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The Progression of Islam - Read and Learn

 
SaveUSa (OP)

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Again, I really don't want to distract from the AC's information originally posted; however, monetary issues are a part of it all I believe, so worthy of discussion...

So, to the trolls....while your goal was to distract from the original premise of the thread, thank you for opening that door.

Regarding "muslims," I also wanted to state for the record that I don't believe that every muslim is behind the tribulations we see today; however, those that are complacent are just as guilty as Germans that sat idly by when Hitler commenced the murder of millions of jews, or the Christian Serbians that sat idly by while their government killed thousands of Albanians. They are also just as guilty as those that condone the murder of their women and children when one of their "supreme leaders" demands that person's death for no more than the love of another human being. That said, we're all guilty to some degree of complacency, but I believe that a day will come (in our lifetimes) when we can no longer be complacent.

In short, there will be a true reckoning in (short) time that will call each of us to join a side, and fight for our very existence (regardless of our race or religious affiliation), and that time will be one of true Good vs. Evil, Freedom vs. Enslavement, Right vs. Wrong - nothing else, nothing more. We all know the difference....which side will you choose?

I personally believe that those who bow to man will perish.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


yah you are the OP and your anonymous coward sock account also say (OP)

nice try shill fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23367695


Ummmm...not exactly sure what that means, but if you read the intro to the original post, I've included the link from where that post came. I wish that I had crafted the original post, but cannot take the credit.

I am who I am....who are you?

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Bumping to ensure a read...Time to be aware folks...
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Personally I find it fascinating that a huge % of people just cannot see what is perfectly self-evident, namely that Islam is a uniquely evil and backward creed - that ought to be banned from any civilised nation.


It will without any question plunge the world into a war of extermination that dwarfs by far anything see hitherto - and this will likely be coming rather soon.
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Personally I find it fascinating that a huge % of people just cannot see what is perfectly self-evident, namely that Islam is a uniquely evil and backward creed - that ought to be banned from any civilised nation.


It will without any question plunge the world into a war of extermination that dwarfs by far anything see hitherto - and this will likely be coming rather soon.
 Quoting: JBG 24619571


They've done it before (more than once), and will do it again...so, I agree to an extent - but what they never anticipated is the human population becoming increasingly less ignorant at an exponential pace. True, there remain ignorant masses everywhere, but not to the extent they must have in place in order to succeed with the whole world domination play.

They are learning this even today, which is why they continually attempt to ban or skew as much information as possible in their respective realms of influence (even here in the US).

So, while I believe there will be a war, I don't believe this ideological "system" will succeed in achieving their goals of world domination. In fact, I believe that it will collapse upon itself, and those instigating its violent rhetoric will pay dearly.

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Oh, and if you appreciate the information presented here, please show a little love (i.e. stars) to offset the trolls that don't want you to read it.
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Again, I really don't want to distract from the AC's information originally posted; however, monetary issues are a part of it all I believe, so worthy of discussion...

So, to the trolls....while your goal was to distract from the original premise of the thread, thank you for opening that door.

Regarding "muslims," I also wanted to state for the record that I don't believe that every muslim is behind the tribulations we see today; however, those that are complacent are just as guilty as Germans that sat idly by when Hitler commenced the murder of millions of jews, or the Christian Serbians that sat idly by while their government killed thousands of Albanians. They are also just as guilty as those that condone the murder of their women and children when one of their "supreme leaders" demands that person's death for no more than the love of another human being. That said, we're all guilty to some degree of complacency, but I believe that a day will come (in our lifetimes) when we can no longer be complacent.

In short, there will be a true reckoning in (short) time that will call each of us to join a side, and fight for our very existence (regardless of our race or religious affiliation), and that time will be one of true Good vs. Evil, Freedom vs. Enslavement, Right vs. Wrong - nothing else, nothing more. We all know the difference....which side will you choose?

I personally believe that those who bow to man will perish.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


yah you are the OP and your anonymous coward sock account also say (OP)

nice try shill fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23367695


Ummmm...not exactly sure what that means, but if you read the intro to the original post, I've included the link from where that post came. I wish that I had crafted the original post, but cannot take the credit.

I am who I am....who are you?
 Quoting: SaveUSa


there's a post made in the thread made by an anonymous coward and it has (OP) beside it.

At some point in the discussion you logged out of your username and tried to pose as an AC

chuckle
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Ok...I will play for a time until a few more intelligent folks join in. I'm honored to see that I have two trolls immediately jumping on the thread though.

I'm quite aware of the US Debt clock, and the idiotic policies of this current administration and the fed. I am also aware of our debt, and the fact that they are monetizing that debt because China (and others) have discontinued the purchase of US Treasuries. This fact, combined with the (agenda-driven) run away spending of this current administration has pushed our "policy-makers" to begin purchasing our own treasury debt in an effort to continue to fund this idiocy (including Obammycare), as well as portray a false sense that our system is still sound via reduced interest rates. This will, of course, create yet another monetary bubble that will implode in very short order, and one that will likely translate into a worldwide recession unlike any we've ever experienced in the history of humanity.

The question, of course, is who is driving these policies? It's certainly not your corner-banker that serves the needs of the public by administering those dollars according to the policies they must adhere to (handed down by the Fed and Congress). Nor is it capitalism, or even the "greedy" investment banks like Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley. Sure, they may have some influence on policy makers, but the neutering of capitalism does not serve their ends...

So, I will now put the question back to you - WHO precisely is driving this increasing trend of self-deprecation...The dismantling of a once dominant society of freedom, innovation and wealth via unsound money practices, and the eventual (but much more pronounced as of late) subversion of the very foundation of everything that once made us great?

I think I read somewhere recently that the Muslim Brotherhood was advising the Obama administration on foreign policy....Gee, I wonder if they might be advising them on other fronts as well....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20038946


THIS IS YOUR ANONYMOUS COWARD POST

you logged out of your username and proceeeded to talk in 3rd person. The (OP) beside your name indicated you are the starter of this thread.
SaveUSa (OP)

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Again, I really don't want to distract from the AC's information originally posted; however, monetary issues are a part of it all I believe, so worthy of discussion...

So, to the trolls....while your goal was to distract from the original premise of the thread, thank you for opening that door.

Regarding "muslims," I also wanted to state for the record that I don't believe that every muslim is behind the tribulations we see today; however, those that are complacent are just as guilty as Germans that sat idly by when Hitler commenced the murder of millions of jews, or the Christian Serbians that sat idly by while their government killed thousands of Albanians. They are also just as guilty as those that condone the murder of their women and children when one of their "supreme leaders" demands that person's death for no more than the love of another human being. That said, we're all guilty to some degree of complacency, but I believe that a day will come (in our lifetimes) when we can no longer be complacent.

In short, there will be a true reckoning in (short) time that will call each of us to join a side, and fight for our very existence (regardless of our race or religious affiliation), and that time will be one of true Good vs. Evil, Freedom vs. Enslavement, Right vs. Wrong - nothing else, nothing more. We all know the difference....which side will you choose?

I personally believe that those who bow to man will perish.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


yah you are the OP and your anonymous coward sock account also say (OP)

nice try shill fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23367695


Ummmm...not exactly sure what that means, but if you read the intro to the original post, I've included the link from where that post came. I wish that I had crafted the original post, but cannot take the credit.

I am who I am....who are you?
 Quoting: SaveUSa


there's a post made in the thread made by an anonymous coward and it has (OP) beside it.

At some point in the discussion you logged out of your username and tried to pose as an AC

chuckle
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Actually, within this thread, I changed computers - which translated into one of my replies posting as AC. That said, I'm not quite sure how that's "shillery" when the OP moniker clearly showed that it was me.

You're a bit off, aren't you...
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SaveUSa (OP)

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Ok...I will play for a time until a few more intelligent folks join in. I'm honored to see that I have two trolls immediately jumping on the thread though.

I'm quite aware of the US Debt clock, and the idiotic policies of this current administration and the fed. I am also aware of our debt, and the fact that they are monetizing that debt because China (and others) have discontinued the purchase of US Treasuries. This fact, combined with the (agenda-driven) run away spending of this current administration has pushed our "policy-makers" to begin purchasing our own treasury debt in an effort to continue to fund this idiocy (including Obammycare), as well as portray a false sense that our system is still sound via reduced interest rates. This will, of course, create yet another monetary bubble that will implode in very short order, and one that will likely translate into a worldwide recession unlike any we've ever experienced in the history of humanity.

The question, of course, is who is driving these policies? It's certainly not your corner-banker that serves the needs of the public by administering those dollars according to the policies they must adhere to (handed down by the Fed and Congress). Nor is it capitalism, or even the "greedy" investment banks like Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley. Sure, they may have some influence on policy makers, but the neutering of capitalism does not serve their ends...

So, I will now put the question back to you - WHO precisely is driving this increasing trend of self-deprecation...The dismantling of a once dominant society of freedom, innovation and wealth via unsound money practices, and the eventual (but much more pronounced as of late) subversion of the very foundation of everything that once made us great?

I think I read somewhere recently that the Muslim Brotherhood was advising the Obama administration on foreign policy....Gee, I wonder if they might be advising them on other fronts as well....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20038946


THIS IS YOUR ANONYMOUS COWARD POST

you logged out of your username and proceeeded to talk in 3rd person. The (OP) beside your name indicated you are the starter of this thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23367695


Thanks for your keen sense of discernment. Of course that was my post, but how is it you think I'm trying to mislead?

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This post was contributed by an AC on the Dearborn Stoning of Christian thread ( Thread: American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI and was so informative and thought provoking, I thought it deserved its own thread - so I've taken the liberty of doing so.

Thanks to the AC that posted this....



Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


that same list could be applied to Jewish & Christian people as well. Just change all the muslim words to Jewish. or Christians.

Religious people herd like packs of animals and try to infiltrate as much power as they can to skew favor.

your propaganda agenda against Muslims has failed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23367695


No it can't BUT it can be used with atheism which is basically a godless version of islam.
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bump

To continue pissing on the folks that don't want you to read it.
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Because I'm bored.
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Still waiting for my trolls to enlighten me.

Come on guys. Give me something I can chew on, instead of you.
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Well at least I can take comfort in knowing that I ran the trolls off to their respective rocks.

Thanks for the posts.
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Look for the origins of (?) Wahhabi-ism and the distortion of the Muslims same stuff that has happened to the faith of the Christians.
... deception on a GRAND SCALE to make people apathetic, there was quote I enjoy the quote was about it was not the enemy at the gate but the one who looks like you acts like you and corrupts the country or people from the inside.
Could some repost that quote as it is a wonder and damnable evidence is mounting they are in the gates of most country's of the world.
Graceless and Skeptical as hell!!!
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" Belief is just a word for something one refuses to study the origins of, or reason out!!!
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Look for the origins of (?) Wahhabi-ism and the distortion of the Muslims same stuff that has happened to the faith of the Christians.
... deception on a GRAND SCALE to make people apathetic, there was quote I enjoy the quote was about it was not the enemy at the gate but the one who looks like you acts like you and corrupts the country or people from the inside.
Could some repost that quote as it is a wonder and damnable evidence is mounting they are in the gates of most country's of the world.
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Agreed, but they may not be happy with what they find when those gates open fully.
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More info about the stats, it was originally a copy paste from here

[link to theroadtoemmaus.org]
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This post was contributed by an AC on the Dearborn Stoning of Christian thread ( Thread: American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI and was so informative and thought provoking, I thought it deserved its own thread - so I've taken the liberty of doing so.

Thanks to the AC that posted this....



Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


that same list could be applied to Jewish & Christian people as well. Just change all the muslim words to Jewish. or Christians.

Religious people herd like packs of animals and try to infiltrate as much power as they can to skew favor.

your propaganda agenda against Muslims has failed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23367695


No it can't BUT it can be used with atheism which is basically a godless version of islam.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-



Atheism has nothing in common with Islam.
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It is a system of the anti christ

the devil's system
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More info about the stats, it was originally a copy paste from here

[link to theroadtoemmaus.org]
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Thanks for the link...thought this may have come from something more than the AC, but didn't have time to search.
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