Catholicism is not Christianity this is why

Very interesting topic. I haven't had time to read your book but I appreciate the link. I will save it. I have been attending Messianic Jewish sevices for a couple of months now and my tounge in cheek response to the reasoning why women were't allowed to participate in certain roles in the Judaic community...The men should have to do something...I mean the women do pretty much everything else. :) Peace and Love.

Excellent comeback!

The thing is, male service always looks like rule, and female service always looks like service. What a coincidence, eh?

NO religion has it right ... it's not contradictory

I don't say I have it right .... I listen to EVERYONE

and go from there ...I don't belong to religiousity, or churchianity ...

but we need to ALL stop thinking we have all the answers

I've had to admit myself wrong over and over and over ....
each layer of scripture and now reading books of antiquity I've gained greater knowledge but still don't have all the answers
and my brothers and sisters are to busy fighting over the small stuff they will never get to the MEAT !

stop the popetards pls.

The statement, "no religion has it right" is self-contradictory because you are setting yourself up as the judge and arbiter of what is "right", while denying any religion to do the same thing. If it's wrong for religions to declare what is right, then it's wrong for you as well.

As for listening to everyone, it seems to me that you're listening to no one, or at least not to anyone who sincerely believes they have it right. You made a blanket declaration of "wrong" to all such people, without any basis or authority to do so.

I'm not part of any church as tradition has had it, but follow Jesus and get together with other such followers at any opportunity. No rituals, no rites, no priests besides Jesus. This is truly a relationship rather than mere religion.

So if you want ALL people to stop thinking they have all the answers (apparently you didn't see my signature here), then start with yourself; you declare millions of people wrong without any reason or authority to do so.

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Last Edited by OldmanO on 09/30/2012 02:34 PM

you guys can't even understand what my point is ....

I know what you're trying to say, but you don't know how ironic it is to do the very thing you're telling religions not to do.

You do NOT know whether they're all wrong.

If it's wrong for religions to claim something about all the other religions, it's no better for you to claim it about all of them.

Ever heard of the law of non-contradiction? So if there is one true God, then all claims to other gods must be false. This is simply a statement of conviction, not arrogance. Can't people believe something is true if they want? And isn't it logical to conclude that whatever contradicts that truth must be false?

I'm trying to show you how your claim is fallacious and ironic.

What if we are all worshiping the same GOD but deception and distortion is so great the world is deceived ?

There is ONE Supreme being .... I am not contradicting that

I am saying we are all worshiping the same ONE ...you are just deceived thinking everyone else worships the strange GODs

and of course you won't believe this because your religion and denomination is the only truth

have you read the Gita, the koran etc ? ... I suggest you do .... If you do with an open mind you will be amazed


WE are all waiting for the same God ..The God from the East, Star of the dawn, morning star, God riding a white horse, Star of the dawning ... etc

Christians are wasting precious time are fighting over which denomination is right ....

when they should be studying and verifying everything everywhere ....

PS. the bible has been horribly translated and watered down over many translations

remember that game TELEPHONE ....the first person whispers in ear and time it gets to last person the story changes ....

well, that's the bible

Irishkraut,

If we were all worshiping the same God then we wouldn't have any contradictions. For example, the God of the Bible says "I am God and there is no other; I am God and there is none like me." The Bible tells us what God is like, and Jesus was/is the ultimate expression of God. So any god that rejects Jesus or contradicts the Bible cannot be the same God. The apostle Paul told the Greeks that in the past God overlooked the ignorance of the false gods, but now that Jesus has risen from the dead, there are no more excuses. This is a very exclusive claim, to require faith in the risen Jesus. No other religion has this. Therefore, they are all false.

And don't call me deceived unless you want the same charge made against you. And of course you won't believe you're deceived because you think everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Very arrogant of you. And yes, I've read the Koran, the Book of Mormon, and the Bible in Greek, as well as done a lifetime of study on every conceivable topic regarding faith and religion. Your presumption that I have not is a very typical but tiring and baseless charge, stemming once again from the arrogance that presumes disagreement can only come from ignorance or stupidity.

So unless you're willing to stop with the insults, don't expect me to keep responding.

PS: Are we only allowed to do one thing at a time, arrogant Irishkraut? Can't we stand for the Way, the Truth, and the Life while also helping the poor? Also, the telephone game charge does NOT apply when we have extant manuscripts so incredibly close to the originals. Compare the NT to any other ancient text and see if it even comes close in terms of either closeness to the original time or sheer quantity of supporting documentation.

Well, that's the truth, and you can do with it whatever you choose.

The King James version of the Christian bible is not the
same text the Catholics use and call 'bible'.

The Christian Bible is the result of the work of Martin
Luther who began the Protestant movement and released
scripture from among Catholic catacombs where it was being
held in secret from the world, from the time of the
persecution of the apostles of Christ to the 1400's.

In fact, the same organization of men that hunted down
and slaughtered the apostles of Christ, after his crucifixion
are the ones who organized the Spanish Inquisition, which
was the base and the beginning of the Catholic Church.

Totally focused on male domination of membership,
the Catholic church of today refuses to recognize the
resurrection of Christ, and in every single church,
displays the crucifixion for worship, rather than the
resurrected and living, Christ.

Catholicism and Christianity

Are not the same but one day they might find peace if all see the one truth that we are one in that love is all we need

like a father loves is son so deos the son love his father!!!


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The Catholic church NEVER refuses to recognize the resurrection of Christ.

There will be a LIE circulated soon around the world that Jesus never crucified. Then you will realize why this crucifixion rather than resurrection.

God's first commandment says to have no other gods. They can claim Jesus, but they will need to claim ONLY Jesus. There can be no unity with Islam no universal catholike.