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Is Jesus Michael the Archangel?

 
Ace High.

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Give me evidence that either Jesus or Michael existed in historical records.
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There are 1 1/2 billion of christians on the planet.
The New Testament.
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Yeah, there are also a ton of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. The New and Old Testaments are both works of fiction. ZERO historical proof to back it up.
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Give me evidence that either Jesus or Michael existed in historical records.
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There are 1 1/2 billion of christians on the planet.
The New Testament.
 Quoting: Orange


Yeah, there are also a ton of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. The New and Old Testaments are both works of fiction. ZERO historical proof to back it up.
 Quoting: Ace High.


Haha, no history to prove his miracles; the persona has been authecintated by several historians, but it is still a debate.

So, obviously you're not stupid enough to believe in it like everybody else. But you still reflect your stupidity as a man for giving a shit about it knowing its such a ridiculous joke.

Either way even "smart" guys like you are still stupid according to your own logic.
The Self-Annointed Golden Elohim; Israel's Foresaken.
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Give me evidence that either Jesus or Michael existed in historical records.
 Quoting: Ace High.


There are 1 1/2 billion of christians on the planet.
The New Testament.
 Quoting: Orange


Yeah, there are also a ton of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. The New and Old Testaments are both works of fiction. ZERO historical proof to back it up.
 Quoting: Ace High.


Haha, no history to prove his miracles; the persona has been authecintated by several historians, but it is still a debate.

So, obviously you're not stupid enough to believe in it like everybody else. But you still reflect your stupidity as a man for giving a shit about it knowing its such a ridiculous joke.

Either way even "smart" guys like you are still stupid according to your own logic.
 Quoting: HilosPP


I am slightly confused but ok that works xD
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[link to www.christmichaelsglobalspiritualnetwork.com]

THE STATEMENT OF INTENT


The global plan for the expansion of the 'Teaching Mission' of this Fifth (5th) Revelatory Epoch into the new Sixth (6th) Magisterial Epochal Revelation, is to streamline and co-ordinate various planetary spiritual groups and organizations through the Christ Michael's Global Spiritual Network (CMGSN) focusing the global efforts of the celestial Teaching Mission' through the teaching interactions between the super-planetary teacher-hosts and their planetary Transmitter/Receiver (T/R) groups.

"The 'Correcting Time' is conducted through the efforts of mortal beings and the 'Teaching Mission' is conducted by the celestials". (Eregon) ...
Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything.
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THE STATEMENT OF INTENT


The global plan for the expansion of the 'Teaching Mission' of this Fifth (5th) Revelatory Epoch into the new Sixth (6th) Magisterial Epochal Revelation, is to streamline and co-ordinate various planetary spiritual groups and organizations through the Christ Michael's Global Spiritual Network (CMGSN) focusing the global efforts of the celestial Teaching Mission' through the teaching interactions between the super-planetary teacher-hosts and their planetary Transmitter/Receiver (T/R) groups.

"The 'Correcting Time' is conducted through the efforts of mortal beings and the 'Teaching Mission' is conducted by the celestials". (Eregon) ...
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My google translator isn;t working, could you set that to English please?
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Give me evidence that either Jesus or Michael existed in historical records.
 Quoting: Ace High.


There are 1 1/2 billion of christians on the planet.
The New Testament.
 Quoting: Orange


Yeah, there are also a ton of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. The New and Old Testaments are both works of fiction. ZERO historical proof to back it up.
 Quoting: Ace High.


Haha, no history to prove his miracles; the persona has been authecintated by several historians, but it is still a debate.

So, obviously you're not stupid enough to believe in it like everybody else. But you still reflect your stupidity as a man for giving a shit about it knowing its such a ridiculous joke.

Either way even "smart" guys like you are still stupid according to your own logic.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Agree that the "appeal to popularity" is still a fallacy.

Disagree that the Bible is a work of fiction. As one person said, the Bible must be the work of bad men, good men, or God. But it can't be of bad men, because they would not write of their own condemnation. It can't be of good men, because good men would not write "thus saith the Lord". So it must be of God. And there is ample extra-biblical corroboration of its historical accuracy.

Agree that anyone who disbelieves something yet keeps talking about it has "issues". It's like being obsessed with the Easter Bunny: going to message boards to laugh about it and make lists of talking points to use to debunk it, as anti-theists do to theists. I have no interest in Roman Catholicism, Mormonism, Hinduism, paganism, or Zoroastrianism, so I don't spend my days in their message boards or threads, don't make up websites whose purpose is to debunk them, don't get a kick out of eviscerating people who follow them, and don't consider all who believe them idiots or losers.

ADDED: Just as an FYI, I don't take seriously anyone who starts off a comment with "haha".

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Jesse Ventura is Jesus. Michael the Archangel is Danny Bonaducci.
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There are 1 1/2 billion of christians on the planet.
The New Testament.
 Quoting: Orange


Yeah, there are also a ton of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. The New and Old Testaments are both works of fiction. ZERO historical proof to back it up.
 Quoting: Ace High.


Haha, no history to prove his miracles; the persona has been authecintated by several historians, but it is still a debate.

So, obviously you're not stupid enough to believe in it like everybody else. But you still reflect your stupidity as a man for giving a shit about it knowing its such a ridiculous joke.

Either way even "smart" guys like you are still stupid according to your own logic.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Agree that the "appeal to popularity" is still a fallacy.

Disagree that the Bible is a work of fiction. As one person said, the Bible must be the work of bad men, good men, or God. But it can't be of bad men, because they would not write of their own condemnation. It can't be of good men, because good men would not write "thus saith the Lord". So it must be of God. And there is ample extra-biblical corroboration of its historical accuracy.

Agree that anyone who disbelieves something yet keeps talking about it has "issues". It's like being obsessed with the Easter Bunny: going to message boards to laugh about it and make lists of talking points to use to debunk it, as anti-theists do to theists. I have no interest in Roman Catholicism, Mormonism, Hinduism, paganism, or Zoroastrianism, so I don't spend my days in their message boards or threads, don't make up websites whose purpose is to debunk them, don't get a kick out of eviscerating people who follow them, and don't consider all who believe them idiots or losers.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Wait, you don't hang out in those places? Then why exactly are you posting here..? And you're right, it seems pointless to hang around here when I don't believe it just to laugh. But I want to educate people and stop this poison epidemic. It is frightening how many people believe in this stuff. It has resulted in hate and atrocity and I want it gone from society and out of the minds of the children of future generations.
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Wait, you don't hang out in those places? Then why exactly are you posting here..? And you're right, it seems pointless to hang around here when I don't believe it just to laugh. But I want to educate people and stop this poison epidemic. It is frightening how many people believe in this stuff. It has resulted in hate and atrocity and I want it gone from society and out of the minds of the children of future generations.
 Quoting: Ace High.


Excuse me, but is GLP a religion board? Is this thread title "false advertising" since Jesus is generally a CHRISTIAN interest, and Michael is IN THE BIBLE? There are a few who accept the Bible's definition of salvation while also trying to say that Michael is another name for Jesus. So there were no indications at the start that the OP only intended the thread to be about a wacked-out, incomprehensible cult.

Frankly, Ace, I don't care what you want, and who the blazes are you to presume to educate people? And why are you so afraid? Does freedom of speech scare you that much? Why do you think only your views are safe for future generations? Seems pretty arrogant to me.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Wait, you don't hang out in those places? Then why exactly are you posting here..? And you're right, it seems pointless to hang around here when I don't believe it just to laugh. But I want to educate people and stop this poison epidemic. It is frightening how many people believe in this stuff. It has resulted in hate and atrocity and I want it gone from society and out of the minds of the children of future generations.
 Quoting: Ace High.


Excuse me, but is GLP a religion board? Is this thread title "false advertising" since Jesus is generally a CHRISTIAN interest, and Michael is IN THE BIBLE? There are a few who accept the Bible's definition of salvation while also trying to say that Michael is another name for Jesus. So there were no indications at the start that the OP only intended the thread to be about a wacked-out, incomprehensible cult.

Frankly, Ace, I don't care what you want, and who the blazes are you to presume to educate people? And why are you so afraid? Does freedom of speech scare you that much? Why do you think only your views are safe for future generations? Seems pretty arrogant to me.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ehh, I don't blame you, I mean I have my haters ya know. It doesn't really concern me who you are either since this is the internet. So if you want to disapprove of me, that's cool. Oh and by the way, free speech is great, but I also have free speech. Now run along and play with the other kids.
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Ehh, I don't blame you, I mean I have my haters ya know. It doesn't really concern me who you are either since this is the internet. So if you want to disapprove of me, that's cool. Oh and by the way, free speech is great, but I also have free speech. Now run along and play with the other kids.
 Quoting: Ace High.


So you want to protect people from religion but value free speech. Gotcha.

Now run along and throw poo with the other monkeys. (Are we having fun yet?)
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Give me evidence that either Jesus or Michael existed in historical records.
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Wrong thread. This one is about Michael being Jesus or not. Go start your own thread to be humiliated with all the historians of the time recording Jesus' crucifixion, the earthquake, out of season solar eclipse, and the many 1st and 2nd century Christian followers.

Also bring proof for caveman.
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Hmm, this is fascinating. I'll have to show my friends this shit, they'll get a good kick out of it.
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Me too i think YES
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poor forgetful co-creator spirits who think their lowly souls aka beasts who need a master to punish them and train them to be good as they cant let go of the beast/soul back into the sea of forgetfulness and walk out as spirit with the golden rule written within...love your self as you love your neighbor..when we all see our self's as co-creators and equal we find the peace of the spirit within and it will manifest in the creation also..hf
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True true :P
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...the spirit brings truth and peace within and ends silly divisions of beasts who need a master to punish them or save them or devil as scapegoat from their own honest responsibilities to each other...we are to remind our selfs of who we were and are and are to come and rule the creation and not each other...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Give me evidence that either Jesus or Michael existed in historical records.
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There are 1 1/2 billion of christians on the planet.
The New Testament and the Urantia Papers.
 Quoting: Orange
for its written ,There's Nothing New Under The Sun ..therefore theirs not a "new" testament because the same spirit that spoke through "old" testament characters also speaks through " new " testament characters and even today as we are all spirit filled and not soul filled...we are all equal co-creator spirit and there is no one else above us or below us on a pedestal in a heaven or ruling in a hell.hf

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 10/04/2012 07:57 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Give me evidence that either Jesus or Michael existed in historical records.
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There are 1 1/2 billion of christians on the planet.
The New Testament and the Urantia Papers.
 Quoting: Orange
for its written ,There's Nothing New Under The Sun ..therefore theirs not a "new" testament because the same spirit that spoke through "old" testament characters also speaks through " new " testament characters and even today as we are all spirit filled and not soul filled...we are all equal co-creator spirit and there is no one else above us or below us on a pedestal in a heaven or ruling in a hell.hf
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


For two thousand years we have the Spirit of Jesus/Michael with us: The Spirit of Truth that was not on Earth before.

Do you agree?
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Yes, Michael is Yahushua / Jesus

Before Jesus incarnation, Michael was head angel with GOD.
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Michael the archangel is an angel, he is not God. Jesus was never Archangel Michael. Christ (Son of God) is equal with the Father, but Jesus is not equal with Michael. Michael is just an angel, he`s not a god being worshipped. Michael`s level is angel, not God. God is the Creator and Michael is a created angel. This is no way that Michael the archangel could be Jesus. If any person who teaches that Jesus is Michael the archangel is a heretic and a false prophet. Remember, Michael is not Jesus period. This archangel is on a level with angels (created beings). No, Michael the archangel in the scriptures of the Holy Bible, never received worship from anyone. God is worthy of worship and Michael is not. Michael`s duties are angelic not divine. Jesus is a divine being, but Michael isn`t. Still, this heresy is taught by the Jehovah Witnesses: They that Michael the archangel is Jesus, but that is not true: Jesus is God`s Son and Michael is an angel. Don`t put Michael on the same level as God, because that`s not right at all.
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The Truth about Archangel Michael:
1. Michael is an angel, not God!
2. Michael is not Jesus, but only an angel!
3. Michael was never Jesus Christ!
4. Michael is not worthy of worship!
5. Michael is an archangel, not a god!
6. Michael is not divine, but angelic!
7. Michael is not almighty, but immortal
8. Michael is only an angel, he is not on God`s level!
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Michael the archangel is an angel, he is not God. Jesus was never Archangel Michael. Christ (Son of God) is equal with the Father, but Jesus is not equal with Michael. Michael is just an angel, he`s not a god being worshipped. Michael`s level is angel, not God. God is the Creator and Michael is a created angel. This is no way that Michael the archangel could be Jesus. If any person who teaches that Jesus is Michael the archangel is a heretic and a false prophet. Remember, Michael is not Jesus period. This archangel is on a level with angels (created beings). No, Michael the archangel in the scriptures of the Holy Bible, never received worship from anyone. God is worthy of worship and Michael is not. Michael`s duties are angelic not divine. Jesus is a divine being, but Michael isn`t. Still, this heresy is taught by the Jehovah Witnesses: They teach that Michael the archangel is Jesus, but that is not true: Jesus is God`s Son and Michael is an angel. Don`t put Michael on the same level as God, because that`s not right at all.
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Michael is really an angel on the same level as angels. Michael is angelic, not divine!
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The 17 archangels are angels, not gods to be praised:
1. Michael
2. Raphael
3. Uriel
4. Barachiel
5. Jophiel
6. Zophiel
7. Gabriel
8. Haniel
9. Zadkiel
10. Sandalphon
11. Sarachiel
12. Nathanael
13. Miel
14. Sealtiel
15. Metatron
16. Mitatron
17. Cassiel
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no just no!
Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God.
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Jesus is the highest jewish freemasonic initiate who worshipped the same fire as moses and maybe saw a fallen angel working for lucifer in the fire maybe but jesus is a bad guy I would stay away from him for sure and so is his bitch mother mary the handmaid of satan. Remember Our Lady is God and Christ is God and the Holy Ghost is God.
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Jesus is the Son of God, he is not a bad guy. Christ was never evil. Jesus is our Savior and Lord. The Virgin Mary gave birth to a son named Jesus, she was a handmaid used by God to bring His son into the world to save us and the people from our sins and their. Jesus died on the cross for everyone, He is the Redeemer of those who believe in Him. Mary was not a handmaid of Satan. Mary never worked for Satan, period. It is a lie to call Mary a servant of Satan. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin of no forgiveness. If any person who accuses Mary giving birth to a child named Jesus, calling her a handmaid of Satan; Will not be forgiven, because Mary`s child Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit.
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Jesus is the Son of God, he is not a bad guy. Christ was never evil. Jesus is our Savior and Lord. The Virgin Mary gave birth to a son named Jesus, she was a handmaid used by God to bring His son into the world to save us and the people from our sins and their sins. Jesus died on the cross for everyone, He is the Redeemer of those who believe in Him. Mary was not a handmaid of Satan. Mary never worked for Satan, period. It is a lie to call Mary a servant of Satan. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin of no forgiveness. If any person who accuses Mary giving birth to a child named Jesus, calling her a handmaid of Satan; Will not be forgiven, because Mary`s child Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit.
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Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit, from Father God.
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Michael Sons are Creator Sons. They appear as creatures they have created. Michael aka as Yeshua ben Joseph made his 7th bestowal here, the perfect example of how to live. The Urantia Book has many Bible quotes & can be read for a full knowledge of our Universe of Universes.

Less than 100 years ago we only knew of the Milky Way. Since then the Hubble telescope has discovered 2 BILLION Galaxies! The Urantia Book explains this apparent "contradiction" in terms that can be understood. Google it.
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Gallantia is the one you need to be looking for,as he is here now on earth.......sheep
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Gallantia is the one you need to be looking for,as he is here now on earth.......sheep
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What is the matter Orange? the little Lamb got your tongue?......sheep
or would you prefer that the Lion sould feast?

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you may be an angel, but certaintly not one of truth.

first christ doesnt mean (son of god)- it means annointed & we can all become "a" christ

as for your outdated reservations- you're not only the contrary to many of us here...but also the faith of JW's, Mormons & the book of urantia - all of which state otherwise & corroborate what we're telling you.

its the age of aquarius- open your mind, you're merely objecting as this hurts your fragile sensibilities in a name you were raised to accept as savior. now do i condemn your belierfs because no Js in hebrew- its actually yeshua. no i understand you mean jesus. well, understand me, jesus/yeshua/adam is michael. dont fight it, understand there is no distinction. only our own constructs, as per how we interpret the select info (and if lucky, revelation) we receive.

jesus is not offended. nor is this some fallen angel satan endtimes deception. michael is on the side of good, no? his father, like jesus, is YHWH, no?

you're simply holding onto a name as a relic. you want to call michael jesus, or jesus michael, fine. but do not try and condemn others, your brothers/sisters in this family, elohim, otherwise. you're doing more harm than good for this "awakening" movement. its time to fill in the blanks- and we're justly so, the generation to do such.

bless you


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