Wanna End Foodstamps? Wanna End Welfare? Raise The Minimum Wage To $10.00 Per Hr. | |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 22543554 United Kingdom 09/29/2012 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's fine in principle, as long as employers are fair and don't collude to keep wages artificially low. which is why you have laws against market fixing and you punish abusers severely and publicly Is that practical given how "embedded" with government big corporations are though? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 09/29/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You're wrong. Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements: NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE That's what made America the best nation on Earth. Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE And family, friends and community provide for those who are truly sick/disabled. Not those that are just lazy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21569102 United States 09/29/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5248308 You're wrong. Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements: NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE That's what made America the best nation on Earth. Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE Minimum wage should be $0.00 You get paid what you're worth and not a penny more. And if you're a stupid roid, you get fired for being a stupid roid. Lazy bastards starve. Stupid bastards starve. It's called EVOLUTION, people. It's called SLAVERY so you think it's not slavery when you are forced to work for fiat dollars to feed yourself? just as long as your paid 15 of those fiat dollars an hour or do you need $25... I mean it's free for your masters to print up and all.... you can't just go claim some land and grow some food and raise some chickens man you got to have MONEY to live in this world geezzzz that sounds a LOT like slavery... hmmmmm At least you get your benefits and living comfortably. What I'm against is paying workers shit wages and expect them not to complain. The cost of living is going up but not the wages. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14159363 United States 09/29/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You're wrong. Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements: NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE That's what made America the best nation on Earth. Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE No that would just mean alot of dead rich people by guillotine and a revolution. Wake up. Unless thats your goal? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23367695 Canada 09/29/2012 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Outsourcing ...IMHO should be outlawed! It makes absolutely no (economic) sense to leave a large country jobless and give the jobs to another country who pay their workers pennies per day. 7 days without food and you die so its not a joke. The only jobs out there hiring right now are govt (public sector) jobs. Unless you are lucky enough to find a niche market out there to become self-employed. more job creation would be nice BESIDES service industry teen jobs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1454445 United States 09/29/2012 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those demanding a min wage increase are economic illiterates. Quoting: [email protected] What happens when you do that is the businesses then need to raise their prices to cover their increased labor costs. This wipes out the wage rise. And it's not just min wages that go up - the whole wage scale shifts higher to accomodate the increase on the bottom end. So the price increases reflect this entire shift and will render any wage increase moot because of higher prices. Dumbasses. That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water. There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation. Have you been to arby's lately? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24599639 United States 09/29/2012 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One idea, that will be decried as socialist here on GLP, would be to have different minimum wages based on the skill level of a job. Maybe no minimum for unskilled jobs, with a higher one for jobs needing say a high school education, and higher still for jobs needing a college degree. Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux More red tape just to be able to discriminate on the basis of education? Terrible idea. |
Anonymous Coward 09/29/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those demanding a min wage increase are economic illiterates. Quoting: [email protected] What happens when you do that is the businesses then need to raise their prices to cover their increased labor costs. This wipes out the wage rise. And it's not just min wages that go up - the whole wage scale shifts higher to accomodate the increase on the bottom end. So the price increases reflect this entire shift and will render any wage increase moot because of higher prices. Dumbasses. That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water. There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation. Have you been to arby's lately? cum hoc ergo propter hoc |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5248308 United States 09/29/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24599639 There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation. My God are you stupid!!!! When I was a boy, the minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. Gasoline was $0.15 a gallon. You could buy 7 gallons of gasoline for an hour's work. Today gas is $4.00 a gallon. You would need a minimum wage of $28.00 an hour to equal my minimum wage in 1965 in purchasing power. But, no, you people are earning only $7.50 an hour now for minimum wage... maybe, what, $10.00? AAHAHAHAHahahahahah.... You're making about 35% of my minimum wage now. And you know why? BECAUSE THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS RAISED AND INFLATION ATE UP EVERY BIT OF YOUR GAIN AND THEN HALF AGAIN AS MUCH. DUMBASSES!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24599639 United States 09/29/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You're wrong. Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements: NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE That's what made America the best nation on Earth. Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE No that would just mean alot of dead rich people by guillotine and a revolution. Wake up. Unless thats your goal? Exactly |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 22543554 United Kingdom 09/29/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think of it this way Quoting: ^TrInItY^ it's because of minimum wage that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is made in china now that's why the USA has lost its entire manufacturing base this is actually what neutered the USA minimum wage and credit to anyone who wants it.. things DO cost more in America than the rest of the world.. it's all relative you see to a chinamen just out of the bush $2 an hour is a shitload the USA cannot compete with that worker because of minimum wage Factoring in the cost of living though, could someone in say, Pittsburgh, realistically pay bills and live on $18-$20 per day? |
GreenRaven User ID: 23433013 United States 09/29/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think of it this way Quoting: ^TrInItY^ it's because of minimum wage that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is made in china now that's why the USA has lost its entire manufacturing base this is actually what neutered the USA minimum wage and credit to anyone who wants it.. things DO cost more in America than the rest of the world.. it's all relative you see to a chinamen just out of the bush $2 an hour is a shitload the USA cannot compete with that worker because of minimum wage Exactly. Global wage arbitrage. Unless you stick tariffs on everything it's a race to the bottom, and raising the wages in this country will not only not help, it will HURT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24599639 United States 09/29/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24599639 There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation. My God are you stupid!!!! When I was a boy, the minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. Gasoline was $0.15 a gallon. You could buy 7 gallons of gasoline for an hour's work. Today gas is $4.00 a gallon. You would need a minimum wage of $28.00 an hour to equal my minimum wage in 1965 in purchasing power. But, no, you people are earning only $7.50 an hour now for minimum wage... maybe, what, $10.00? AAHAHAHAHahahahahah.... You're making about 35% of my minimum wage now. And you know why? BECAUSE THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS RAISED AND INFLATION ATE UP EVERY BIT OF YOUR GAIN AND THEN HALF AGAIN AS MUCH. DUMBASSES!!!! Nope, minimum wage is not the driver of inflation. Try again. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14159363 United States 09/29/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think of it this way Quoting: ^TrInItY^ it's because of minimum wage that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is made in china now that's why the USA has lost its entire manufacturing base this is actually what neutered the USA minimum wage and credit to anyone who wants it.. things DO cost more in America than the rest of the world.. it's all relative you see to a chinamen just out of the bush $2 an hour is a shitload the USA cannot compete with that worker because of minimum wage No. The reason is that American businessmen were greedy as hell. Had they gone in and promoted human rights and unions they would have been able o check China's growth through NGO's and Union bosses so that China couldn't grow faster than America. The kings of dirty tricks in Africa saw all that cheap labor and forgot their trick bad. Now they are regretting it as the Wests quality of life is being dragged down through wages to the Chinese slave labor level. |
Joker User ID: 1437768 United States 09/29/2012 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF lets make it $100.00 an hour. Ok Everyone makes 250,000 at a year. If 10 dollar would be good let go for the best. Yeah that will work. lol I hope you see by this I am joking? Last Edited by Joker on 09/29/2012 04:17 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24599639 United States 09/29/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think of it this way Quoting: ^TrInItY^ it's because of minimum wage that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is made in china now that's why the USA has lost its entire manufacturing base this is actually what neutered the USA minimum wage and credit to anyone who wants it.. things DO cost more in America than the rest of the world.. it's all relative you see to a chinamen just out of the bush $2 an hour is a shitload the USA cannot compete with that worker because of minimum wage Exactly. Global wage arbitrage. Unless you stick tariffs on everything it's a race to the bottom, and raising the wages in this country will not only not help, it will HURT. There SHOULD be tariffs, instead of all this "freemarket" bullshit. |
GreenRaven User ID: 23433013 United States 09/29/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Until there are tariffs raising wages (as well as loading up the struggling economy with more bullshit regs) will just shove more jobs offshore. Not sure what I think about tariffs, there are both pros and cons to them. The problem now is that if we tariff Chinese imports it will be taken as an act of war, and they'll dump our debt at minimum and maybe even go into a hot war in the Pacific. They have us over a barrel, it's economic blackmail. All this discussion is really pointless, the time for it would have been 30 years ago before things got so out of hand. Last Edited by GreenRaven on 09/29/2012 04:21 PM |
Jericho9 User ID: 7913305 United States 09/29/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You don't get it. If you raise the min wage then prices GO UP and that negates the wage increase. AND benefits??? You have ZERO concept of this on an employer. This TOO gets passed onto the price of goods. Most employers run on a thin profit margin. Take money away from that and there only choice is to close or raise prices. Think with your head and not just with your heart. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3431153 United States 09/29/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You're wrong. Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements: NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE That's what made America the best nation on Earth. Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE yup that's why we were a nation of hard asses now we're a nation of lard asses drugged up on anti-depressants no drive for anything just a bunch of seething slugs it's pathetic & disgusting The ironic thing is that it's capitalism that turned us into said lard asses, namely pharmaceutical companies capitalizing upon perceived problems that they caused the sheeple to perceive themselves as having, so they pump said sheeple full of drugs. It's the Hegelian Dialectic in full swing. It's also the fault of the parents who let the government and the media and all these electronic gadgets raise their children instead of they themselves doing it. But yeah, I agree with you that lack of rugged individualism is also a factor. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23719187 United States 09/29/2012 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? "what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too... The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 09/29/2012 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You don't get it. If you raise the min wage then prices GO UP and that negates the wage increase. AND benefits??? You have ZERO concept of this on an employer. This TOO gets passed onto the price of goods. Most employers run on a thin profit margin. Take money away from that and there only choice is to close or raise prices. Think with your head and not just with your heart. Yeah. The wages in North Dakota went way up because of the oil fields. But so did everything else. Everything just skyrocketed. The more people make the more things go up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17549114 United States 09/29/2012 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | C Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? Guess it never dawned on you that some people prefer to collect welfare because they DON'T want to work? Guess it never dawned on you that some poor people prefer to work. Since you are having trouble understanding my point, let me use a crayon and color a picture for your dumb ass... It doesn't matter what minimum wage pays...some people will prefer to take from others than actually go out and earn it. Condesending asshole. Thats going on at the top of the wage scale too. Earmarks? They earn that? You said "some". I said "some" Go play with your crayons |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14391584 Canada 09/29/2012 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? What's unemployment already? Do you think company that do not hire now will do when minimum wage is at 10? Explain how, For your education check that out : [link to www.learnliberty.org] What needs to be done is : - massive tax cut, - massive spending cut, - and tell the banksters to go f... themselves. So it won't happen because the gov and banks are all the same mafia. And more to show you how dumb is your idea : why don't you go with $100 as minimum wage for everyone to be millionaires? |