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Lion's Paw (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 09/29/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you consider the fact that NONE of the impacts have had the proper signature for impacts, this makes it even more suspicious. In every case, the Wesley mark, and the 3 subsequent flashes, their are problems with the impact theory: Wesley mark did not leave a halo, no incoming was spotted, the spectral analysis said "abundant silica" and the impact site did NOT break up like an impact should..carbon soot kept pouring out from the same core spot. This all points to INTERNALLY GENERATED. With the flashes, no incoming spotted, appears to be lightning on the videos, and NO HINT OF DEBRIS despite MASSIVE FLASHES. Add to this, the first two flashes were ANTIPODAL! This points to internally generated electrical event. Finally, add in the horrible odds of "impacts" in this number and you need to reconsider the "impact" theory! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 09/29/2012 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The odds favor that. That means astronomers must explain away MORE than three flashes, as many as 4-7 total possibly! The likelihood that we luckily saw all three Earth-facing is only 12.5%. So there is an 87.5% chance of at least one other unseen. And there is a 75% chance of two others unseen, roughly. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 09/29/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Odds of flash combos: a) seen 6-3-09 seen 8-20-09 seen 9-10-12 unseen future 1 of 16 b) seen 6-3-09 seen 8-20-09 seen 9-10-12 seen future 1 of 16 c) seen 6-3-09 seen 8-20-09 unseen past seen 9-10-12 1 of 16 d) seen 6-3-09 seen 8-20-09 unseen past unseen past seen 9-10-12 1 of 32 e) seen 6-3-09 seen 8-20-09 unseen past seen 9-10-12 unseen future 1 of 32 f) seen 6-3-09 seen 8-20-09 unseen past seen 9-10-12 seen future 1 of 32 |
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Funney User ID: 11648979 Czechia 10/03/2012 03:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 11 year SUNs cycle is influenced by the 11 year orbit of planet Jupiter and when it comes to influence we can assume it is done by mass or charge Jupiter has more charge than mass so my guess would go to the electric influence theory.. its charge flips Suns poles once in every 11 years, like a clockwork! moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds we make errors in between perception->relation->behaviour |
Funney User ID: 11648979 Czechia 10/03/2012 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but i do not disagree with the presented theory, that those flashes can be triggered inside we must look at the position of Jupiter at these times, relative to that of our SUN moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds we make errors in between perception->relation->behaviour |
BillTheKat User ID: 997239 United States 10/03/2012 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Reminds me a little of Arthur C. Clarke's 2010 book and subsequent movie. ''Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country.'' —President George W. Bush, Sept. 6, 2004 |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 10/03/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | July 19, 2009 approx one month off closest Jupiter approach to Earth June 3, 2010 approx 3.5 months off closest Jupiter approach to Earth Aug 20, 2010 approx one month off closest Jupiter approach to Earth Sep 10, 2012 approx 2.5 months off closest Jupiter approach to Earth Earth is the largest magnetosphere near to Jupiter right now as Saturn is on the other side and the other inner planets have no magnetosphere to speak of. One possibility is looking at Jupiter-Earth synodics of 399 days: Jupiter fusion initiation July 17, 2009 (2 day journey upward for Wesley thermal vent) Aug 20, 2010 flash = 1st synod. Sept. 23, 2011 (unseen flash?) = 2nd synod Oct. 26, 2012 (future antipode pair flash to recent 9-10-12 flash) = 3rd synod ??? weak, unless the Oct. 26th one is visible. As far as Jup close approach to Sun..have not done that yet. |
Funney User ID: 11648979 Czechia 10/04/2012 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | July 19, 2009 approx one month off closest Jupiter approach to Earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 June 3, 2010 approx 3.5 months off closest Jupiter approach to Earth Aug 20, 2010 approx one month off closest Jupiter approach to Earth Sep 10, 2012 approx 2.5 months off closest Jupiter approach to Earth Earth is the largest magnetosphere near to Jupiter right now as Saturn is on the other side and the other inner planets have no magnetosphere to speak of. One possibility is looking at Jupiter-Earth synodics of 399 days: Jupiter fusion initiation July 17, 2009 (2 day journey upward for Wesley thermal vent) Aug 20, 2010 flash = 1st synod. Sept. 23, 2011 (unseen flash?) = 2nd synod Oct. 26, 2012 (future antipode pair flash to recent 9-10-12 flash) = 3rd synod ??? weak, unless the Oct. 26th one is visible. As far as Jup close approach to Sun..have not done that yet. ahh we can see now :D (PICs) [link to i290.photobucket.com] thanks a lot buddy for the dates the influence is clearly visible on FLASH dates/PICs moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds we make errors in between perception->relation->behaviour |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 300884 Sweden 10/04/2012 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a completely different theory, and we have evidence for some of that, but also evidence for the conventional theory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 Yup. The fusion theory says there should be neutrinos coming from the sun, and we do find them, but only about a third as many as expected. So, it's 33 % fusion, 67 % something else. |
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Whiskey Brother User ID: 11702187 United States 10/04/2012 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one thing is for sure here Quoting: Funney 11 year SUNs cycle is influenced by the 11 year orbit of planet Jupiter and when it comes to influence we can assume it is done by mass or charge Jupiter has more charge than mass so my guess would go to the electric influence theory.. its charge flips Suns poles once in every 11 years, like a clockwork! Except the suns cycle can be as short as 8 years, and up to 14 years in some recorded instances. Jupiters year is actually pretty close to 12 Earth years, not 11. Jupiter lacks the necessary mass, and thus also lacks the necessary gravity, to cause critical mass in ANY plutonium, and thus no Jupiter "ignition". But "like clockwork", the whole "lucifer conspiracy" gets a new junk science spin every year that it fails to ignite, as to why it hasn't ignited yet. I can't wait to hear next years bullshit theory.... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 10/04/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one thing is for sure here Quoting: Funney 11 year SUNs cycle is influenced by the 11 year orbit of planet Jupiter and when it comes to influence we can assume it is done by mass or charge Jupiter has more charge than mass so my guess would go to the electric influence theory.. its charge flips Suns poles once in every 11 years, like a clockwork! Except the suns cycle can be as short as 8 years, and up to 14 years in some recorded instances. Jupiters year is actually pretty close to 12 Earth years, not 11. Jupiter lacks the necessary mass, and thus also lacks the necessary gravity, to cause critical mass in ANY plutonium, and thus no Jupiter "ignition". But "like clockwork", the whole "lucifer conspiracy" gets a new junk science spin every year that it fails to ignite, as to why it hasn't ignited yet. I can't wait to hear next years bullshit theory.... You obviously haven't read the book and your facts are wrong. The reason Jupiter has been said to be a failed star is because it does not have the MASS TO START FUSION. In other words, IT CAN'T CREATE FUSION TEMPS AT ITS CORE ON ITS OWN. This is where the NASA experiment stepped in. The Pu-238 was inserted behind a heat shield in 1995. At that point it drifted towards the center of Jupiter for nearly 15 years. It survived this long intact because the EQUATION OF STATE of pylrolitic graphite carbon (which the casings were made of) allows Jupiter pressure to keep raising the casings melting point above that of the internal temps of Jupiter. In 2009, with the Wesley mark we have clear evidence, NOT OF AN IMPACT, but that an internal event caused a thermal convection shaft to violently burst upward from the center of Jupiter. This is evidenced by the "abundant silica" seen in the spectral analysis as well as the way the mark sprewed material from one spot and did not spread out as an impact should. (see astronomer, Theo Ramakers, comments on this) What this all means is that Jupiter has already gone stellar at the core in 2009, and now we are seeing signs of the heat conducting and convecting outward to CHANGE Jupiter over several years. The MASSIVE electrical discharges are evidence that Jupiter is undergoing more changes deep inside. The first two we saw were ANTIPODAL and that indicates an electrical disturbance that has gone through the center of Jupiter to discharge on opposite sides. Some argued that "Jupiter would have exploded" if a fusion reaction had been started. This was not true, instead (just like Earth's magma), the HEAT AND ENERGY found a WEAK POINT to vent out the excess without exploding the center out. This is exactly what happens when a tightly pressurized ball is trying to vent, it finds a weak point to spurt out the extra energy. The flashes will increase in number and intensity. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 10/04/2012 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Pu-238 was inserted behind a heat shield in 1995. At that point it drifted towards the center of Jupiter for nearly 15 years. It survived this long intact because the EQUATION OF STATE of pylrolitic graphite carbon (which the casings were made of) allows Jupiter pressure to keep raising the casings melting point above that of the internal temps of Jupiter." Under 30 million bars of pressure, the Pu went through fissile fission when it hit its Alpha-7 state at which point the area spiked to OVER 1 TRILLION KELVIN and initiated a fusion reaction. This is what Jupiter could not do on its own. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 10/04/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What we likely have ongoing now it A VERY MODEST FUSION REACTION when compared to the Sun's. This is what Jupiter SELF-REGULATED after the 2009 event. By lowering the "fusion ball radius" (inner 5-10%) and the "fusion density" of that radius, Jupiter can regulate a fusion reaction to one it can handle. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19514200 United States 10/04/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What we likely have ongoing now it A VERY MODEST FUSION REACTION when compared to the Sun's. This is what Jupiter SELF-REGULATED after the 2009 event. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 By lowering the "fusion ball radius" (inner 5-10%) and the "fusion density" of that radius, Jupiter can regulate a fusion reaction to one it can handle. The Sun's fusion ball is only 30% of its inner radius and the outer half of that is VERY WEAK in fusion. Jupiter's 10% radius fusion ball would also have its outer half VERY WEAK in fusion (that's the "fusion density"). To help with a Sun comparison, also Jupiter's outside to inside non-fusion to fusion mass ratio is much more favorable having only 5 to 10% of its center in any kind of fusion compared to the Sun. This is the proposal. |
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