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WTF !! JPMorgan Loss Could Be Next 'Shock' Event !! 100 BILLION LOSS ON DERIVATIVES BETS !!

 
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The JP Morgan (JPM) trading blunder could result in a $100 billion loss, a contagion of its massive portfolio, and even the wipeout of its entire asset base. Even worse, these extremely risky and potentially-illegal actions on behalf of the CIO office and the "London Whale" could be the unexpected "shock" that breaks the market, derails the Fed's huge monetary stimulus, and sends us back into a global recession.

The JP Morgan Shock

The entire world has forgotten about or ignored what could be the upcoming "shock" that puts the global financial system in severe jeopardy. To make matters much, much worse - I don't think anyone even has a clue as to what is really happening. Investors, economists, financial powerhouses, top business executives, politicians, lawmakers, consumers, students, governments, and even central banks are completely confused. None of them are expecting what I will describe below.
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This was circulating about a month ago don't panic Bernanke has probably handed them a couple of hundred billion through the discount window to cover it,put on the taxpayers tab of course.
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it will be ok,, my uncle told me the federal reserve is printing up the differance right now.
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Not J P More gain then.
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will this bring down the B liar?
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it will be ok,, my uncle told me the federal reserve is printing up the differance right now.
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Think about how many uncles actually work for the federal reserve!
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I POSTED THIS 2 DAYS AGO, HOW DID THIS GET PINNED????
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Buy USD, all im sayn
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Long life to the corporatism...
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I POSTED THIS 2 DAYS AGO, HOW DID THIS GET PINNED????
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Two words. Obama phone.
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I POSTED THIS 2 DAYS AGO, HOW DID THIS GET PINNED????
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Mods have a thing for illegal alien ACs.
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I have read something about a week agao that once you see losses in derivatives the stock market will crash soon after. I'm still looking for that article..
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did you know ebt cards are through JPMorgan?

[link to www.ebtaccount.jpmorgan.com (secure)]
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Two words. Obama phone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


On the contrary , Obama is challenge JP Morgan in different fronts , there are current investigation on energy , metals , Libor, etc !!
Wait and see !!

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What's another measly $100 billion put squarely on the backs of taxpayers? You know that will happen in one form or another....
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Two words. Obama phone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


On the contrary , Obama is challenge JP Morgan in different fronts , there are current investigation on energy , metals , Libor, etc !!
Wait and see !!

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19315397


you gotta be kidding me. they put up an investigation show because sometimes it's impossible to hide the truth, but you really expect any action would come out of those so-called investigations?

barry never charged ANY banker he's sleeping with them in the same bed since day one. he's just changing the position of his body now for some new excitement

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I have read something about a week agao that once you see losses in derivatives the stock market will crash soon after. I'm still looking for that article..
 Quoting: MississippiBlkMan




Found the video


The banks that the Federal Reserve will buy these securities from will use the money to buy US treasuries and not be used to help the economy. The same is happening in other western countries including Europe. The estimated $600 Trillion to $1.5 Quadrillion derivatives market will be used to bring down every currency in the World simultaneously so that the humanity will be begging the elite to give them a new world electronic currency.
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What's another measly $100 billion put squarely on the backs of taxpayers? You know that will happen in one form or another....
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One theory is, that the FED is taking all of this on its balance sheet, so they can willfully go bankrupt. Meaning the fed willingly shuts itself down, and fire sales' its balance sheet to the people and banks.

It's kinda like having a rich bachelor uncle, when he dies, he does have any kids to give his stuff to, so everybody gets a piece. Lots of it like the CDOs, and MBS is junk, so you just throw that in the dumpster like the old dudes' stamp collection.

It is a legitimate theory out there right now in certain circles.
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There is also a huge wave of mortgage resets due in late 2012/early 2013.

This is perfect storm stuff.

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What's another measly $100 billion put squarely on the backs of taxpayers? You know that will happen in one form or another....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18581486


One theory is, that the FED is taking all of this on its balance sheet, so they can willfully go bankrupt. Meaning the fed willingly shuts itself down, and fire sales' its balance sheet to the people and banks.

It's kinda like having a rich bachelor uncle, when he dies, he does have any kids to give his stuff to, so everybody gets a piece. Lots of it like the CDOs, and MBS is junk, so you just throw that in the dumpster like the old dudes' stamp collection.

It is a legitimate theory out there right now in certain circles.
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Yeah except the only ones buying will be the Rothschilds.

They'll finally own the entire planet "free and clear".
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Yeah except the only ones buying will be the Rothschilds.

They'll finally own the entire planet "free and clear".
 Quoting: The Governor


Yes and no. They and the 13 subservient member banks have been able to skim the system for 100 years now, mostly tax free. Both the FED (monetary) and Treasury (tax) were set up to run war based economies in at the end of colonialism. It is amazing the people have tolerated it, but we need that patriotism and stuff, we just dont know what the true price we pay for it is, and it aint just dead poor people.

They have amassed tangible, portable wealth like gold and industrial rights, arrable lands, security in the judicial branch to enforce it. Those are the cash flows they want. They really, really do not want to be landlords of foreclosed McMansions and local governments.
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What's another measly $100 billion put squarely on the backs of taxpayers? You know that will happen in one form or another....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18581486


One theory is, that the FED is taking all of this on its balance sheet, so they can willfully go bankrupt. Meaning the fed willingly shuts itself down, and fire sales' its balance sheet to the people and banks.

It's kinda like having a rich bachelor uncle, when he dies, he does have any kids to give his stuff to, so everybody gets a piece. Lots of it like the CDOs, and MBS is junk, so you just throw that in the dumpster like the old dudes' stamp collection.

It is a legitimate theory out there right now in certain circles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22214495


The FED does a self sacrifice? Only if its members profit.
Who is John Galt?
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Nothing that a few facecords of wood and a few barrels of ink wont fix. Dont worry about it will be cleaned up in a jiffy ! Afterall printing $100 bills only cost .03 cents each.
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I have read something about a week agao that once you see losses in derivatives the stock market will crash soon after. I'm still looking for that article..
 Quoting: MississippiBlkMan




Found the video


The banks that the Federal Reserve will buy these securities from will use the money to buy US treasuries and not be used to help the economy. The same is happening in other western countries including Europe. The estimated $600 Trillion to $1.5 Quadrillion derivatives market will be used to bring down every currency in the World simultaneously so that the humanity will be begging the elite to give them a new world electronic currency.
 Quoting: MississippiBlkMan


So QE3 marks the beginning of the end of the United States of America....and nothing happened UNBELIEVABLE!
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I have read something about a week agao that once you see losses in derivatives the stock market will crash soon after. I'm still looking for that article..
 Quoting: MississippiBlkMan




Found the video


The banks that the Federal Reserve will buy these securities from will use the money to buy US treasuries and not be used to help the economy. The same is happening in other western countries including Europe. The estimated $600 Trillion to $1.5 Quadrillion derivatives market will be used to bring down every currency in the World simultaneously so that the humanity will be begging the elite to give them a new world electronic currency.
 Quoting: MississippiBlkMan


So QE3 marks the beginning of the end of the United States of America....and nothing happened UNBELIEVABLE!
 Quoting: khnum 455005


The dominos are falling.....
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The FED does a self sacrifice? Only if its members profit.
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


Their owners profit, by having had 100 years to truly skim wealth, and then dissolve before people get wise to the fact.

They would gain nothing with a "let them eat cake" moment.

The problem is, that then, everything has to roll up to the bank of international settlements. The Europe situation allows the ECB to basically say "can't pick up the phone right now, I am busy"

BIS knows it is comming and they have been throwing out interesting comments lately, (sarcasm with a polka beat)

"I dont want her you can have her she's (reserve currency managment) is too fat for me."

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Seriously, watch how the BIS is positioning itself and you know how this ends. Unless they do the war thing.
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