that it was demonic energy healing people (see Roger Morneau for how this is possible)
e) was even fooled by false Christ (see Carolyn Hamlett) and finally determined the only way for someone like her to eliminate the demonic was to study and follow rules layed out in Bible.

11) Dave Hunt has some interesting research on the origins of the push for yoga, new agism, etc... the history of yoga I thought interesting that it was developed to tune the body to communicate with other-dimensional hindu "gods" aka demons, again...

[link to www.youtube.com]


13) Randall Baer's extensive New Age experience echos the same again:

[link to www.youtube.com] v=QDvZUq4uBL8

14) The Net - The Unabomber. LSD and the Internet

a) the connections a German documentary make on how the decision to permeate our culture with hallucinogens, from the highest levels of TPTB, especially from scientific and arts culture.
b) unabomber to this day denies making bombs
c) unabomber took part in mind-control program at Harvard.
d) The interviews of famous intellectuals and artists who helped usher in the internet and the enslaving technocracy are funny and surprising.
e) shows that reality is what we make it, literally
f) God gives us a free-will and right now that is being manipulated by evil forces towards “end times.”

[link to www.youtube.com] v=doQAwLb-DEE

15) Jesuit Sorcerer history: [link to be] foreitsnews.com/alternative/2012/09/hidden-truth-jesuit-vatic​an-connection-to-the-unfolding-2012-new-world-order-agenda-2-​2469282.html

a) Appears to be well-researched article on the pervasive control of the jesuit order and how the only force that has been successful against these dark sorcerers is Protestant, real Christ believers, with a Bible and a gun.
b) Personally, it seems to be too late for a gun, though I am not in any way for gun control, but people might be better served just with Jesus Christ and a Bible given the modern weapons available to tptb now.
c) Youtube for more on this: Ex Jesuit Alberto Rivera and others Speak on Jesuit infiltration
d) the above, plus John Todd, Jordan Maxwell, Carolyn Hamlett, etc, all say churches given bad rap (Jordan says Churches are corrupted) by infiltration and other than Jordan they are saying this is by design to lead people away from spiritual power of Jesus Christ.


16) Professor Walter Veith on Supernatural and Evolution v. Creationism

[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

a) Start with his testimony--supernatural conflict brings on new understanding...
b) see all his well-documented lectures on Evolution and how the vatican has an agenda to make Sunday the official NWO religious day of worship, soon to be mandated.


17) Ken Peters - Visions for End Times

[link to www.youtube.com]

a) buckle your seat belts for this one
b) very prophetic--not sure what it means.
c) hope it doesn't happen--we are responsible.


18) All of the Youtube vids from The Prophesy Club are very telling and thorough. The Jesus Christ followers seem to me to be the most well-researched, radical and sincere of all the info on the net.

19) Music Industry and Hollywood as satanic

a) aside from John Todd, we have a clear pattern on youtube of satanisms pervasive influence, the worst for me being clear signs that Bob Dylan and John Lennon sold their souls for fame. (see 60 minutes interview w Bob Dylan sold soul)

[link to www.youtube.com]

b) This rabbit hole sadly covers most of the industry and artists I used to love
I still listen to and watch certain art forms, but it is clear there is a problem and I now prefer classical music. :)

20) Caryl Matrisciana- Spiritual Warfare

[link to www.youtube.com]

a) Grew up in India
b) Deception through new terms and “new-think” that seem reasonable
c) all cultures around the world based on the reality of the supernatural
d) Aum as the void out of which the word of God created;
altruistic love of Jesus Christ different from other religions in India, specifically, where religion, more than in West, serve as a means of oppression of truth and spirit; caste system.
Jesus to rule in Jerusalem - reason for its importance globally.
Eastern arts, yoga-->”giving up your mind-->designed to waken the snake/commune w demon energy--> self-oriented. “Yolk with braman energy.”
Anyone who does not agree with New Age/NWO?UN/satanic religion will be rounded up as part of the problem.
The New Age science is designed to prove “we are all one” so that the part of us that is perceived as bad can be rounded up into FEMA camps.

nytimes on Yoga and philandering (more ego)
[link to www.nytimes.com]


21) short clip--CSPAN, ufos & a false flag future--Rep. John Haller, PA


[link to www.youtube.com]



Bare in mind I do not belong to any church and based on my research now prefer to live a Christ-centered life by reading the bible, prayer and research in ALL fields.
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What really got me was when the guy revises the estimated weight of a stone from something like 800 tons down to 'only' 120 tons or so... Like as if 120 tons is now some easily managed amount of weight to move...
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You do realize that Herod rebuilt the Jerusalem Temple with a retaining wall that includes one stone whose weight & size measures 13 meters and weighs approximately 570 tons.


Oh we have Historical proof that this was done by Herod starting in 19 BC, using Roman building techniques
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i love the poetry of this life:

EENBOOM: "Elephants ran in panic..." :)

these dudes will say anything...

and pigs were flying to the moon... no one could stop them...

NOTICE: the import of "channeled" info... from where... hmmm, I wonder...

:)
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Oh we have Historical proof that this was done by Herod starting in 19 BC, using Roman building techniques
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You have historical proof that they used the techniques of a culture who has never proved themselves able to lift anything remotely close to 570t?... Really?


Oh and as for the video... Lol it's just a showcase of how having desperate denial makes your brain fail in such a horrific way that your own logic makes you debunk your debunking of what your debunking should have debunked...
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I watched this video. The guy is really grasping to debunk this stuff. Kind of like someone in denial.

He avoids obvious things like being able to hoist an 800 ton block and move it a mile or couple of miles. AND he offers no solution other than what mainstream lying scientists postulate.

To put this in perspective, since I work with vessels in the 100 ton to 10,000 ton range, lifting a 100 ton object today with our best technology is a monumental feat. The video producer completely avoids the fact that these "Ancient" humans (humans their own science says were eating with wooden spoons) were lifting 800 plus ton blocks and carrying them for miles. It is preposterous. You can't try to debunk one theory and offer laughable theories to replace it.

The video also fails to mention many other similar instances. He comments on parts of Balbek construction but conveniently avoids the portions that were again impossible by human standards of that day. Again, impossible.

This very day, right now in reality, we humans with our 'advanced' technology simply could not replicate many of these sights. Let alone. Believe that Indians wearing loin cloths just thought up plans for say the great pyramid or the mountain top stones of Balbek and Peru.

The video wishes that ancient cave dwelling people did these things.

In my opinion the video FAILS MISERABLY.

NOW, that doesn't mean that it was aliens. I understand the alien agenda and perhaps they weren't involved in the construction of these sights. But that would mean there had to have been a civilization before us that completely trumped us and shamed us by their advanced evolution and technology. What other explanations can their be??

We have many depictions of flying craft in ancient art all over the world. The video again conveniently avoids tackling that issue.

I could go on and on but who cares.

This video fails. Don't waster your time watching it.
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I watched this video. The guy is really grasping to debunk this stuff. Kind of like someone in denial.

He avoids obvious things like being able to hoist an 800 ton block and move it a mile or couple of miles. AND he offers no solution other than what mainstream lying scientists postulate.

To put this in perspective, since I work with vessels in the 100 ton to 10,000 ton range, lifting a 100 ton object today with our best technology is a monumental feat. The video producer completely avoids the fact that these "Ancient" humans (humans their own science says were eating with wooden spoons) were lifting 800 plus ton blocks and carrying them for miles. It is preposterous. You can't try to debunk one theory and offer laughable theories to replace it.

The video also fails to mention many other similar instances. He comments on parts of Balbek construction but conveniently avoids the portions that were again impossible by human standards of that day. Again, impossible.

This very day, right now in reality, we humans with our 'advanced' technology simply could not replicate many of these sights. Let alone. Believe that Indians wearing loin cloths just thought up plans for say the great pyramid or the mountain top stones of Balbek and Peru.

The video wishes that ancient cave dwelling people did these things.

In my opinion the video FAILS MISERABLY.

NOW, that doesn't mean that it was aliens. I understand the alien agenda and perhaps they weren't involved in the construction of these sights. But that would mean there had to have been a civilization before us that completely trumped us and shamed us by their advanced evolution and technology. What other explanations can their be??

We have many depictions of flying craft in ancient art all over the world. The video again conveniently avoids tackling that issue.

I could go on and on but who cares.

This video fails. Don't waster your time watching it.
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Oh we have Historical proof that this was done by Herod starting in 19 BC, using Roman building techniques
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You have historical proof that they used the techniques of a culture who has never proved themselves able to lift anything remotely close to 570t?... Really?

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Flavius Josephus records that Herod the Great completely rebuilt the Temple, even going so far as to replace the foundation stones

In preparation to execute his building project, Herod acquired a thousand wagons (with oxen) to transport the stones from the quarry to the building site, hired 10,000 skilled workmen and trained 1,000 priests as masons and carpenters, for only priests could build the Temple proper (Ant. 15.11.2; 389-90). The huge blocks of stone were fit into place by means of ramps and pulleys (M. ben-Dov, In the Shadow of the Temple, 84). Herod's Temple was under construction from c. 20/19 BCE until 63, just before its destruction by the Romans,
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Flavius Josephus records that Herod the Great completely rebuilt the Temple, even going so far as to replace the foundation stones

In preparation to execute his building project, Herod acquired a thousand wagons (with oxen) to transport the stones from the quarry to the building site, hired 10,000 skilled workmen and trained 1,000 priests as masons and carpenters, for only priests could build the Temple proper (Ant. 15.11.2; 389-90). The huge blocks of stone were fit into place by means of ramps and pulleys (M. ben-Dov, In the Shadow of the Temple, 84). Herod's Temple was under construction from c. 20/19 BCE until 63, just before its destruction by the Romans,
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So you mean to tell me that the 'ramp and pulleys' thing are an exclusive Roman 'thing'?
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Sure, and ancient rulers NEVER took credit for things they had nothing to do with, nope.. that NEVER happened at all...
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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Flavius Josephus records that Herod the Great completely rebuilt the Temple, even going so far as to replace the foundation stones

In preparation to execute his building project, Herod acquired a thousand wagons (with oxen) to transport the stones from the quarry to the building site, hired 10,000 skilled workmen and trained 1,000 priests as masons and carpenters, for only priests could build the Temple proper (Ant. 15.11.2; 389-90). The huge blocks of stone were fit into place by means of ramps and pulleys (M. ben-Dov, In the Shadow of the Temple, 84). Herod's Temple was under construction from c. 20/19 BCE until 63, just before its destruction by the Romans,
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So you mean to tell me that the 'ramp and pulleys' thing are an exclusive Roman 'thing'?
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lol not much of a rebuttal, the truth is stones of this size (Over 500 tons)have been proven by historical records to have been cut and been placed by man


Sorry NO ALIENS involved
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Augustus Caesar transported (around 27BC) two obelisks from the Sun Temple in Heliopolis. It was the first transport of obelisks to Rome. The obelisks are now in the Piazza del Popolo (235 tons), and the Piazza di Montecitorio (230 tons)

Again, no aliens or 'Atlantis survivors' involved
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lol not much of a rebuttal, the truth is stones of this size (Over 500 tons)have been proven by historical records to have been cut and been placed by man

Sorry NO ALIENS involved
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Rebtual?... Well, first of all... Understand what I asked, NOT what you automatically chose to deduce i asked...Read my initial question again...

I'm not claiming that aliens did jackshit with those stones... I countering your half-assed 'proof' which is based on what 'was once written by some individual' and that you chose to season with a half-assed 'proof backup detail' such as someone would be copying the technique of the most half-assed mediocre technique copycatting culture of the that age.

You have no proof, you have trust in a theory that is based on a record which is accepted to be true because it's THOUGHT to be true and not PROVEN to be true... Just like the Ancient Alien...
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lol not much of a rebuttal, the truth is stones of this size (Over 500 tons)have been proven by historical records to have been cut and been placed by man

Sorry NO ALIENS involved
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Rebtual?... Well, first of all... Understand what I asked, NOT what you automatically chose to deduce i asked...Read my initial question again...

I'm not claiming that aliens did jackshit with those stones... I countering your half-assed 'proof' which is based on what 'was once written by some individual' and that you chose to season with a half-assed 'proof backup detail' such as someone would be copying the technique of the most half-assed mediocre technique copycatting culture of the that age.

You have no proof, you have trust in a theory that is based on a record which is accepted to be true because it's THOUGHT to be true and not PROVEN to be true... Just like the Ancient Alien...
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Since you're an expert on the subject, please enlighten us
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lol not much of a rebuttal, the truth is stones of this size (Over 500 tons)have been proven by historical records to have been cut and been placed by man

Sorry NO ALIENS involved
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Rebtual?... Well, first of all... Understand what I asked, NOT what you automatically chose to deduce i asked...Read my initial question again...

I'm not claiming that aliens did jackshit with those stones... I countering your half-assed 'proof' which is based on what 'was once written by some individual' and that you chose to season with a half-assed 'proof backup detail' such as someone would be copying the technique of the most half-assed mediocre technique copycatting culture of the that age.

You have no proof, you have trust in a theory that is based on a record which is accepted to be true because it's THOUGHT to be true and not PROVEN to be true... Just like the Ancient Alien...

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Well said...

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10/01/2012 07:23 PM
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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
Since you're an expert on the subject, please enlighten us
 Quoting: mathetes

With what? I'm just asking you for proof of your statement and you tell me that we have a record?.

We are not having a record that *proves* something, we have a record that *indicates* something and you have chosen to *believe* that indication...
Just like the ancient alien guys did choosing their belief.
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10/01/2012 07:29 PM

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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
Since you're an expert on the subject, please enlighten us
 Quoting: mathetes

With what? I'm just asking you for proof of your statement and you tell me that we have a record?.

We are not having a record that *proves* something, we have a record that *indicates* something and you have chosen to *believe* that indication...
Just like the ancient alien guys did choosing their belief.
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I gave you citations of the building of the Jewish Temple and of Augustus Caesar transporting Egyptian Obelisks (weighing over 230 tons) to Rome. Until you give an alternate reasonable view, I'll stick with them.
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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10/01/2012 07:36 PM
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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
I gave you citations of the building of the Jewish Temple and of Augustus Caesar transporting Egyptian Obelisks (weighing over 230 tons) to Rome. Until you give an alternate reasonable view, I'll stick with them.
 Quoting: mathetes

Oh I understand now... So You just confused yourself with the concept of 'proof' and a 'reasonable view' when you posted about proof of someone using roman techniques.

Well okay then... Is it a reasonble view to think that someone used roman techniques? yeah i think so, well it's not unreasonable.
But proof? Nope!
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10/01/2012 07:41 PM

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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
I gave you citations of the building of the Jewish Temple and of Augustus Caesar transporting Egyptian Obelisks (weighing over 230 tons) to Rome. Until you give an alternate reasonable view, I'll stick with them.
 Quoting: mathetes

Oh I understand now... So You just confused yourself with the concept of 'proof' and a 'reasonable view' when you posted about proof of someone using roman techniques.

Well okay then... Is it a reasonble view to think that someone used roman techniques? yeah i think so, well it's not unreasonable.
But proof? Nope!
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I think the 'proof' is Egyptian obelisks in Rome.
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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10/01/2012 07:54 PM
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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
I think the 'proof' is Egyptian obelisks in Rome.
 Quoting: mathetes

Sorry, but what you think is not a proof.

You don't have proof and neither do the ancient alien guys... the difference is, even though you're both based on a *belief*, they just have 'a theory' and you have an 'accepted theory' because of more believers.
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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
I think the 'proof' is Egyptian obelisks in Rome.
 Quoting: mathetes

Sorry, but what you think is not a proof.

You don't have proof and neither do the ancient alien guys... the difference is, even though you're both based on a *belief*, they just have 'a theory' and you have an 'accepted theory' because of more believers.
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Ok, I see you just like to argue without adding anything at all to the discussion.
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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10/03/2012 08:26 AM
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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
I belive it all came from the fallen angels, and how the stones got lifted where from the giants that where once here. I still need to watch the video lol
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10/03/2012 08:39 AM
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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
You people are retarded.
Ancient Aliens stars a dude who can't speak, and has Don King hair.
You can't honestly think this is a "news based" documentary.

It's a TV show.

Nobody should give a rat's ass about the "reality" of it.

NBC, MSNBC edits 911 calls, and presents that as "fact", I bet you asshammers believe that too.
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10/03/2012 08:48 AM
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So let see if i understand correctly...

The show gets "canceled" mid-season, no official explanation is given, and 4 months later a 3 hour long professionally made documentary is released to debunk the entire series and discredit all those involved.

Yeah sure, i would probably jump on that wagon if it didn't stink like a fishy clean up job. They want these guys silenced. Funny cause we were just about to see episode 12: Aliens and Cover-Ups

But im sure this greatly put video will reprogram us to think it was just a big misunderstanding and the theory of ancient aliens is as ridiculous as evolution while we're at it.

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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
Really?
The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life
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10/03/2012 09:14 AM
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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Movie)
Be cool if the aliens put out a movie debunking the ones who think they're in charge.

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