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| Tired of Selfish People User ID: 19910005 10/01/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control. Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900 you're really making a difference when you regurgitate a post that's posted hundreds of times a day on this site Don't read it then. just pointing out the fact that your "i'm not afraid to say it" line is kind of funny because there is no reason to be scared to say it. you'll keep paying taxes anyway |
| *Heisenberg* PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 21948600 10/01/2012 11:34 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree to an extent. Taxes suck, I feel the same sometimes. I wish taxes were low for everyone. I think the government should be shrunk and taxes lowered for all. Maybe some sort of fair tax. But, with that said. The reason I think Romney blew it with those remarks, is because many people don't pay income tax because of Republican tax cuts. You can't give people huge tax cuts to the point they pay no income tax, then turn around and bitch about it. I guess the only real solution is a fair tax. Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control. Quoting: Tired of Selfish People 19910005 Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others. thank you, someone with some common sense |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24418900 10/01/2012 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900 you must be doing your taxes wrong if you pay 50% I did state and other deductions. what kinds of deductions? wouldn't a deduction mean you pay less taxes on those deductions? Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1637551 10/01/2012 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in two of America's wars. my ass go relocated by an exploding round. I receive tax free VA Disability as my income. that makes me the 47%.... Quoting: leyba am I wrong for receiving this Federal income? I'm still undecided It's not like your not paying the other 200-300 bs taxes we're forced to pay....nobody gets out tax-free. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control. Quoting: Tired of Selfish People 19910005 Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others. I'm all for raising taxes if we cut off social welfare programs as well I say we start taxing that 47% that don't work / pay any taxes no work = no food how do you tax someone with no money? i agree govt should cut way back on food stamps and the like. medicare and medicaid are needed, but they need to clean up all the fraud |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what kinds of deductions? wouldn't a deduction mean you pay less taxes on those deductions? Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24418900 10/01/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control. Quoting: Tired of Selfish People 19910005 Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others. That's awesome and you know what you can easily give back through charity and other third party outlets but, paying to keep people on the dole is not patriotic its debilitating. There use to be a time when the people of this country were to proud to take handouts and when the community and neighbors rallied together to help one another. Less government intrusion more freedom. |
| popularopinion thank you brothers and sisters User ID: 20916411 10/01/2012 11:40 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think technically am in the 47%. Last year i recieved a refund on my 1099. I did not directly pay taxes and recieved a refund. I work for a small family business (bail bonding).I do not want a free pass on taxes, I want for my struggling company to make more money so that i can be paid more. Our clients struggle to pay their fees and many times don't. The reason I don't pay in on my taxes is because no clients have money, they can't pay, and my commision slips to a ridiculously low amount. LOW INCOME = LOW TAXES. I want this economy to improve so I can get out of that 47% Obama wants me to get several small payments once a month when their welfare checks come in, barely scrape by, and eventually get one the welfare checks. I don't want this for myself, and neither do any self-repecting Americans. I want business to be better, not welfare. Formerly the SecretNinja The message I bring to you today, is a message of LOVE. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23254168 10/01/2012 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear you dude Quoting: ^TrInItY^ the scary thing is these are the people who are going to decide the election That's what kills me. That woman with the Obama phone that says Romney sucks..... Her vote counts the same as mine. She is ill informed, uneducated and incapable of making a logical decision based on true facts. I can debate and dig all I want. In the end it comes down to who is actually willing to show up to the polls and cast a vote. I'm hoping she is drugged out, drunk, or in jail on November 6th. I believe that if you do not pay taxes or can not pass a basic test on the current issues then you should not be given the privilege to vote. |
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| Mickeyblue User ID: 9806228 10/01/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are misunderstanding his(Romney's) characterization. The percentage he mentioned covers all recip[ients of whazt some now call "entitlements", social security, medicare, medical, veteran's benfits, etc.It does not mean 'they' are not paying taxes. Some are not paying income taxes but, certainly, not close to all of them. GE paid no tax The bailout money we provided them caused them to go ahead and build their new Chinese manufactuing plant.....have a problem with that????? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23254168 10/01/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control. Quoting: Tired of Selfish People 19910005 Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others. I'm all for raising taxes if we cut off social welfare programs as well I say we start taxing that 47% that don't work / pay any taxes no work = no food the easy way to do it would be to eliminate income tax all together and just have a flat national sales tax instead a tax on consumption not earnings then EVERYONE pays their fair share even the concrete jungle bunnies start taxing their gov't checks by about half and I bet they'll start paying attention to tax laws |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1637551 10/01/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what kinds of deductions? wouldn't a deduction mean you pay less taxes on those deductions? Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? I guess we all could stop smoking, drinking beer, fucking, and burning gasoline to avoid taxes. Maybe we should have a lethal injection option. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24418900 10/01/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what kinds of deductions? wouldn't a deduction mean you pay less taxes on those deductions? Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? I am sorry you are missing my point. I think every well bodied individual should pay a fair tax. The government is over taxing particular individuals. Taxing is necessary I understand that. |
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| Face Palmer Your Ad here! User ID: 24755217 10/01/2012 11:47 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In case anyone is interested, you get taxed about 40% of your income here, right before it goes into your bankaccount. Your employer needs to pay about the same amount also. From what is left, almost verything you buy is taxed with 19% VAT and of course other taxes that are added, e.g. for fuel and whatnot. Estimates range that about 80% of your income is used for paying taxes here. "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070 what kinds of deductions? wouldn't a deduction mean you pay less taxes on those deductions? Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? I guess we all could stop smoking, drinking beer, fucking, and burning gasoline to avoid taxes. Maybe we should have a lethal injection option. well, people should stop smoking. it will kill you and has no benefit to society. people should make an effort to use less gasoline. it would be good for the environment too. last i checked, i've never paid for sex, let alone paid taxes on it. point is he is free to choose to save for retirement or not. if he chooses to, that's his choice, and he can't get mad at the govt for it |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1637551 10/01/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys are not smart, sorry to say this but why don`t you manipulate poor people, instead of someone else doing it against you ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24509594 You guys are really not intelligent and you deserve to pay for the %47... Yeah Turks are experts on having a house full of kids they can't financially support, expecting society to support them. Typical Muzzie scum. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070 what kinds of deductions? wouldn't a deduction mean you pay less taxes on those deductions? Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? I am sorry you are missing my point. I think every well bodied individual should pay a fair tax. The government is over taxing particular individuals. Taxing is necessary I understand that. no, i get it. you're exaggerating your tax responsibility to make a point. i bet you watch a lot of faux news. that play is straight out of their book |
Lady Jane Smith![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 19147018 10/01/2012 11:53 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think technically am in the 47%. Last year i recieved a refund on my 1099. I did not directly pay taxes and recieved a refund. Quoting: popularopinion I work for a small family business (bail bonding).I do not want a free pass on taxes, I want for my struggling company to make more money so that i can be paid more. Our clients struggle to pay their fees and many times don't. The reason I don't pay in on my taxes is because no clients have money, they can't pay, and my commision slips to a ridiculously low amount. LOW INCOME = LOW TAXES. I want this economy to improve so I can get out of that 47% Obama wants me to get several small payments once a month when their welfare checks come in, barely scrape by, and eventually get one the welfare checks. I don't want this for myself, and neither do any self-repecting Americans. I want business to be better, not welfare. Self respecting is the key word, and is something that our country seems to be short on these days. Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 10/01/2012 11:56 AM Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided. "Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." -- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564. |
| *Heisenberg* PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 21948600 10/01/2012 11:54 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900 Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? I am sorry you are missing my point. I think every well bodied individual should pay a fair tax. The government is over taxing particular individuals. Taxing is necessary I understand that. no, i get it. you're exaggerating your tax responsibility to make a point. i bet you watch a lot of faux news. that play is straight out of their book Nice strawman and ad hominem. Your typical tactics... OP, don't waste your breath... Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 177275 10/01/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | None of you understand that some of the 47% that do not pay taxes are elderly people that have worked their entire lives are now on Social Security income which for the most part is not taxed. 47% is too broad a figure and general and has many subdivisions of people in it. There are some leeches in it but the majority are elderly folk and disabled people that do not pay any taxes at all. I say before we go after the little guy with no assets we need to have the corporations pay what they owe our country. GE making massive amounts of profits and Exxonmobil and they get tax breaks and refunds! We are paying them to make more money! Yet we focus on the little guy who is a little piece of the pie and insignificant. The biggest problem is that politicians dip in to SS revenues to pay for wars and is an additional source of spending for them. They don't mention that when they are out campaigning do they? We have to stick together as the common man with principles and dignity. Don't let yourselves be easily swayed by overly broad statements which in themselves need to be more specific to be effective or make sense. Freeloaders are typically always a nuisance. However some of these old folk were made promises their entire working lives before 401k plans were even invented and before the IRA accounts. History is important here, be careful who you try to blame because in this case many of you are focusing on the wrong people for the most part. A very small portion of that 47% is able to work and do not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070 what kinds of deductions? wouldn't a deduction mean you pay less taxes on those deductions? Perhaps I am using the wrong term. Health care, child support, retirement the actual tax portion is $2000. well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? I am sorry you are missing my point. I think every well bodied individual should pay a fair tax. The government is over taxing particular individuals. Taxing is necessary I understand that. i'm middle class too. i'm fine with paying taxes and i'm fine with extremely poor people not paying in. on the other hand people making millions and billions more than me should not be paying half or less of what i do in taxes. trickle down economics is bullshit |
| Blitz the storm-striker User ID: 3970587 10/01/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you like paying you taxes? here's a cookie to remind how much your tax have an effect on Governement policiy making! Income tax + all other anoying taxes.(assuming 100% of all Americains pays them) = 15% of the budjet. Donnations from Top coorporations as in of gambling with Politcal parties as in an attempt to Receive even more if the party is elected! = 35% of the budjet. Financing from Central banks throught Bonds = 50% of the budjet! what does 50% of 15% makes. 7,5% So yeah How does 7% of the govt budjet gets to decide how the govt spend his money? The upper hand in here are the central banks! If the govt starts to go in the favor of the 7% then he can say bye bye to the other 93%. Does that look like a good economic plan to you? Govt. is not coorupted. It's the system that is built this way! Honestly i think the govt is doing a damn good job! They are doing everything the Fedral reserve ask them to do! i'm monsterrun. (youtube) Not a conqueror, but a defender of justice, Blitz accept any into his protectorate who can feed his growing community and raise a city around them. But if anyone attack him or those under his protection, Blitz will unleash the full strength of his electrical wrath, earning the title that has survived a thousand years: the Storm-Striker. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5655958 10/01/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel truly sorry for those people still working in the US having to carry all those who've decided that being gainfully employed is no longer an option for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19656291 Someone is purposing dividing & conquering you all with the shaft & sore-butt method. Same thing happens here in Canada! Have you looked at your pay stub lately? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070 well if you're sick of paying for your healthcare then don't. if you're sick of saving for retirement, then don't. if you don't want to pay child support, you shouldn't reproduce. can you tell me why it's the governments fault that you pay for this stuff? I am sorry you are missing my point. I think every well bodied individual should pay a fair tax. The government is over taxing particular individuals. Taxing is necessary I understand that. no, i get it. you're exaggerating your tax responsibility to make a point. i bet you watch a lot of faux news. that play is straight out of their book Nice strawman and ad hominem. Your typical tactics... OP, don't waste your breath... you again with your same tired response. you haven't come up with anything else yet? yeah, my typical tactic of calling someone out for exaggerating the truth. shame on me. you're an idiot, have a nice day! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 10/01/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you like paying you taxes? here's a cookie to remind how much your tax have an effect on Governement policiy making! Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker Income tax + all other anoying taxes.(assuming 100% of all Americains pays them) = 15% of the budjet. Donnations from Top coorporations as in of gambling with Politcal parties as in an attempt to Receive even more if the party is elected! = 35% of the budjet. Financing from Central banks throught Bonds = 50% of the budjet! what does 50% of 15% makes. 7,5% So yeah How does 7% of the govt budjet gets to decide how the govt spend his money? The upper hand in here are the central banks! If the govt starts to go in the favor of the 7% then he can say bye bye to the other 93%. Does that look like a good economic plan to you? Govt. is not coorupted. It's the system that is built this way! Honestly i think the govt is doing a damn good job! They are doing everything the Fedral reserve ask them to do! WOW! |
| *Heisenberg* PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 21948600 10/01/2012 11:59 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900 I am sorry you are missing my point. I think every well bodied individual should pay a fair tax. The government is over taxing particular individuals. Taxing is necessary I understand that. no, i get it. you're exaggerating your tax responsibility to make a point. i bet you watch a lot of faux news. that play is straight out of their book Nice strawman and ad hominem. Your typical tactics... OP, don't waste your breath... you again with your same tired response. you haven't come up with anything else yet? yeah, my typical tactic of calling someone out for exaggerating the truth. shame on me. you're an idiot, have a nice day! Thanks, you too! Oh, and thanks for proving my point. :) Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |