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I am not the 47%

 
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


You know what? I find this very motivational. I am filled with a desire to go out and get a solid education and become "successful" so that I might make large sums of money to pay to the government, so that they can give my money away to people that didn't work for it! =D

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The real portion of those who do not pay taxes and suck of the gov't tit is more like 18%. I too wish they would get of their lazy asses and work. So, I agree with you on that part.
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And your source is???
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


You know what? I find this very motivational. I am filled with a desire to go out and get a solid education and become "successful" so that I might make large sums of money to pay to the government, so that they can give my money away to people that didn't work for it! =D

banana2
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Why should you? You didn't work for that pad in your mom's basement. Basement dwellers unite!
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After the system collapses and we have to build a new country from the ashes, it should be clear that ONLY THOSE with a vested interest in the game (taxpayers or maybe even landowners) should be allowed to vote.

We have a decent income and about 40% of our income goes straight to the government, and that doesn't count real estate tax and gas tax and utility tax and cell phone tax.

It's obscene.

We're penalizing the producers and rewarding the parasites.

It's so screwed up.

I'm also SICK of it. That woman with her "Obamaphone" last week - it made my stomach flip to look at her wretched mug. She represents all that is wrong with this country.
 Quoting: Hope_Full


Obamaphone woman triggered me too. I felt both physically and emotionally sick of it all.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


And how much is returned to you at the end of the year?
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Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.


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Nothing tears down a country faster than slave ownership.
No yesterday, no tomorrow.
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10/01/2012 01:31 PM
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I’m in the same boat…no breaks I just pay in and in and in.
 Quoting: YaRight


Here too.
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10/01/2012 01:32 PM
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My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control.

Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others.

pigchef
 Quoting: Tired of Selfish People 19910005


Wow! blaming Reagan now. Everybody else but Obama right?
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


You know what? I find this very motivational. I am filled with a desire to go out and get a solid education and become "successful" so that I might make large sums of money to pay to the government, so that they can give my money away to people that didn't work for it! =D

banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24350043


Why should you? You didn't work for that pad in your mom's basement. Basement dwellers unite!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24732596


Haha I got a job and 2 years of college, but yeah. =P
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Re: I am not the 47%
Trin had the best idea so far. No income tax, but a consumption tax. National sales tax.

Rich people will still end up paying more, but at least EVERYONE will be paying taxes.

That is a FAIR tax.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Great idea i would support an idea like that. However, think how it would play out in the media. wealthy have thier taxes lowered to 25% while the poor have thier taxes raised to 25%. Even though everyone is paying thier fair share just depends on how much stuff you buy. the media and political party against it would never let it happen.
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and your source is???
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That would be a Valued Added Tax , it's up on the table as we speak. It would be added to the other taxes not replace them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170


It should replace income tax.

I wouldn't be for adding to it.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


you and the rest of us wouldn't be for adding to but the government is. That is the problem.
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Of course we will have rich and poor people. but America was built on the middle class. We no longer have a middle class that is stable and by the end of the day the rich are going to have to be the ones to dish out the money to pay for what ever the government needs to do (War, investments, country wide developments). The rich bastards would be better off raising the minimum wage and letting the middle class work at dead end jobs for 30 plus years and generate a steady income for the government taken out by taxes. What the fuck rich tards, you do not need billions of dollars to live a nice life in this world. It would take just a few rich fucks to donate a few billion to stabalize the middle class and restart the middle class workforce in generating our economy like we have been doing since the early 70s to the late 90s. WTF happen! George W fucking Bush happened and sucked up all that was invested into a war that got us where....????? Where the fuck are we, in a shithole! it doesnt matter how you look at it, if you dont hold atleast a net worth of 5.5million dollars or have a salary of atleast 350k a year, your fucked! All of you!
 Quoting: Xcal2k3 24629817


so give me everything that you have worked hard for your entire life while I sit back, play xbox, and take in all the free shit that i can. what is wrong with you rich people anyway??
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


You're not paying for shit. You're just a waste of life that thinks he is and as a result is destroying the natural balance of the planet.

Because you feel this way, you are actually less in tune and less than helpful. Because of the system and your integrity, you then run with this and help destroy the planet and your race. You then complain.

This is why you all deserve what's coming to you. Which is total destruction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20931983


wouldn't total destruction be coming to you as well?1dunno1
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I hear you dude

the scary thing is these are the people who are going to decide the election
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


That's what kills me. That woman with the Obama phone that says Romney sucks.....

Her vote counts the same as mine.

She is ill informed, uneducated and incapable of making a logical decision based on true facts.

I can debate and dig all I want. In the end it comes down to who is actually willing to show up to the polls and cast a vote.

I'm hoping she is drugged out, drunk, or in jail on November 6th.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


She is an SEIU-paid "Activist"...
She'll be voting several times between now and election day.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Why does 47 keep coming up?

1947?
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I hear you dude

the scary thing is these are the people who are going to decide the election
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


That's what kills me. That woman with the Obama phone that says Romney sucks.....

Her vote counts the same as mine.

She is ill informed, uneducated and incapable of making a logical decision based on true facts.

I can debate and dig all I want. In the end it comes down to who is actually willing to show up to the polls and cast a vote.

I'm hoping she is drugged out, drunk, or in jail on November 6th.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


This is why the elites love democracy.
Take your dogma and shove it!

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Trin had the best idea so far. No income tax, but a consumption tax. National sales tax.

Rich people will still end up paying more, but at least EVERYONE will be paying taxes.

That is a FAIR tax.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Great idea i would support an idea like that. However, think how it would play out in the media. wealthy have thier taxes lowered to 25% while the poor have thier taxes raised to 25%. Even though everyone is paying thier fair share just depends on how much stuff you buy. the media and political party against it would never let it happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478672


There's no such thing as a fair tax, it will always be unfair to someone else. That's like those dumbfucks that push for fair market, it makes no sense. For the most part, the tax system is robbery period. They will not simplify it because then they won't be able to rob you all the time so easily. And simplifying it just makes taxation more legitimate and normal, making the crime of tax evasion even more vicious than murder and rape (at least that's how it's slowly turning out to be).
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The biggest fraud and problem in USA is the corrupt, mafia-run Healthcare System that needs a complete overhaul. I am voting for Obama, maybe he'll change something maybe not.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Vote for Gary Johnson he wants to in act the the fair tax.

From
[link to www.garyjohnson2012.com]

THE U.S. TAX SYSTEM IMPOSES AN ENORMOUS toll on productivity through high marginal rates, absurd complexity, loopholes for the well-connected, and incentives for wasteful decisions. A better, fairer system will be:

Abolish the Internal Revenue Service.
Enact the Fair Tax to tax expenditures, rather than income, with a 'prebate' to make spending on basic necessities tax free.
With the Fair Tax, eliminate business taxes, withholding and other levies that penalize productivity, while creating millions of jobs.
 Quoting: Soap


Gary Johnson is a republican. Another ass.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Angry at your slavery, and wish others to be more of a slave like you.

Typical

How about this, how about freedom, real freedom.

In 1912 there was no federal income tax, so

in 1912 100% of the U.S. population paid nothing in federal income tax.


So in 1912 there was no federal income tax, no national debt, and no federal reserve, now we are taxed slaves.

So, what is your real argument, that you are getting cheated, which you are, or that you want freedom for yourself, and everyone else, or is your argument that you want everyone to be slaves as you are now?
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I was in two of America's wars. my ass go relocated by an exploding round. I receive tax free VA Disability as my income. that makes me the 47%....

am I wrong for receiving this Federal income? I'm still undecided
 Quoting: leyba


No...you are one of the few we are honored to support.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Leyba, it's like this:

We all have to pay and contribute somehow to live in a civilised society.

Some of us pay in installments, year by year, in income.

You paid your account up front and in full all at once.

Never, never confuse yourself and your disability income with the condition of a parasite. You are paid up in full for perpetuity.
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make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Listen, you take your fight with those that take your $3000/00 a month away. You are not paying it to this forum.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900

The I suggest you learn how to not pay income taxes or get someone to not pay them for you as a service.

Everything you need to know is here for free.

[link to www.mensbusinessassociation.com]

What I find amazing about most men is they will whine and bitch and moan and complain....but they will not actually DO ANYTHING about it...even when presented with the remedy for FREE.

Here is an example. In the MRA world men bitch, moan and complain about alimony and child support. So I tried on not paying these things LAWFULLY. I even told a family court judge in Ireland that if he issued an order to unlawfully incarcerate me I would kill him.

That was in DECEMBER 2007. Guess what? It is October 2012 and NO ONE HAS TRIED TO ARREST ME. I refused to pay that court order and I will refuse to pay any OTHER court order too.

And what do the whiny bitches in the MRA world say?

"Oh, but if I do not pay the alimony and child support the guvment might hurt me!"

Duh!!!

YES. The guvment will send thugs to hurt you...what are YOU going to do about that?

And of course the whiny bitches say "I want someone else to protect me if the guvment tries to hurt me"

If anyone wants to learn how to not pay a court order here it is for free. If anyone wants me to help them not pay court orders or income taxes LAWFULLY then feel free to join the MBA and buy that service.

If you don't want to learn for yourself and don't want to pay someone else like me to do the work for you? Just keep paying your income taxes and alimony and child support and STFU...I am tired of hearing whiny bitches whine and bitch.
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oops..link.

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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Angry at your slavery, and wish others to be more of a slave like you.

Typical

How about this, how about freedom, real freedom.

In 1912 there was no federal income tax, so

in 1912 100% of the U.S. population paid nothing in federal income tax.


So in 1912 there was no federal income tax, no national debt, and no federal reserve, now we are taxed slaves.

So, what is your real argument, that you are getting cheated, which you are, or that you want freedom for yourself, and everyone else, or is your argument that you want everyone to be slaves as you are now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8234451


watch this and see how the sinking of the titanic was a conspiracy for Jp morgan and his criminal cabal to bring the federal reserve act not too long after!


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If you make 6100 and only bring home 3100 you are either incredibly stupid, or else you are single and the "other" deductions you have are not taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24732596


Dude...when I was working in Australia on contract in 2001 I was paid AUD1,200 per day and what came to me was AUD601. The other 599 was gone before I got paid. That AUD599 was ALL guvment deductions.

In 2000 I paid AUD96,000 in direct guvment deductions in Australia on an income of AUD210,000.

So in a lot of places having nearly 50% of your income taken from you does not result from being "incredibly stupid". It results from the criminals in the guvment and legal fraternity stealing from you.

Just like they stole my house in divorce and now I need to run cases to get the proceeds back. Our guvments are criminals...they rob peter to pay paul...and in doing so they are most assured of the support of the pauls of the world.

The guvment is not your mother....and those with any intelligence at all will refuse to pay the guvment for its services and refuse to take services from the guvment...that is what I do..

Even when I am unemployed and even though I am entitled to it I will not take money from the guvment even though I paid in for many years....

Guvments are criminal cartels...they are evil...and I will not associate myself with such evil people...I would rather chew my hand off than accept money from the guvment.

I AM going to get all my tax contributions back though....that is only fair..they were taken by contract fraud.

Men in this world are gutless faggots...they really are....they whine and moan and complain but never actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

I spoke on this topic on this forum last week. Guess what? No one contradicted me about men being gutless faggots by pointing to any evidence they were not.
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I was in two of America's wars. my ass go relocated by an exploding round. I receive tax free VA Disability as my income. that makes me the 47%....

am I wrong for receiving this Federal income? I'm still undecided
 Quoting: leyba


No, I don't think you are wrong. I think that a lot of veterans do get fraudulent disability but most don't.

I was a former tool myself in two of the wars.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 10/01/2012 04:56 PM
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Start a small business and deduct your losses! Hell, do something you love to do, and form an llc. Your car, gas, tires, electricity, room in house, insurance on vehicle, ANY business expenditure is deductible. So, you deduct all of these things, a loss, and offset your income!!!! Hey, thats why the rich stay rich, and most are too risk adverse to try a business...

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