I have a job posting w/ the Texas Work Force Commission starting @ $12. an hr. Guess how applications I have gotten.

so what you're saying is that if you are a good little slave and you kiss your bosses ass, you will get rewarded? what a waste of life

I would like to point out that if minimum wage were adjusted for inflation since inception it would today be $15.75 an hour. I find that ironic because when minimum wage was concieved it was meant to be a minimum living wage and many men supported a family on that minimum wage. What would it take today to effectively support a family today? Interestingly about $15-$16 an hour.

^^^This^^^

Guess how many applications he'd have if we cancelled welfare.

I'm sure you charged like $10 to $15 per hour building your company....NOT.
$12/hr isn't bad to start if you're 18 years old with zero experience. You teach em' and in a few years he/she's at a living wage of $25 - $35 per hour.

We've been told to work hard and climb that ladder. My starting wage 35 years ago was $12/hr. The union scale is now at about $48 - $55 per hour when you add in the benefits. Now they say there's no work and that we need to start over at the new normal living wage of $12 per hour. Meanwhile you're charging $60 to $80 per hour and if you're not then you're a fool.

Why isn't your ad for an experienced operator at $30 to $40?

You need to pay a person a LIVING WAGE! And if you want a good worker to stay around and be loyal you need to reward them with pay increases and benefits.

OP sounds like a welfare recipient himself!,
$12hr for What?

If you fill ZERO job's what good are you??

Am I the only one who see's this as a Failure on the OPie's Part??

My husband says people do not want to work. He says some start and quit within two weeks.

Nice post.


We, the people, are being royally screwed.

youre missing important plot points chucklefuck

Seems as if you can say the same for yourself if you don't recognize a rhetorical comment when you read it.

Just from reading the title without clicking on the thread I could tell that the answer was going to be "zero."

$12 is a good starting pay for entry level positions

Why is everyone beating up the OP

He cannot change the economic situation we are all in

My company starts new hires at $10 and we give $1 raises monthly

Its hard to imagine living off of $12 an hour but I used to do it and worked hard to make more

OP, good for you and don't let GLP get you down

You can't blame them if you're only going to pay people who are used to $30 per hour $12 per hour.

I find this arrogant attitude one of most american (us citizens that is) least endearing qualities...

So what 11360402- would be your solution???
let em starve? or maybe a good old `culling' would be more to your taste...

Has it ever crossed your mind that may- just maybe- your excessive crime rate would drop if people were not left to starve on the streets?

(Do you know that in New York City alone- there are more homeless people than live in the largest city in Australia??)

go back to see the list of countries that have a higher crime rate index than the usa...


all 3 of them...


tard...

I don't make $10 an hour Asstralian but like i said, too bad your opinion doesn't matter : )

Sounds like a good job to me..I'd apply if I were there.

I don't either septic tank, but like I said too bad your opinion doesn't matter outside of the usa...

`here there be dragons' LOL

$12.00 per hour wouldn't be that bad if OP would provide room and board and pay cash. Just saying. But too often employers forget that $12.00 per hour doesn't pay for an apartment or anything else for that matter. After you factor in the cost of going to and from work, wear and tear on car, cost of clothes, medical insurance, lunch (that's if you can afford to eat lunch), after doing a basic coast analysis, it makes more sense to stay at home or in the homeless camp...

Shit! I'd take that job in a second if I were qualified. I'm living on 700 a month with disability.

This thread is making me sick. All you people claiming you cant live off 12 bucks an hour are either trolling or are some self important entitlement basement dwellers. You dont start out a job making tons of money, you work your way up and businesses dont "owe" you a fucking thing when you start. Just because it doesnt live up to what your opinion of a "living wage" is doesnt mean thats reality. Now maybe 12 bucks an hour where you live isnt, but where op lives its probably pretty decent. Here in arkansas at the company i work for we start people out at 10 bucks or less at times depending on position. Hell i started 15 years ago there making 5.25 per hour. Weve got people there now who have been there 7 plus years and are just making 12 per hour and are living just fine, new cars, houses, etc. all just depends on where you are as far as a "living wage" goes

Mom: Son just where are you getting all that money...Is it Drugs?...It's Drugs Isn't it, are you dealing drugs,...please tell me you aren't dealing drugs are you son???

Son: NO MA I'm not a drug dealer, I just Beat My Meat for Money!

Wow, where is this?

So in two years I'll be at $34/hr?
$46/hr in three years?
$58/hr in four years?
$70/hr in five years?
$82/hr in six years?
What's your pension like?
$100,000/year for life?

Sign me up!

Minimum you should be paying a guy to shovel all day for you is $20, unless we are talking wetbacks.

Nobody in their right mind is going to shovel all day and take home less than $100.

This is coming from someone who has 10 years in landscaping, 12 in plowing snow, a bachelor's degree, and holds a job making minimum plus tips.

BTW people, appropriate time to tip is when someone does something for you that you could have done yourself.

I've lived on less..

I've lived on less..

Why would I tip If I could have done it myself? I tip for a job well done..or for someone going over and above, not for something I could do myself..

you paying under the table OP? Makes a difference.

"Its hard to imagine living off of $12 an hour but I used to do it and worked hard to make more

OP, good for you and don't let GLP get you down"

Yeah, I used to live off of $12.00 an hour back in 1995, when most jobs around the Austin area were paying $8.00. I was also married and didn't have to worry. I also drove 52 miles to and from work when gas was just under 90 cents a gallon. So don't don't give me this "I used to do it" crap...Inflation has made it almost impossible for workers making less than $15.00 per hour to feed their families and to live in a decent apartment.

Back in the day, an employer would provide housing, food, and it wasn't uncommon for an employee to work themselves up through the company ranks. Companies were stable and didn't cull employees when their stock took a hit. There was something called "Loyalty" that existed between employer and employee. It's not like that any more. Companies will often let employees go after a couple of years (rift) then re-hire lower cost employees in order to keep their stock holders happy. What we are witnessing is the ugly side of capitalism. That's why, I believe there is a move among some in the US society to favor socialism.

That doesn't sound like a bad job. Here's some perspective for you:

I am a U.S. military pilot with 6 years of flight experience. If you add up the hours I work per week between briefing, preflighting, flying, post flight, paperwork and miscellaneous collateral duties...

My pay averages out to $18 an hour. Before taxes.

So that $12 an hour job? I was in the military for 6 years before I made more than that. I've been in for 11 now.

So a job where people aren't trying to kill you and you make more than half the people in the military and you can be home with your wife and kids every night and your hours are set 9 to 5 and you don't have to work weekends or sleep on a couch at the squadron because you're so undermanned that you have to cover other people's jobs too? Sign me the fuck up.

My neighbor is on food stamps and disability. That mother fucker eats better than I do. I come home at 1am from working 80 hour work weeks and that mother fucker is sitting in his lawn chair drinking beer and smoking weed all day. Where the fuck to I sign up for that program?

Oh and for what it's worth...that $770 billion for the defense budget every year? Fuck me if I know where it goes...we get paid shit, every plane I have ever flown in the last 6 years was built between 1968 - 1991 and the only bathroom at my workplace has a hole busted in the wall, both urinals wrapped in trash bags and piss and shit water running out the bottom of the toilets and all over the floor.

This is the state of our country: crooks and the criminally lazy are rewarded more for their efforts than people who work full time jobs or risk their lives and the country is going bankrupt supporting this kind of shit. Meanwhile my work hours keep increasing as the average person has to work longer and longer hours to sustain the unsustainable. I'm about to be divorced for the second time and I'm not even 30...mostly because I'm never home...I'm either in a foreign country having pot shots taken at me or when I am home I'm having to sleep on the couch at work because the military is stretched so thin that the only solution at this point is to use people to the point of exhaustion to make up for lack of working equipment, manpower and money.