I have a job posting w/ the Texas Work Force Commission starting @ $12. an hr. Guess how applications I have gotten.

I was making 13 an hour at my job when it went under .

I couldn't find work for 3 years, had to settle for a 10 an hr job.

Sad thing is when looking for work, you find discrimination.
Many of these people hiring now are minorities. They are only hire other minorities for the better paying jobs.

The only jobs that even offered interviews with me was white people.

To many Mexicans as bosses now.

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respectable offer?? It's insulting especially to a skilled trained shovel operator. Perhaps thats why noone applied.

OP too busy thinking about his profits. bottom line.

Post the job at $20/hr and you'll see people start applying.

Wile I disagree with the current war state we are in...I'd like to thank you for your service to our country and for keeping me and mine safe....THANK YOU!

This explains lot...

:-(

Want to install towbars for twice that??

move out from the septic states...

YOu shoould get you some Meskins... they will work for that much and be GLAD for the job.

They'll live of ONE of those 660 checks, and send the rest home

$12 an hour to dig holes is pretty good. I've lived off that with my wife (who doesn't work) and my son and I've always been able to pay $550 a month for rent and $150 for electricity, plus $100 for insurance and never run out of gas in either car or not have steak and potatoes to eat. We have cable and go out every weekend, but we don't have any debt or credit card bills so maybe thats what it is. Oh and my 2 cell phones cost me $40 a month both lines unlimited from ATT.

[link to www.defencejobs.gov.au]

pay peanuts....


(how does that saying end???)

;-)

Please post the ad so we can assess it properly.

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You must have made the blunder that most posters do and that is NOT READING THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE POSTING A REPLY!!!...Opie has been long gone, since about page 4 I think

I'm in the mountain states and $12 x 50 hrs is actually working poor once you deduct all the Soc Security, FICA, Medicare, etc + any health care you might offer (and deduct from the pay)and I'm basing that on a household of one or two people.
When these lame assed politicans say they're worried about the middle class, it means they are worried about people making $250,000 a year (THAT IS MIDDLE CLASS),not your future employee who'll gross about $29,000.
So you might think you're being generous at $12 per hr, but it's actually mediocre pay by today's standards and don't even start on the real inflation of 30% on fuel and food, 'cause the gov't never factors those things in when they post inflation stats.

All 5hrs ago....

OP... you're fighting a verbal war with liberal leeches that prefer to get their money for free under this current food stamp, free housing, free just about anything you want as long as you are minority, or illegal, entitlement prez.

$12/hour for a full time job at 50 hours a week?

If you offered that here nobody in the country would ever take that. In fact I think for where I live that's actually below the minimum wage for full time work. Not to mention that here, those sorts of jobs can often get paid double that per hour.

Bills are expensive as fuck these days, unless the US is an ultra cheap place to live I don't know how anybody with a partner or a family could justify working a $12/hour job.

I run my own business also.

It ( $12 hr )is a good wage for a starting pay for an honest days work. Heck I still dig my footings by hand and hire people at $12 hr to help me. Hard to find people today that will do manual labor .

Better than working at Mcdonalds and having to deal with obese loud mouth bitchy customers for $10hr

If by working poor you mean an under 18yr old mcdonalds worker here- then that's about right...

But then most people aren't as underpaid as the normal us worker appears to be..

The complaining about `cheap off shore labour' seems a tad hypocritical, when it seems that most usa based workers dont get any more than most other countries, and a damn sight less than many others do- and they get a lot more in return to boot

I've lived on less than 12 per hour and had to support 3 kids..but I also didnt get free government base housing or food that was cheaper on base..etc etc etc..so those military can live on less pay because of all the cheaper living etc they get.

Same here, but to get to where I am at today I had to start working at $4.25 per hr back in 1981. I worked my way up the ladder saving money where I could and paying off all my debt as soon as possible, then stuck all I could into my own business. Without starting at the bottom and working my ass off to achieve the goal of owning my own business I would be a loser at 50 whining about not being able to live on $12 per hr.

Thanks OP, it's guys like you who give those just starting out a chance to work their way up the ladder.

This. I tried to apply for the job I now have, and they did everything they could to prevent me from applying for it because my "skill set" did not match. My job is a little over $100,000 a year I had to go through three levels of supervisors to end up applying for the job, and I GOT THE JOB. I honestly think they didn't want me to have an opportunity to get his job because I had to apply for it at the TWC office in a predominantly black community, and I am white. I'm not a racist but I'm also a realist, just sayin'........

Sand in your mangina?

That reply proves that Americans have become lazy and avoid work and any chance to be productive member of society at all costs.

the useless eaters are already replying that $12 an hour is not enough for them to get off the couch shut off the Xbox and go to work as they get paid to do nothing by the Government.

Let's see......
$0 per hr VS. $12 per hr

I make $13.55 per hr, work 50+hrs per week
I am a single mom, get NO Child Support- pay all my bills and living expenses and that of a teenager as well!! (teens are so expensive!)
Yes I live with my Fiance', but we both have mortgages to pay, as I own a house of my own. and when its not being rented I pay (plus any and all repairs for it)!! I had to get a new/used vehicle this year as a Buck decided to murder my old one, I pay the monthly payments on that plus Full coverage Ins. I survive on my paycheck and have little left over- I budget budget budget!!! AND I DO WITHOUT!!!!

Seriously--people pay for luxuries they DO NOT NEED!!!! My cell phone is not and never will be fancy with all the unneeded crap--its a phone!! I use it to communicate with my daughter, to know where she is while I am at work. To call family and catch up on things--my computer is old, by todays standards--I use it for computer things..we have BASIC Cable/Internet. We really don't watch much on the globtube!
We don't go out much, as it is a luxury so we save up for it!
His kids and mine are in sports and music..there are always fundraisers for school- and we get by on our pay...

I will never get welfare again in my life (I had to a long long time ago and felt so completely shitty about myself, but I needed the medical, and found 3 temp jobs until I found a full time job to get off of it)

What the OP is offering is a JOB!!! Not WELFARE!!!
If a person is to good to roll up their sleeves and WORK then they DO NOT DESERVE MY HARD EARNED MONIES!!! I understand that there are times when one needs help-been there-but it should NEVER become a way of life! I am not young anymore and I should not have to work so damned hard for a living (at my age anyway)--BUT it sure as hell beats sitting on my ass sucking up someone else's hard eard monies!

I want for nothing in my life-I have helped my older children with finances-I pay for the things my youngest needs and wants--I have a place to live(its NOTHING SPECIAL, just an old house)--I drive a used vehicle, but it runs and I keep it maintained to keep it running!!--my home decor is things our kids have made at school and other places, our TV's are old but work--we have FOOD to eat (and I can make hamburger and chicken a million different ways!)--we all have clean clothes to wear, sometimes even brand new!--we play boardgames,cards, the kids ride bikes or walk (ok I am teaching my teenager to drive- so I pray no more deer cross the road while she is driving!!)--they have friends, we have friends, so everyone has social entertainment outside of our little home!!

Seriously if people quit thinking they NEED the luxury condos, houses etc...the newest gadgets of cell phones and computers....the newest vehicles out there.. the latest fashions ETC....... lived within their means....I know I know I am a tad crazy for saying that BUT-- and the biggest thing PEOPLE NEED TO DO IS-------BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE, right there infront of their ego-centered lives!! STOP crying about what others have over themselves! If you want something you do not need, find an HONEST way to get it--like save up for it! My kids had to have jobs before they got cell phones and pay their share of the bill...including my youngest (babysitting extra chores, as the laws have changed for teens working and teen driving), they also had to pay for the increase in my insurance to drive! My youngest can't wait to be fully licensed so she can get a job! and She already has a plan for her income--
goes like this

First part of her check goes to pay for--car insurance and cell phone
What is left over is split 3 ways
1. into her savings account for college and car
2. into her checking account for emergencies
3. into her pocket for spending monies

She wants to borrow money from her savings to buy her car and pay it back monthly when she gets a job.

She just turned 16 and she had this plan for herself 2yrs ago.

BE GRATEFUL IF YOU HAVE A JOB, no matter how crappy it may seem, BUDGET, its ok to NOT have the latest and greatest gadget!! If you are taking care of your family! Kids grow up and discover that they survived NOT having a bunch of crap!! My oldest and I just laughed about FURBIES yesterday, and how she and her sister wanted one so BAD and I would not get them one! Now she can't even remember what was so flippen great about a Furby!

Toys get broken or lost--LOVE LAST FOREVER!

What does a Big Mac and Fries cost in Australia, $12?

funnily enough thats about when I started my apprenticeship

I got a whole 92 bucks a week back then!!!

but then super cost 32c a litre (thats gas to you yanks)

its now 1.52 a litre

so just let us use that as a scale for `the same' cost of living

as a first year apprentice I would be getting $437 a week

hmmm

so lets use ciggies as a basis instead....


a pack of drum cost me $8
now its 38 a pack...

funnily enough- that works out I would be earning 437 a week

so really- using both of those as a baseline- a first year apprentice should be earning at least 437 a week- just to be exactly the same earning potential as I was back in the 80's


thats 11.50 an hour for a first year apprentice...

Our 'excessive' crime rate has little to do with poverty,friend, and a lot to do with an enabled [by welfare and social services], dysfunctional, and violent subculture.

And almost all that 'excessive' violence you refer to occurs in guess where? Do you think the average American town, suburb, rural area, or even many urban neighborhoods are the wild west? No, they aren't.

And please don't forget the U.S. has the 3rd largest population of any country on Earth, and is geographically the 3rd largest nation. In other-words, IT'S A BIG AND VERY DIVERSE COUNTRY.

Actually I am getting ready to load my ass into my truck and drive about 500 miles to start work on Monday. Leech? I own it.



Youu are a leech. A company owner that pays his employees just enough to get by, sounds like a real gem of a company keep up the hard work. 500 miles seems like all that hard work is paying off. Moran


This person is a troll. No one in their right mind says this kind of thing without an agenda or brain damage.

NYC is one of the biggest cities and metro areas ON EARTH! The city alone has over 8 million people, metro area is 19-21 million people, depending how it's counted.

And it doesn't have more homeless people than the population of Sydney.

um- per capita wasn't in your `schoolin' was it??
geographically- we are almost exactly the same size as the mainland usa and we are the BIGGEST ISLAND IN THE ENTIRE WORLD (see I can use caps too)
what that list showed was that despite the size, 1st or 3rd world country status, median income..

the usa is the 3rd most crime ridden country to live in in the entire world....

THE POINT IS THAT IT STILL ISNT'T ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I apologize- the 2 million wasn't for homeless people on the street, it was for people fed at homeless shelters

In New York City...
• Each night more than 50,000 people -- including more than 19,000 children -- experience homelessness.
• Currently 45,300 homeless men, women, and children bed down each night in the municipal shelter system.
• Additionally, more than 5,000 homeless adults and children sleep each night in other public shelters, and thousands more sleep rough on the streets or in other public spaces.


That's more than double the number of people that live in my entire city- homeless and living on the streets every night (and that's the official figures...)