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I know I should vote for Gary Johnson but I want Obama out SO bad!!!!!

 
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Voting for Gary Johnson here.

I have been and continue to support libertarian view. Ron Paul should not have run under the Republica ticket knowing how crooked the system is and that he would not get the nomination despite being the best candidate.

The clear choice is to vote for the person that represents how you feel on issues the best period. Stand up for what you believe in and don't fall victim to the game they play every 4 years with voting for someone that sucks just to get the other guy out.
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and the "Libertarian view" is just another utopian pile of retardism that never has and never will happen in real life...in fact it RELIES on people having absolutely ZERO grasp of reality to have any supporters at all, which are few.
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It might not be perfect but it's a lot better looking platform than the 2 main options.
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Gary Johnson was governor of New Mexico while I lived there, he was a good governor and I like the man, I think he is very genuine.

All that said, I think getting Obama out is our ONLY HOPE for saving this country through the electoral process.

Luckily, I live in Texas where Romney will win by 10 to 12%, so I have the luxury of voting my conscience and going with Gary Johnson...

However, if I lived in Florida, or New Mexico, or Arizona, or any other swing state, I would vote Romney without pause...
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Wow...what party was he in when he was gov?....
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He was a Republican...
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Im voting for the Whig party. banana2
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If Obama gets a second term, which you will give him by voting Johnson, the "system that sucks" will be gone. There will be no more voting, for lesser or greater evil.

Why do you people have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
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FFS, if Obama gets a second term it will be because Romney didn't convince enough people to vote for him. If Obama gets a second term, it's because Romney is a PIECE OF SHIT that people DID NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR and the GOP was too fucking stupid to do anything about it.

Why do YOU have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
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You're half way there.

Romney's point about not bothering to try to convince the 47% who are too stupid or evil to ever consider voting for the good of the country and other people over their own selfish and self-destructive immediate desires is quite accurate.

That isn't Romney's fault. It's the fault of the 47% who are too intellectually dull, morally empty, and generally worthless who demand suicide for themselves and everyone else by allowing a second Obama term.

BTW, those 47% usually refer to Romney as "a PIECE OF SHIT".
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Im voting for the Whig party. banana2
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The white guys who dress and act black?

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Welcome to Woodbury.

I think being a Democrat should be a felony.

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Why is it everyone just assumes that Gov. Johnson will only take votes from Romney. His stances on gay marriage and abortion and drugs and war are much more liberal in theory. Oh I forgot Karl Rove told you that.

Believe what you will "sheeple".
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If Obama gets a second term, which you will give him by voting Johnson, the "system that sucks" will be gone. There will be no more voting, for lesser or greater evil.

Why do you people have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
 Quoting: The Governor


FFS, if Obama gets a second term it will be because Romney didn't convince enough people to vote for him. If Obama gets a second term, it's because Romney is a PIECE OF SHIT that people DID NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR and the GOP was too fucking stupid to do anything about it.

Why do YOU have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
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You're half way there.

Romney's point about not bothering to try to convince the 47% who are too stupid or evil to ever consider voting for the good of the country and other people over their own selfish and self-destructive immediate desires is quite accurate.

That isn't Romney's fault. It's the fault of the 47% who are too intellectually dull, morally empty, and generally worthless who demand suicide for themselves and everyone else by allowing a second Obama term.

BTW, those 47% usually refer to Romney as "a PIECE OF SHIT".
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Romney IS a piece of shit. So is Obama.

I am not the 47%
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Just vote twice like I do. And so do I.
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Why is it everyone just assumes that Gov. Johnson will only take votes from Romney. His stances on gay marriage and abortion and drugs and war are much more liberal in theory. Oh I forgot Karl Rove told you that.

Believe what you will "sheeple".
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Because Democrats vote for the Democrat.
They aren't influenced by policies.
It's a dog whistle response to whatever freak has the (D) after its name.
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I think being a Democrat should be a felony.

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If Obama gets a second term, which you will give him by voting Johnson, the "system that sucks" will be gone. There will be no more voting, for lesser or greater evil.

Why do you people have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
 Quoting: The Governor


FFS, if Obama gets a second term it will be because Romney didn't convince enough people to vote for him. If Obama gets a second term, it's because Romney is a PIECE OF SHIT that people DID NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR and the GOP was too fucking stupid to do anything about it.

Why do YOU have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
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You're half way there.

Romney's point about not bothering to try to convince the 47% who are too stupid or evil to ever consider voting for the good of the country and other people over their own selfish and self-destructive immediate desires is quite accurate.

That isn't Romney's fault. It's the fault of the 47% who are too intellectually dull, morally empty, and generally worthless who demand suicide for themselves and everyone else by allowing a second Obama term.

BTW, those 47% usually refer to Romney as "a PIECE OF SHIT".
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Romney IS a piece of shit. So is Obama.

I am not the 47%
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Yeah, the 47% call themselves "the 99%".
Welcome to Woodbury.

I think being a Democrat should be a felony.

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Why is it everyone just assumes that Gov. Johnson will only take votes from Romney. His stances on gay marriage and abortion and drugs and war are much more liberal in theory. Oh I forgot Karl Rove told you that.

Believe what you will "sheeple".
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Because Democrats vote for the Democrat.
They aren't influenced by policies.
It's a dog whistle response to whatever freak has the (D) after its name.
 Quoting: The Governor


You might be right about colored folks and unions, but the rest of the party seems pretty sick of the left just as the ones on the right within their party.
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If Obama gets a second term, which you will give him by voting Johnson, the "system that sucks" will be gone. There will be no more voting, for lesser or greater evil.

Why do you people have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
 Quoting: The Governor


FFS, if Obama gets a second term it will be because Romney didn't convince enough people to vote for him. If Obama gets a second term, it's because Romney is a PIECE OF SHIT that people DID NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR and the GOP was too fucking stupid to do anything about it.

Why do YOU have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


You're half way there.

Romney's point about not bothering to try to convince the 47% who are too stupid or evil to ever consider voting for the good of the country and other people over their own selfish and self-destructive immediate desires is quite accurate.

That isn't Romney's fault. It's the fault of the 47% who are too intellectually dull, morally empty, and generally worthless who demand suicide for themselves and everyone else by allowing a second Obama term.

BTW, those 47% usually refer to Romney as "a PIECE OF SHIT".
 Quoting: The Governor


Wow... that isn't a divisive attitude at all and you aren't part of the problem </sarc>.

Fuck you, fuck the Repuglickans, fuck the Dumbocrats, fuck Romney, fuck Obama, fuck your divisive 47% bullshit, fuck your "my way is the only right way" attitude, and fuck you once more for good measure, jackass.

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WE LOOSE IF EITHER PARTY GETS ELECTED. SAME PROGRAM,SAME AGENDA. STAND UP FOR RON PAUL AND WHEN THE DONKEY AHOLES CRY AFTER THE ELECTION, TELL THEM THAT YOU WERE NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM !!! VOTING FOR THE LESSER EVIL IS STILL EVIL MY FRIEND.
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Why is it everyone just assumes that Gov. Johnson will only take votes from Romney. His stances on gay marriage and abortion and drugs and war are much more liberal in theory. Oh I forgot Karl Rove told you that.

Believe what you will "sheeple".
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It is entirely possible that Johnson could attract a large number of undecided voters, while also pulling voters from away from both parties and their respective candidates.

Libertarians are accurately described as being more liberal than Democrats on social issues, while being more conservative than republicans on fiscal issues.

Johnson has the potential to pull voters from both candidates. Precisely why they won't allow him into the debates.

They claim it was because he did not meet the 15% minimum on polls, but what they don't tell you is how often his name was mentioned as a choice in the polls, or how many people were actually polled. Johnson did just garner 10.6% in Ohio. That poll was of, I believe, somewhere around 2,000 people.

Imagine if he was allowed to debate the other candidate from a libertarian standpoint. It wouldn't be good for either Romney, or Obama, because Johnson will likely bring up sensitive issues and solutions that the other 2 don't want to discuss or reveal.

They're trying hard to keep Johnson out of the spotlight,or else he may do some damage to the system they've created, and the "Don't waste your vote" crowd is doing an excellent job of helping them .
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ASSHOLES who sit on their asses all day eating fake food and pumping all of their wealth, time, and labor into corporations of the ruling elite, all the while whining about how it is someone elses fault (ahem Obama), and under the lazy, wishful delusion that getting up and voting for another guy is going to change their lives for the better. LLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!!!
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If you want to get down to the meat of it, the only way anyone's lives will really be changed is with a revolution, be it violent or non violent.

But if we continue with your logic in the discussion, how is getting up and voting for either of the SAME guys going to change anyon'es lives for the better? Haven't we tried that for, essentially, the past 100+ years?!

Change through the political process is the start of a non violent revolution, that hopefully will at least see some fruit bear.

Really, it's only a matter of time before the people decide they're fed up and the violence begins. Probably about the same time they come for your guns.

The 2nd amendment isn't safe with Romeny or Obama in office, not in my opinion anyway.
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What fucking revolution are you talking about? This is a new Era, violent/non-violent are total non issues.

As i said, the scum rises to the top any time, every time. Stop thinking that voting for someone is going to change this fact. Political processes won't change it either. Its a totally unavoidable biological reality.


99.9% of the idiots here are whining about banking elite, corporate elite, or Barack fucking Obama and GOVT ruinng their lives/countries, its beyond fucking ridiculous. These are the VERY SAME INDIVIDUALS WHO SUPPORT THESE INSTITUTIONS WITH EVERY LAST DIME IN THEIR POCKETS. I guarantee you most of these people work for/and are paid, or recieve benefits DIRECTLY from these organizations.


In an environment like this, the only revolution that can constitute social change is a PERSONAL ONE. We are all the perpetrators; the creators of this environment and social structure are consequences of our daily habits and not an ounce more.
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FFS, if Obama gets a second term it will be because Romney didn't convince enough people to vote for him. If Obama gets a second term, it's because Romney is a PIECE OF SHIT that people DID NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR and the GOP was too fucking stupid to do anything about it.

Why do YOU have such a difficult time with this concept? It isn't that difficult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


You're half way there.

Romney's point about not bothering to try to convince the 47% who are too stupid or evil to ever consider voting for the good of the country and other people over their own selfish and self-destructive immediate desires is quite accurate.

That isn't Romney's fault. It's the fault of the 47% who are too intellectually dull, morally empty, and generally worthless who demand suicide for themselves and everyone else by allowing a second Obama term.

BTW, those 47% usually refer to Romney as "a PIECE OF SHIT".
 Quoting: The Governor


Romney IS a piece of shit. So is Obama.

I am not the 47%
 Quoting: IV 23445819


Yeah, the 47% call themselves "the 99%".
 Quoting: The Governor


Then by that logic, you are the 47%. I seriously doubt you are part of the 1%. If you are, it would explain why you might be pro Romney

I am not intellectually dull, morally empty, or worthless. In fact it is these traits that will keep me from voting for Romney.

Run along now. Be a good sheep.
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Do not buy CARS made by these Unionist asshxles !!! they are Anti-White racists ( their party embraces affirmative action policies that are still being enacted covertly). I live next to Detroit and among these blue collar dxckheads. Most are human garbage of the sort that would buy drugs off of their own kids and others that sell their kids sexually for money. 3 out of 4 of their kids want to be ghetto gangsters. Do you want a car built by a lowlife ?
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The electoral college elects presidents. If you know this, you know it is mathematically impossible for Romney to win.

We're either going to change the world or get stuck with more phony "hope and change". Romney is a non-factor.

Johnson / Gray 2012.
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ASSHOLES who sit on their asses all day eating fake food and pumping all of their wealth, time, and labor into corporations of the ruling elite, all the while whining about how it is someone elses fault (ahem Obama), and under the lazy, wishful delusion that getting up and voting for another guy is going to change their lives for the better. LLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10358803


If you want to get down to the meat of it, the only way anyone's lives will really be changed is with a revolution, be it violent or non violent.

But if we continue with your logic in the discussion, how is getting up and voting for either of the SAME guys going to change anyon'es lives for the better? Haven't we tried that for, essentially, the past 100+ years?!

Change through the political process is the start of a non violent revolution, that hopefully will at least see some fruit bear.

Really, it's only a matter of time before the people decide they're fed up and the violence begins. Probably about the same time they come for your guns.

The 2nd amendment isn't safe with Romeny or Obama in office, not in my opinion anyway.
 Quoting: IV 23445819



What fucking revolution are you talking about? This is a new Era, violent/non-violent are total non issues.

As i said, the scum rises to the top any time, every time. Stop thinking that voting for someone is going to change this fact. Political processes won't change it either. Its a totally unavoidable biological reality.


99.9% of the idiots here are whining about banking elite, corporate elite, or Barack fucking Obama and GOVT ruinng their lives/countries, its beyond fucking ridiculous. These are the VERY SAME INDIVIDUALS WHO SUPPORT THESE INSTITUTIONS WITH EVERY LAST DIME IN THEIR POCKETS. I guarantee you most of these people work for/and are paid, or recieve benefits DIRECTLY from these organizations.


In an environment like this, the only revolution that can constitute social change is a PERSONAL ONE. We are all the perpetrators; the creators of this environment and social structure are consequences of our daily habits and not an ounce more.
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There isn't a revolution happening right now.
But there will be. ..

If things continue down the path they are currently on (and you're deluding yourself if you believe Romney or Obama will change the course), then a revolution may be necessary.

You may have come to your own terms that there's nothing you can do about it, but I refuse to just sit and watch it happen.

First we try the political way. The steam that has been building for Libertarians and 3rd party candidates this past election year is enormous, in comparative terms to previous years. It is not likely to bring about the results we're hoping for within the next month, but it's starting the process for 2016 EARLY.
If after 2016 it continues to be a broken system that ceases to act in the best interest of the people, it is the right of the people, who grant power to those that hold it in the first place, to take it back and alter or set up new government. - paraphrasing the Declaration of Independence.

Have the Constitution and the Declaration come to mean nothing to you? (not you specifically, but as a generality)

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Or the global pirates are running Romney TOO LOOSE !! just like they did the last time with a tired old windbag hack and a flighty ding bat from Alaska that never had a chance against Mr. Super Sexy Cool Obama.
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The electoral college elects presidents. If you know this, you know it is mathematically impossible for Romney to win.

We're either going to change the world or get stuck with more phony "hope and change". Romney is a non-factor.

Johnson / Gray 2012.
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Care to elaborate?
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IF YOU CHOOSE TO VOTE FOR EVEN THE 'LESSER OF THE EVILS' THEN YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT CANDIDATE SUPPORTS.

I AM PLEADING WITH MY FELLOW AMERICANS, DO NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EITHER OF THESE MONSTERS.

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Oh don't be so afraid you giant pussy...
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Afraid?

Who's afraid? I'm fucking angry.

I'm also terribly saddened by what has happened to this once great nation, and it kills me inside knowing that my fellow Americans brought it upon themselves.

Hence why I am pleading that the people do not subject themselves to this hypocrisy. For my children's sake and for your children's sake, I hope dearly that people will wake up and stop the machine before it consume everything.

But it just doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
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My biggest fear is that capitalism will be blamed for our country's impending financial crisis if Mitt Romney wins. The financial crisis will hit regardless of who is in office.

There's no difference between Obama and Romney if you actually care to look at issues instead of party affiliation. Romney implemented Romneycare in his state, passed anti-gun legislation, supports social security, supports wars, supports NDAA and Patriot Act, is financed by Wall Street, supported TARP, and doesn't want taxpayers paying a penny less in taxes than they currently do.

Those saying that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama are wrong. A vote for Romney or Obama is a vote for the status quo. I find it ironic that people voting for Johnson are being mocked for remaining true to their principles and yet the founding fathers are revered for standing by their principles.
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My advice is that if you live in a swing state, this is not the year to vote for anyone but Romney.

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If any of you clowns vote for Obama or Johnson (obama), you deserve everything that Obama has in store for you.
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Vote for the person you want to see run your country.

If you dumb redheck hill billies keep voting for retards like Romney, that's the type of person you will ONLY see being elected to the republican presidential nomination. Now if you had all voted Ron Paul or Gary, the republican party might have actually had a chance at winning something. WAKE THE FUCK UP "Republicans." At this rate your party is doomed.
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I'm torn. Need to make a decision soon, early voting starts today. I don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils but I also want to see that pompus !@#$%^&* Obama kicked to the curb very badly....Any advice?!
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What's the hurry? Why not wait for the debates and find out if Romney offers anything you like?
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"You cannot be a good soldier in a bad war sir" from the movie "The Beast". Johnson shmonson, they will all be co-opted into the criminal cabal. You need somebody like Putin. He rounds up the problem and they end up in Siberia. He would round up the Banksters and make them disappear. That is the only true solution, anything else is a waste of time.
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"Libertarians are accurately described as being more liberal than Democrats on social issues, while being more conservative than republicans on fiscal issues."

Umm, no, that's beyond retarded. You are trying to say that the same guys who are trying to roll back civil rights legislation are more socially liberal than democrats?

Is it possible that you are confusing positive rights with negative rights? Either way, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about...

The common modern libertarian is not more or less conservative or liberal than anyone on social issues, because they have put absolute emphasis on "fiscal" issues relating to negative rights.

Thus why they will never have substantial influence or power in this country (or any other for that matter)...

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