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| jadksn User ID: 24543892 10/02/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, you guys. Quoting: jadksn 24543892 You all remind me of the toothless sycophants here in the bible belt, who talk about how evil and dangerous this harmless plant is while they're pounding a 12 pack of beer. I don't drink or take drugs. I'm into health, fitness, and nutrition. Saying marijuana is harmless is one thing. Saying "it's good fer what ails ye" is something else. The marijuana con artists have created a new snake oil, and I despise these stoners who deceive and manipulate people. They want it legal because they want to get intoxicated. Period. Everything else is bullshit. Marijuana isn't medicine. You don't drink or take drugs? Working out and "nutrition" both change your brain chemistry in some effect. When you're pumping weights you release levels of serotonin and dopamine that can be equatable to a "high". So in a way, you take drugs. The point I'm making is, don't be so dogmatic against something just because you can't enjoy it. I don't despise these stoners because they make some very valid points, and their drug of choice will harm no one. Unlike the opiods, amphetamines, and benzoephedrines the pharmaceutical industries pump out onto the street that keep people sick, underfed, and unhappy. And I haven't smoke marijuana in months because I've got too much to lose, but I was a much happier person when I did. I was able to sleep a lot more, and I never used the plant to get "intoxicated." |
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| ANHEDONIC Uncensored User ID: 23579473 10/02/2012 05:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty apparent that you cannot refute the findings... Only complain that the sample group did not contain enough senior citizens! Quoting: ANHEDONIC - If the point you're now trying to pretend you were making is that smoking dope with more THC is a more potent anti-cancer treatment, then the study should have included people who smoke low-potency dope. Otherwise, how can a comparison be made? - Excluding people who are over 60 is a way of excluding dope-smokers who got cancer after they reached that age. (People are more likely to get cancer as they get older.) - I reject the idea that dope-smokers filling out a questionnaire about their decades of drug use qualifies as valid scientific research, because a false assumption is made that dope-smokers have an unimpaired memory. - If you're trying to say that smoking dope prevents cancer, then apparently your mind has blanked out on the article you linked earlier in this thread. For your review : "While marijuana advocates will surely praise the discovery, Desprez explained that it's not so easy as just lighting up. "We used injections in the animal testing and are also testing pills," he said. "But you could never get enough Cannabidiol for it to be effective just from smoking." Furthermore, the team has started synthesizing the compound in the lab instead of using the plant in an effort to make it more potent." How do you propose researches study the LONG TERM effects of marijuana use when the substance is illegal and the Federal government proposes it cannot have medical benefits and therefore, does not sanction it's use in medical research applications??? How do you control for THC potency when there is no regulated distribution of the plant by which to measure and control for said THC content? How do you dismiss questionnaires about illegal drug use over extended periods of time? What other means is there to study long term use of marijuana with all of the factual circumstances outlined above? You're upset that senior citizens were not included in that study? Are you suggesting that marijuana has some type of dormant cancer-causing effect that only causes cancer at later stages in one's lifespan? Care to offer any substantiating support of this hypothesis? Go ahead and continue to subscribe to your ignorance. I know that's what you're going to do anyway. The Taskin study I first linked to found correlation of a protective effect, and you can do nothing but harp on a single line in the 2nd study I linked to when I already demonstrated that marijuana need not be smoked to be ingested and can be ingested in a variety of different methods whereby the THC content and the CBC content can be manipulated by botanists in a lab. Smoking it is actually the least efficient means of ingesting it but you wouldn't know that. You are uninformed, ignorant, and close-minded. You don't know shit about marijuana because you don't use it and you believe the Federal government is honest about this issue when they are dishonest about everything else. You know what the FDA does to scare people? The officials rant and rave about the level of 'carcinogens' in marijuana smoke in comparison to cigarette smoke. That's all they can do is harp about carcinogens because there is ZERO EVIDENCE that it actually causes cancer. They can't say X number of Americans have developed cancer from marijuana use, or X number of Americans have died from marijuana related cancers. They can't do it because the data does not exist! If the data did exist they would reference it. They can only scare you with the word carcinogen so that you automatically assume it leads to cancer. Only the sheep subscribe to these fear-tactics that are not backed by medicinal science. There are countless other studies outlining the medicinal benefits of marijuana but you don't care about those because you are more comfortable with your head in the sand. Enjoy your ignorance. Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 10/02/2012 05:36 PM "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21083803 10/02/2012 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing worth pinning, read what really happened, the marijuana was just a placebo. Quoting: SheldonCooper Are you aware of the research carried out in Spain with medical marijuana and cancer. Are you aware of all the research that shows that medical marijuana should never be used. It is in those 'peer-reviewed' journals you guys like mentioning. Hey Sheldon, Go shill your GOP talking point somewhere else ASSHOLE. Yes you are a prick. How dare you fucking moron right wingers come on these sites and push your NAZI NWO laws that are not FREEDOM and LIBERTY you all claim to love. Bullshit and I am calling you pricks on it. You hate FREEDOM, all you rightwingers want to do is make more things illegal and throw more people in prison. Look at Arizona and their NAZI governor. A complete private prison whore who wants to throw everyone in private prisons for profit? I am sick of you fucking GOP types claming you love freedom as you CLEARLY DON'T. You love fascism. Get off our website you NAZI asshole. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24002333 10/02/2012 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go shill your GOP talking point somewhere else ASSHOLE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21083803 You hate FREEDOM, all you rightwingers want to do is make more things illegal and throw more people in prison. I am sick of you fucking GOP types claming you love freedom as you CLEARLY DON'T. You love fascism. Get off our website you NAZI asshole. You become enraged when someone expresses an opinion you disagree with. You arrogantly tell them they must leave. You don't want them to have the freedom to express opinions here. And you're calling someone else a Nazi? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24002333 10/02/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you propose researches study the LONG TERM effects of marijuana use when the substance is illegal and the Federal government proposes it cannot have medical benefits and therefore, does not sanction it's use in medical research applications??? Quoting: ANHEDONIC Why cant these compounds be studied extensively? because of shills like you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21738912 If you read the article, it doesn't sound like they're having any trouble researching these compounds in the U.S. [link to www.huffingtonpost.com] "A pair of scientists at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco ... " "It took us about 20 years of research to figure this out ..." How do you control for THC potency when there is no regulated distribution of the plant by which to measure and control for said THC content? Quoting: ANHEDONIC How do you dismiss questionnaires about illegal drug use over extended periods of time? Quoting: ANHEDONIC - I reject the idea that dope-smokers filling out a questionnaire about their decades of drug use qualifies as valid scientific research, because a false assumption is made that dope-smokers have an unimpaired memory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 What other means is there to study long term use of marijuana with all of the factual circumstances outlined above? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 You're upset that senior citizens were not included in that study? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 - Excluding people who are over 60 is a way of excluding dope-smokers who got cancer after they reached that age. (People are more likely to get cancer as they get older.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 Are you suggesting that marijuana has some type of dormant cancer-causing effect that only causes cancer at later stages in one's lifespan? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 The Taskin study I first linked to found correlation of a protective effect ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 "... a suggestion of some protective effect" ... he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful ... THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous. That would qualify as "unfounded speculation". He's using his imagination. There are no facts to support these notions. and you can do nothing but harp on a single line in the 2nd study I linked to ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 ... when I already demonstrated that marijuana need not be smoked to be ingested and can be ingested in a variety of different methods whereby the THC content and the CBC content can be manipulated by botanists in a lab. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 Smoking it is actually the least efficient means of ingesting it but you wouldn't know that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 "While marijuana advocates will surely praise the discovery, Desprez explained that it's not so easy as just lighting up. "We used injections in the animal testing and are also testing pills," he said. "But you could never get enough Cannabidiol for it to be effective just from smoking." Furthermore, the team has started synthesizing the compound in the lab instead of using the plant in an effort to make it more potent." You are uninformed, ignorant, and close-minded. You don't know shit about marijuana because you don't use it and you believe the Federal government is honest about this issue when they are dishonest about everything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 You know what the FDA does to scare people? The officials rant and rave about the level of 'carcinogens' in marijuana smoke in comparison to cigarette smoke. That's all they can do is harp about carcinogens because there is ZERO EVIDENCE that it actually causes cancer. They can't say X number of Americans have developed cancer from marijuana use, or X number of Americans have died from marijuana related cancers. They can't do it because the data does not exist! If the data did exist they would reference it. They can only scare you with the word carcinogen so that you automatically assume it leads to cancer. Only the sheep subscribe to these fear-tactics that are not backed by medicinal science. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 Of marijuana? Or of the non-intoxicating ingredients? If the non-intoxicating ingredients have some use, and can be synthesized, like Drs. Desprez and McAllister are doing, then we don't need the plant, and nobody needs to smoke it. |
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| ZeuZ User ID: 3389928 10/03/2012 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, you guys. Quoting: jadksn 24543892 You all remind me of the toothless sycophants here in the bible belt, who talk about how evil and dangerous this harmless plant is while they're pounding a 12 pack of beer. I don't drink or take drugs. I'm into health, fitness, and nutrition. Saying marijuana is harmless is one thing. Saying "it's good fer what ails ye" is something else. The marijuana con artists have created a new snake oil, and I despise these stoners who deceive and manipulate people. They want it legal because they want to get intoxicated. Period. Everything else is bullshit. Marijuana isn't medicine. If I wanted to get intoxicated, I can go buy Hennessy. If I wanted to get addicted to Oxycontins, Zanax, and hydrocodones, I would go to a doctor. I want something that greatly reduces the burning pain in my spine, hands, and knees. I want something that makes food taste better. I want something that makes sex feel better. I want something that prevents me from killing the 75% of stupid people in this country. I also want something that isn't going to drastically reduce my lifespan, or filled with some form of engineered government poison. Arnold Schwarzenegger -Mr. Universe Michael Phelps - Fastest man in the water Usain Bolt - Fasted man on land Lance Armstrong - Fastest man on a bike Bobby Flay - Fastest man in a kitchen Because somewhere in there, they just like to get intoxicated. We aren't trying to force you to smoke. We're just saying be open to the idea that people have lied to you your entire life, and it's OK to be pissed off. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22862745 10/03/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing worth pinning, read what really happened, the marijuana was just a placebo. Quoting: SheldonCooper A complex biologically active substance, such as cannabis, cannot be used as a placebo. It can and was, the kid would have got better regardless of whether or not his dad had given him the drug. for a placebo to work the subject to at least be aware they have taken something. that kid was comatose and his dad fed him the marijuana via his feeding tube behind the dr's backs. would you be wide awake after not eating for 40 odd days? does it take a lot of practice being a halfwit? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 10/03/2012 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing worth pinning, read what really happened, the marijuana was just a placebo. Quoting: SheldonCooper A complex biologically active substance, such as cannabis, cannot be used as a placebo. It can and was, the kid would have got better regardless of whether or not his dad had given him the drug. You are just being ridiculous and trying to derail a perfectly good thread. Why don't you try and learn something, that's what the rest of us are doing here? What are you doing here? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24862690 10/03/2012 03:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you propose researches study the LONG TERM effects of marijuana use when the substance is illegal and the Federal government proposes it cannot have medical benefits and therefore, does not sanction it's use in medical research applications??? Quoting: ANHEDONIC Why cant these compounds be studied extensively? because of shills like you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21738912 If you read the article, it doesn't sound like they're having any trouble researching these compounds in the U.S. [link to www.huffingtonpost.com] "A pair of scientists at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco ... " "It took us about 20 years of research to figure this out ..." How do you control for THC potency when there is no regulated distribution of the plant by which to measure and control for said THC content? Quoting: ANHEDONIC How do you dismiss questionnaires about illegal drug use over extended periods of time? Quoting: ANHEDONIC - I reject the idea that dope-smokers filling out a questionnaire about their decades of drug use qualifies as valid scientific research, because a false assumption is made that dope-smokers have an unimpaired memory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 What other means is there to study long term use of marijuana with all of the factual circumstances outlined above? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 You're upset that senior citizens were not included in that study? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 - Excluding people who are over 60 is a way of excluding dope-smokers who got cancer after they reached that age. (People are more likely to get cancer as they get older.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 Are you suggesting that marijuana has some type of dormant cancer-causing effect that only causes cancer at later stages in one's lifespan? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 The Taskin study I first linked to found correlation of a protective effect ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 "... a suggestion of some protective effect" ... he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful ... THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous. That would qualify as "unfounded speculation". He's using his imagination. There are no facts to support these notions. and you can do nothing but harp on a single line in the 2nd study I linked to ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 ... when I already demonstrated that marijuana need not be smoked to be ingested and can be ingested in a variety of different methods whereby the THC content and the CBC content can be manipulated by botanists in a lab. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 Smoking it is actually the least efficient means of ingesting it but you wouldn't know that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 "While marijuana advocates will surely praise the discovery, Desprez explained that it's not so easy as just lighting up. "We used injections in the animal testing and are also testing pills," he said. "But you could never get enough Cannabidiol for it to be effective just from smoking." Furthermore, the team has started synthesizing the compound in the lab instead of using the plant in an effort to make it more potent." You are uninformed, ignorant, and close-minded. You don't know shit about marijuana because you don't use it and you believe the Federal government is honest about this issue when they are dishonest about everything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 You know what the FDA does to scare people? The officials rant and rave about the level of 'carcinogens' in marijuana smoke in comparison to cigarette smoke. That's all they can do is harp about carcinogens because there is ZERO EVIDENCE that it actually causes cancer. They can't say X number of Americans have developed cancer from marijuana use, or X number of Americans have died from marijuana related cancers. They can't do it because the data does not exist! If the data did exist they would reference it. They can only scare you with the word carcinogen so that you automatically assume it leads to cancer. Only the sheep subscribe to these fear-tactics that are not backed by medicinal science. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 There are countless other studies outlining the medicinal benefits of marijuana Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333 fucking godly mason |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16245401 10/03/2012 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me make something perfectly clear. My mom just got done having breast cancer, and the drugs they put here on made her a useless zombie. Klonopins and some Gaba-shit that works in conjunction with the klonopins. My ex-gf used to take them just to get fucked up. Quoting: ZeuZ After my mom had spilled a full cup of coffee in my Dads Acura TL, because she couldn't hold onto ANYTHING. I told them to get her off the drugs. If I had to go talk to her doctor I will, but in the mean time, here is a pipe and some weed. If you don't feel right, just smoke. It won't make you stupid, and it won't kill you if you drink alcohol. For all you stupid fucking people who say it is bad for your health, makes you stupid, and has no medical purpose, then I wish ravenous cancer upon your children, to consume their testicles, ovaries, and brains. Then let's how you feel about the new chemical concoctions the doctors are trying out on your dying child. If there is a God, he gave us these plants for a reason. Some people can't handle it. I'll accept that. It's not for everyone. But if you are dying, it's not going to hurt a goddamn thing. Don't even get me started on how effective it is for ADHD. ![]() |
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