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PRE-9/11 ASSASSINATION: An Overlooked and VERY Important Event in the 9/11 Chronology. MUST READ!!!

 
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I believe Chandra Levy stumbled upon some of this information. The "official" outcome of her fate is as bogus as the "official" story of 9-11.
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Yeah, good that you mentioned her.
September 11, followed the summer of Chandra Levy. She disappeared after an BDSM affair with Congressman Gary Condit. Condit had a side business selling thoroughbred horses to Saudi princes. IDK how much Osama Bin Laden as into horses, but he was in the Saudi elite and was often seen at falconing events.
The charter flight company that Condit dealt with to transport horses to the Saudi princes was the same one that rented the planes to the Florida flight school that trained the alleged hijackers.
At the time of Chandra Levy's disappearance, there was a suspicion that she had been trafficked to Saudi Arabia along with the thoroughbred horses.
Bush proposed Condit for the first head of DHS but the Chandra scandal was too fresh in the public's mind. Chandra's body was found months later in a Washington park.

There was another young intern in Washington who got too close to the Osama Bin Laden story before 911 and got knifed to death . I can't remember her name. Chandra Levy, as an intern, had some involvement in Public Relations for the execution of Timothy McVeigh.

I have always believed that if the mystery of Chandra's death was ever solved, a huge part of the conspiracy would come to light.
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Here is Chandra Levy's killer:

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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Very interesting.
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Thors Hamster: you've done a superb job with the presentation of your idea's in this thread - I'm still reading thru page 2 and just wanted to say - THANX! It's tough these days finding a click-worthy thread here, but, your threads never fail to shine light in the dark corners.

Top-notch. Great job! Keep it coming!

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I believe Chandra Levy stumbled upon some of this information. The "official" outcome of her fate is as bogus as the "official" story of 9-11.
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Yeah, good that you mentioned her.
September 11, followed the summer of Chandra Levy. She disappeared after an BDSM affair with Congressman Gary Condit. Condit had a side business selling thoroughbred horses to Saudi princes. IDK how much Osama Bin Laden as into horses, but he was in the Saudi elite and was often seen at falconing events.
The charter flight company that Condit dealt with to transport horses to the Saudi princes was the same one that rented the planes to the Florida flight school that trained the alleged hijackers.
At the time of Chandra Levy's disappearance, there was a suspicion that she had been trafficked to Saudi Arabia along with the thoroughbred horses.
Bush proposed Condit for the first head of DHS but the Chandra scandal was too fresh in the public's mind. Chandra's body was found months later in a Washington park.

There was another young intern in Washington who got too close to the Osama Bin Laden story before 911 and got knifed to death . I can't remember her name. Chandra Levy, as an intern, had some involvement in Public Relations for the execution of Timothy McVeigh.

I have always believed that if the mystery of Chandra's death was ever solved, a huge part of the conspiracy would come to light.
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Here is Chandra Levy's killer:

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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can you go "baa baa" any louder?
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I remember all of that and how incredibly evil the Bush Junta was but I still don't believe 9-11 was an inside job.
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Cognative dissonance a little too much for you .... so far? You'll wake up one day and understand. We've been betrayed by psychopaths.

Until then, take a peak here for great *facts* about what happened on 9/11:


[link to www.ae911truth.org]
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I believe Chandra Levy stumbled upon some of this information. The "official" outcome of her fate is as bogus as the "official" story of 9-11.
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Interesting. I suspect she was murdered, also, for reasons other than what we've been told. The "official" story is that she was randomly murdered while jogging in Rock Creek Park. Again, it was all too "tidy". She'd had an affair with Rep. Gary Condit (R) from CA., and she winds up murdered. Hmmmm... Sure, the official story COULD be the truth. But there are far too many attentuating circumstances to accept the official story at face value, especially when affairs with politicians are involved. Digressing for a moment, she was pretty, and had great tits, wow! (Sorry, I'm only human :)).

I recall the big stories in the summer of 2001 were...

*Chandra Levy (ex-aide to Rep. Gary Condit (R) CA) went missing.

*U.S. spy plane collides with Chinese jet fighter, forcing an emergency landing for our spy plane, and, I think, 8 U.S. military personnel were held by the Chinese for questioning for about a week, before being released. The plane was not released, or at least not until MUCH later, after the Chinese had reverse-eingineered its technology.

*Shark attacks in the waters off Florida (yawn lol).

*Airline on-time performance.

Those were the four main topics the media jumped on that summer of 2001, just prior to 9/11.
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I believe Chandra Levy stumbled upon some of this information. The "official" outcome of her fate is as bogus as the "official" story of 9-11.
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Gary Condit and Perry Inhoff as well as a few other people immediately involved with the initial 9-11 commission were all living within one school district of each other in the early sixties. Rogers High, Central, and Hale High schools.
Condit went to school with Johnny Uhles, the chief investigator for Terry Nichols defense of the OKC bombing..who is dead and forgotten. Condits Father was a baptist minister who founded a church on Airport Blvd in Tulsa on basically the same properties as Boeing, Lockheed/McDonnell Douglas.
A Hive industry for the MIC
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oops
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I found an online obit

[link to www.blueknights.org]
"After his retirement he worked as a Private Investigator for Jarvis International Intelligence and operated his own detective agency, Investigative Specialists. Until his death he was the Chief Investigator for the Terry Nichols Defense Team. "

The date of his death in this article I am in conflict with atm. I will confirm with sources that are absolute. I was basing my earlier statements on memory..
:/
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Interesting. I suspect she was murdered, also, for reasons other than what we've been told. The "official" story is that she was randomly murdered while jogging in Rock Creek Park. Again, it was all too "tidy". She'd had an affair with Rep. Gary Condit (R) from CA., and she winds up murdered. Hmmmm... Sure, the official story COULD be the truth. But there are far too many attentuating circumstances to accept the official story at face value, especially when affairs with politicians are involved. Digressing for a moment, she was pretty, and had great tits, wow! (Sorry, I'm only human :)).

I recall the big stories in the summer of 2001 were...

*Chandra Levy (ex-aide to Rep. Gary Condit (R) CA) went missing.

*U.S. spy plane collides with Chinese jet fighter, forcing an emergency landing for our spy plane, and, I think, 8 U.S. military personnel were held by the Chinese for questioning for about a week, before being released. The plane was not released, or at least not until MUCH later, after the Chinese had reverse-eingineered its technology.

*Shark attacks in the waters off Florida (yawn lol).

*Airline on-time performance.

Those were the four main topics the media jumped on that summer of 2001, just prior to 9/11.
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I believe Chandra Levy stumbled upon some of this information. The "official" outcome of her fate is as bogus as the "official" story of 9-11.
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Gary Condit and Perry Inhoff as well as a few other people immediately involved with the initial 9-11 commission were all living within one school district of each other in the early sixties. Rogers High, Central, and Hale High schools.
Condit went to school with Johnny Uhles, the chief investigator for Terry Nichols defense of the OKC bombing..who is dead and forgotten. Condits Father was a baptist minister who founded a church on Airport Blvd in Tulsa on basically the same properties as Boeing, Lockheed/McDonnell Douglas.
A Hive industry for the MIC
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oops
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24522527


I found an online obit

[link to www.blueknights.org]
"After his retirement he worked as a Private Investigator for Jarvis International Intelligence and operated his own detective agency, Investigative Specialists. Until his death he was the Chief Investigator for the Terry Nichols Defense Team. "

The date of his death in this article I am in conflict with atm. I will confirm with sources that are absolute. I was basing my earlier statements on memory..
:/
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I do know for absolute fact that he began to tie in OKC with USS Cole, 93 WTC, the Al Qaeda/cia twists/deveptions etc. within two weeks after 9-11-01 when he suddenly was hospitalized with liver cancer.
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Cheney should be on death row.
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On September 9, 200 (2 days before 9/11), Ahmad Shah Massoud ("The Lion of Panjir") was assassinated. He was an ethnic Tajik from the north of Afghanistan, and had battled the Soviet Union, as well as the Taliban. He was very well respected (even by his enemies) and loved by his allies. He was a coalition builder among the various tribes that constituted the resistance to both the Soviet communist occupation of Afghanistan, and the subsequent Taliban takeover of the country. He was a warrior who led courageously by example, proving his mettle time and time again for over 2 decades. Heavy on charisma, courage, and humility, he was the symbol of an Afghanistan nation, yearning to shed the yoke of oppressive rule, from wherever it came. He was loved like no other leader of his time anywhere in the world.

Suicide bombers, posing as a reporter and a cameraman (with the video camera and battery belt loaded with explosives) killed Massoud while conducting their much sought after interview with him. Tens of thousands of people in Afghanistan turned out to mourn his loss, and dignitaries from foreign nations paid their respects, as well.

Here's the connection to 9/11...

It's my contention (and that of many others) that there was foreknowledge of 9/11, and that roadblocks to its derailment be removed, thus clearing the way for a smooth "new Pearl Harbor" (ala the report "Rebuilding America's Defenses" by the Project for the New American Century), which would allow for neoconservative foreign policy objectives that otherwise would be unattainable.

Most of us have read the reports that an invasion of Afghanistan had been planned earlier in 2001.

Also, most of us recall Vice President Dick Cheney's secret energy meetings of February 2001, which a government watchdog group sued to have the minutes of be made public. The case went to the Supreme Court. Several weeks before the Court was to rule on the case, VP Dick Cheney went duck hunting in Louisiana with Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia for several days. (Gee, I wonder what Cheney discussed with him) Lo and behold, when it came time for the Supreme Court to rule on the case, it ruled that the minutes from VP Dick Cheney's secret energy meetings did NOT have to be made public.

Most of us also recall that, as Governor of Texas, George W. Bush facilitated a meeting between the Taliban government of Afghanistan and American oil interests in Texas in 1998. This meeting was to discuss a proposed pipeline that American oil executives wanted to build through Afghanistan (because they had to skirt Iran due to political considerations and sanctions) from the Caspian Sea Basin down through southern Pakistan and out to the Arabian Sea (Indian Ocean). It was reported that after much wrangling, the American oil delegation gave the Taliban an ultimatum: "We'll either carpet you in gold, or we'll carpet you in bombs." In other words, they made them an offer they couldn't refuse. But the Taliban DID refuse.

With the "new Pearl Harbor" (9/11) approaching, American officials wanted the "climate" in Afghanistan to be as much in our favor as possible. Meaning: American officials wanted an absolute puppet waiting in the wings to take power in Afghanistan, once the inevitable & planned military overthrow of the Taliban occurred. Someone America could control totally and absolutely. That man was/is Hamid Karzai. Prior to 9/11, Hamid Karzai worked for UNOCAL as that company's representative in Afghanistan. Don't be fooled by the tribal attire he wears. He's as much at home in that attire as Jesse Jackson would be wearing the white hood and sheet of the KKK. He's a western (specifically American) puppet.

However, the logical choice to head the new Afghanistan would be Ahmad Shah Massoud. There was no doubt in anyone's mind, if Afghanistan could once again win its freedom, Massoud was far and away the most eligible, credible, respected, loved, and charismatic person to rule Afghanistan. In a country where tribal disputes fractured the people, the National Hero of Afghanistan -- Ahmad Shah Massoud -- was a tried and tested coalition builder, proving his mettle doing so during the Soviet Occupation and the Taliban rule.

However, Massoud presented a problem for American officials in their post-Taliban Afghanistan. Massoud was capable of leading withOUT incredible amounts of foreign aid or military occupation. His life was a resume to assume leadership of the country he loved so much. But American officials needed someone who needed America as much or more than we needed them. Enter Hamid Karzai -- an installed puppet, who, without massive American monetary and military aid, would fall tomorrow, because he's not a well-respected, battle-tested, coalition-building, charismatic Mujahideen hero from past wars of freedom in Afghanistan. American officials wanted someone they could control. Someone who, when American officials said, "Jump!", he'd ask, "How high?" American officials wanted someone who so thoroughly needed American power to prop him up, that he wouldn't put up a fuss when American oil companies wanted to build a pipeline through his country...or re-allow the cultivation of the massive opium crop...or make military incursions into Pakistan...to prospect for valuable minerals like lithium (which is used to make batteries for computers, smart phones and smart pads, and which Afghanistan is loaded with).

The timing was perfect. On September 9, 2001, the two suicide bombers (believing they were doing the Taliban's or al Qaeda's or whomever's will -- all of whom at their highest level work for American intelligence, as they were a creation of American intelligence in the 1980s, and have never stopped being so; but of whom at their lower levels genuinely believe they're engaged in a religious war) assassinated Ahmad Shah Massoud, the Lion of the Panjir (which is the valley in northern Afghanistan where he was from).

Now the stage was set. The Taliban's days were numbered after the soon to be completed 9/11 "terrorist attack". The slate was wiped clean for successor to rule Afghanistan. Hamid Karzai was waiting in the wings. We had our puppet, and his only competition had now been eliminated.

And we've had our way in Afghanistan (vis a vis their government leadership) ever since.
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Here is a link to an entry in the 1998 CONGRESSIONAL record that proves your point that in 1998 there was open public discussion in political circles of the critical need (on the part of UNOCAL and other U.S. oil interests) for an overland route (that would need to cross Afghanistan) for transporting oil out of the Caspian Sea.

1998 – Congressional Testimony About the Caspian Sea Basin, Pipelines, and Securing U.S. Interests In Afghanistan

[link to willyloman.wordpress.com]

This entry in the CONGRESSIONAL record is identified as follows:

U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN
REPUBLICS HEARING BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ASIA AND THE PACIFIC
OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION
FEBRUARY 12, 1998

{part of the testimony of Clinton administration ROBERT W. GEE, ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR POLICY AND INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY}
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What about the assassination attempt on GWBush the morning of 9/11? it was modeled exactly the same as the assassination we are discussing:

September 11, 2001: On the morning of 9/11, President George W. Bush was at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort on Longboat Key, Florida. He woke up around 6:00 AM and prepared for his morning jog. A van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent arrived at the Colony Beach Resort and claimed they had a "poolside" interview with the President. They did not have an appointment and were turned away. It is possible this was an assassination attempt modeled on the one used on anti-Taliban fighter and Northern Alliance military leader Ahmed Massoud two days earlier. The previous April, Massoud addressed the European Parliament and warned of the possibility of al-Qaeda attacking in the West. Longboat Key Fire Marshal Carroll Mooneyhan was reported to have overheard the conversation between the men and the Secret Service, but he later denied the report. The newspaper that reported this, the Longboat Observer, stands by its story. Both Mooneyhan and the Observer reporter were questioned by the Secret Service, but the agency has not commented further. Witnesses have recalled seeing 9/11 hijacker ringleader Mohamed Atta in the Longboat Key Holiday Inn a short distance from where Bush was staying as recently as September 7, the day Bush’s Sarasota appearance was publicly announced.

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The Mystery of Longboat Key
by Daniel Hopsicker
July 29—Venice, FL.

Just three nights before President George W Bush arrived at the swank Colony Resort on Longboat Key on the evening of Sept 10, 2001, Mohamed Atta was staying at a slightly-less tony hotel just two miles down the beach, the Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites—Longboat Key, according to eyewitnesses who contacted the FBI in the immediate aftermath of the attack.

Predictably, the story went nowhere. So too did early wire reports stating that on the day of the attack Sarasota police said the Secret Service interrogated four Sudanese men after getting a tip that the men intended to harm President Bush during his visit to the city.

The incident was found to be "unrelated" to the attacks, the AP reported, and ended in the release of the men.

But these stories are now being resurrected in the wake of recent reports of a possible Longboat Key assassination attempt against Bush on the morning of the terrorist attack, and they are provoking disturbing questions about how much, or how little, Americans have been told about the events surrounding the attack on their country.

In an exclusive interview with the MadCowMorningNews, the bartender at Marty's Pub at the Holiday Inn, Darlene Sieverts said, "Mohamed Atta sat right on that bar stool, drinking rum and coke."

"I didn't have any real interaction with him. A bartender can tell when a customer doesn't want to talk, and he didn't."




"How do you say 'I'll have what he's having?'"

"About fifteen minutes later he was joined by a second man. When I approached (the second man) and asked what he'd like to drink, he indicated that he didn't speak English, and motioned for Atta to intercede. Instead of ordering something for him, Atta asked for the bill," bartender Sieverts told us.

"He left a $20 bill to cover a $4. tab."

Sieverts recollections of spotting on Longboat Key the most cold-blooded killer of the still-young 21st Century—just a few short days before Bush's arrival—were confirmed to the FBI by other hotel employees, several of whom also recalled seeing Atta on another occasion, dining in the hotel's Gulfstream restaurant with a man identified by the restaurant manager and a waiter as Marwan Al-shehhi.

The two both dined on the hotel’s featured 'Surf & Turf' buffet.

The revelation of Atta's proximity to Bush, first reported in the local Longboat Observer, deepens the mystery surrounding the pre-dawn warning received by the Secret Service detail protecting the President on his Florida trip in the early morning hours on Sept 11.

Alarmingly, The Colony, which bills itself as "the nation's no. 1 tennis resort," is just two miles of mostly-deserted white sand away from the Holiday Inn Hotel frequented by Atta and Al-shehhi.

Longboat Key is located just outside Sarasota, Fl., itself the home of such curious attractions as the Ringling Bros. Circus, and Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, now running for Congress, the local daughter of a citrus magnate who became internationally-famous overnight in the aftermath of the Presidential election of 2000.

Bush was in Florida to promote his administration's new education bill. His first stop of the day was to be at the Emma E Booker Elementary School in Sarasota—a 25-minute drive from the Colony.


"Four Sudanese men? In Sarasota?"

In the warning, Zainelabdeen Omer, a Sudanese national who has since disappeared, told authorities of an immediate threat of a possible assassination attempt and terror attack on America from a friend of his, a man named "Ghandi" who had just arrived in Sarasota to bail someone out of jail.

To bring the day's chronology into focus, a little after 6am on September 11, 2001, according to an AP report, "Bush awoke in the magnificent surroundings of the Colony Beach Resort on Longboat Key, an upscale and relatively-pristine tropical island enclave located directly on the Gulf of Mexico a spindly coral island in the Gulf of Mexico, off Sarasota, Florida."

"The previous evening Mr Bush had dined beachside with his brother Jeb, the governor of Florida, the state that had controversially handed him the presidency. Now, on the morning of his 234th day in office, a light, warm breeze was slipping in from the ocean, and, after breakfast, Bush led his Secret Service crew on a four-mile run around the nearby Serenoa golf links."

"On his return to the Colony, the President showered, changed into a lightweight, dark blue suit, and, still glowing from the morning's exertion, sat down for the first routine intelligence briefing of the day. It was 8am."

"At the same time Atta, was fourteen hundred miles away, making his way onto American Airlines Flight 11 taking off from Boston's Logan International Airport, followed 14 minutes later from the same airport by Al-Shehhi, aboard United Airlines Flight 175."




"No van, no warning? No problem."

The AP story neglects any mention of a van filled with Middle Eastern men attempting to gain access to the President at the same time as Bush is leaving for his morning jog.

And although the story was reported on the local NBC affiliate, the AP also neglects any mention of the pre-dawn warning of an attack.

Instead, the AP's account of Bush briefing that morning states that "The President's briefing appears to have included some reference to the heightened terrorist risk reported throughout the summer, but contained nothing specific, severe or imminent enough to necessitate a call to Condoleezza Rice, his 47-year-old National Security Adviser.

The FBI, too, seemed unimpressed.

"Nationwide the FBI has received over 200,00 such tips, stated FBI spokesman Sarah Oakes, "with more than 5000 of the tips coming into the Tampa office alone."




"Mum's the word in Florida"

Unlike whistleblowers who have come forward in the FBI's Minneapolis and Phoenix offices, to name just two, agents in the Tampa FBI office have maintained their silence.

So too have agents in the Sarasota FBI office.

Does their silence signal valid national security concerns? Or just embarrassment?

Atta and Al-Shehhi's presence on Longboat Key just days before the President's arrival raise a number of disturbing questions.

The most pressing is also the most obvious. What were terrorists doing on Longboat Key?

Still, the Secret Service, no doubt very aware of Atta's suspicious presence on Longboat Key, has dismissed the pre-dawn warning they received as "just coincidence."

This must mean that when, three days later, a van filled with Middle Eastern men attempted to gain entry to Bush's hotel by posing as journalists, it has nothing at all to do with "terrorist ringleader" Mohamed Atta's recent presence on Longboat Key.

It is all just a coincidence.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

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A van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent had pulled up to the Colony stating they had a “poolside” interview with the president. The self-proclaimed reporters then asked for a Secret Service agent by name. Guards from security relayed the request to the receptionist, who had not heard of either the agent or plans for an interview. The receptionist gave the phone over to a nearby Secret Service agent who also was unwarned of any agent by that name or any planned poolside interview. The agent told the occupants of the van to contact the president’s public relations office in Washington, D.C. and turned them away from the premises. The reported incident is significant due to the fact that Ahmed Shah Massoud, leader of the Afghan Northern Alliance was assassinated in northern Afghanistan two days earlier on September 9 by two Al-Qaeda agents posing as reporters. During the interview they ignited their video camera that was filled with explosives killing themselves and severely wounding Massoud who died later.

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Bush was ABSOLUTELY meant to die that day ... but unlike 3 out of 4 planes hitting the target, somethings don't always go according to plan:


WT: Look, this is a forgotten clue of 9/11, which seems to me is the most important, because this is when the invisible government speaks. You may remember that at one point during the morning, 10:00 probably on 9/11, a death threat against Bush came into the Secret Service, saying, Angel is next. It essentially means, Air Force One will be shot down as the next step in these developments.

SNIP

‘Angel is next.’ Implies the top-secret codename or codeword for the Presidential aircraft, Air Force One. I go into intelligence agency reports, now let me just make a parenthesis, (9/11 didn’t occur in a vacuum, it occurs in a world in which there are others watching. Who’s watching? Well, Russia’s watching, Israel’s watching very much, the French are watching, there’s Germans, Japan…), what I found is 3 separate reports, one is the Réseau Voltaire which is obviously benefiting from leaks from French intelligence. The Réseau Voltaire version, which came out September 20th (or) 25th, says that the ‘Angel is next.’ phone call came complete with top secret codeword, across a variety of agencies, suggesting that the people that were behind the attacks were a powerful faction inside the US intelligence community and government in general.

And that secondly, they had the nuclear launch codes in their possession. This report goes on to say that the Bush team thought during most of the day, that they were the target of a military coup. And it was only somehow later in the day that the situation was recomposed. Now what would it mean?

Essentially it means that the invisible government force behind 9/11 tells Bush that he must respond by stating that its Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, the Arabs, the Islamic world, and that what’s gonna happen is the invasion of Afghanistan, and above all the beginning of the ‘war of civilizations’ that Samuel Huntington writes about. An open-ended aggression of the United States against the Arab and Islamic world.
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very good thread!

Who killed John O'Neill?



and on The Path to 9/11

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He was working with the CIA. In return for payments (which were minimal at best) he allowed American operatives to set up intel monitoring devices to track Osama and Al-qaeda's movement in Afghanistan. He was not a fan of the United States, but he hated the taliban even more. He was hoping for more support to get them out of country.

The devil is in the details and even in this, finger pointing and convoluted truths mixed with lies cast a mystery over the reason he was killed.

Some assert he was killed as a 'gift' to Osama by radical islamists. (half truth)
Some say the Pakistan ISI were involved. (false)
Some say the Americans. (false)
Some say Taliban. (half truth)

Make no mistake my friends, Al qaeda and Osama did the hit after the Lion sent a group of men on donkeys to launch an attack on a terrorist training camp. Osama was present, but he was unhurt, and was incredibly pist off.

They (osama et al) were busy with the business of a revolving door terrorist training of others from out of country and hatching plans to attack the infidels and Massoud was a threat on several levels.

He was a fav of the people, pro democracy, Northern Alliance and enemy of the Taliban, who incidently were Osamas most gracious host. He fed info to the CIA and as it got closer to the grand attack more and more sensitive intel was being gathered putting al qaedas plan at risk. The hit was supposed to happen a several weeks before it did.

Taking him out meant an ousting American operatives in country offering them no safe haven from which to work. The Taliban was down with the plan as it gave them the entire country.

As the trasition of government took place in American, intel was lost, overlooked, and shuffled about like annoying puzzle pieces.

The United States did not kill him.

The assasins were caught, charged, tried and convicted.
North African of origin I believe..I recall something about Algeria, Belgium and France.

There's so much more to tell, but so little time right now.

Keep digging you guys. You're getting closer to the truth..Don't eat the first tidbit you find though, the real tastey stuff is deeper, you've got to work for it...but..

But whatever, it's much easier to blame the USA.
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A senior rebel commander got killed in a war, therefore 9/11 was an inside job. Even by GLP standards that is pretty thin.
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Great post OP. I was not aware of that info. Thanks for shedding the light on it.
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I believe Chandra Levy stumbled upon some of this information. The "official" outcome of her fate is as bogus as the "official" story of 9-11.
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Yeah, good that you mentioned her.
September 11, followed the summer of Chandra Levy. She disappeared after an BDSM affair with Congressman Gary Condit. Condit had a side business selling thoroughbred horses to Saudi princes. IDK how much Osama Bin Laden as into horses, but he was in the Saudi elite and was often seen at falconing events.
The charter flight company that Condit dealt with to transport horses to the Saudi princes was the same one that rented the planes to the Florida flight school that trained the alleged hijackers.
At the time of Chandra Levy's disappearance, there was a suspicion that she had been trafficked to Saudi Arabia along with the thoroughbred horses.
Bush proposed Condit for the first head of DHS but the Chandra scandal was too fresh in the public's mind. Chandra's body was found months later in a Washington park.

There was another young intern in Washington who got too close to the Osama Bin Laden story before 911 and got knifed to death . I can't remember her name. Chandra Levy, as an intern, had some involvement in Public Relations for the execution of Timothy McVeigh.

I have always believed that if the mystery of Chandra's death was ever solved, a huge part of the conspiracy would come to light.
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Here is Chandra Levy's killer:

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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can you go "baa baa" any louder?
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Geez...the killer had a background of sexual assaults, and other female joggers who were attacked in that park identified him. He even admitted to his prison cellmate that he killed her. Sheesh! Does everything have to be a conspiracy?
[link to www.livesecure.org]
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A senior rebel commander got killed in a war, therefore 9/11 was an inside job. Even by GLP standards that is pretty thin.
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Pssssst! Hey buddy,...

911 was/is/willalwayshavebeen,...

An INside PNAC job.


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I believe Chandra Levy stumbled upon some of this information. The "official" outcome of her fate is as bogus as the "official" story of 9-11.
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Yeah, good that you mentioned her.
September 11, followed the summer of Chandra Levy. She disappeared after an BDSM affair with Congressman Gary Condit. Condit had a side business selling thoroughbred horses to Saudi princes. IDK how much Osama Bin Laden as into horses, but he was in the Saudi elite and was often seen at falconing events.
The charter flight company that Condit dealt with to transport horses to the Saudi princes was the same one that rented the planes to the Florida flight school that trained the alleged hijackers.
At the time of Chandra Levy's disappearance, there was a suspicion that she had been trafficked to Saudi Arabia along with the thoroughbred horses.
Bush proposed Condit for the first head of DHS but the Chandra scandal was too fresh in the public's mind. Chandra's body was found months later in a Washington park.

There was another young intern in Washington who got too close to the Osama Bin Laden story before 911 and got knifed to death . I can't remember her name. Chandra Levy, as an intern, had some involvement in Public Relations for the execution of Timothy McVeigh.

I have always believed that if the mystery of Chandra's death was ever solved, a huge part of the conspiracy would come to light.
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She handled media inquiries:

"As part of her final semester of study, Levy moved to Washington, D.C., to become a paid intern with the Federal Bureau of Prisons. In October 2000, she began her internship at the bureau's central office, where she was assigned to the public affairs division. Her supervisor, bureau spokesperson Dan Dunne, was impressed with Levy's work, especially her handling of media inquiries regarding the upcoming execution of Timothy McVeigh.

In January 2001, she told her landlord that she was considering breaking the lease of her apartment at Dupont Circle to move in with a boyfriend, but changed her mind by the following month because "it didn't work out."

Levy's internship was abruptly terminated in April 2001, because her academic eligibility was found to have expired in December 2000. She had already completed her master's degree requirements and was scheduled to return to California in May 2001 for graduation."

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Yeah, good that you mentioned her.
September 11, followed the summer of Chandra Levy. She disappeared after an BDSM affair with Congressman Gary Condit. Condit had a side business selling thoroughbred horses to Saudi princes. IDK how much Osama Bin Laden as into horses, but he was in the Saudi elite and was often seen at falconing events.
The charter flight company that Condit dealt with to transport horses to the Saudi princes was the same one that rented the planes to the Florida flight school that trained the alleged hijackers.
At the time of Chandra Levy's disappearance, there was a suspicion that she had been trafficked to Saudi Arabia along with the thoroughbred horses.
Bush proposed Condit for the first head of DHS but the Chandra scandal was too fresh in the public's mind. Chandra's body was found months later in a Washington park.

There was another young intern in Washington who got too close to the Osama Bin Laden story before 911 and got knifed to death . I can't remember her name. Chandra Levy, as an intern, had some involvement in Public Relations for the execution of Timothy McVeigh.

I have always believed that if the mystery of Chandra's death was ever solved, a huge part of the conspiracy would come to light.
 Quoting: Corporal Klinger 21903530


Here is Chandra Levy's killer:

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24167397


can you go "baa baa" any louder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24522527


Geez...the killer had a background of sexual assaults, and other female joggers who were attacked in that park identified him. He even admitted to his prison cellmate that he killed her. Sheesh! Does everything have to be a conspiracy?
[link to www.livesecure.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24167397


You have no idea who you are talking to.
.....so shove that in your pipe and smoke it...
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one day we will take seriously such work, sir
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I believe the assassin was posing as a photographer/filmographer.

Another important item to consider
(my humble opinion of course) is that the same damn thing happened to the beloved opposition leader in Afghanistan, Benazir Bhutto. She was all set to dethrone the western alliance puppet when she flew back to Pakistan, was driven in an open-air tops down motorcade, only to be assassinated in front of 100's of thousands of followers. The Busheez/Dick puppet was General Pervez Musharraf, taking big billion-dollar donations to let western alliance blow the hell out of neighboring Afghanistan, and his own country-Pakistan's western border and in the mountains.

The murder of Bhutto, one of Pakistan's most famous and enduring politicians, sparked violence that killed at least nine people and plunged efforts to restore democracy to the nuclear-armed busheez/dick ally into turmoil. The assassin conveniently blew himself up, along with 20 or so others.

Bhutto was sure to win, knew she could be killed at any moment, said so on more than one occasion, traveled and spoke in the U.S. constantly, but would not be anyone's puppet. Taking that stand is often fatal.

Bhutto returned to Pakistan after a decade in exile hoping to reach a co-presidency arrangement with Musharraf, or perhaps be head of a position equal to U.S. Secretary of State clinkton, but soon after her return, she became a fierce critic to Musharaf and the ruling party, accusing Musharraf and the ISE (like U.S. CIA) of backing the militants that wanted to kill her. and that was the end of her time here on earth.
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OP...
I remember driving to work on the morning of September 11th and hearing that story on NPR. It stayed with me at the time and I always knew in my soul that there was a connection and foul play at hand. Thank you for your post. Good investigative journalism.
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Thanks OP. Great info. The only problem I have is that it is now well known that it was IMPOSSIBLE for the US to have" let it happen." The evidence is now overwhelming that they had to do it...period. There was no letting it happen.
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Thanks :) I agree with you. It goes beyond simply "letting it happen". It was coordinated by certain elements within certain ideological circles that are entrenched in the intelligence, military, and political realms.
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Thors Hamster: you've done a superb job with the presentation of your idea's in this thread - I'm still reading thru page 2 and just wanted to say - THANX! It's tough these days finding a click-worthy thread here, but, your threads never fail to shine light in the dark corners.

Top-notch. Great job! Keep it coming!

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Thank you. Much appreciated. :)
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What about the assassination attempt on GWBush the morning of 9/11? it was modeled exactly the same as the assassination we are discussing:

September 11, 2001: On the morning of 9/11, President George W. Bush was at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort on Longboat Key, Florida. He woke up around 6:00 AM and prepared for his morning jog. A van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent arrived at the Colony Beach Resort and claimed they had a "poolside" interview with the President. They did not have an appointment and were turned away. It is possible this was an assassination attempt modeled on the one used on anti-Taliban fighter and Northern Alliance military leader Ahmed Massoud two days earlier. The previous April, Massoud addressed the European Parliament and warned of the possibility of al-Qaeda attacking in the West. Longboat Key Fire Marshal Carroll Mooneyhan was reported to have overheard the conversation between the men and the Secret Service, but he later denied the report. The newspaper that reported this, the Longboat Observer, stands by its story. Both Mooneyhan and the Observer reporter were questioned by the Secret Service, but the agency has not commented further. Witnesses have recalled seeing 9/11 hijacker ringleader Mohamed Atta in the Longboat Key Holiday Inn a short distance from where Bush was staying as recently as September 7, the day Bush’s Sarasota appearance was publicly announced.

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The Mystery of Longboat Key
by Daniel Hopsicker
July 29—Venice, FL.

Just three nights before President George W Bush arrived at the swank Colony Resort on Longboat Key on the evening of Sept 10, 2001, Mohamed Atta was staying at a slightly-less tony hotel just two miles down the beach, the Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites—Longboat Key, according to eyewitnesses who contacted the FBI in the immediate aftermath of the attack.

Predictably, the story went nowhere. So too did early wire reports stating that on the day of the attack Sarasota police said the Secret Service interrogated four Sudanese men after getting a tip that the men intended to harm President Bush during his visit to the city.

The incident was found to be "unrelated" to the attacks, the AP reported, and ended in the release of the men.

But these stories are now being resurrected in the wake of recent reports of a possible Longboat Key assassination attempt against Bush on the morning of the terrorist attack, and they are provoking disturbing questions about how much, or how little, Americans have been told about the events surrounding the attack on their country.

In an exclusive interview with the MadCowMorningNews, the bartender at Marty's Pub at the Holiday Inn, Darlene Sieverts said, "Mohamed Atta sat right on that bar stool, drinking rum and coke."

"I didn't have any real interaction with him. A bartender can tell when a customer doesn't want to talk, and he didn't."




"How do you say 'I'll have what he's having?'"

"About fifteen minutes later he was joined by a second man. When I approached (the second man) and asked what he'd like to drink, he indicated that he didn't speak English, and motioned for Atta to intercede. Instead of ordering something for him, Atta asked for the bill," bartender Sieverts told us.

"He left a $20 bill to cover a $4. tab."

Sieverts recollections of spotting on Longboat Key the most cold-blooded killer of the still-young 21st Century—just a few short days before Bush's arrival—were confirmed to the FBI by other hotel employees, several of whom also recalled seeing Atta on another occasion, dining in the hotel's Gulfstream restaurant with a man identified by the restaurant manager and a waiter as Marwan Al-shehhi.

The two both dined on the hotel’s featured 'Surf & Turf' buffet.

The revelation of Atta's proximity to Bush, first reported in the local Longboat Observer, deepens the mystery surrounding the pre-dawn warning received by the Secret Service detail protecting the President on his Florida trip in the early morning hours on Sept 11.

Alarmingly, The Colony, which bills itself as "the nation's no. 1 tennis resort," is just two miles of mostly-deserted white sand away from the Holiday Inn Hotel frequented by Atta and Al-shehhi.

Longboat Key is located just outside Sarasota, Fl., itself the home of such curious attractions as the Ringling Bros. Circus, and Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, now running for Congress, the local daughter of a citrus magnate who became internationally-famous overnight in the aftermath of the Presidential election of 2000.

Bush was in Florida to promote his administration's new education bill. His first stop of the day was to be at the Emma E Booker Elementary School in Sarasota—a 25-minute drive from the Colony.


"Four Sudanese men? In Sarasota?"

In the warning, Zainelabdeen Omer, a Sudanese national who has since disappeared, told authorities of an immediate threat of a possible assassination attempt and terror attack on America from a friend of his, a man named "Ghandi" who had just arrived in Sarasota to bail someone out of jail.

To bring the day's chronology into focus, a little after 6am on September 11, 2001, according to an AP report, "Bush awoke in the magnificent surroundings of the Colony Beach Resort on Longboat Key, an upscale and relatively-pristine tropical island enclave located directly on the Gulf of Mexico a spindly coral island in the Gulf of Mexico, off Sarasota, Florida."

"The previous evening Mr Bush had dined beachside with his brother Jeb, the governor of Florida, the state that had controversially handed him the presidency. Now, on the morning of his 234th day in office, a light, warm breeze was slipping in from the ocean, and, after breakfast, Bush led his Secret Service crew on a four-mile run around the nearby Serenoa golf links."

"On his return to the Colony, the President showered, changed into a lightweight, dark blue suit, and, still glowing from the morning's exertion, sat down for the first routine intelligence briefing of the day. It was 8am."

"At the same time Atta, was fourteen hundred miles away, making his way onto American Airlines Flight 11 taking off from Boston's Logan International Airport, followed 14 minutes later from the same airport by Al-Shehhi, aboard United Airlines Flight 175."




"No van, no warning? No problem."

The AP story neglects any mention of a van filled with Middle Eastern men attempting to gain access to the President at the same time as Bush is leaving for his morning jog.

And although the story was reported on the local NBC affiliate, the AP also neglects any mention of the pre-dawn warning of an attack.

Instead, the AP's account of Bush briefing that morning states that "The President's briefing appears to have included some reference to the heightened terrorist risk reported throughout the summer, but contained nothing specific, severe or imminent enough to necessitate a call to Condoleezza Rice, his 47-year-old National Security Adviser.

The FBI, too, seemed unimpressed.

"Nationwide the FBI has received over 200,00 such tips, stated FBI spokesman Sarah Oakes, "with more than 5000 of the tips coming into the Tampa office alone."




"Mum's the word in Florida"

Unlike whistleblowers who have come forward in the FBI's Minneapolis and Phoenix offices, to name just two, agents in the Tampa FBI office have maintained their silence.

So too have agents in the Sarasota FBI office.

Does their silence signal valid national security concerns? Or just embarrassment?

Atta and Al-Shehhi's presence on Longboat Key just days before the President's arrival raise a number of disturbing questions.

The most pressing is also the most obvious. What were terrorists doing on Longboat Key?

Still, the Secret Service, no doubt very aware of Atta's suspicious presence on Longboat Key, has dismissed the pre-dawn warning they received as "just coincidence."

This must mean that when, three days later, a van filled with Middle Eastern men attempted to gain entry to Bush's hotel by posing as journalists, it has nothing at all to do with "terrorist ringleader" Mohamed Atta's recent presence on Longboat Key.

It is all just a coincidence.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

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A van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent had pulled up to the Colony stating they had a “poolside” interview with the president. The self-proclaimed reporters then asked for a Secret Service agent by name. Guards from security relayed the request to the receptionist, who had not heard of either the agent or plans for an interview. The receptionist gave the phone over to a nearby Secret Service agent who also was unwarned of any agent by that name or any planned poolside interview. The agent told the occupants of the van to contact the president’s public relations office in Washington, D.C. and turned them away from the premises. The reported incident is significant due to the fact that Ahmed Shah Massoud, leader of the Afghan Northern Alliance was assassinated in northern Afghanistan two days earlier on September 9 by two Al-Qaeda agents posing as reporters. During the interview they ignited their video camera that was filled with explosives killing themselves and severely wounding Massoud who died later.

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Bush was ABSOLUTELY meant to die that day ... but unlike 3 out of 4 planes hitting the target, somethings don't always go according to plan:


WT: Look, this is a forgotten clue of 9/11, which seems to me is the most important, because this is when the invisible government speaks. You may remember that at one point during the morning, 10:00 probably on 9/11, a death threat against Bush came into the Secret Service, saying, Angel is next. It essentially means, Air Force One will be shot down as the next step in these developments.

SNIP

‘Angel is next.’ Implies the top-secret codename or codeword for the Presidential aircraft, Air Force One. I go into intelligence agency reports, now let me just make a parenthesis, (9/11 didn’t occur in a vacuum, it occurs in a world in which there are others watching. Who’s watching? Well, Russia’s watching, Israel’s watching very much, the French are watching, there’s Germans, Japan…), what I found is 3 separate reports, one is the Réseau Voltaire which is obviously benefiting from leaks from French intelligence. The Réseau Voltaire version, which came out September 20th (or) 25th, says that the ‘Angel is next.’ phone call came complete with top secret codeword, across a variety of agencies, suggesting that the people that were behind the attacks were a powerful faction inside the US intelligence community and government in general.

And that secondly, they had the nuclear launch codes in their possession. This report goes on to say that the Bush team thought during most of the day, that they were the target of a military coup. And it was only somehow later in the day that the situation was recomposed. Now what would it mean?

Essentially it means that the invisible government force behind 9/11 tells Bush that he must respond by stating that its Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, the Arabs, the Islamic world, and that what’s gonna happen is the invasion of Afghanistan, and above all the beginning of the ‘war of civilizations’ that Samuel Huntington writes about. An open-ended aggression of the United States against the Arab and Islamic world.
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Excellent post! Yes, that's another much-neglected news story. In the early morning of 9/11, a van of "middle eastern looking men" pulled up to the resort (which has since closed down) in Sarasota, FL where President Bush was staying, and told the guard they were there to interview Bush. The guard checked and saw no mention of this in his papers, so the van was sent away.

You could very well be correct in saying that President Bush was meant to be eliminated that morning. Here's the thing about that. If that was the case, that doesn't necessarily translate into: "9/11 wasn't an inside job. It was, indeed, fundamentalist muslims, as we've been told."

On the contrary, it reminds me of the President Reagan assassination attempt in 1981, just 3 months into his Presidency. Here's why. We have to look at "Cui Bono?" ("Who benefits?"). In the case of the Reagan assassination attempt (where the bullet came mere centimeters from hitting his heart and killing him), President George Herbert Walker Bush (#41) would've benefitted (having been Reagan's VP, and hence, next in line of succession). In the case of the Sept. 11, 2001 ostensible "plot" in Sarasota that morning to "interview" President George W. Bush (#43), Cheney would've benefitted (having been Bush's VP, and hence, next in line of succession).

But here's where people make an error, in my opinion. In the above scenarios, it's not to say that VP George H.W. Bush (#41) or VP Dick Cheney ordered (or even had anything to do with) the assassination attempts. Rather, what it DOES mean is that each man's ideology and connections and business considerations were well known to those in the circles they ran in. In other words, an ideological group who agreed with VP Bush's (in 1981) and VP Cheney's (in 2001) ideology would understand that eliminating the Presidents under which they served, would allow these VPs to become President and implement policies which were not only amenable, but WANTED, by this ideological group.

Bush 41 was a businessman, CIA Director, Texas oil man, heavily invested in the military industrial complex. Everyone knew where his loyalties were, and hence, what policies he'd implement if he rose to the presidency. (It turns out, he implemented these policies ANYWAY as VP, along with his ideological cohorts like Ollie North, John Poindexter, Elliot Abrams, William Casey, etc., in the Iran-Contra Affair behind President Reagan's back.

Same with Cheney. Cheney had been CEO of Halliburton throughout most of the 1990s. He was a friend of oil and the military industrial complex. So it was known where his loyalties were and what policies he'd implement if he ascended to the presidency. Pretty much, most of those policies WERE, in fact, implemented even with Cheney as VP. He had President Bush's ear (at least for the first term). In the second term, after Iraq didn't go quite as planned, President Bush, imo, became much more wary of Cheney's advice. Cheney was pressuring Bush to attack Iran in the latter days of the Bush Administration. Bush wouldn't do it. I think Bush's pardoning but not exonerating of "Scooter" Libby (real name: Irving Lewis Liebowitz), Cheney's chief of staff, was an indirect way for Bush to strike back a little bit at Cheney. The last year or two of the Administration, Bush and Cheney were a bit at odds with one another. I doubt they talk much these days.

To make a long story short: People in a position to pay others to carry out these assassination attempts knew, and supported and wanted, the policies they knew the VPs would implement if they ascended to power. I find it interesting, also, that both President Reagan's assassination attempt and President George W. Bush's Sarasota "episode" were done within the first year of their Presidency, thus giving their successor nearly a full unelected term as President to implement policy. Lord knows Cheney would be completely unelectable as President himself. And none of this would be predicated upon either VP Bush41 or VP Cheney ordering, or even KNOWING about, these attempts to bring them (their ideology) to power.
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A senior rebel commander got killed in a war, therefore 9/11 was an inside job. Even by GLP standards that is pretty thin.
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Not at all. As I said in a previous post, this event is but one in of a myriad of events that played out all too nicely for certain western interests in a post-Taliban Afghanistan. You need to understand the political (read: tribal) dynamic of Afghanistan to understand how important a figure Ahmad Shah Massoud was...and like another poster importantly commented, Abdul Haq, assassinated on Oct 26, 2001.
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I believe the assassin was posing as a photographer/filmographer.

Another important item to consider
(my humble opinion of course) is that the same damn thing happened to the beloved opposition leader in Afghanistan, Benazir Bhutto. She was all set to dethrone the western alliance puppet when she flew back to Pakistan, was driven in an open-air tops down motorcade, only to be assassinated in front of 100's of thousands of followers. The Busheez/Dick puppet was General Pervez Musharraf, taking big billion-dollar donations to let western alliance blow the hell out of neighboring Afghanistan, and his own country-Pakistan's western border and in the mountains.

The murder of Bhutto, one of Pakistan's most famous and enduring politicians, sparked violence that killed at least nine people and plunged efforts to restore democracy to the nuclear-armed busheez/dick ally into turmoil. The assassin conveniently blew himself up, along with 20 or so others.

Bhutto was sure to win, knew she could be killed at any moment, said so on more than one occasion, traveled and spoke in the U.S. constantly, but would not be anyone's puppet. Taking that stand is often fatal.

Bhutto returned to Pakistan after a decade in exile hoping to reach a co-presidency arrangement with Musharraf, or perhaps be head of a position equal to U.S. Secretary of State clinkton, but soon after her return, she became a fierce critic to Musharaf and the ruling party, accusing Musharraf and the ISE (like U.S. CIA) of backing the militants that wanted to kill her. and that was the end of her time here on earth.
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I think you're exactly right. The systematic elimination of independent leaders who refuse to kow-tow to American interests (if those interests aren't in the interests of Pakistan or Afghanistan), leaving only puppets remaning, who are dependent on American aid -- money and military -- to prop themselves up; in return, giving the U.S. most all of what it wants.
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A senior rebel commander got killed in a war, therefore 9/11 was an inside job. Even by GLP standards that is pretty thin.
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Let me add one more thing...

There are so many "fronts" in the investigation of 9/11. So many facets -- military, intelligence, economic, political, social....but so many of these things CAME TOGETHER/culminated in 9/11. It was all too "tidy".
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Re: PRE-9/11 ASSASSINATION: An Overlooked and VERY Important Event in the 9/11 Chronology. MUST READ!!!
Two separate branches of government colluding to trick the American people, couldn't happen?
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A Predatory Species of Human Animals Have Created A System That Gives Them Power & Control Over All Others.
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