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Is Jesus Michael the Archangel?

 
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St. Michael is Prince of the Heavenly Hosts. Jesus Chris is Lord. St. Michael is a faithful servant of our Lord.
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Is Jesus Michael the Archangel?
yes micheal the great prince
the JESUS KING OF THE JEWS
KING OF ISRAEL
JESUS KING OF ANGELS
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Also as shown in the book of Revelation, it is Michael the Angel of the Lord who is called 'the Word of God', not Jesus. Michael the father the word of God leads the armies of heaven when returning back to Earth. Michael is the Lord of hosts, the leader of God's army. Michael always fights the battles, never Jesus.
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St. Michael is Prince of the Heavenly Hosts. Jesus Chris is Lord. St. Michael is a faithful servant of our Lord.
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Reasonable..
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St. Michael is Prince of the Heavenly Hosts. Jesus Chris is Lord. St. Michael is a faithful servant of our Lord.
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Reasonable..
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No, Michael is not Jesus-Yashua. Michael the Archangel is God Almighty the father of Jesus, Michael is the Angel of the Lord throughout the old and new testament.
 Quoting: Monkey Doo

Aren't they one The Son and The Father along with The Holy Spirit?! Is not Christ The God?!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24676512

No, The father God and Jesus are separate beings.

Jesus is not called God Almighty, only the father creator is. Just look through the book of Revelation, it is always God the father and the lamb, Jesus is never called God, he is only ever called the lamb.
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For me he is God.

Stay with your opinion.
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He who has seen me hath seen the Father.
Thats what Jesus said.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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poor forgetful co-creator spirits who think their lowly souls aka beasts who need a master to punish them and train them to be good as they cant let go of the beast/soul back into the sea of forgetfulness and walk out as spirit with the golden rule written within...love your self as you love your neighbor..when we all see our self's as co-creators and equal we find the peace of the spirit within and it will manifest in the creation also..hf

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 10/01/2012 06:25 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Hey OP! nice info but the way you present it is wrong. That whole "Jesus" name has fallen to the dogs. Everyone thinks they own jesus. They all beLIEve to themselves they'd know because they "listen to their hearts" when they know not who is speaking through them.

The whole realization isn't as easy as everyone trys to make it out to be. It would be better stay ice cold water then to add just enough hot to become lukewarm, but that is what the majority do.

As for you, you assume understanding and thus try to translate that to others, but you present it as a ram butting.

The creator son Michael of this universe, joshaua, and the archangel of Michael, are seperated issues thought they all come from the same source.

You started the title off with "Jesus" to grab attentions, but if you truly cared you might have started another way.


They that would like to believe themselves to be rightous call themselves "CHRISTians", but are more christ stains upon the ground of mankind. Do not follow after them.
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Aren't they one The Son and The Father along with The Holy Spirit?! Is not Christ The God?!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24676512

No, The father God and Jesus are separate beings.

Jesus is not called God Almighty, only the father creator is. Just look through the book of Revelation, it is always God the father and the lamb, Jesus is never called God, he is only ever called the lamb.
 Quoting: Monkey Doo


For me he is God.

Stay with your opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24676512


He who has seen me hath seen the Father.
Thats what Jesus said.
 Quoting: Kirk
that was the spirit speaking through the ark you call jesus so the spirit said, he who has seen the spirit has also seen the creator..jesus has no other spirit than we all do..you cannot separate the spirit ,we can only share the spirit..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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He who has seen me hath seen the Father.
Thats what Jesus said.
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Jesus was talking about his actions and example that he showed by his life. Study through the book of Revelation, it always says God who sits upon the throne, and the Lamb. It is always Michael the father God and the Lamb, always making the distinction of the two people.
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Hey OP! nice info but the way you present it is wrong. That whole "Jesus" name has fallen to the dogs. Everyone thinks they own jesus. They all beLIEve to themselves they'd know because they "listen to their hearts" when they know not who is speaking through them.

The whole realization isn't as easy as everyone trys to make it out to be. It would be better stay ice cold water then to add just enough hot to become lukewarm, but that is what the majority do.

As for you, you assume understanding and thus try to translate that to others, but you present it as a ram butting.

The creator son Michael of this universe, joshaua, and the archangel of Michael, are seperated issues thought they all come from the same source.

You started the title off with "Jesus" to grab attentions, but if you truly cared you might have started another way.


They that would like to believe themselves to be rightous call themselves "CHRISTians", but are more christ stains upon the ground of mankind. Do not follow after them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21656968


For around eight years i'm a Urantia book believer.
Jesus was the incarnation of Michael of Nebadon.

[link to www.urantia.org]
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Interesting to note that Michael is the fourth Angel, which would be Sun/Earth related
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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This video tells all about him:



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It's not important to understand all this in details. Could seem complicate but take what you can.

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Absolutely not. Michael the Archangel serves Jesus. The lamb of God is ruler over all the angels. Michael is an angel. He's not Jesus. This thread is officially stupid.
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this thread is correct, but I don't think OP means what you took it too.


Michael of Nebadon was jesus. AA MIchael is the Arch Angel of the resurrection who is serving MIchael of Nebadon. Michael in revelations is not AA Michael, it is Michael of Nebadon.
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Another Jewhoreakims Wickedness thread.

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"the seed of the woman will bruise the head of the serpent."
I am what I am...
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"That which makes you think that you are a human is not human. It is but a dimensionless point of consciousness, a conscious nothing; all you can say about yourself is: ‘I am’. You are pure being-awareness-bliss. To realize that is the end of all seeking. You come to it when you see all you think yourself to be as a mere imagination and stand aloof in pure awareness of the transient as transient, imaginary as imaginary, unreal as unreal." — Nisargadatta Maharaj

"I do not know what I may appear to the world, but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea shore and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary whilst the great ocean of truth lay undiscovered before me." — Isaac Newton
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I'm of french language. Often my discussion are broke because of that. I think that the Michael in the book of Daniel could be Michael of Nébadon The Great Chief of His Universe of Nebadon. In the UB the more important angel after Michael is Gabriel of Salvington. Is there an archangel named Michael, i'm not sure.
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No Jesus Christ is God your maker.
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No Jesus Christ is God your maker.
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I believe this. He is our maker For His Maker the Universal Father and our Father too. Agree?

Remember that Jesus came on this world to REVEAL The Father.

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(66.2) 5:3.6 The Creator or Sovereign Sons who preside over the destinies of the local universes stand in the place of both the Universal Father and the Eternal Son of Paradise

. These Universe Sons receive, in the name of the Father, the adoration of worship and give ear to the pleas of their petitioning subjects throughout their respective creations

. To the children of a local universe a Michael Son is, to all practical intents and purposes, God. He is the local universe personification of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son

. The Infinite Spirit maintains personal contact with the children of these realms through the Universe Spirits, the administrative and creative associates of the Paradise Creator Sons.

[link to www.urantia.org]



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Jesus is the Son of man hence cannot be an angel:

He then added, I tell you the truth, you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man. John 1:51
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Hebrews 1:1–3 God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets little by little and in many ways in times past. But in these last days he spoke to us in his Son, who has been named heir of everything, and through whom he made the ages. He is the radiance of God's majesty and the exact likeness of his core being, besides holding everything up by his powerful pronouncement. After cleaning away failures, he was seated in the right hand of the Majesty on high, making him far above the angels and inheriting a superior Name.

4–8 After all, when did he ever say to an angel, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father", or, "I will be his Father and he will be my Son"? And when he brings his firstborn into his earthly home, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him"! In fact, about the angels he says, "He makes his angels spirits and his officers flames of fire." But about the Son:

8–14

"God, your throne is eternal and the scepter of your kingdom is righteousness...

You laid down the foundations of the earth in the beginning, Master, and the heavens are the works of your hands..."

Now to which of the angels has he ever declared, "Sit at my right till I make your enemies your footstool"? Are they not all spiritual officials who are commissioned to serve those who are about to inherit salvation?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Jesus is the Son of man hence cannot be an angel:

He then added, I tell you the truth, you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man. John 1:51
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24276364


Michael the Archangel is not an angel. It is another name for Jesus who is chief of the angels.


[link to www.apostolic-churches.net]


Or see the Matthew Henry commentary.
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(66.2) 5:3.6 The Creator or Sovereign Sons who preside over the destinies of the local universes stand in the place of both the Universal Father and the Eternal Son of Paradise

. These Universe Sons receive, in the name of the Father, the adoration of worship and give ear to the pleas of their petitioning subjects throughout their respective creations

. To the children of a local universe a Michael Son is, to all practical intents and purposes, God. He is the local universe personification of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son

. The Infinite Spirit maintains personal contact with the children of these realms through the Universe Spirits, the administrative and creative associates of the Paradise Creator Sons.

[link to www.urantia.org]
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 Quoting: Orange


Uninspired gnostic text. Irrelevant to a Bible discussion.
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No Jesus Christ is God your maker.
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Of course.
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Jesus is the Son of man hence cannot be an angel:

He then added, I tell you the truth, you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man. John 1:51
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24276364


Michael the Archangel is not an angel. It is another name for Jesus who is chief of the angels.


[link to www.apostolic-churches.net]


Or see the Matthew Henry commentary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24821273


Daniel 10:13
But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Jesus is the Son of man hence cannot be an angel:

He then added, I tell you the truth, you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man. John 1:51
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24276364


Michael the Archangel is not an angel. It is another name for Jesus who is chief of the angels.


[link to www.apostolic-churches.net]


Or see the Matthew Henry commentary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24821273


The Son of man is born from water. Unlike the angels. The cheef of angels is an angel, while the Son of man is the Christ among men.
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Is Jesus Michael the Archangel?



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Michael Sons are Creator Sons. They appear as creatures they have created. Michael aka as Yeshua ben Joseph made his 7th bestowal here, the perfect example of how to live. The Urantia Book has many Bible quotes & can be read for a full knowledge of our Universe of Universes.

Less than 100 years ago we only knew of the Milky Way. Since then the Hubble telescope has discovered 2 BILLION Galaxies! The Urantia Book explains this apparent "contradiction" in terms that can be understood. Google it.
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HELL NO

and if you fall for that bullshit you'll be found worshipping satan shortly

when push comes to shove

not an easy cross to bear in the final moments

I can assure you of this
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Absolutely not. Michael the Archangel serves Jesus. The lamb of God is ruler over all the angels. Michael is an angel. He's not Jesus. This thread is officially stupid.
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They get this from sources other than the bible.

Scripture can't be broken. Jesus is in the Father and the Father is in Jesus. They are one. Michael came after Jesus as He was in the beginning with God before anything that was made had been made.

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