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On the John Moore show of 9/28/2012 it was discussed that there would be civil unrest in October around the second to third week, and that troops were getting geared up for this.

Also: There was a guest (Ann Morrison who discussed at length) how GE has now admitted that over a dozen of our nuclear reactors have a major design flaw (similar to those flaws of FUKUshima) The reactors are given in a list and the areas are too. Here is the Youtube link: [link to www.youtube.com] I do not know how to embed, so if someone could embed this I would appreciate it. Listen to the show. Monticello Nuclear facility almost had a Fukushima type meltdown because of these flaws!!
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You people DO know that GE designed the totally screwed up reactors in FUKUshima?? Don't you??
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Really???? 1 star and no reply? You didn't even listen to the show...
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John Moore bsflag
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In spite of what you think of John Moore the info on GE is REAL there is proof and many of the reactors are in Louisiana...Just thought I would share....
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Re: Civil Unrest in October?? Also: GE ADMITS Over a Dozen US Nuclear Reactors Flawed!!
Moore.. IDK...??

The issue of the nuke plants is important.
There are 22 of 23 GE Mark I reactors still operating in the US.
These are the flawed reactors that were put into use.. even after GE's own scientists resigned in protest over their use.
Design-flawed from the outset...

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Moore.. IDK...??

The issue of the nuke plants is important.
There are 22 of 23 GE Mark I reactors still operating in the US.
These are the flawed reactors that were put into use.. even after GE's own scientists resigned in protest over their use.
Design-flawed from the outset...

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Yes, the one in Monticello went into shutdown (HOT) and didn't even go into it's proper cooldown mode.... These reactors are located from coast to coast. The problem is with the water system...(cooler) That is a major flaw. I just thought people would want to know..
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GE Mark I reactor sites..Many have reached or exceeded their 40 year design lifespan.
Except for a couple, they have all been granted 20 year license extensions by the NRC.



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Browns Ferry 1, Athens, Ala., operating license since 1973, reactor type GE 4
Browns Ferry 2, Athens, Ala., 1974, GE 4
Browns Ferry 3, Athens, Ala., 1976, GE 4
Brunswick 1, Southport, N.C, 1976, GE 4.
Brunswick 2, Southport, N.C., 1974, GE 4.
Cooper, Brownville, Neb., 1974, GE 4.
Dresden 2, Morris, Ill., 1970, GE 3.
Dresden 3, Morris, Ill., 1971, GE 3.
Duane Arnold, Palo, Iowa, 1974, GE 4.
Fermi 2, Monroe, Mich., 1985, GE 4.
FitzPatrick, Scriba, N.Y., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 1, Baxley, Ga., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 2, Baxley, Ga., 1978, GE 4.
Hope Creek, Hancock's Bridge, N.J. 1986, GE 4.
Monticello, Monticello, Minn., 1970, GE 3.
Nine Mile Point 1, Scriba, N.Y., 1969, GE 2.
Oyster Creek, Forked River, N.J., 1969, GE 2.
Peach Bottom 2, Delta, Pa., 1973, GE 4.
Peach Bottom 3, Delta, Pa., 1974, GE 4.
Pilgrim, Plymouth, Mass., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 1, Cordova, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 2, Moline, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Vermont Yankee, Vernon, Vt., 1972, GE 4.
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GE Mark I reactor sites..Many have reached or exceeded their 40 year design lifespan.
Except for a couple, they have all been granted 20 year license extensions by the NRC.



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Browns Ferry 1, Athens, Ala., operating license since 1973, reactor type GE 4
Browns Ferry 2, Athens, Ala., 1974, GE 4
Browns Ferry 3, Athens, Ala., 1976, GE 4
Brunswick 1, Southport, N.C, 1976, GE 4.
Brunswick 2, Southport, N.C., 1974, GE 4.
Cooper, Brownville, Neb., 1974, GE 4.
Dresden 2, Morris, Ill., 1970, GE 3.
Dresden 3, Morris, Ill., 1971, GE 3.
Duane Arnold, Palo, Iowa, 1974, GE 4.
Fermi 2, Monroe, Mich., 1985, GE 4.
FitzPatrick, Scriba, N.Y., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 1, Baxley, Ga., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 2, Baxley, Ga., 1978, GE 4.
Hope Creek, Hancock's Bridge, N.J. 1986, GE 4.
Monticello, Monticello, Minn., 1970, GE 3.
Nine Mile Point 1, Scriba, N.Y., 1969, GE 2.
Oyster Creek, Forked River, N.J., 1969, GE 2.
Peach Bottom 2, Delta, Pa., 1973, GE 4.
Peach Bottom 3, Delta, Pa., 1974, GE 4.
Pilgrim, Plymouth, Mass., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 1, Cordova, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 2, Moline, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Vermont Yankee, Vernon, Vt., 1972, GE 4.
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It is said that they have to repair all of these..
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Re: Civil Unrest in October?? Also: GE ADMITS Over a Dozen US Nuclear Reactors Flawed!!
GE Mark I reactor sites..Many have reached or exceeded their 40 year design lifespan.
Except for a couple, they have all been granted 20 year license extensions by the NRC.



[link to www.newsmax.com]

[snip]

Browns Ferry 1, Athens, Ala., operating license since 1973, reactor type GE 4
Browns Ferry 2, Athens, Ala., 1974, GE 4
Browns Ferry 3, Athens, Ala., 1976, GE 4
Brunswick 1, Southport, N.C, 1976, GE 4.
Brunswick 2, Southport, N.C., 1974, GE 4.
Cooper, Brownville, Neb., 1974, GE 4.
Dresden 2, Morris, Ill., 1970, GE 3.
Dresden 3, Morris, Ill., 1971, GE 3.
Duane Arnold, Palo, Iowa, 1974, GE 4.
Fermi 2, Monroe, Mich., 1985, GE 4.
FitzPatrick, Scriba, N.Y., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 1, Baxley, Ga., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 2, Baxley, Ga., 1978, GE 4.
Hope Creek, Hancock's Bridge, N.J. 1986, GE 4.
Monticello, Monticello, Minn., 1970, GE 3.
Nine Mile Point 1, Scriba, N.Y., 1969, GE 2.
Oyster Creek, Forked River, N.J., 1969, GE 2.
Peach Bottom 2, Delta, Pa., 1973, GE 4.
Peach Bottom 3, Delta, Pa., 1974, GE 4.
Pilgrim, Plymouth, Mass., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 1, Cordova, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 2, Moline, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Vermont Yankee, Vernon, Vt., 1972, GE 4.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Thank you very much for the list, that was very generous of you!!! It was given also on the radio show. I was hoping to ease into it in discussion, but people seem to be a little cranky today. Again thanks!!
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GE Mark I reactor sites..Many have reached or exceeded their 40 year design lifespan.

[link to www.newsmax.com]


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It is said that they have to repair all of these..
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They have instituted workarounds and reinforcing strategies to ameliorate the effects of an LOC..
Didn't work at Fuku.. even 'tho it was overbuilt [above spec] by the Japanese engineers.
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GE Mark I reactor sites..Many have reached or exceeded their 40 year design lifespan.

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It is said that they have to repair all of these..
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They have instituted workarounds and reinforcing strategies to ameliorate the effects of an LOC..
Didn't work at Fuku.. even 'tho it was overbuilt [above spec] by the Japanese engineers.
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Yes, apparently the plant in Monticello boiled over and the fuel rods were exposed. Management is saying no radiation was leaked and everything is "fine" I'm not buying though.
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Thank you very much for the list, that was very generous of you!!! It was given also on the radio show. I was hoping to ease into it in discussion, but people seem to be a little cranky today. Again thanks!!
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Didn't mean to mess up the plan.. hf
Probably cranky from Friday night frivolities.. chuckle

I just think it is important to get this information out to as many as possible.
Most don't have a clue what is being done in the nuke power industry.. in the name of profit... and at the risk of citizen safety.

It is one thing to work in the industry.. implied risk.
Quite another to be at risk.. and in the dark.
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THANKS FOR THE PIN!!!!!!!! 5a
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Thank you very much for the list, that was very generous of you!!! It was given also on the radio show. I was hoping to ease into it in discussion, but people seem to be a little cranky today. Again thanks!!
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Didn't mean to mess up the plan.. hf
Probably cranky from Friday night frivolities.. chuckle

I just think it is important to get this information out to as many as possible.
Most don't have a clue what is being done in the nuke power industry.. in the name of profit... and at the risk of citizen safety.

It is one thing to work in the industry.. implied risk.
Quite another to be at risk.. and in the dark.
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Oh, that is no problem, LOOK we got a PIN!!! YAY!!! Thanks for your help WATERBUG!!!
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Good stuff, OP......

looks like Ohio's reactors aren't on the list....
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Good work WB.
edit-(ah, scuze me. Thank you TotallyFreaked)

The situation with nuclear reactors gives me the chills.

The world is hanging by its fingertips over the edge of a cliff.

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John Moore bsflag
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ohyeah
What you perceive to be is your reality.

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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I'm glad to see that Ann was mistaken too there don't appear to be any in Louisiana either, they are in Alabama. (Close enough though) She was just trying to remember off the top of her head though.
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Good work WB.
edit-(ah, scuze me. Thank you TotallyFreaked)

The situation with nuclear reactors gives me the chills.

The world is hanging by its fingertips over the edge of a cliff.
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I will share the mutual credit on this....I really just wanted people to listen and then discuss the show but people wouldn't. This works just as well.

I am glad people are paying attention any way!!! There was so much interesting info about the sites discussed (actually John didn't talk at all hardly it was mostly Ann M.) Good show though, I have only listened a couple of times but I am glad I did this time. Very dangerous and we never hear anything about these things. It could have totally melted down and we would never know....
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Thank you very much for the list, that was very generous of you!!! It was given also on the radio show. I was hoping to ease into it in discussion, but people seem to be a little cranky today. Again thanks!!
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Didn't mean to mess up the plan.. hf
Probably cranky from Friday night frivolities.. chuckle

I just think it is important to get this information out to as many as possible.
Most don't have a clue what is being done in the nuke power industry.. in the name of profit... and at the risk of citizen safety.

It is one thing to work in the industry.. implied risk.
Quite another to be at risk.. and in the dark.
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Oh, that is no problem, LOOK we got a PIN!!! YAY!!! Thanks for your help WATERBUG!!!
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hello
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On the John Moore show of 9/28/2012 it was discussed that there would be civil unrest in October around the second to third week, and that troops were getting geared up for this.

Also: There was a guest (Ann Morrison who discussed at length) how GE has now admitted that over a dozen of our nuclear reactors have a major design flaw (similar to those flaws of FUKUshima) The reactors are given in a list and the areas are too. Here is the Youtube link: [link to www.youtube.com] I do not know how to embed, so if someone could embed this I would appreciate it. Listen to the show. Monticello Nuclear facility almost had a Fukushima type meltdown because of these flaws!!
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This has me wondering, since NASA has admitted that we are entering an "Interstellar Energy Cloud" <- is that right?? Supposedly power will be out for many months to a year or more. What will happen to the Nuclear facilities? Just a thought...
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On the John Moore show of 9/28/2012 it was discussed that there would be civil unrest in October around the second to third week, and that troops were getting geared up for this.

Also: There was a guest (Ann Morrison who discussed at length) how GE has now admitted that over a dozen of our nuclear reactors have a major design flaw (similar to those flaws of FUKUshima) The reactors are given in a list and the areas are too. Here is the Youtube link: [link to www.youtube.com] I do not know how to embed, so if someone could embed this I would appreciate it. Listen to the show. Monticello Nuclear facility almost had a Fukushima type meltdown because of these flaws!!
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Thank you so much for embedding this!!! Very nice of you!! hf
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The nuke industry and the .govs of countries who are suppliers and users have painted themselves into a small corner.
The spent fuel is simmering all over the planet waiting for permanent [nothing is forever] storage.
It costs a cool billion today to decommission a reactor..

They have so much invested in this tech... that nothing and no-one is going to be able to
convince them otherwise and nuke power will be employed and advanced.
They will gleefully continue down this path to oblivion..

The rest of us.. collateral damage.

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After or before the Nibiru arrival?




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The nuke industry and the .govs of countries who are suppliers and users have painted themselves into a small corner.
The spent fuel is simmering all over the planet waiting for permanent [nothing is forever] storage.
It costs a cool billion today to decommission a reactor..

They have so much invested in this tech... that nothing and no-one is going to be able to
convince them otherwise and nuke power will be employed and advanced.
They will gleefully continue down this path to oblivion..

The rest of us.. collateral damage.

dead
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If a fuel rod can "melt" through several inches of concrete, couldn't it also move through rock and other debris in the Earth???? Possibly contaminating water, etc...
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On the John Moore show of 9/28/2012 it was discussed....
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The nuke industry and the .govs of countries who are suppliers and users have painted themselves into a small corner.
The spent fuel is simmering all over the planet waiting for permanent [nothing is forever] storage.
It costs a cool billion today to decommission a reactor..

They have so much invested in this tech... that nothing and no-one is going to be able to
convince them otherwise and nuke power will be employed and advanced.
They will gleefully continue down this path to oblivion..

The rest of us.. collateral damage.

dead
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If a fuel rod can "melt" through several inches of concrete, couldn't it also move through rock and other debris in the Earth???? Possibly contaminating water, etc...
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The melted fuel becomes 'corium'. This is an amalgamation of any material the super-heated melted-core material comes in contact with. Corium temps. can be 5000F. Theoretically, and with some basis in scientific experimentation, the corium will have a shell or crust which alternately scabs over and then cracks open. This crust defeats any internal cooling of the corium with boron and is too hot to cool with water. It vaporizes before contact. When it reaches the point where the temperature lowers and impurities increase enough to slow the process, at that point it will remain in stasis in the ground. How deep it gets is anybody's guess...
No one can approach it and live.

Average core has around 800 assemblies and weighs 150 tons.
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You people DO know that GE designed the totally screwed up reactors in FUKUshima?? Don't you??
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They are an old design. None of the Fuke-style reactors are functional in the US.
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