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Key set available for $150 on eBay provides an all-access pass to NYC

 
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aren't the numbers on the key the 'cut number' for that key?
just go to any lock smith with type of key and number
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10/02/2012 12:37 PM
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aren't the numbers on the key the 'cut number' for that key?
just go to any lock smith with type of key and number
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No, they are all special keys, and not the type sold to the public, but of course, any licensed locksmith will have access to them from their suppliers.
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10/02/2012 12:38 PM
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Anybody can buy fire brigade keys in the UK

Like these (no affiliation just the top link on google)

[link to www.walkerlocksmiths.co.uk]

Loads on ebay too
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10/02/2012 12:40 PM
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BTW all handcuffs use the same key.
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aren't the numbers on the key the 'cut number' for that key?
just go to any lock smith with type of key and number
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No, they are all special keys, and not the type sold to the public, but of course, any licensed locksmith will have access to them from their suppliers.
 Quoting: WatchmenOnTheWall


My point was they shouldn't have had those pictures of the keys printed!!!!
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10/02/2012 02:00 PM
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i have the master key of the pentagon. just 50 bucks
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Re: Key set available for $150 on eBay provides an all-access pass to NYC
This man has the keys to the city — and he’s selling them for a measly 150 bucks.

If the wrong person buys a set, we could all be in trouble.

Retired New Jersey locksmith Daniel Ferraris, 69, is hawking what he calls a “firemen’s key ring” — and what a terrorist might call a dream come true.


The set consists of five keys that would allow control of virtually any elevator in the city, could knock out power to municipal buildings and skyscrapers, darken city streets, open subway gates and some firehouse doors and provide full access to 1 World Trade Center and other construction sites.


[link to www.nypost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24804695


And thank you to the NY Post for posting a copy of the keys in an image. Now I don't even need to buy a copy as I can manufacture them on my 3D printer from the nice clean image.

Thanks guys! Saved me $150.... LOLOLOLOLOL
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how id you know what SIZE they were to duplicate??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9757217


They are standard sized keys.

For example, a KW1 key is a KW1 key, most likely you even have a KW1 key on your keychain. Good look.
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10/02/2012 02:07 PM
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Wonder if they'll open the door to his cell in Federal Pound-me-in-the-ass Prison, which is where he'll likely end up on some kind of charges.
 Quoting: rubthebuddha


There is nothing CRIMINAL about this at all.

As long as he returned any keys that were the property of another he is FINE.

There is no law anywhere that says you can not copy a key.

No they may SUE him in CIVIL court because he WOULD be directly responsible for making them spand money to change locks.

These keys are not "controlled" keys.

All power company employees carry padlock keys to thousands of gates, etc.

Possession of these keys by MANY has already been the case.

Also, if you think for one moment a "terrorist" would need a "key" to get in someplace you are just stupid. A lockpick set would do just as fine.

I can open a padlock with a pick and rake in SECONDS. I learned how to do it for fun.
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This man has the keys to the city — and he’s selling them for a measly 150 bucks.

If the wrong person buys a set, we could all be in trouble.

Retired New Jersey locksmith Daniel Ferraris, 69, is hawking what he calls a “firemen’s key ring” — and what a terrorist might call a dream come true.


The set consists of five keys that would allow control of virtually any elevator in the city, could knock out power to municipal buildings and skyscrapers, darken city streets, open subway gates and some firehouse doors and provide full access to 1 World Trade Center and other construction sites.


[link to www.nypost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24804695


And thank you to the NY Post for posting a copy of the keys in an image. Now I don't even need to buy a copy as I can manufacture them on my 3D printer from the nice clean image.

Thanks guys! Saved me $150.... LOLOLOLOLOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23022509


how id you know what SIZE they were to duplicate??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9757217


They are standard sized keys.

For example, a KW1 key is a KW1 key, most likely you even have a KW1 key on your keychain. Good look.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23022509


Yep very easy indeed.

The first two keys are Yales, first one looks like a Y2, the other a Y1.

Most people's homes use a SC1 or a KW1... occasionally an AR1. That means if you have an SC1 key, it's channeled to fit any lockset that takes an SC1, so you can put the key in the lock, but you cannot turn it.
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10/02/2012 02:17 PM
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Oh wow. What the fuck!

Is this what it's come to folks? I mean really?

What do you guys think about this?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Are you aware there are keys to every cockpit on airplanes? They were available to every employee prior to 9/11 whether you worked in the kitchens or cleaned the planes.

Same with every building at the World Trade Center. How do janitors get in rooms, etc.

Think about it.
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10/02/2012 02:31 PM
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Oh wow. What the fuck!

Is this what it's come to folks? I mean really?

What do you guys think about this?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Are you aware there are keys to every cockpit on airplanes? They were available to every employee prior to 9/11 whether you worked in the kitchens or cleaned the planes.

Same with every building at the World Trade Center. How do janitors get in rooms, etc.

Think about it.
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Well the City had better be the high bidder!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24278562


He's a locksmith. He'll just make more, and maybe he has a buy it now with 10,000 available. lol.

edit to add: Can you even imagine 10,000 people running around NYC with all those keys? They would have to rename it Chaos City!

Anyway, those keys don't really belong to him. They are the property of NYC local government, and they should stop his auction listing, and confiscate them from him.

 Quoting: WatchmenOnTheWall


THIS! He is a locksmith-he has more----DUH.

Alarm the suits----
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Wonder if they'll open the door to his cell in Federal Pound-me-in-the-ass Prison, which is where he'll likely end up on some kind of charges.
 Quoting: rubthebuddha


There is nothing CRIMINAL about this at all.

As long as he returned any keys that were the property of another he is FINE.

There is no law anywhere that says you can not copy a key.

No they may SUE him in CIVIL court because he WOULD be directly responsible for making them spand money to change locks.

These keys are not "controlled" keys.

All power company employees carry padlock keys to thousands of gates, etc.

Possession of these keys by MANY has already been the case.

Also, if you think for one moment a "terrorist" would need a "key" to get in someplace you are just stupid. A lockpick set would do just as fine.

I can open a padlock with a pick and rake in SECONDS. I learned how to do it for fun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23022509


I didn't say it was criminal, just that those in the justice system won't take kindly to this. Nice of them to take detailed photos of the keys and post them online as well. It narrows down the keyblanks one would need to recreate these.
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To expand upon why I think this is boring, do you really not think that similar keys have gone missing during the years, with all of the people that have access to them?

They've never been lost, ever? Picked up by somebody who found out what they were?

I think we have more to worry about than power turned off in a building, or elevators not working until the fire department arrives to turn them back on again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4428411


Chances are they have been lost before but the person who found them most likely had no idea what they found. Even if they did know what they had they probably didn't intend to cause harm with them.

This isn't the case selling them on Ebay. The only people that want to buy these keys on Ebay are people who intend to use them for their own good. God knows what they intend. Maybe it's a child rapist who plans to use them to get access to victims. Maybe a murderer. Maybe a terrorist.

Shit like this shouldn't be sold on Ebay. I would be pissed in a lived in NY and someone could buy keys to my apartment building.
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To expand upon why I think this is boring, do you really not think that similar keys have gone missing during the years, with all of the people that have access to them?

They've never been lost, ever? Picked up by somebody who found out what they were?

I think we have more to worry about than power turned off in a building, or elevators not working until the fire department arrives to turn them back on again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4428411


Chances are they have been lost before but the person who found them most likely had no idea what they found. Even if they did know what they had they probably didn't intend to cause harm with them.

This isn't the case selling them on Ebay. The only people that want to buy these keys on Ebay are people who intend to use them for their own good. God knows what they intend. Maybe it's a child rapist who plans to use them to get access to victims. Maybe a murderer. Maybe a terrorist.

Shit like this shouldn't be sold on Ebay. I would be pissed in a lived in NY and someone could buy keys to my apartment building.
 Quoting: l3ol3o


Easy access to these keys is nothing new.

You knowing about it, is new.
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The nobody has been found!
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so now that they posted the pictures it's sooo easy just to duplicate those based on the pictures...

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