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How to make a serial killer cry....

 
Too Dark Park

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Beautiful

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Uh, hardly...
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".....and forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us."

Very difficult to walk the talk in such times.
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He's a psychopath, they can shed tears on cue.

But that said, the people who learn to forgive and move on with their lives will be happier than those who hold tight to their hate. This is something that we all need to work on, especially me.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


:jay:

and we see it constantly in today's msm and pretty much anywhere psychopaths can be found
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He's a psychopath, they can shed tears on cue.

But that said, the people who learn to forgive and move on with their lives will be happier than those who hold tight to their hate. This is something that we all need to work on, especially me.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


I agree but I actually believe him to be sincere in this. I just finished watching one on Ted Bundy and I didn't believe his sincerity for a second, he cried crocodile tears in it.
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God is Love. Even a sociopathic serial killer can feel God. Nobody needs proof.
hf
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This is amazing.

This shows the power and love of God reaching even the lowest of humanity.

Remember when the Pope forgave the man who tried to assasinate him? (The last pope)
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No testimony meant more than the other.

They all were right in their emotion, but santa claus really wished to use all the wisdom he gained over his life time.

would I forgive that man? No, simply I would not and feel every spiritual right not to.

If the victim were my family member, and did. That's okay, but I personally could not forgive that act and see no reason why it is better to do so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24749639


He's a psychopath, they can shed tears on cue.

But that said, the people who learn to forgive and move on with their lives will be happier than those who hold tight to their hate. This is something that we all need to work on, especially me.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Don't hold tight to your hate!
It is not healthy.
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Lessons for us all. I don't know if I could be so forgiving.
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I watched this a while ago on youtube
It struck me then , very much how his face remained hard and solid and never changed even a muscle when he was hearing the angry family members and friends.
It was only this guy that didn't speak hateful towards him that made him cry.

That aside, what he did was horrible
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


Yes

obviously has a thing about women

most of the speakers were women
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Its a shame what he did yet i'd still believe that those are crocodile tears. When you can murder 49 people, its hard to find forgiveness with any human, especially any woman in this case.
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I heard these work too:


Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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No testimony meant more than the other.

They all were right in their emotion, but santa claus really wished to use all the wisdom he gained over his life time.

would I forgive that man? No, simply I would not and feel every spiritual right not to.

If the victim were my family member, and did. That's okay, but I personally could not forgive that act and see no reason why it is better to do so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24749639



So what? the guy cries for a minute or two..is that considered remorse or just upset he got caught and then someone was half ass nice to him. That person can forgive him all they want, but last I checked they are not God..and well I dont think that a few tears can bring back all these people who did nothing to deserve to be killed by this sick pervert man.
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This is amazing.

This shows the power and love of God reaching even the lowest of humanity.

Remember when the Pope forgave the man who tried to assasinate him? (The last pope)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23602194


Well would you leave your women friends and family with him alone for any amount of time? Probably not..so is that really forgiven? Just asking.
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he was only crying for himself
because he got caught



he has no feelings for anyone but
himself. He even took his young son
with him when he was killing these women
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The entity/ies that inhabits the mortal shell of serial killers etc. can leave. The mortal shell remembers the deeds and can react to the pain felt.

Too bad the entity/ies feed on that pain and come right back to the mortal shell to feed on that pain/emotion and the cycle starts all over.

Only death of the mortal shell will free him from it. The entities that feed on pain and suffering are then feeding on those who are suffering for what happened to the victims families and friends.

The one who will not be a good, lasting meal for the entities are the ones who forgive and forget (as much as possible) and do not keep the feeding cycle going. Like a hungry animal, when not fed new pain, will seek it elsewhere.
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I watched this a while ago on youtube
It struck me then , very much how his face remained hard and solid and never changed even a muscle when he was hearing the angry family members and friends.
It was only this guy that didn't speak hateful towards him that made him cry.

That aside, what he did was horrible
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


Chris Carrier was my teacher my Senior year and his story touched me deeply. I try to remember him when I begin to 'hate' someone.

[link to www.baptiststandard.com]

- A guy who worked for his father kidnapped him as a child and tried to kill him with an ice pick. Long story short, many years later, as the guy was dying, Mr. Carrier found him and forgave him.
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That must have been very hard for that father to forgive his daughter's killer. I wonder how long it took him to get to that point - probably many, many years.

It is hard for me to think that the father felt like that soon after the murder. He's probably been through hell and back to get to that point. I just can't imagine otherwise. I don't think I will or could ever get there.
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To give some perspective...


1 Wendy Lee Coffield 16 July 8, 1982 July 15, 1982
2 Gisele Ann Lovvorn 17 July 17, 1982 September 25, 1982
3 Debra Lynn Bonner 23 July 25, 1982 August 12, 1982
4 Marcia Fay Chapman 31 August 1, 1982 August 15, 1982
5 Cynthia Jean Hinds 17 August 11, 1982 August 15, 1982
6 Opal Charmaine Mills 16 August 12, 1982 August 15, 1982
7 Terry Rene Milligan 16 August 29, 1982 April 1, 1984
8 Mary Bridget Meehan 18 September 15, 1982 November 13, 1983
9 Debra Lorraine Estes 15 September 20, 1982 May 30, 1988
10 Linda Jane Rule 16 September 26, 1982 January 31, 1983
11 Denise Darcel Bush 23 October 8, 1982 June 12, 1985
12 Shawnda Leea Summers 16 October 9, 1982 August 11, 1983
13 Shirley Marie Sherrill 18 October 20–22, 1982 June 1985
14 Rebecca "Becky" Marrero 20 December 3, 1982 December 21, 2010
15 Colleen Renee Brockman 15 December 24, 1982 May 26, 1984
16 Alma Ann Smith 18 March 3, 1983 April 2, 1984
17 Delores LaVerne Williams 17 March 8–14, 1983 March 31, 1984
18 Gail Lynn Mathews 23 April 10, 1983 September 18, 1983
19 Andrea M. Childers 19 April 14, 1983 October 11, 1989
20 Sandra Kay Gabbert 17 April 17, 1983 April 1, 1984
21 Kimi-Kai Pitsor 16 April 17, 1983 December 15, 1983
22 Marie M. Malvar 18 April 30, 1983 September 26, 2003
23 Carol Ann Christensen 21 May 3, 1983 May 8, 1983
24 Martina Theresa Authorlee 18 May 22, 1983 November 14, 1984
25 Cheryl Lee Wims 18 May 23, 1983 March 22, 1984
26 Yvonne "Shelly" Antosh 19 May 31, 1983 October 15, 1983
27 Carrie Ann Rois 15 May 31 – June 13, 1983 March 10, 1985
28 Constance Elizabeth Naon 19 June 8, 1983 October 27, 1983
29 Kelly Marie Ware 22 July 18, 1983 October 29, 1983
30 Tina Marie Thompson 21 July 25, 1983 April 20, 1984
31 April Dawn Buttram 16 August 18, 1983 August 30, 2003
32 Debbie May Abernathy 26 September 5, 1983 March 31, 1984
33 Tracy Ann Winston 19 September 12, 1983 March 27, 1986
34 Maureen Sue Feeney 19 September 28, 1983 May 2, 1986
35 Mary Sue Bello 25 October 11, 1983 October 12, 1984
36 Pammy Annette Avent 15 October 26, 1983 August 16, 2003
37 Delise Louise Plager 22 October 30, 1983 February 14, 1984
38 Kimberly L. Nelson 21 November 1, 1983 June 14, 1986
39 Lisa Yates 19 December 23, 1983 March 13, 1984
40 Mary Exzetta West 16 February 6, 1984 September 8, 1985
41 Cindy Anne Smith 17 March 21, 1984 June 27, 1987
42 Patricia Michelle Barczak 19 October 17, 1986 February 1993
43 Roberta Joseph Hayes 21 Last seen leaving a Portland, Oregon jail on February 7, 1987 September 11, 1991
44 Marta Reeves 36 March 5, 1990 September 20, 1990
45 Patricia Yellowrobe 38 January 1998 August 6, 1998
46 Unidentified White Female 12–17 Died prior to May 1983 March 21, 1984
47 Sandra Denise Major 20 December 24, 1982 December 30, 1985
48 Unidentified White Female 14–18 December 1980 – January 1984 January 2, 1986
49 Unidentified Female 13–24 1973–1993 August 2003
That's a lot of people :(
and just half of what he claimed to have killed
 Quoting: Philligan


And you want to forgive this person?

Get rid of him and not with an injection. Let it be cruel and unusual.
I'm sure many those helpless women begged for their lives.
People like this don't deserve mercy.
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To give some perspective...


1 Wendy Lee Coffield 16 July 8, 1982 July 15, 1982
2 Gisele Ann Lovvorn 17 July 17, 1982 September 25, 1982
3 Debra Lynn Bonner 23 July 25, 1982 August 12, 1982
4 Marcia Fay Chapman 31 August 1, 1982 August 15, 1982
5 Cynthia Jean Hinds 17 August 11, 1982 August 15, 1982
6 Opal Charmaine Mills 16 August 12, 1982 August 15, 1982
7 Terry Rene Milligan 16 August 29, 1982 April 1, 1984
8 Mary Bridget Meehan 18 September 15, 1982 November 13, 1983
9 Debra Lorraine Estes 15 September 20, 1982 May 30, 1988
10 Linda Jane Rule 16 September 26, 1982 January 31, 1983
11 Denise Darcel Bush 23 October 8, 1982 June 12, 1985
12 Shawnda Leea Summers 16 October 9, 1982 August 11, 1983
13 Shirley Marie Sherrill 18 October 20–22, 1982 June 1985
14 Rebecca "Becky" Marrero 20 December 3, 1982 December 21, 2010
15 Colleen Renee Brockman 15 December 24, 1982 May 26, 1984
16 Alma Ann Smith 18 March 3, 1983 April 2, 1984
17 Delores LaVerne Williams 17 March 8–14, 1983 March 31, 1984
18 Gail Lynn Mathews 23 April 10, 1983 September 18, 1983
19 Andrea M. Childers 19 April 14, 1983 October 11, 1989
20 Sandra Kay Gabbert 17 April 17, 1983 April 1, 1984
21 Kimi-Kai Pitsor 16 April 17, 1983 December 15, 1983
22 Marie M. Malvar 18 April 30, 1983 September 26, 2003
23 Carol Ann Christensen 21 May 3, 1983 May 8, 1983
24 Martina Theresa Authorlee 18 May 22, 1983 November 14, 1984
25 Cheryl Lee Wims 18 May 23, 1983 March 22, 1984
26 Yvonne "Shelly" Antosh 19 May 31, 1983 October 15, 1983
27 Carrie Ann Rois 15 May 31 – June 13, 1983 March 10, 1985
28 Constance Elizabeth Naon 19 June 8, 1983 October 27, 1983
29 Kelly Marie Ware 22 July 18, 1983 October 29, 1983
30 Tina Marie Thompson 21 July 25, 1983 April 20, 1984
31 April Dawn Buttram 16 August 18, 1983 August 30, 2003
32 Debbie May Abernathy 26 September 5, 1983 March 31, 1984
33 Tracy Ann Winston 19 September 12, 1983 March 27, 1986
34 Maureen Sue Feeney 19 September 28, 1983 May 2, 1986
35 Mary Sue Bello 25 October 11, 1983 October 12, 1984
36 Pammy Annette Avent 15 October 26, 1983 August 16, 2003
37 Delise Louise Plager 22 October 30, 1983 February 14, 1984
38 Kimberly L. Nelson 21 November 1, 1983 June 14, 1986
39 Lisa Yates 19 December 23, 1983 March 13, 1984
40 Mary Exzetta West 16 February 6, 1984 September 8, 1985
41 Cindy Anne Smith 17 March 21, 1984 June 27, 1987
42 Patricia Michelle Barczak 19 October 17, 1986 February 1993
43 Roberta Joseph Hayes 21 Last seen leaving a Portland, Oregon jail on February 7, 1987 September 11, 1991
44 Marta Reeves 36 March 5, 1990 September 20, 1990
45 Patricia Yellowrobe 38 January 1998 August 6, 1998
46 Unidentified White Female 12–17 Died prior to May 1983 March 21, 1984
47 Sandra Denise Major 20 December 24, 1982 December 30, 1985
48 Unidentified White Female 14–18 December 1980 – January 1984 January 2, 1986
49 Unidentified Female 13–24 1973–1993 August 2003
That's a lot of people :(
and just half of what he claimed to have killed
 Quoting: Philligan


I am not in an emotional state to watch that video-studying for my last of three exams in a four day period, and very sleep deprived-so are those dates when he kidnapped them, and then killed them?

Truly, sex offenders and serial killers are the real terrorists in this country, and we spend the bare minimum to track these people down.
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I was moved by this. Not because the serial killer broke down. I don't care if they are crocodile tears or not. But I was moved by the strength of the man who was able to forgive and not spend the rest of his days living with hatred. I can't stand when people make me feel hatred inside of me. I hate them for making me FEEL angry, not even necessarily for what they have done, if that makes sense. That this man was able to break free of the chains that the murderer put on him... that is why I gave 5*. I don't know if I could be that man. I'd probably be one of those calling him vile names. But I strive to be the man who forgives. What a different world we'd live in if more people could forgive.
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His reaction is no more than that of an actor. Psychopaths are only able to MIMIC Human emotions not experience them.
Three bearded beings, the "Star-gods," each holding a star in his right hand, which is stretched aloft, and with his left towing a small boat containing the "Face of the Disk." ~Book of the Gates.
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I was moved by this. Not because the serial killer broke down. I don't care if they are crocodile tears or not. But I was moved by the strength of the man who was able to forgive and not spend the rest of his days living with hatred. I can't stand when people make me feel hatred inside of me. I hate them for making me FEEL angry, not even necessarily for what they have done, if that makes sense. That this man was able to break free of the chains that the murderer put on him... that is why I gave 5*. I don't know if I could be that man. I'd probably be one of those calling him vile names. But I strive to be the man who forgives. What a different world we'd live in if more people could forgive.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


^ THIS. To me, the video is less about the crocodile tears and more about the strength of this man to stand up and FORGIVE a man who killed his daughter among with dozens of other women.
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Great Post, REALLY!
There are some things that people do to others that I just don't have it in me to forgive. When my sister was 10 years old, her best friend was kidnapped, raped and murdered by a serial child killer. The impact her death had on her family and on ours has never healed, even 30 years later. People like that don't deserve to live. Jesus has the ability to forgive people like that, and there are those who also have that ability, but I'm not one of them.
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What you will rarely see are their victims crying. It's always too graphic, even for jury members. Their actions, like ours, are the essence of who they are (their complete inner workings) the rest is showmanship.
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That really is an excellent point
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


Especially since we are talking about victims of a serial killer.

They are dead.
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Could or could not be fake tears. If they aren't it's probably because he for the first time has in essence been forgiven for who he is. Goes back to his mom and bad parenting (apparently) she always probably mocked him and abused him physically, emotionally, and mentally "why cant you be like this", "why are you so stupid" ect ect. Not sympathizing nor making excuses for the man. Merely just putting in my two cents.
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Anyone who is on trial for a crime that hurt another human is told by their attorney to show no emotion. NONE. It is supposed to show your guilt (?) and make the judge and jury go harder on you. I don't understand that way of thinking - I'd feel the oposite if I saw someone genuinely and obviously in pain for what they'd done.
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a serial killer doesn't deserve to be forgiven.
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Neither do any of us.
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This is amazing.

This shows the power and love of God reaching even the lowest of humanity.

Remember when the Pope forgave the man who tried to assasinate him? (The last pope)
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Well would you leave your women friends and family with him alone for any amount of time? Probably not..so is that really forgiven? Just asking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24726553


You seem to mix up forgiveness and trust. Can I forgive someone who screws me over? Maybe. Will I trust him again? Not a chance.

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