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BREAKING: Turkey Deploys Military to Syrian Border in Response to Cross- Border Shelling - Signals Invasion Imminent

 
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Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) has deployed reinforcements to Suruç district near Syrian border after mortar shelling landed in Akçakale district from Syria.

20th Armored Brigade Command: a number of military transportation vehicles transferred dozens of tanks and armored vehicles to the Syrian border after mortar strike.

[link to www.todayszaman.com]


Turkey: Risk worth taking for Syria safe zones

Turkey's Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu called again for the establishment of safe zones for refugees in northern Syria - which would take a considerable military operation.

Mr Davutoglu would not be drawn on the fact that inserting a military force into Syria to establish a safe zone would be an act of war.

The risk, he said, was worth taking to get humanitarian access to the huge numbers of displaced people inside Syria.

Establishing the zone would, he said, also send a signal to Assad's regime to stop attacks that kill or wound civilians.

"If you don't taken certain measures or certain steps on time in the future you will be facing more risks. Unfortunately, since there was no clear message and decisive position of the international community at the early stages of the crisis, Syrian regime felt confident to do more and more attacks," he said.

"And if you do not take certain decisions today for the women, children escaping from these attacks, then we will be facing more risks in the future."

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I can't see them doing it, it's too risky. I'm guessing the US will tell them to back off again.
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I can't see them doing it, it's too risky. I'm guessing the US will tell them to back off again.
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The Chemical Weapons thing is in play
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WEST WILL NOT INTERVENE, IT'S TOO RISKY, THEY'LL KEEP SENDING TERRORIST IN.....
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Morning Doorbert, bring on the doom!cheers


Syrian state tv claims that 4 Turks have been killed in clashes with Syrian troops near Idlib while helping FSA.

[link to english.sina.com]
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I can't see them doing it, it's too risky. I'm guessing the US will tell them to back off again.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


The Chemical Weapons thing is in play
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Possibly, but I'm not sure Assad is that desperate yet.
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Morning Doorbert, bring on the doom!cheers


Syrian state tv claims that 4 Turks have been killed in clashes with Syrian troops near Idlib while helping FSA.

[link to english.sina.com]
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Morning IFUN

cheers
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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DB, do you think this might be related to the recently leaking story that the two Turkish pilots who were shot down were actually captured and then executed by the Syrian regime?
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Morning Doorbert, bring on the doom!cheers


Syrian state tv claims that 4 Turks have been killed in clashes with Syrian troops near Idlib while helping FSA.

[link to english.sina.com]
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What? Is this true? This would be serious or am i wrong?
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Does a war seems to erupt in coming days ???
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Morning Doorbert, bring on the doom!cheers


Syrian state tv claims that 4 Turks have been killed in clashes with Syrian troops near Idlib while helping FSA.

[link to english.sina.com]
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


What? Is this true? This would be serious or am i wrong?
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Okey just read the link, doesnt look like escalation hmm what else syria have to do to bring it to war
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Morning Doorbert, bring on the doom!cheers


Syrian state tv claims that 4 Turks have been killed in clashes with Syrian troops near Idlib while helping FSA.

[link to english.sina.com]
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


What? Is this true? This would be serious or am i wrong?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24676730


1dunno1
Dunno if this info is true, just posted what Syrian tv claimed, but i don't think it is big news tbh, they were rumors of Turkey taking a more active role along with FSA about a month ago, as the Iranians did with the Assad forces, they are not the first dead Turks found in Syria though.

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Remember - The guy who writes the checks has called for an Arab military intervention in Syria...

Here's an article from his family's network -

Is it time for Arab intervention in Syria? - Inside Syria - Al Jazeera English [link to www.aljazeera.com]

I thought Turkey would (officially) stay out of it....What kind of cancer does Erdogan have??
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Remember - The guy who writes the checks has called for an Arab military intervention in Syria...

Here's an article from his family's network -

Is it time for Arab intervention in Syria? - Inside Syria - Al Jazeera English [link to www.aljazeera.com]

I thought Turkey would (officially) stay out of it....What kind of cancer does Erdogan have??
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Stomach i read somewhere.
P.S. Didn't read your edit. chuckle

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Re: BREAKING: Turkey Deploys Military to Syrian Border in Response to Cross- Border Shelling - Signals Invasion Imminent
Remember - The guy who writes the checks has called for an Arab military intervention in Syria...

Here's an article from his family's network -

Is it time for Arab intervention in Syria? - Inside Syria - Al Jazeera English [link to www.aljazeera.com]

I thought Turkey would (officially) stay out of it....What kind of cancer does Erdogan have??
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Stomach i read somewhere.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


I was wondering if it had spread to his brain....( I moved my edit)...
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Where do you find all this breaking news? You should get paid for all this. Great info good find!
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Morning Doorbert, bring on the doom!cheers


Syrian state tv claims that 4 Turks have been killed in clashes with Syrian troops near Idlib while helping FSA.

[link to english.sina.com]
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


What? Is this true? This would be serious or am i wrong?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24676730


Seems serious if it's confirmed, but I wonder if Turkey would confirm it, since it would increase calls for action on Syria which they can't provide because of being held back by the US.
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Much thanks for another pin!!
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Where do you find all this breaking news? You should get paid for all this. Great info good find!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


cheers
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Turkey and Iran on the brink of war

[link to www.publici.com]

The rift between Turkey and Iran widened on Tuesday, August 7th, when the Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces threatened that "Turkey will be next in line for violence after Syria if it continues to work on behalf of Western interests. Ankara is toeing the Western (American) line in the region, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They are therefore accountable for the bloodshed in the Arab Republic [Syria]".

Tehran is also holding the US responsible for the lives of the 48 Iranian hostages whom Syrian rebels threaten to execute unless the Syrian army stops shelling Aleppo.

The US, Saudi Arabia and Qatar should know that the responsibility for the outbreak of war with Turkey will be on their shoulders. This is a further step in the deterioration of relations between Turkey and Iran.

Bashar al-Assad is fighting for his life and for the future of the Alawites and is searching for allies that can help him. Lately, he approached the Syrian Kurds and offered to withdraw the army from their towns and villages, and even grant them autonomy, as long as they pull out of the fight against him. This is a brilliant move, because the Kurds are the weakest link in the rebel coalition, and their withdrawal would inflict much damage on the rebellion. The agreement was accepted, Assad's army has left the Kurdish territories and the Kurds have been given control over most of their cities and over the border with Turkey (this is Turkey's longest border). To the Turks' horror, the Kurdish rebels have begun to hoist the PKK flag (the Kurdish underground in Turkey) in all the Kurdish territories in Syria and are not hiding their wish to found an independent Kurdish State or region, as they have done in Iraq.

This is a nightmare for Turkey and Erdoĝan, because now the Kurdish underground will be able to carry out attacks not only from the relatively short border with Iraq, but also from the Syrian border, which is completely open. The Turkish army has deployed forces along the border with Syria, however this is a very long and open border and it is hard to defend, especially when it is so close to Kurdish population centers in Turkey. This is Assad's revenge on Erdoĝan for supporting the rebels and for making a significant effort to topple him.

Erdoĝan is considering an invasion of Syria in order to create a buffer zone that would protect the rebels, similar to what NATO did in Libya at the time, eventually bringing around Gaddafi's demise. But this is where the Turkish nightmare gets worse: Iran, being aware of the implications of a buffer zone, has sent a stern message to the Turks (exposed by the Syrian "Alwattan" newspaper) that if Turkey dares to cross the border into Syria, it would retaliate against Turkey with great force and would even activate the Syrian-Iranian defense alliance of 2008. This is another blow for Turkey, which puts the Turkish Foreign Minister, Davutoĝlu's policy in an ironic and even ridiculous light, after talking about a "zero conflict" policy, only a few years ago.

Turkey's situation is worsening daily, because the Kurds have been growing stronger within Syria as well as in their ties to the Kurdish enclaves in the neighboring countries. Now Iraq has also warned Turkey not to continue bombing the Kurds in Iraq, and threatened retaliation if Turkey does not comply. The Iraqis are coordinating with Iran and thus narrowing Turkey's room to maneuver.

The cessation of military relations between Turkey and Israel following the Mavi-Marmara incident seems to be a serious mistake on the part of Turkey, which has become more and more isolated.
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Doorbert -

Looks like DOOM is on (and your posts this morning are spot on)

Morsi is in Turkey today to strengthen partnership between 2 countries...

Turkey, Egypt slam Syrian regime [link to www.boston.com]

Excerpt - Egypt’s new president, Mohammed Morsi, addressed a major congress of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s ruling party, amid signs that a partnership between their two countries is emerging, and said they both plan to stand by Palestinians and the Syrian people.

‘‘Our common goal is to support other people who are standing up against their administrations or regimes, to support Palestine and the Syrians in their efforts,’’ Mursi said.

‘‘The events in Syria are the tragedy of the century,’’ Morsi said. ‘‘We will be on the side of the Syrian people until the bloodshed ends, the cruel regime is gone and Syrian people reach their just rights.’’

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After months of this Turkey must have their whole damn army on the border with Syria by now...
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Turkey and Iran on the brink of war

[link to www.publici.com]

The rift between Turkey and Iran widened on Tuesday, August 7th, when the Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces threatened that "Turkey will be next in line for violence after Syria if it continues to work on behalf of Western interests. Ankara is toeing the Western (American) line in the region, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They are therefore accountable for the bloodshed in the Arab Republic [Syria]". . . .

Assad's army has left the Kurdish territories and the Kurds have been given control over most of their cities and over the border with Turkey (this is Turkey's longest border). To the Turks' horror, the Kurdish rebels have begun to hoist the PKK flag (the Kurdish underground in Turkey) in all the Kurdish territories in Syria and are not hiding their wish to found an independent Kurdish State or region, as they have done in Iraq.

Turkey's situation is worsening daily, because the Kurds have been growing stronger within Syria as well as in their ties to the Kurdish enclaves in the neighboring countries. Now Iraq has also warned Turkey not to continue bombing the Kurds in Iraq, and threatened retaliation if Turkey does not comply. The Iraqis are coordinating with Iran and thus narrowing Turkey's room to maneuver.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24674835


That's right - that's why Turkey is on board....

Doorbert, do you ever post puppy dogs & rainbows?
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Turkey and Iran on the brink of war

[link to www.publici.com]

The rift between Turkey and Iran widened on Tuesday, August 7th, when the Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces threatened that "Turkey will be next in line for violence after Syria if it continues to work on behalf of Western interests. Ankara is toeing the Western (American) line in the region, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They are therefore accountable for the bloodshed in the Arab Republic [Syria]". . . .

Assad's army has left the Kurdish territories and the Kurds have been given control over most of their cities and over the border with Turkey (this is Turkey's longest border). To the Turks' horror, the Kurdish rebels have begun to hoist the PKK flag (the Kurdish underground in Turkey) in all the Kurdish territories in Syria and are not hiding their wish to found an independent Kurdish State or region, as they have done in Iraq.

Turkey's situation is worsening daily, because the Kurds have been growing stronger within Syria as well as in their ties to the Kurdish enclaves in the neighboring countries. Now Iraq has also warned Turkey not to continue bombing the Kurds in Iraq, and threatened retaliation if Turkey does not comply. The Iraqis are coordinating with Iran and thus narrowing Turkey's room to maneuver.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24674835

 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Regarding Kurds in Syria, a well connected Greek reporter and analyst in US, tweeted yesterday that the Kurds of Syria made a decision that will be announced officially soon, of forming an autonomous Kurdish state in Syria.
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won´t happen, -5 stars
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Regarding Kurds in Syria, a well connected Greek reporter and analyst in US, tweeted yesterday that the Kurds of Syria made a decision that will be announced officially soon, of forming an autonomous Kurdish state in Syria.

 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


...And, depending on the source, Kurds are between 15 to 25 percent of the population of Turkey. They have a high birth rate... They are "restive"

The British refused to give them a state 100 years ago....

It always comes back to decisions made at the of World War I....
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Turkey and Iran on the brink of war

[link to www.publici.com]

The rift between Turkey and Iran widened on Tuesday, August 7th, when the Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces threatened that "Turkey will be next in line for violence after Syria if it continues to work on behalf of Western interests. Ankara is toeing the Western (American) line in the region, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They are therefore accountable for the bloodshed in the Arab Republic [Syria]". . . .

Assad's army has left the Kurdish territories and the Kurds have been given control over most of their cities and over the border with Turkey (this is Turkey's longest border). To the Turks' horror, the Kurdish rebels have begun to hoist the PKK flag (the Kurdish underground in Turkey) in all the Kurdish territories in Syria and are not hiding their wish to found an independent Kurdish State or region, as they have done in Iraq.

Turkey's situation is worsening daily, because the Kurds have been growing stronger within Syria as well as in their ties to the Kurdish enclaves in the neighboring countries. Now Iraq has also warned Turkey not to continue bombing the Kurds in Iraq, and threatened retaliation if Turkey does not comply. The Iraqis are coordinating with Iran and thus narrowing Turkey's room to maneuver.

Regarding Kurds in Syria, a well connected Greek reporter and analyst in US, tweeted yesterday that the Kurds of Syria made a decision that will be announced officially soon, of forming an autonomous Kurdish state in Syria.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24674835


...And, depending on the source, Kurds are between 15 to 25 percent of the population of Turkey. They have a high birth rate... They are "restive"

The British refused to give them a state 100 years ago....

It always comes back to decisions made at the of World War I....
 Quoting: DarbyDoom



Yeah we know a lot about the Kurds here. But i mentioned this because if the Syrian Kurds do officially announce something like that, i expect an imminent Turkish reaction.
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Yeah we know a lot about the Kurds here. But i mentioned this because if the Syrian Kurds do officially announce something like that, i expect an imminent Turkish reaction.
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I think the Turks announced that such a move would be "unacceptable" -

And a/c above needs to keep an eye on the Kurds....

They may be announcing an autonomous region in Germany soon...
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Yeah we know a lot about the Kurds here. But i mentioned this because if the Syrian Kurds do officially announce something like that, i expect an imminent Turkish reaction.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


I think the Tuks announced that such a move would be "unacceptable" -

And a/c above needs to keep an eye on the Kurds....

They may be announcing an autonomous region in Germany soon...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Yep, they find it unacceptable and thats why they pushing for safe-zones and intervention, time is running out on the matter.
What do you mean in Germany? Haven't heard such a thing. damned

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