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Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!

 
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


fuck you hebe....we were living closer to the creator long before you fucks ruined it for the rest of humanity.
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You were pantheistic savages, worshiping the CREATURE, and NOT the creator.
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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
SHIT! I'm one state away. Good luck to them, hope the feds don't "Ruby Ridge" them.

Does this mean they will no longer accept the govt checks every month?
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. . . considering what "Israel" gets, The Lakota Nation should make out a lot better now:

Israel Is The 5th Richest Nation In The Middle East:
[link to www.aneki.com]
Countries With The Best Health Care:

Israel couldnot be listed Because They Keep Bombing
Palestinians.

Countries With Highest National Debt:
USA is the highest in the world
Israel has NONE
[link to www.aneki.com]

Countries With The Highest Quality Of Life:
Funding Sodom:
[link to www.ynetnews.com]
Army Vandalize Palestinian Homes And Smear Feces (Shit) On Walls:
[link to vodpod.com]
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From memory, Means ran for Lakota chief a couple times and lost. He's a long-time activist. AIM. Part of the group of 300 that took over wounded knee and stood off the feds for quite awhile... pretty well-known..
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


fuck you hebe....we were living closer to the creator long before you fucks ruined it for the rest of humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24570412


You were pantheistic savages, worshiping the CREATURE, and NOT the creator.
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Just because one believes in a different creater then you do does not make them savages. You throwing a hiss fit this way makes you look like one.
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09/29/2012 07:56 PM
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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
just started looking into this,

[link to www.sovereignlife.com]
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I did that several years ago. It is probably worth the 49usd just for the information.

Keep in mind that there really aren't any free countries and these kind of things (sovereign life) are set up to make a living for people in this case David. Who I actually found to be a gentleman.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


So is it a scam or can it be done?

Thanks for the info.
 Quoting: TDJ


It isn't a scam as such. David had a deal once where he promised nothing in return for investors, as I remember, just send money. It was a gold mining sure thing I.P.O. and sure enough there was nothing in return.

He also had a scheme where you could sell memberships and make money. I forget the exact details.

As I said the information is valuable particularly the forum. Just different people and their experiences and ideas. I was on there 5-6 years ago or so. So I am really not current.

The thing to remember is that there is a whole class of people who prey on expatriates or people who want to expatriate. Prey might not quite be the right word but it is the right word for a lot of them.

Typically and I'll make this short and simple.

A guy marries a local woman. She knows the language and the locals. He (just for example) acquires land, touts the land via internet about how wonderful and tranquil country X is and sells the land to a gringo at gringo prices.

There are usually all kinds of problems for the buyer that he never anticipated or realized would happen or thought about.

The only way to expatriate is go to country x and live there for several months. I mean live there, as in renting a place, and all the other things that entails.

Just being a tourist or a traveler will tell you nothing.
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


fuck you hebe....we were living closer to the creator long before you fucks ruined it for the rest of humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24570412


You were pantheistic savages, worshiping the CREATURE, and NOT the creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24202972


Just because one believes in a different creater then you do does not make them savages. You throwing a hiss fit this way makes you look like one.
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Throwing a "hiss fit"? LOL...

Only in the mind of a Eurotard, can fantasy become reality.
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Time for DHS posse in the Neo-West

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There's plenty of room for all God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes...noli timere messorem
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i feel an invasion coming along.

I like one comment " if Sioux can do it, Texas can too " damn straight. Get out of debt and reissue currency.
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09/29/2012 08:17 PM
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


fuck you hebe....we were living closer to the creator long before you fucks ruined it for the rest of humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24570412


You were pantheistic savages, worshiping the CREATURE, and NOT the creator.
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You need to read a bit more.
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09/29/2012 08:29 PM
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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
How can I get a citizenship from them?
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Gotta have 1/64 Injun in ya.
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little bit more than that....

try 1/8
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09/29/2012 08:33 PM
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sounds good no more welfare for the injuns and confiscate all their casinos and funds fuck. them oh leave the cheap tobacco stores alone though
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09/29/2012 08:36 PM
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clappa
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


fuck you hebe....we were living closer to the creator long before you fucks ruined it for the rest of humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24570412


You were pantheistic savages, worshiping the CREATURE, and NOT the creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24202972


Nah...I think you got it backwards. You're WORSHIPING the CREATURE...not the creator. Otherwise, we'd still have a country worth a damn.

You got a president that's screwing up the nation, promoting all sorts of sick and disturbing policies, and you have the NERVE to claim that someone else's religion and way of life in incorrect?

This is now the nation of the anti-christ...and you're worshiping its God.

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 09/29/2012 08:38 PM
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
I grew up on a ranch in Nevada, about a mile from a Paiute Indian Reservation and I'm not so sure secession is going to work. Although American Indians tend to be a proud people, they've lost their self reliance and have to depend on government checks to make ends meet. Yeah, I know there are some casinos, pencil companies, timber companies, tobacco companies etc that are Indian owned but I don't thing that's going to sustain them. Charging outsiders for land & natural resource use isn't going to be enough either. The mindset of dependency would have to change.

Don't misunderstand me, I fully support what they're trying to do but secession would mean ending Federal & State dollars flowing into their coffers - assuming the Fed's would ever allow it in the first place.

The old days and the old ways are gone forever. It was a good way but it ended with the culling of the buffalo and the building of the railroad.
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"President Barack Obama has an unexpected foreign policy problem – in the Western United States. The Lakota Sioux nation has seceded from the United States, according to a story on the anti-American website La Voz de Aztlan.

“We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us,” long-time Native American radical leader Russell Means said. The move potentially impacts the states of Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and Wyoming."

[link to cnsnews.com]

Good for them!
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Wounded Knee, Part III
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09/29/2012 08:42 PM
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GOODBYE LAKPOTAS. THEY WERE INDEPENDENT ALL THIS TIME ANYWAYS SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL NOW?
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09/29/2012 08:45 PM
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OH I FORGOT TO SAY; MY OLD MAN USED TO KNOW OLD RUSSEL, HE SAID HE IS AN ASSHOLE. AND MY OLD MAN WAS AN INDIAN.
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I grew up on a ranch in Nevada, about a mile from a Paiute Indian Reservation and I'm not so sure secession is going to work. Although American Indians tend to be a proud people, they've lost their self reliance and have to depend on government checks to make ends meet. Yeah, I know there are some casinos, pencil companies, timber companies, tobacco companies etc that are Indian owned but I don't thing that's going to sustain them. Charging outsiders for land & natural resource use isn't going to be enough either. The mindset of dependency would have to change.

Don't misunderstand me, I fully support what they're trying to do but secession would mean ending Federal & State dollars flowing into their coffers - assuming the Fed's would ever allow it in the first place.

The old days and the old ways are gone forever. It was a good way but it ended with the culling of the buffalo and the building of the railroad.
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Not to disagree but Means is well aware of the negatives. From what I remember he has in mind something different from the old ways.
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


skull_fing:skull_:skull_fing::skull_fing:skull_fingfing:
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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
This is nothing new.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I live in the area of ND they are trying to reclaim. Frankly I wish they'd end the Reservation system all together. Just give the land over to the Tribes and let them do with it what they will.
 Quoting: FAKENATE 22671231


Agreed...
But, end all Federal Welfare Payments, first.
Most folks would be STUNNED to learn how much $$$ we send to the Rez's, much of it that never makes it to the average Indian, but enriches the leadership.

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LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF UNITED STATES WANT SOME INFLUENCE AROUND HERE AND ARE USING LAKOTAS FOR IT. AND OF COURSE OLD RUSSELL IS USING ALL THAT FOR HIS OWN GAIN LIKE USUALLY, LOL.
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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
I grew up on a ranch in Nevada, about a mile from a Paiute Indian Reservation and I'm not so sure secession is going to work. Although American Indians tend to be a proud people, they've lost their self reliance and have to depend on government checks to make ends meet. Yeah, I know there are some casinos, pencil companies, timber companies, tobacco companies etc that are Indian owned but I don't thing that's going to sustain them. Charging outsiders for land & natural resource use isn't going to be enough either. The mindset of dependency would have to change.

Don't misunderstand me, I fully support what they're trying to do but secession would mean ending Federal & State dollars flowing into their coffers - assuming the Fed's would ever allow it in the first place.

The old days and the old ways are gone forever. It was a good way but it ended with the culling of the buffalo and the building of the railroad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16269683


Not to disagree but Means is well aware of the negatives. From what I remember he has in mind something different from the old ways.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


What do you think his true aim is then? More Federal money or something else?
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


fuck you hebe....we were living closer to the creator long before you fucks ruined it for the rest of humanity.
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lolsign
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Although he likes to think so, Russell Means is not Chief or King of the Lakota and has no tribal authority.
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Better go to war with these anti-semetic scalpers. They consider Jewish bankers to be evil. Get over it. Not our fault the weak little english rejects murdered you. We NEVER paid them to kill you, and Jewish lenders offered you reasonable interest rates. Enjoy being the next palestine, you ungrateful swine!
 Quoting: American jew 1253997


fuck you hebe....we were living closer to the creator long before you fucks ruined it for the rest of humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24570412


lolsign
 Quoting: Terpsichore


SO OK STOP ACCEPTING GOBURMENT MONEY AND BE INBDEPENDENTR THEN, OK?
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i feel an invasion coming along.

I like one comment " if Sioux can do it, Texas can too " damn straight. Get out of debt and reissue currency.
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You're pretty damned bright for a pom.

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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
i feel an invasion coming along.

I like one comment " if Sioux can do it, Texas can too " damn straight. Get out of debt and reissue currency.
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You're pretty damned bright for a pom.

cheers
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FUCK INVASION, WE WILL JUST GO WILD WEST ON THEM ALL AGAIN, SEE HOW LONG THAT LASTS, LOL.
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Re: Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
If all 50 states seceded from the union wouldn't that leave D.C. with all the debt?
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the truth is, indian elders and other indians don't want anything to do with russell and his henchmen, i read on an indian site months ago. this is just some russell & and foreign propaganda.
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Yes, because when a site says something it makes it true.

I have no problem with secession. Just when they actually legally secede, then you can make a thread :P
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all native American tribes are considered nations.Thats why the constitution only allows them to be dealt with by treaty.
If the government has violated the treaty , then their own personal government has the right to do as they wish. But like anything else ... well you know

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