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I am not the 47%

 
*Heisenberg*

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I hear you dude

the scary thing is these are the people who are going to decide the election
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


That's what kills me. That woman with the Obama phone that says Romney sucks.....

Her vote counts the same as mine.

She is ill informed, uneducated and incapable of making a logical decision based on true facts.

I can debate and dig all I want. In the end it comes down to who is actually willing to show up to the polls and cast a vote.

I'm hoping she is drugged out, drunk, or in jail on November 6th.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Someone should start a rumor that election day is November 7th and everyone that shows up on November 7th to vote gets free IPHONE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499647


^that^ love the suggestion a/cbanana2
 Quoting: JanJan


ohyeah +1
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The answer: move out. That's what I'm doing.
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Funny you should say that we are thinking about transferring perhaps Australia. How bout you?
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10/01/2012 12:30 PM
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true, i don't care about your opinion. why should i when all you do is ignore points you can't argue against and write it all off as "ad hominem". you rely on trite expressions instead of facts and debate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Hey, you are entitled to your opinion. :)

You don't have to agree with me, I can't force you to be right.

:)
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


a laughable idiot you are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Insult after insult.

"Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas."

I guess we see where you stand eh?

:)
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


i insult you because i'm bored and there's no point in reasoning with you. i put it on a level you can understand. those words weren't too big were they?
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Hey, you are entitled to your opinion. :)

You don't have to agree with me, I can't force you to be right.

:)
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


a laughable idiot you are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Insult after insult.

"Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas."

I guess we see where you stand eh?

:)
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


i insult you because i'm bored and there's no point in reasoning with you. i put it on a level you can understand. those words weren't too big were they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Yes, yes we do see where you stand.

:)

hf
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Trin had the best idea so far. No income tax, but a consumption tax. National sales tax.

Rich people will still end up paying more, but at least EVERYONE will be paying taxes.

That is a FAIR tax.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*
cheers
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10/01/2012 12:32 PM
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Trin had the best idea so far. No income tax, but a consumption tax. National sales tax.

Rich people will still end up paying more, but at least EVERYONE will be paying taxes.

That is a FAIR tax.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*
cheers
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10/01/2012 12:34 PM
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That would be a Valued Added Tax , it's up on the table as we speak. It would be added to the other taxes not replace them.
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10/01/2012 12:36 PM
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I was in two of America's wars. my ass go relocated by an exploding round. I receive tax free VA Disability as my income. that makes me the 47%....

am I wrong for receiving this Federal income? I'm still undecided
 Quoting: leyba


No, in your case you are not wrong.

You have/lost skin in the game -- literally.

You earned your disability by paying a terrible price & deserve to be cared for. We are not talking about people such as yourself.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes you are. It's black or white. Pick a side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


So, you do not think someone who was ripped to pieces by an exploding round while trying to defend our country, should have been left to die? Or left to starve on the streets?

What skin do you have in this game, Asshole with the Japanese flag??
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


This thread is about the 47% not paying taxes. Disabled are included in these numbers.
So basicly you are the one who doesnt want to pay for the wounded.

You people dont honestly think 47% of all people just refuse to work and pay taxes right?
Romney just chose 47% because it sounds more impressive then maybe 15% which is more realistic.
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That would be a Valued Added Tax , it's up on the table as we speak. It would be added to the other taxes not replace them.
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It should replace income tax.

I wouldn't be for adding to it.
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10/01/2012 12:41 PM
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I hear you dude

the scary thing is these are the people who are going to decide the election
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


That's what kills me. That woman with the Obama phone that says Romney sucks.....

Her vote counts the same as mine.

She is ill informed, uneducated and incapable of making a logical decision based on true facts.

I can debate and dig all I want. In the end it comes down to who is actually willing to show up to the polls and cast a vote.

I'm hoping she is drugged out, drunk, or in jail on November 6th.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


applause2
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10/01/2012 12:46 PM
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I hear you dude

the scary thing is these are the people who are going to decide the election
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


That's what kills me. That woman with the Obama phone that says Romney sucks.....

Her vote counts the same as mine.

She is ill informed, uneducated and incapable of making a logical decision based on true facts.

I can debate and dig all I want. In the end it comes down to who is actually willing to show up to the polls and cast a vote.

I'm hoping she is drugged out, drunk, or in jail on November 6th.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


I believe that if you do not pay taxes or can not pass a basic test on the current issues then you should not be given the privilege to vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


clappa
Bravo !
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No, in your case you are not wrong.

You have/lost skin in the game -- literally.

You earned your disability by paying a terrible price & deserve to be cared for. We are not talking about people such as yourself.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes you are. It's black or white. Pick a side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


So, you do not think someone who was ripped to pieces by an exploding round while trying to defend our country, should have been left to die? Or left to starve on the streets?

What skin do you have in this game, Asshole with the Japanese flag??
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


This thread is about the 47% not paying taxes. Disabled are included in these numbers.
So basicly you are the one who doesnt want to pay for the wounded.

You people dont honestly think 47% of all people just refuse to work and pay taxes right?
Romney just chose 47% because it sounds more impressive then maybe 15% which is more realistic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1987571


Wrong. You need to read my post responding to the disabled veteran.

Once again, why is a foreign flag (Netherlands, this time) so worried about our discussion of domestic matters?

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No, in your case you are not wrong.

You have/lost skin in the game -- literally.

You earned your disability by paying a terrible price & deserve to be cared for. We are not talking about people such as yourself.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes you are. It's black or white. Pick a side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


So, you do not think someone who was ripped to pieces by an exploding round while trying to defend our country, should have been left to die? Or left to starve on the streets?

What skin do you have in this game, Asshole with the Japanese flag??
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


This thread is about the 47% not paying taxes. Disabled are included in these numbers.
So basicly you are the one who doesnt want to pay for the wounded.

You people dont honestly think 47% of all people just refuse to work and pay taxes right?
Romney just chose 47% because it sounds more impressive then maybe 15% which is more realistic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1987571


that's the problem dipshit. he lumped in people with legitimate reasons to be on govt welfare in with parasites. that shit is not cool
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Shame you can't afford non-retard pills.

2/3rds of the 47% also work.

10% percent of the 47% pay no federal income tax because they are retired or elderly, and Social Security payments are not taxed.

Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

Now go whine to someone else.

Sources:

[link to www.taxpolicycenter.org]
[link to www.itepnet.org]
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Shame you can't afford non-retard pills.

2/3rds of the 47% also work.

10% percent of the 47% pay no federal income tax because they are retired or elderly, and Social Security payments are not taxed.

Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

Now go whine to someone else.

Sources:

[link to www.taxpolicycenter.org]
[link to www.itepnet.org]
 Quoting: seethelight


here are those damn facts again, ruining the faux outrage. keep the actual useful information to yourself pal. we don't like your kind around here
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I hear you dude

the scary thing is these are the people who are going to decide the election
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


That's right! Mob rule! People have a hard time understanding that in a Democratic Republic.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Shame you can't afford non-retard pills.

2/3rds of the 47% also work.

10% percent of the 47% pay no federal income tax because they are retired or elderly, and Social Security payments are not taxed.

Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

Now go whine to someone else.

Sources:

[link to www.taxpolicycenter.org]
[link to www.itepnet.org]
 Quoting: seethelight


here are those damn facts again, ruining the faux outrage. keep the actual useful information to yourself pal. we don't like your kind around here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


hahaha
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Of course we will have rich and poor people. but America was built on the middle class. We no longer have a middle class that is stable and by the end of the day the rich are going to have to be the ones to dish out the money to pay for what ever the government needs to do (War, investments, country wide developments). The rich bastards would be better off raising the minimum wage and letting the middle class work at dead end jobs for 30 plus years and generate a steady income for the government taken out by taxes. What the fuck rich tards, you do not need billions of dollars to live a nice life in this world. It would take just a few rich fucks to donate a few billion to stabalize the middle class and restart the middle class workforce in generating our economy like we have been doing since the early 70s to the late 90s. WTF happen! George W fucking Bush happened and sucked up all that was invested into a war that got us where....????? Where the fuck are we, in a shithole! it doesnt matter how you look at it, if you dont hold atleast a net worth of 5.5million dollars or have a salary of atleast 350k a year, your fucked! All of you!
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Shame you can't afford non-retard pills.

2/3rds of the 47% also work.

10% percent of the 47% pay no federal income tax because they are retired or elderly, and Social Security payments are not taxed.

Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

Now go whine to someone else.

Sources:

[link to www.taxpolicycenter.org]
[link to www.itepnet.org]
 Quoting: seethelight


I feel the same way. To me, it doesn't matter what goes where. It's having to pay that 47% to the crime lord in this free country. Economic Slave? And people think they're free!
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not entirely true all federal employees pay income tax but they pay it out of money paid for with the 53% of working people taxed funds if you add that percentage of non contributors the 47% would increase. like taking water from one end of the pool and filling the other end. it is a broken system. specially considering at the rate of government growth.

I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Shame you can't afford non-retard pills.

2/3rds of the 47% also work.

10% percent of the 47% pay no federal income tax because they are retired or elderly, and Social Security payments are not taxed.

Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

Now go whine to someone else.

Sources:

[link to www.taxpolicycenter.org]
[link to www.itepnet.org]
 Quoting: seethelight
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


i am blown away by how many people feel righteous about being unemployed and leeches off society. america has shifted greatly in a few short years, and its only going to get worse.
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not entirely true all federal employees pay income tax but they pay it out of money paid for with the 53% of working people taxed funds if you add that percentage of non contributors the 47% would increase. like taking water from one end of the pool and filling the other end. it is a broken system. specially considering at the rate of government growth.

I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


Shame you can't afford non-retard pills.

2/3rds of the 47% also work.

10% percent of the 47% pay no federal income tax because they are retired or elderly, and Social Security payments are not taxed.

Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

Now go whine to someone else.

Sources:

[link to www.taxpolicycenter.org]
[link to www.itepnet.org]
 Quoting: seethelight

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Well said.
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My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control.

Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others.

pigchef
 Quoting: Tired of Selfish People 19910005


I'm all for raising taxes if we cut off social welfare programs as well

I say we start taxing that 47% that don't work / pay any taxes

no work = no food

the easy way to do it would be to eliminate income tax all together and just have a flat national sales tax instead

a tax on consumption not earnings

then EVERYONE pays their fair share

even the concrete jungle bunnies
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Exactly THIS....^^^
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


You're not paying for shit. You're just a waste of life that thinks he is and as a result is destroying the natural balance of the planet.

Because you feel this way, you are actually less in tune and less than helpful. Because of the system and your integrity, you then run with this and help destroy the planet and your race. You then complain.

This is why you all deserve what's coming to you. Which is total destruction.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


You're not paying for shit. You're just a waste of life that thinks he is and as a result is destroying the natural balance of the planet.

Because you feel this way, you are actually less in tune and less than helpful. Because of the system and your integrity, you then run with this and help destroy the planet and your race. You then complain.

This is why you all deserve what's coming to you. Which is total destruction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20931983


You're quite chipper this morning....
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


I served my country in the U.S. Army, after that I hauled goods all across the country, earning 60k and paying a lot in taxes, under Republican presidents. I worked all my life, am 50 years old now and am disabled on SSDI which I paid into for many years, thank you. I do Not pay income taxes now. Instead I hardly survive on SSDI, still pay $100/month in Medicare premiums, don't receive food stamps, and live month-to-month. I do remember a country that was good to work in before all our money and jobs got out-sourced overseas by Greedy fuckers like Romney. FUCK Romney and the horse he rode in on. How did he get his wealth? By sticking it to Americans. He claims he is more American and Obama is more European? WEll then why doesn't Romney keep his money in America? More tax shelters for billionaires. That is all Romney is about. Care about America? I think not. 47% or whatever.

If you make 6100 and only bring home 3100 you are either incredibly stupid, or else you are single and the "other" deductions you have are not taxes.

So find it incredible or whatever but there are those who came before you who made it possible for you to earn what you do, Moran. So STFU and be thankful you have an income and are ABLE to work.
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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
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Shame you can't afford non-retard pills.

2/3rds of the 47% also work.

10% percent of the 47% pay no federal income tax because they are retired or elderly, and Social Security payments are not taxed.

Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

Now go whine to someone else.

Sources:

[link to www.taxpolicycenter.org]
[link to www.itepnet.org]
 Quoting: seethelight


^THIS^ FFS people, get your facts straight before posting threads just to bitch about the "47%".

Willfull ignorance is destroying this nation.
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My wife and I have a combined household income of about $300,000 and rising. We paid well into the five figures in taxes this past year. But you know what? Our country is $16 trillion in debt. As Reagan ran up deficits and, consequently, the debt during the 1980s, the mantra from fiscal conservatives (which Reagan WASN'T) was, "Our kids and grandkids are going to pay for this!" Guess what? I'm in my mid-30s, I'm the child and/or grandchild of the Reagan-era policy makers that began this run-up of debt, and I can afford to pay my share to get the debt under control.

Tax rates and revenues are near all-time lows. But I can easily afford to pay another $5,000 a year in taxes. So, please, save the country by raising my taxes. Don't listen to the selfish people who believe that the life we enjoy in America is free. We are all in this together. Some of us can just afford to contribute more than others.

pigchef
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1860 US Debt approx $65,000,000.00
1865 US Debt approx $1,000,000,000.00
1980 US Debt approx $1,000,000,000,000.00
2012 US Debt approx $16,000,000,000,000.00

It took the US over 200 years to reach One Trillion in Debt.
It only took Them just over 30 years to multiply that One Trillion Debt 16 TIMES!

Go ahead and give these irresponsible assholes more money...all you need to do is not deduct some of your deductions and you can give more. But, I'll bet $5000 you don't!
"The Tree of Liberty is Thirsty and needs Watering"

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Only 6.9% of people who are non-elderly don't pay income tax.

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I find it incredible that 47% don't pay income tax. I on the other hand make $6100 a month before taxes but only take home 3100 after taxes and other deductions! This system is bullshit I am sick of paying for the other 47% and am not afraid to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24418900


You know what? I find this very motivational. I am filled with a desire to go out and get a solid education and become "successful" so that I might make large sums of money to pay to the government, so that they can give my money away to people that didn't work for it! =D

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