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Ta'veren - a person around whom the Pattern of the World structures itself

 
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do ta'veren ever get a better spot on the wheel like promoted or something? what should a ta'veren do if they feel their place on the wheel is very bad or is this not something they expereince.
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do ta'veren ever get a better spot on the wheel like promoted or something? what should a ta'veren do if they feel their place on the wheel is very bad or is this not something they expereince.
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Everyone has their own unique destiny to fulfill.
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do ta'veren ever get a better spot on the wheel like promoted or something? what should a ta'veren do if they feel their place on the wheel is very bad or is this not something they expereince.
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Also, this is similar to the Nobody meme.

The world shapes itself in accordance with the destiny of the ta'veren.

World events, people, places things, etc all shift by the actions of the ta'veren (Nobody), in order to guide in the new age.
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I am starting to feel there very well may be more than one select individual that some are looking for this time around to help push them in the right direction of understanding. Individuals who would help them to see what they are having trouble seeing on their own due to not having used that part of their mind for so long because of society causing us to view things incorrectly, as in the material instead of the spiritually physical aspect.

That is all i have to say for now.

Peace:)
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...

...but still, that individual has to WANT to change themselves. Or it will not work. This is why we are seeing all this drama going down in the material world. To shake the very foundations of those who are still lost in giving their power away. They have to fall all the way down in order to see that that system of thinking just does not work for their own good. It never will(only temporary). This is self evident if they just look around at where it has gotten them time and time again.
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... The ones who control the power structure now and are quickly loosing grip(some say they already have), are trying to get the ones that are being talked about here to fight amongst eachother, in order to keep them divided instead of united in a common cause of lifting up all of humanity as spiritual beings trying to move forward once again. And to continue moving forward.
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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... The ones who control the power structure now and are quickly loosing grip(some say they already have), are trying to get the ones that are being talked about here to fight amongst eachother, in order to keep them divided instead of united in a common cause of lifting up all of humanity as spiritual beings trying to move forward once again. And to continue moving forward.
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Division is one of the greatest tools at their disposal. And humans fall for it every time.
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... The ones who control the power structure now and are quickly loosing grip(some say they already have), are trying to get the ones that are being talked about here to fight amongst eachother, in order to keep them divided instead of united in a common cause of lifting up all of humanity as spiritual beings trying to move forward once again. And to continue moving forward.
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Division is one of the greatest tools at their disposal. And humans fall for it every time.
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SOS you back now Sir? (Your account that is)
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idk whats going on here but SoS made it so its cool with me:)
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idk whats going on here but SoS made it so its cool with me:)
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Not sure why, but I like you better as AC, SoS.
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I am starting to feel there very well may be more than one select individual that some are looking for this time around to help push them in the right direction of understanding. Individuals who would help them to see what they are having trouble seeing on their own due to not having used that part of their mind for so long because of society causing us to view things incorrectly, as in the material instead of the spiritually physical aspect.

That is all i have to say for now.

Peace:)
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hf

The author might have gotten the idea of the Ta'veren, from the Lamed Vavniks of Jewish lore.

Lamed Vav are the Hebrew letters for 36. According to legend, there must be 36 righteous men on the Earth at all times, otherwise the Elohim would grow bored with our world and it would cease to exist.

When a Lamed Vavnik realizes that he is one of the 36, he dies. Hopefully, another comes along to replace him.
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interesting

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Sitting in a room, with a bowl full of green trying all the things they say will never work.

I got nothing to lose, and everything to gain, it's already pain, so i choose.
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Sitting in a room, with a bowl full of green trying all the things they say will never work.

I got nothing to lose, and everything to gain, it's already pain, so i choose.
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Watch it..!
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Sitting in a room, with a bowl full of green trying all the things they say will never work.

I got nothing to lose, and everything to gain, it's already pain, so i choose.
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Watch it..!
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What? I'm just channeling, same as all of you, right?

I'm not worried about the thought police. At the end of the day i suspect the smarter ones just want to be released from the stress and pressure of their duties.
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Sitting in a room, with a bowl full of green trying all the things they say will never work.

I got nothing to lose, and everything to gain, it's already pain, so i choose.
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Watch it..!
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What? I'm just channeling, same as all of you, right?

I'm not worried about the thought police. At the end of the day i suspect the smarter ones just want to be released from the stress and pressure of their duties.
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You misunderstood my words! (:
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[link to www.mistresskalpanasrealm.com]

Arianrhod (aree AN rod), whose name means "Silver Wheel", is a Goddess of fertility, the full moon, the stars, regeneration, and reincarnation, whose pathway is an eternal quest or thread that has no beginning or end. The spirit of Arianrhod is a symbol of prophecy and dreams. As a meditative glyph, She provides a glimpse of both the past and future, but the traveler must follow the Spirit of Arianrhod with an open heart and mind. She controls the time dimension that allows access to the whirlpool of Creation; an enigmatic vision of the universe as perceived by the Celts. She is the personification of the ever-turning Wheel of the Year. This wheel was also known as the Oar Wheel, a ship that carried dead warriors to the Moon-land (Emania). She is a primal figure of female power and authority and is considered an Ancestral Goddess of the Celts. The key to the nature of this Goddess is that She is a weaver, in control of the interactions of human lives and of the matter of creation itself. In Irish tradition we find that the Goddess of the Land of Erin may manifest as a weaver. She lives in a stellar realm, Caer Arianrhod - otherwise known as the Corona Borealis, with her female attendants and there she decides the fate of the dead. The Corona Borealis is the self-same constellation that is associated with Ariadne, a Greek resonance of Arianrhod. She is a very sexual Goddess and mates freely with any man she chooses, whenever she chooses, as her body is hers to do with, as she wants. For this reason she is often in open rebellion against patriarchal society. Many believe that her myths represent the shift from the time of Celtic women's full freedom to that of male centered clans and male domination of women.


the myths aren't just myths, they're personifications of our own attributes (god/men and goddesses/women)

when we can understand them we then can understand ourselves
the major gods and goddesses transcend different cultures across time, no matter the culture/people you'll find an arianrhod in their mythology along with other prominent gods/goddesses
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say her other name
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sophia
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Not sure why, but I like you better as AC, SoS.
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That's strange? Why, because of my old avatar?
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Not sure why, but I like you better as AC, SoS.
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That's strange? Why, because of my old avatar?
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The guy behind the chess pieces? That was a interesting avatar.

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Not sure why, but I like you better as AC, SoS.
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That's strange? Why, because of my old avatar?
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The guy behind the chess pieces? That was a interesting avatar.
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ohyeah
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It seems you saw metatrons cube, it contains all knowledge so I have heard.

It has been said we use our antakarana to access the cube.

[link to lightgrid.ning.com]
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It seems you saw metatrons cube, it contains all knowledge so I have heard.

It has been said we use our antakarana to access the cube.

[link to lightgrid.ning.com]
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antahkarana
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It seems you saw metatrons cube, it contains all knowledge so I have heard.

It has been said we use our antakarana to access the cube.

[link to lightgrid.ning.com]
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That is what I have felt as well. Not that it was necessarily Metatron's cube, but that it contained all knowledge.

Man, there are so many things that have happened to me, I would love to figure it all out some day.

I'm sure that the day I die, it will all be available to me. Until then, I shall continue seeking.
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Not sure why, but I like you better as AC, SoS.
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That's strange? Why, because of my old avatar?
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Don't think so, I like Chess, I like Jason Statham, I like the movie and I like the symbolism :D

Anyways, nevermind.. it just seems to fit you!
(Not saying you are a coward!)
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Not sure why, but I like you better as AC, SoS.
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That's strange? Why, because of my old avatar?
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Don't think so, I like Chess, I like Jason Statham, I like the movie and I like the symbolism :D

Anyways, nevermind.. it just seems to fit you!
(Not saying you are a coward!)
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lol
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It seems you saw metatrons cube, it contains all knowledge so I have heard.

It has been said we use our antakarana to access the cube.

[link to lightgrid.ning.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6764501


That is what I have felt as well. Not that it was necessarily Metatron's cube, but that it contained all knowledge.

Man, there are so many things that have happened to me, I would love to figure it all out some day.

I'm sure that the day I die, it will all be available to me. Until then, I shall continue seeking.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals 865798


Sometimes I wish I never opened the door, leaves me with more questions than answers and no actual physical people to talk with about them.

Then others like when I have seen my antakarana did not have a name at the time but it was wonderful to behold and has left a lasting impression.

To wait till I die for the answers is unfair.
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It seems you saw metatrons cube, it contains all knowledge so I have heard.

It has been said we use our antakarana to access the cube.

[link to lightgrid.ning.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6764501


That is what I have felt as well. Not that it was necessarily Metatron's cube, but that it contained all knowledge.

Man, there are so many things that have happened to me, I would love to figure it all out some day.

I'm sure that the day I die, it will all be available to me. Until then, I shall continue seeking.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals 865798


Sometimes I wish I never opened the door, leaves me with more questions than answers and no actual physical people to talk with about them.

Then others like when I have seen my antakarana did not have a name at the time but it was wonderful to behold and has left a lasting impression.

To wait till I die for the answers is unfair.
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I have no regrets in opening the door. More questions for sure. But, I think about the things I have been through, and consider it an impossible life. It has been difficult in the extreme, but I would never consider not opening the dorrs.
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It sounds like they are describing the Avatars, but they would be incorrect in saying they are "made not born that way."

Avatars incarnate in ages when there chaos and darkness prevail. They restore order. There are several very powerful Avatars walking among us today. They change things. They do so effortlessly, with the slightest of intention (yes, it's controllable by Them) dropped into the Ocean of Awareness.

These are the Enlightened Ones from birth. They reestablish dharma (righteousness) when darkness begins to prevail. They bring balance to all kingdoms -- plant, animal, human, insect, mineral, etc.

We all have the ability to be a so-called Ta'veren to some extent if we can surrender our egos, but not like These Ones who are born with this purpose. They are powerful beyond all measure. We'll never be truly like Them as They are manifestations of Life Itself without ever having had the veil of ego/illusion covering Them. They have absolutely zero limits. And, they are very, very Real. I've met two of Them that I know of, though it could have easily been more than two if They didn't want me to know who They were.
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I'm not sure we're even talking about Ta'veren, as Avatars seem far more powerful than how I see a Ta'veren being described here.

They make themselves known to those who are meant to know Them. They'll do things to make it crystal clear. Perhaps perform a certain unmistakable miracle. Or perhaps awaken a deep, unshakeable knowingness within. It's up to Them. They are the God-Men and God-Women of our world.

And, they don't "go around boasting about it." They are pure and utter humility. It is others that recognize Them for who and what they are and that speak of Them, as I am doing here.

Ta'veren's sound similar in a way, as Avatars also change the fabric of "reality" when its pattern starts to degrade into chaos and increased separation, but it seems to me some fiction was thrown in there that distorted the truth of who/what the Avatars are.
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Meeting an Avatar changes your life, permanently. You are never the same again, no matter if you saw them at a distance once, or spent years at their feet.

I've met four, in all those varying degrees of meeting. I can barely even remember what I was like before I met them. Or rather, my memories are just fine, but the connection to insecurites, confusions and ignorance I had back then simply doesn't exist anymore, so relating to that former state of consciousness is difficult, except to give me more compassion.

Avatars are fire. Fire changes things just by existing. But Avatars are conscious fire, so experiencing them literally boggles the mind, because they are beyond the mind. And yet they can act more normal than normal. They'll crack a casual joke and make a simple observation about a mundane subject, then glance at you and stop time and space and reorient your soul in and instant before they walk away and check on the kitchen, leaving you holding onto the wall, trying to get back into your body. And then you're wrapped in spontaneous stillness so thick that it puts others into meditation just by being near you, and enables you to meditate years later just by recalling the experience.

Or they'll let you sit, meditating in frustration, for months or years while you work through inner blocks, and apparently ignore you (as if they can ignore anything, LOL). But when they want you to feel ignored... you feel ignored! And pissed!

And then the block releases, and the soul-heart bliss flows like silent thunder, and you can't remember what you were mad about.

Rumi wrote in exasperated rage and yearning with his Master (I'm paraphrazing): "I will beat the drum at the Gates of Love, and warn everyone to stay away, so that they don't have to suffer the terrible burning of this blissful love that never ends."

---

As for this "Ta'veren" thing, it reminds me of a personified version of the description of a "Strange Attractor" in Chaos Theory.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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It sounds like they are describing the Avatars, but they would be incorrect in saying they are "made not born that way."

Avatars incarnate in ages when there chaos and darkness prevail. They restore order. There are several very powerful Avatars walking among us today. They change things. They do so effortlessly, with the slightest of intention (yes, it's controllable by Them) dropped into the Ocean of Awareness.

These are the Enlightened Ones from birth. They reestablish dharma (righteousness) when darkness begins to prevail. They bring balance to all kingdoms -- plant, animal, human, insect, mineral, etc.

We all have the ability to be a so-called Ta'veren to some extent if we can surrender our egos, but not like These Ones who are born with this purpose. They are powerful beyond all measure. We'll never be truly like Them as They are manifestations of Life Itself without ever having had the veil of ego/illusion covering Them. They have absolutely zero limits. And, they are very, very Real. I've met two of Them that I know of, though it could have easily been more than two if They didn't want me to know who They were.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6139196


I'm not sure we're even talking about Ta'veren, as Avatars seem far more powerful than how I see a Ta'veren being described here.

They make themselves known to those who are meant to know Them. They'll do things to make it crystal clear. Perhaps perform a certain unmistakable miracle. Or perhaps awaken a deep, unshakeable knowingness within. It's up to Them. They are the God-Men and God-Women of our world.

And, they don't "go around boasting about it." They are pure and utter humility. It is others that recognize Them for who and what they are and that speak of Them, as I am doing here.

Ta'veren's sound similar in a way, as Avatars also change the fabric of "reality" when its pattern starts to degrade into chaos and increased separation, but it seems to me some fiction was thrown in there that distorted the truth of who/what the Avatars are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6139196

Meeting an Avatar changes your life, permanently. You are never the same again, no matter if you saw them at a distance once, or spent years at their feet.

I've met four, in all those varying degrees of meeting. I can barely even remember what I was like before I met them. Or rather, my memories are just fine, but the connection to insecurites, confusions and ignorance I had back then simply doesn't exist anymore, so relating to that former state of consciousness is difficult, except to give me more compassion.

Avatars are fire. Fire changes things just by existing. But Avatars are conscious fire, so experiencing them literally boggles the mind, because they are beyond the mind. And yet they can act more normal than normal. They'll crack a casual joke and make a simple observation about a mundane subject, then glance at you and stop time and space and reorient your soul in and instant before they walk away and check on the kitchen, leaving you holding onto the wall, trying to get back into your body. And then you're wrapped in spontaneous stillness so thick that it puts others into meditation just by being near you, and enables you to meditate years later just by recalling the experience.

Or they'll let you sit, meditating in frustration, for months or years while you work through inner blocks, and apparently ignore you (as if they can ignore anything, LOL). But when they want you to feel ignored... you feel ignored! And pissed!

And then the block releases, and the soul-heart bliss flows like silent thunder, and you can't remember what you were mad about.

Rumi wrote in exasperated rage and yearning with his Master (I'm paraphrazing): "I will beat the drum at the Gates of Love, and warn everyone to stay away, so that they don't have to suffer the terrible burning of this blissful love that never ends."

---

As for this "Ta'veren" thing, it reminds me of a personified version of the description of a "Strange Attractor" in Chaos Theory.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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:) Awesome Post AC Thanks for sharing...

hf
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It seems you saw metatrons cube, it contains all knowledge so I have heard.

It has been said we use our antakarana to access the cube.

[link to lightgrid.ning.com]
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That is what I have felt as well. Not that it was necessarily Metatron's cube, but that it contained all knowledge.

Man, there are so many things that have happened to me, I would love to figure it all out some day.

I'm sure that the day I die, it will all be available to me. Until then, I shall continue seeking.
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For some reason the black cube reminded me of the Dark Knight satellite thread that has been floating around GLP.hiding
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It sounds like they are describing the Avatars, but they would be incorrect in saying they are "made not born that way."

Avatars incarnate in ages when there chaos and darkness prevail. They restore order. There are several very powerful Avatars walking among us today. They change things. They do so effortlessly, with the slightest of intention (yes, it's controllable by Them) dropped into the Ocean of Awareness.

These are the Enlightened Ones from birth. They reestablish dharma (righteousness) when darkness begins to prevail. They bring balance to all kingdoms -- plant, animal, human, insect, mineral, etc.

We all have the ability to be a so-called Ta'veren to some extent if we can surrender our egos, but not like These Ones who are born with this purpose. They are powerful beyond all measure. We'll never be truly like Them as They are manifestations of Life Itself without ever having had the veil of ego/illusion covering Them. They have absolutely zero limits. And, they are very, very Real. I've met two of Them that I know of, though it could have easily been more than two if They didn't want me to know who They were.
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I'm not sure we're even talking about Ta'veren, as Avatars seem far more powerful than how I see a Ta'veren being described here.

They make themselves known to those who are meant to know Them. They'll do things to make it crystal clear. Perhaps perform a certain unmistakable miracle. Or perhaps awaken a deep, unshakeable knowingness within. It's up to Them. They are the God-Men and God-Women of our world.

And, they don't "go around boasting about it." They are pure and utter humility. It is others that recognize Them for who and what they are and that speak of Them, as I am doing here.

Ta'veren's sound similar in a way, as Avatars also change the fabric of "reality" when its pattern starts to degrade into chaos and increased separation, but it seems to me some fiction was thrown in there that distorted the truth of who/what the Avatars are.
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Meeting an Avatar changes your life, permanently. You are never the same again, no matter if you saw them at a distance once, or spent years at their feet.

I've met four, in all those varying degrees of meeting. I can barely even remember what I was like before I met them. Or rather, my memories are just fine, but the connection to insecurites, confusions and ignorance I had back then simply doesn't exist anymore, so relating to that former state of consciousness is difficult, except to give me more compassion.

Avatars are fire. Fire changes things just by existing. But Avatars are conscious fire, so experiencing them literally boggles the mind, because they are beyond the mind. And yet they can act more normal than normal. They'll crack a casual joke and make a simple observation about a mundane subject, then glance at you and stop time and space and reorient your soul in and instant before they walk away and check on the kitchen, leaving you holding onto the wall, trying to get back into your body. And then you're wrapped in spontaneous stillness so thick that it puts others into meditation just by being near you, and enables you to meditate years later just by recalling the experience.

Or they'll let you sit, meditating in frustration, for months or years while you work through inner blocks, and apparently ignore you (as if they can ignore anything, LOL). But when they want you to feel ignored... you feel ignored! And pissed!

And then the block releases, and the soul-heart bliss flows like silent thunder, and you can't remember what you were mad about.

Rumi wrote in exasperated rage and yearning with his Master (I'm paraphrazing): "I will beat the drum at the Gates of Love, and warn everyone to stay away, so that they don't have to suffer the terrible burning of this blissful love that never ends."

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As for this "Ta'veren" thing, it reminds me of a personified version of the description of a "Strange Attractor" in Chaos Theory.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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:) Awesome Post AC Thanks for sharing...

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