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lets see..your from india..aahh..snap I know why your say this crap..

u got turned down on your a1 visa..huh?

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There's always law school!
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(now, that was funny :))

[link to www.collegiatetimes.com]

"Frustrated with their unemployment, law graduates are suing their alma maters, accusing their schools of false employment and salary data.

Earlier this month, eight law firms took to the allegations and banded together to sue 12 law schools. The main allegations revolve around the premise that these law schools lured in graduates with high percentages of employment post-graduation and inflated salary statistics.

These class action lawsuits join three others that were filed in 2011 against New York Law School and the Thomas M. Cooley Law School. In total, more than 70 graduate students and 15 law schools dispersed across the country are involved."

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Good. Lying and false advertising should come with consequences. But we all know the taxpayer will be on the hook for the awards when it should be the schools taking the hit.
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
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That is not true.


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No, it is not true. A young man in my family went to college on the GI bill, took organic chemistry, and now has a Phd. in organic chemistry. He is now working for the government making big bucks with job security.

So for some college has been a dream, and some have made that dream come true with flying colors!
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We all know there are so many of those jobs to go around. Did you have some kind of point by posting that?
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The Next Subprime Crisis Is Here: Over $120 Billion In Federal Student Loans In Default
Whereas earlier today we presented one of the most exhaustive presentations on the state of the student debt bubble, one question that has always evaded greater scrutiny has been the very critical default rate for student borrowers: a number which few if any lenders and colleges openly disclose for fears the general public would comprehend not only the true extent of the student loan bubble, but that it has now burst. This is a question that we specifically posed a month ago when we asked "As HELOC delinquency rates hit a record, are student loans next?" Ironically in that same earlier post we showed a chart of default rates for federal loan borrowers that while rising was still not too troubling: as it turns out the reason why its was low is it
[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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This is one piece of the triple-whammy that comes from the f'd up U.S. education system telling ALL kids they should go to college. Back in my day, there were TRADE schools where about 50% of the kids went instead of college. There they learned to do something useful, like make things, fix things, work in factories, etc.

Now that everyone thinks they should go to college ("a mind is a terrible thing to waste?) we have a whole generation of college students who:

1. Can't pay for it .
2. Can't get a job when they graduate with a degree in "communications"
3. Aren't providing the skilled labor the U.S. needs to remain economically competitive.

This country is fucked.
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
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That is not true.
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Agreed, my immense education and exuberant debt far beyond the average of students has made me your family doctor. So enjoy the care on your insurance or government welfare medicare/medicaid which refuses to pay me at my expense. I am denied for the majority of services I render to patients on a daily basis and those they do cover are monthly being slashed. It has put not just my family collateral (to secure loans for a practice and equipment), but my employees lively hoods at risk. (TRUE STORY)

However when the tap does dry up, I will be able to be a service for trade and barter, which is more than most students can say with their degrees.
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It is so bad my dr. is considering closing the practice.
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Good

They are overpriced anyway, and the dumb clucks of this country allowed it to happen
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Oh, OP, we didn't allow it to happen... it happened surreptitiously, without our knowledge.

Things like:

- making it illegal to grow plants for medicinal purposes – passed into law way back in the 1920’s or 30’s

- allowing drug companies to gouge the consumer for 20 yrs before the same drug is allowed to be reproduced by other companies, there by bringing the price of that drug way down.

- supporting countries and sending aide to countries we, the tax payer, wouldn’t support

- lumping these things into a single sentence or part of a single paragraph in a 300 or 400 page set of guidelines and laws being passed in one fell swoop.

- and so much more.
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24645852


That is not true.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


No, it is not true. A young man in my family went to college on the GI bill, took organic chemistry, and now has a Phd. in organic chemistry. He is now working for the government making big bucks with job security.

So for some college has been a dream, and some have made that dream come true with flying colors!
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We all know there are so many of those jobs to go around. Did you have some kind of point by posting that?
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Ihad a point dear. College can be a dream for some. Maybe there are a lot more of these jobs that come around than u know. By the way this kid had work like mad to get through school as he had a learning disability, but he made it....then I posted the rest.

You are too negative. If all of u are so negative, how do u expect our kids to be.
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We should open a school for small business owners11111!!! THAT way we can all be rich and make money, stop all the liburuls and make america great again!!!1111
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We should open a school for small business owners11111!!! THAT way we can all be rich and make money, stop all the liburuls and make america great again!!!1111
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Big business doesn't want small businesses to thrive and have made it nearly impossible. Small business was the backbone of our economy.
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
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That is not true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


Agreed, my immense education and exuberant debt far beyond the average of students has made me your family doctor. So enjoy the care on your insurance or government welfare medicare/medicaid which refuses to pay me at my expense. I am denied for the majority of services I render to patients on a daily basis and those they do cover are monthly being slashed. It has put not just my family collateral (to secure loans for a practice and equipment), but my employees lively hoods at risk. (TRUE STORY)

However when the tap does dry up, I will be able to be a service for trade and barter, which is more than most students can say with their degrees.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


Although I'm someone who uses natural cures to take care of my health, and take no drugs including OTC, even though I'm disabled from an injury, let me just say, that your profession has probably been hosed more than any other by the government.

You busted your butt for 16 years starting in high school and was deprived of adequate sleep for at least part of it only to have the government make your life far more difficult than it needs to be.

The ObamaCareTax will make it even worse.

You're invited to look into natural medicine if it comes to that. It really does work. I even cured my cancer without drugs. It was Stage 4, btw.
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You'd be up shit creek if they closed a school like Stanford. You know, the place that gave you most of the technology you're sitting there using.

Closing down the research centers that most of the top universities host, would really give China and India a massive edge of the USA.

Lots of problems with 2nd and 3rd tier schools, but most of the top schools still churn out some extraordinary and productive citizens.
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120 Billion? Dude thats pocket change for President Zero. Probably offer to "forgive" all student debt to gain more votes...just like he's handing out cells.

odance
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We should open a school for small business owners11111!!! THAT way we can all be rich and make money, stop all the liburuls and make america great again!!!1111
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Big business doesn't want small businesses to thrive and have made it nearly impossible. Small business was the backbone of our economy.
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It is amusing that everyone wants to blame big business. Do you realize that big business could do nothing without government collusion?

The only reason they are where they are is they can buy congress critters.

They make the laws because they can buy the "lawmakers".
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You people have hardened hearts. No one can please you.

You don't respect them if they work at MacDonalds, and, by the way, that is not that bad of a job.

You don't respect them if they go to college.

You don't respect them if they go on welfare.

There is no pleasing you people...very very sad.

I say more power to all the young people in our society. God bless them!
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I love you. My family hated me all my life whenever I tried to do something by myself they yelled at me and told me I was wrong now I'm fucked because I get nervous to do anything. Now people call me lazy I'm just afraid. I hope I can find a loving wife with that type of ideology.
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Colleges will not close. They function too well as indoctrination centers.
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They could close most of them, they are not educating students anymore anyway. Just indoctrination centers.
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You people have hardened hearts. No one can please you.

You don't respect them if they work at MacDonalds, and, by the way, that is not that bad of a job.

You don't respect them if they go to college.

You don't respect them if they go on welfare.

There is no pleasing you people...very very sad.

I say more power to all the young people in our society. God bless them!
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I love you. My family hated me all my life whenever I tried to do something by myself they yelled at me and told me I was wrong now I'm fucked because I get nervous to do anything. Now people call me lazy I'm just afraid. I hope I can find a loving wife with that type of ideology.
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I love you, too. Hang in there. Stand up for yourself,and do not become depressed. This world is in sad shape, and it is not your fault.
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We should open a school for small business owners11111!!! THAT way we can all be rich and make money, stop all the liburuls and make america great again!!!1111
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16803809


Big business doesn't want small businesses to thrive and have made it nearly impossible. Small business was the backbone of our economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21211135


It is amusing that everyone wants to blame big business. Do you realize that big business could do nothing without government collusion?

The only reason they are where they are is they can buy congress critters.

They make the laws because they can buy the "lawmakers".
 Quoting: s. d. butler


I know that. I'm just stating a simple truth. And don't get me started on why so many convenience stores, gas stations, and motels are run by south Asians.
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We should open a school for small business owners11111!!! THAT way we can all be rich and make money, stop all the liburuls and make america great again!!!1111
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16803809


Big business doesn't want small businesses to thrive and have made it nearly impossible. Small business was the backbone of our economy.
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I appreciate more than you can imagine the recognition of the patients out there for the heavy burden. I am no MD, I practice Chiro. We used to be persecuted so hard that in the early days the jailed us for adjusting patients. Then we suffered the most heavy campaign by the AMA to slander out art. Now we are the bottom of the bottom with a slow strangulation by decreasing acceptance for reimbursement. We dont have big pharma backing and money, so we are the enemy of established medicine at the top orders of control. People still pay cash for my care plenty of them, but that will change as they become more strapped. I am one year in to my first practice and it is hell, so many many many fingers in the pie, it is disgusting. I am always told ohhh wait give it five years you will make it. I dont have that kind of time.
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24645852


That is not true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


Agreed, my immense education and exuberant debt far beyond the average of students has made me your family doctor. So enjoy the care on your insurance or government welfare medicare/medicaid which refuses to pay me at my expense. I am denied for the majority of services I render to patients on a daily basis and those they do cover are monthly being slashed. It has put not just my family collateral (to secure loans for a practice and equipment), but my employees lively hoods at risk. (TRUE STORY)

However when the tap does dry up, I will be able to be a service for trade and barter, which is more than most students can say with their degrees.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


Although I'm someone who uses natural cures to take care of my health, and take no drugs including OTC, even though I'm disabled from an injury, let me just say, that your profession has probably been hosed more than any other by the government.

You busted your butt for 16 years starting in high school and was deprived of adequate sleep for at least part of it only to have the government make your life far more difficult than it needs to be.

The ObamaCareTax will make it even worse.




You're invited to look into natural medicine if it comes to that. It really does work. I even cured my cancer without drugs. It was Stage 4, btw.
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I ment to quote your posts, my response is above. I do appreciate the recognition, I am a chiro. Most persecuted profession in the Dr. level. We used to be jailed for it. AMA's worst target.
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
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That is not true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


Agreed, my immense education and exuberant debt far beyond the average of students has made me your family doctor. So enjoy the care on your insurance or government welfare medicare/medicaid which refuses to pay me at my expense. I am denied for the majority of services I render to patients on a daily basis and those they do cover are monthly being slashed. It has put not just my family collateral (to secure loans for a practice and equipment), but my employees lively hoods at risk. (TRUE STORY)

However when the tap does dry up, I will be able to be a service for trade and barter, which is more than most students can say with their degrees.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


Although I'm someone who uses natural cures to take care of my health, and take no drugs including OTC, even though I'm disabled from an injury, let me just say, that your profession has probably been hosed more than any other by the government.

You busted your butt for 16 years starting in high school and was deprived of adequate sleep for at least part of it only to have the government make your life far more difficult than it needs to be.

The ObamaCareTax will make it even worse.

You're invited to look into natural medicine if it comes to that. It really does work. I even cured my cancer without drugs. It was Stage 4, btw.
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I would love to know your cancer tx method. I have been researching alot since I am sure I will get it as it seems we are all almost destined to have at this late stage of the game.

B17, selenium, raw food/fruit, superfood supplementation, detox, heavy metal detox, combo of all? Baking soda method?
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
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That is not true.
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It is true. I once had the task of sorting resumes for a small accounting firm. You would not believe the numbers of pubic accountants who had worked as mangers. What a pubic accountant does as a manger is something I did not need to know. Invariably they listed attention to detail as one of their greatest strengths. These were degreed accountants who had passed the CPA exam but they could not proof read their own resume.

A reporter asked Harvard's graduating electrical engineers to assemble a battery from its basic components. None could do so.

Present an American trained physician with the symptoms of dehydration and he won't ask if you drink water--just write a prescription or order lab tests.

I soke to a teaching paralegal who thought the ACLU was "for the poor and downtrodden". Another spoke of a client currently conducting business in Rhodesia.

My brother in law had a degree in architecture. He did not know basic structural engineering.he claimed architects do not need to know how to bulid a house that stands.

My high school English teacher did not know the difference between socialism and communism. We were reading Russian writers. It was somewhat relevant.

My sister went through her freshman philosophy course convinced Pre-Socrates was a man.

I was on the campus of a renowned private Jesuit college as Yugoslavia broke apart. Students had no idea what that was. I was on the campus of a decent state uni (good medical and engineering colleges) when all the Chinese students were using internet to communicate with their families. Undergraduates had no idea what that was.

A high school drop out who reads a daily paper and a couple of good news magazines is better educated than the typical college graduate. And a great deal less arrogant.

Fifteen years or so ago delivery drivers went on strike. Packages weren't delivered. The world ground to a halt. People howled. How dare they strike! Drivers made 25 dollars an hour. One young man called into a radio program to complain--he was an engineer and he couldn't find a job that paid $25/hour! I laughed and laughed and asked my 10 year old to figure out why. It took some time--I explained supply and demand--and he figured it out. That engineer could be earning $25/hour if he were willing to handle packages. But there he was, ignorant of the first principles of economics, but howling that his four year degree somehow made him more valuable and worth a higher wage than a guy whose job was so important if he didn't do it for 36 hours life as we knew it had ended.

I've seen teachers, in graduate school, rebel against having to study outside the classroom. They demanded to be spoonfed--to have the textbook read to them in class. They had an instructor fresh out of MIT and they wanted her to read a book to them. It was too hard to read the text after work and understand the lectures. They complained and complained. Educational opportunity is wasted on such people. And these were teachers!

What we need is to keep the best colleges and universities we have, for the brightest and most motivated students, and open cousewhere and extension programs for working people who want to study for career advancement or pleasure.

Unless a kid gets a full ride scholarship, or gets into the program of his choice at a really good school, he's better off in the military or going to work in a field where he can train on the job, and pick up certifications as he goes.

I think everyone should have a liberal arts education, but four year residential college isn't the best way to deliver it to most kids.
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I remember how I had an biology professor eating out of my hand and giving me A+++ grades for my essays on evolutionary biology in invertebrates...I was writing like I was possessed and she ate it up. I might have even believed it at that point in time. At any rate, I gots me an A+ in that elective.
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Even back then, looking at evolutionary biology....it didn't look good for 80% of the idiots partying their retarded asses off in college.
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I'm still currently deferred from my biological science degree. Once you realise God created everything it's hard to listen to these teachers ignoring the intricacies of bilateral symmetry and cell reproduction. That and the fact when you graduate you'll be working for corporations trying to to fuck over biology in all it's forms.
also every douche thinking they're gonna swim with whales not rinsing out beakers and sniffing ether lol
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Most college grads can't even say "Do you want fries with that" without fucking it up.....Dumbasses
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That is not true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


Agreed, my immense education and exuberant debt far beyond the average of students has made me your family doctor. So enjoy the care on your insurance or government welfare medicare/medicaid which refuses to pay me at my expense. I am denied for the majority of services I render to patients on a daily basis and those they do cover are monthly being slashed. It has put not just my family collateral (to secure loans for a practice and equipment), but my employees lively hoods at risk. (TRUE STORY)

However when the tap does dry up, I will be able to be a service for trade and barter, which is more than most students can say with their degrees.
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people like you are true doctors. but put your family first champ....help yourself before others. even if it breaks your heart...you can't fix the whole world! god bless
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You people have hardened hearts. No one can please you.

You don't respect them if they work at MacDonalds, and, by the way, that is not that bad of a job.

You don't respect them if they go to college.

You don't respect them if they go on welfare.

There is no pleasing you people...very very sad.

I say more power to all the young people in our society. God bless them!
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I love you. My family hated me all my life whenever I tried to do something by myself they yelled at me and told me I was wrong now I'm fucked because I get nervous to do anything. Now people call me lazy I'm just afraid. I hope I can find a loving wife with that type of ideology.
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two words my friend...wayne dyer
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Trade schools and medical schools, close the rest.
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kitty Makes sense to me.
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The gov. seized control of all student loans from banks a while back. They saw this coming, so the banks and gov. pulled this trick.

Now if you default--- you end up with irs agents kicking in your door and jail time.

This default number will just get thrown into the current debt of 16 trillion for the taxpayers.


That is it.

No universities will close because they are still getting their money from the gov. for the loans. They are still raising tuition and making money hand over fist.
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I work for a small university and our enrollment was down this fall by 35%. That's a $7 million shortfall in revenues. All the while we've doubled construction and respective new construction financing while the president and top 10 execs got 30% pay raises.

Both parents and students could not make up the financial aid shortfall against billing amounts due. Most didn't even realize until the last day to register. They were standing there with their mouths gaping - they didn't have the money to pay - many juniors and seniors left crying and have no idea how they're going to pay for the remainder of their degrees. Staff is powerless to help them.
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No, they are not.
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The gov. seized control of all student loans from banks a while back. They saw this coming, so the banks and gov. pulled this trick.

Now if you default--- you end up with irs agents kicking in your door and jail time.

This default number will just get thrown into the current debt of 16 trillion for the taxpayers.


That is it.

No universities will close because they are still getting their money from the gov. for the loans. They are still raising tuition and making money hand over fist.
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Increase number of poor students getting full aid from govt, who cares if they graduate, let tax payers cover it. Colleges get paid and go after middle class students to pay their loans. Either way through taxes or college loans middle class is screwed, then they cannot even get a job with the degree.

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