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California bans gay "conversion" therapy for minors

 
beeches

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09/30/2012 08:31 PM

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there is nothing good or natural about men lying with men,nothing at all.

There is no way the anus was intended to be better than the vagina.

People are born with all kinds of defects - some physical,and some spiritual.

Why should we encourage a degrading lifestyle?

Last Edited by beeches on 09/30/2012 08:31 PM
Now is the time.
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09/30/2012 08:35 PM
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Faggots need all the help they can get
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09/30/2012 08:40 PM
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Good, conversion "therapy" only makes the kids all guilty/ashamed of who they are, then they get all sexually repressed and inevitably turn into creepy pervs that live a double life and give blow jobs to random dudes in bathroom stalls like half of the republican party. you know the type.
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Good, conversion "therapy" only makes the kids all guilty/ashamed of who they are, then they get all sexually repressed and inevitably turn into creepy pervs that live a double life and give blow jobs to random dudes in bathroom stalls like half of the republican party. you know the type.
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any excuse will do, it seems
Now is the time.
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Re: California bans gay "conversion" therapy for minors
there is nothing good or natural about men lying with men,nothing at all.

There is no way the anus was intended to be better than the vagina.

People are born with all kinds of defects - some physical,and some spiritual.

Why should we encourage a degrading lifestyle?
 Quoting: beeches


Good, conversion "therapy" only makes the kids all guilty/ashamed of who they are, then they get all sexually repressed and inevitably turn into creepy pervs that live a double life and give blow jobs to random dudes in bathroom stalls like half of the republican party. you know the type.
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any excuse will do, it seems
 Quoting: beeches


stop trying to control people's sexuality you crazy egomaniac

As long as someone's sexuality hurts other people, like pedophilia or something, then there's no problem. If two consenting adults want to have sex and express their love in the way they want, there's nothing wrong with that.

Why is it that you anti-gay people are the most obsessed with sex and other people's personal lives.

what about LIBERTY for ALL don't you understand, you don't have to smear your personal agenda over other people's lives.

In regards to your first comment, humans don't have wings, naturally we shouldn't be able to fly, yet we've invented airplanes and fly - nature has nothing to do with it. If two people who love each other want to have anal sex, who gives a fuck.

"People are born with all kinds of defects - some physical,and some spiritual."

Who are you to say what a defect is? Bigotry seems to be a spiritual defect that you suffer from.
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Re: California bans gay "conversion" therapy for minors
there is nothing good or natural about men lying with men,nothing at all.

There is no way the anus was intended to be better than the vagina.

People are born with all kinds of defects - some physical,and some spiritual.

Why should we encourage a degrading lifestyle?
 Quoting: beeches


Seeing you seem to be an expert on this subject have you tried both? I mean how can you say what you are saying if you didn't go for a test drive?

Have you ever studied the male G spot and where it is alleged to be?

So homosexuality is a defect? Well I could say your logic is a defect... should we give you logic conversion therapy to make you more intelligent? Oh I already am...

lolsign

What right do you have to call it a degrading lifestyle? Are you judging? Are you a Christian?

Judging others is a no no apparently!

Based on your logic I could argue that "lack of intelligence" is a degrading lifestyle and I am encouraging you not to live it...

Whose encouraging it? What the intelligent amongst us are saying is - that conversion therapy is causing harm to these children and is therefore wrong.

Do you agree with causing psychological harm in children?

Wakey! Wakey!
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09/30/2012 10:05 PM
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well if you actually have our founding fathers intentions in mind, we would not have a muslim president, we would not have homosexuals running around the streets in pink thongs with their cockles hanging out in some pride parade, in fact its all of these impurities that you left wing liberals are tainting our country with that is causing us to go into a tailspin! SIN KILLS!! NO MATTER HOW SMALL!!
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09/30/2012 10:08 PM

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The law would apply only to licensed psychologists and professional therapists, not counseling offered by religious groups. [link to www.scpr.org]
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Which is reasonable, because none of the current " medical treatments" (hormones, electroshock etc.) work and are a complete waste of money. Which makes anyone administering them a quack.

Offering a "treatment" you know is ineffective is unethical.

Prayer is at least safe and won't make you grow hair in weird places, or get cancer.

Many equally unethical PTSD treatments are still offered, and are quite damaging. Guess the Gay lobby is more effective than the Veterans lobby?

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Devilmay
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09/30/2012 11:26 PM
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God you guys are seriously whacked out right wing nutters trying to confuse a very straight forward issue - that LICENSED psychologists have no business trying to "convert" gay or bisexual people underage. I've heard stories of people who were forced into such "sessions" by their cruel, undeserving-of-offspring "parents" and have gone through hell. If you want to spend your own time convincing the child you're supposed to love unconditionally that he or she needs to change or be disowned/burn in hell, then that's you're business (sadly) - but NO real psychologist should be brought in to assist your immoral, insane, insidious persuit. It is the government and the state's job to regulate these people, as they regulate many other industries from quackery and psudeoscience - I.e. medicine. Especially when the mental or physical health of people is being compromised. Conversion therapy is inhunane, ineffective and wholly rejected by every major organisation representing the field of psychology given the substantial evidence pointing to its ineffectualness and harmful nature.

Get a grip. The state has a duty to protect minors.
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09/30/2012 11:34 PM
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Just wait they will legalize pedofilia after a while.
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I have been predicting this exact situation for about 5 years. The day is coming when our children will be deemed "free game" to pedo's. When that happens...MANY fathers will go to jail for murdering those who hurt their babies.
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


you're a FUCKING DUMBASS, it is impossible to pass a law that gives any adult sexual access to a MINOR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16069571


Really? You think so? Try case law in sharia. Try case law in allowing 18-20 year old to marry 15 year olds with parental consent. What about certain states in the U.S. that allow emancipation at 16 yrs? What about nude photos of pre-teen girls as "art", currently allowed in the UNITED STATES!!!! That is NOT considered child porn either! Think again foolish AC...you're so far off the mark that you stink of idiocy. All that has to happen is a court to allow a pedo to have had access with one minor one time without punishment...and suddenly case law will allow it to happen from then on out. So you see...it doesn't take written law to establish the permissiveness. If you were educated to a point of common sense, you would already know that.
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well if you actually have our founding fathers intentions in mind, we would not have a muslim president, we would not have homosexuals running around the streets in pink thongs with their cockles hanging out in some pride parade, in fact its all of these impurities that you left wing liberals are tainting our country with that is causing us to go into a tailspin! SIN KILLS!! NO MATTER HOW SMALL!!
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Muslim president?!? Wow...

I thought only the looney left-wingers were the conspiracy theorising weirdos but now I'm seeing how it's a phenomenon that spans the political spectrum.
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God you guys are seriously whacked out right wing nutters trying to confuse a very straight forward issue - that LICENSED psychologists have no business trying to "convert" gay or bisexual people underage. I've heard stories of people who were forced into such "sessions" by their cruel, undeserving-of-offspring "parents" and have gone through hell. If you want to spend your own time convincing the child you're supposed to love unconditionally that he or she needs to change or be disowned/burn in hell, then that's you're business (sadly) - but NO real psychologist should be brought in to assist your immoral, insane, insidious persuit. It is the government and the state's job to regulate these people, as they regulate many other industries from quackery and psudeoscience - I.e. medicine. Especially when the mental or physical health of people is being compromised. Conversion therapy is inhunane, ineffective and wholly rejected by every major organisation representing the field of psychology given the substantial evidence pointing to its ineffectualness and harmful nature.

Get a grip. The state has a duty to protect minors.
 Quoting: Devilmay 22040735


NO. You're wrong. PARENTS have a duty to protect their children. Now...if the parents are dead or unfit, then it is the state's job to protect wards of the state. HOWEVER...make a rule towards them only...not towards every child in the state. Your opinion sounds VERY communistic and socialistic. I will raise my family the way I see fit and no government agency will tell me otherwise.
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09/30/2012 11:50 PM
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God you guys are seriously whacked out right wing nutters trying to confuse a very straight forward issue - that LICENSED psychologists have no business trying to "convert" gay or bisexual people underage. I've heard stories of people who were forced into such "sessions" by their cruel, undeserving-of-offspring "parents" and have gone through hell. If you want to spend your own time convincing the child you're supposed to love unconditionally that he or she needs to change or be disowned/burn in hell, then that's you're business (sadly) - but NO real psychologist should be brought in to assist your immoral, insane, insidious persuit. It is the government and the state's job to regulate these people, as they regulate many other industries from quackery and psudeoscience - I.e. medicine. Especially when the mental or physical health of people is being compromised. Conversion therapy is inhunane, ineffective and wholly rejected by every major organisation representing the field of psychology given the substantial evidence pointing to its ineffectualness and harmful nature.

Get a grip. The state has a duty to protect minors.
 Quoting: Devilmay 22040735


NO. You're wrong. PARENTS have a duty to protect their children. Now...if the parents are dead or unfit, then it is the state's job to protect wards of the state. HOWEVER...make a rule towards them only...not towards every child in the state. Your opinion sounds VERY communistic and socialistic. I will raise my family the way I see fit and no government agency will tell me otherwise.
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Here they go again!... True to form as yet another obvious, typical right-wing reactionary nutjob. And that's not character assasination by any means - unlike your ridiculous knee-jerk labelling me as "socialistic/communistic" - another laughable demonising tactic of the Fox News-inspired far Right. You guys are becoming so predictable it's unreal.

As for your strawman argument - I never said you didn't have the right to raise your kids as you see fit. That's not even what the law is about - it's about regulating a professional industry. If you wish to try and "convert" your gay son or daughter then go ahead - sad as that would be. But no licensed "professionals" please. The state has a job to both regulate the medical industry and protect the mental and psychical health of minors. Such "therapy" is demonstratably harmful.
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Talking about orifices, anal sex is just a backdoor sneaky way for insecure men pricks to appease their ego cause they know the vagina owns them lol!
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Let's give California to China and Iran. They fucking love commies and muzzies, so they ought to get along fine.

But mine the border. Nobody comes out.
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10/01/2012 12:12 AM
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So it's ok to convert the straights with their gay agenda but now it's not ok to convert gays. You wait they'll probably try and ban hetersexuals from using the word straight cause it makes one person from the LGBT community feel inferior.
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No one said ANYTHING about converting straights to gay...the homosexual movement is NOT about that much as you may think it is, it's about giving them the right to be who they are as much as you can be who you are. That's all.
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Stupid therapy is not even needed anyway! These so-called gays are screwing their own selves enough with their own inner conflict. It's funny enough that many have these "heterosexual" slip ups from time to time. The same way they try to indoctrinate heteros with gay fantasies is the same way some supposedly gays will dabble with the opposite sex when taken aback by someone "special".

It's all mental in those pushing the agenda know it!
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Devilmay

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Faggots need all the help they can get
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Yep, to be protected from bigots like you. Proudly pro-"faggot" here ;)
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Let's give California to China and Iran. They fucking love commies and muzzies, so they ought to get along fine.

But mine the border. Nobody comes out.
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And you are representitive of what percentage of the population? Do you really know what Communism is?

If you were born in Afghanistan would you have been a member of the Taliban?

How can you think what you posted as a reasonable thought?

Wake UP!