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DHS seems to be getting ready for battle. So I would expect it to hit the fan sometime after the selection. Buy what u need now, while prices are still low.
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the dollar WILL crash soon. this isn't a drill. think!

what will you do without electricity for 2 weeks and beyond?

what will you do if your water goes off? +?

what will you do if roads are blocked for interstate travel?

what will you do without food for months?...

medical supplies? emergency shelter if you are thrown out of your house or if it falls down in an earthquake?

metro areas will be dead zones
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I am willing to wager that there is not a soul on this website that does not know this OP is truth.

American freedom-loving, can-do spirit is dead,... and being buried by the corporate "elite" without a peep.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest. The "supra-national coven" is not a class which gets their own hands dirty. They are not the ones IN the board rooms ...they pay [aka:own] people to see to such things. The "supra-national coven" are the ones on the other end of the red phones, dictating what is expected.

So, I think, by extension,
that z is correct.


No? [BTW, with all due respect, I am NOT trying to be cheeky here.]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


..
I am willing to wager that there is not a soul on this website that does not know this OP is truth.

American freedom-loving, can-do spirit is dead,... and being buried by the corporate "elite" without a peep.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies.
 Quoting: The Governor


First, I think I need to stand up for myself here.


Governor, You have managed to misquote me in such a way, your reply does not reply to what I truly said.

You cut short my comment, to simply say: "Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

With this, you manage to diminish two posters, while succinctly showing yourself to be superior.

Let me think of an example of what I meant, when stating "by extension."

How about this:

Chris Matthews says Cheney got $34 million payday from Halliburton

Well, then, how do you explain how Halliburton?

"The oil-services and infrastructure giant Halliburton is a favorite target for critics of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who used to be the company's CEO. During the presidency of George W. Bush, the company's Iraq War-related contracts attracted wide attention. Now, the company's role in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has brought Halliburton back into the headlines."
[link to www.politifact.com]

And, to EXTEND my point:

Halliburton is one of the world's largest oilfield services companies with operations in more than 70 countries. It has hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs over 60,000 people.
The company has dual headquarters located in Houston and in Dubai...

Halliburton's former subsidiary, KBR, is a major construction company of refineries, oil fields, pipelines, and chemical plants...

From 1995 to 2002, Halliburton Brown & Root Services Corp was awarded at least $2.5 billion but has spent considerably less to construct and run military bases, some in secret locations, as part of the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program. This contract was a cost plus 13% contract and BRS employees were trained on how to pass GAO audits to ensure maximum profits were attained. It was also grounds for termination in the Balkans if any BRS employee spoke of Dick Cheney's being CEO.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I will stop there.

So, [quoted in full] when you reply: Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies. you are not being very truthful.

Halliburton RAN military bases. How close to corporations "not having an army" is this?

Let's extend this:

Academi —previously known as Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide—is a private military company founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark.[3][4] Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. Academi provided diplomatic security services in Iraq to the United States federal government on a contractual basis.

Since June 2004, Blackwater has been paid more than $320 million out of a $1 billion, five-year State Department budget for the Worldwide Personal Protective Service, which protects U.S. officials and some foreign officials in conflict zones."

This Corporation is a private army.


I am not an analyst, I am just a citizen who has learned things. I am certain that there are much better examples to be found.

The bottom line is, if you are going to rebut someone's comment, rebut it in full, not just the parts that seem to quantify some misleading comment you will make.

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.


Our Nation has a conundrum.

Someone talked our Government into using Corporations instead of our own military to safeguard our assets overseas. These contractual agreements force the hand of government.

Someone like Grover Norquist has the ability and power to force the hand of all Republicans in Congress to do as they are told. It is the blackmail and threats of corporate interests which allow corporations to force the hand of government.

Someone had the bright idea to give the Republican base the strangest group of presidential candidates for a number of elections now. I would say 'weakest' yet, I do not want to insult my Republican friends who have relied on these candidates.

Finally, it isn't difficult to see the power of Lobbyists. Almost every one of them who are successful are paid by corporations.

So, I do not buy it when you say: "Nope, it's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

They certainly do have armies: of military, of political, and, of social and of religious entities, all allowing them carte-blanc over government policy.

Yes, this is a "supra national coven"; in fact, I rather like that term. But, it's not run by government. It's all preordained by those we never see. Those behind the Federal Reserve. Those we whisper and rant about here every day.

And, those who are paid to run these games still have someone higher to answer to.

`````````````````````````

I do not like having my words truncated for someone else's glory. I may not be well-informed, I am always open to new ideas, but, I needed to defend my honor here.

okay....stepping of my personal soapbox.

damned

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I heard somewhere that the federal reserve act ends this upcoming year and won't be rewritten
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I am willing to wager that there is not a soul on this website that does not know this OP is truth.

American freedom-loving, can-do spirit is dead,... and being buried by the corporate "elite" without a peep.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest. The "supra-national coven" is not a class which gets their own hands dirty. They are not the ones IN the board rooms ...they pay [aka:own] people to see to such things. The "supra-national coven" are the ones on the other end of the red phones, dictating what is expected.


Well said!!!
clappa
This thread was worth reading just to see this post, really thought provoking and extremely well put!
So, I think, by extension,
that z is correct.


No? [BTW, with all due respect, I am NOT trying to be cheeky here.]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


..
...


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies.
 Quoting: The Governor


First, I think I need to stand up for myself here.


Governor, You have managed to misquote me in such a way, your reply does not reply to what I truly said.

You cut short my comment, to simply say: "Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

With this, you manage to diminish two posters, while succinctly showing yourself to be superior.

Let me think of an example of what I meant, when stating "by extension."

How about this:

Chris Matthews says Cheney got $34 million payday from Halliburton

Well, then, how do you explain how Halliburton?

"The oil-services and infrastructure giant Halliburton is a favorite target for critics of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who used to be the company's CEO. During the presidency of George W. Bush, the company's Iraq War-related contracts attracted wide attention. Now, the company's role in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has brought Halliburton back into the headlines."
[link to www.politifact.com]

And, to EXTEND my point:

Halliburton is one of the world's largest oilfield services companies with operations in more than 70 countries. It has hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs over 60,000 people.
The company has dual headquarters located in Houston and in Dubai...

Halliburton's former subsidiary, KBR, is a major construction company of refineries, oil fields, pipelines, and chemical plants...

From 1995 to 2002, Halliburton Brown & Root Services Corp was awarded at least $2.5 billion but has spent considerably less to construct and run military bases, some in secret locations, as part of the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program. This contract was a cost plus 13% contract and BRS employees were trained on how to pass GAO audits to ensure maximum profits were attained. It was also grounds for termination in the Balkans if any BRS employee spoke of Dick Cheney's being CEO.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I will stop there.

So, [quoted in full] when you reply: Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies. you are not being very truthful.

Halliburton RAN military bases. How close to corporations "not having an army" is this?

Let's extend this:

Academi —previously known as Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide—is a private military company founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark.[3][4] Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. Academi provided diplomatic security services in Iraq to the United States federal government on a contractual basis.

Since June 2004, Blackwater has been paid more than $320 million out of a $1 billion, five-year State Department budget for the Worldwide Personal Protective Service, which protects U.S. officials and some foreign officials in conflict zones."

This Corporation is a private army.


I am not an analyst, I am just a citizen who has learned things. I am certain that there are much better examples to be found.

The bottom line is, if you are going to rebut someone's comment, rebut it in full, not just the parts that seem to quantify some misleading comment you will make.

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.


Our Nation has a conundrum.

Someone talked our Government into using Corporations instead of our own military to safeguard our assets overseas. These contractual agreements force the hand of government.

Someone like Grover Norquist has the ability and power to force the hand of all Republicans in Congress to do as they are told. It is the blackmail and threats of corporate interests which allow corporations to force the hand of government.

Someone had the bright idea to give the Republican base the strangest group of presidential candidates for a number of elections now. I would say 'weakest' yet, I do not want to insult my Republican friends who have relied on these candidates.

Finally, it isn't difficult to see the power of Lobbyists. Almost every one of them who are successful are paid by corporations.

So, I do not buy it when you say: "Nope, it's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

They certainly do have armies: of military, of political, and, of social and of religious entities, all allowing them carte-blanc over government policy.

Yes, this is a "supra national coven"; in fact, I rather like that term. But, it's not run by government. It's all preordained by those we never see. Those behind the Federal Reserve. Those we whisper and rant about here every day.

And, those who are paid to run these games still have someone higher to answer to.

`````````````````````````

I do not like having my words truncated for someone else's glory. I may not be well-informed, I am always open to new ideas, but, I needed to defend my honor here.

okay....stepping of my personal soapbox.

damned
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan
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Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies.
 Quoting: The Governor


First, I think I need to stand up for myself here.


Governor, You have managed to misquote me in such a way, your reply does not reply to what I truly said.

You cut short my comment, to simply say: "Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

With this, you manage to diminish two posters, while succinctly showing yourself to be superior.

Let me think of an example of what I meant, when stating "by extension."

How about this:

Chris Matthews says Cheney got $34 million payday from Halliburton

Well, then, how do you explain how Halliburton?

"The oil-services and infrastructure giant Halliburton is a favorite target for critics of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who used to be the company's CEO. During the presidency of George W. Bush, the company's Iraq War-related contracts attracted wide attention. Now, the company's role in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has brought Halliburton back into the headlines."
[link to www.politifact.com]

And, to EXTEND my point:

Halliburton is one of the world's largest oilfield services companies with operations in more than 70 countries. It has hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs over 60,000 people.
The company has dual headquarters located in Houston and in Dubai...

Halliburton's former subsidiary, KBR, is a major construction company of refineries, oil fields, pipelines, and chemical plants...

From 1995 to 2002, Halliburton Brown & Root Services Corp was awarded at least $2.5 billion but has spent considerably less to construct and run military bases, some in secret locations, as part of the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program. This contract was a cost plus 13% contract and BRS employees were trained on how to pass GAO audits to ensure maximum profits were attained. It was also grounds for termination in the Balkans if any BRS employee spoke of Dick Cheney's being CEO.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I will stop there.

So, [quoted in full] when you reply: Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies. you are not being very truthful.

Halliburton RAN military bases. How close to corporations "not having an army" is this?

Let's extend this:

Academi —previously known as Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide—is a private military company founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark.[3][4] Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. Academi provided diplomatic security services in Iraq to the United States federal government on a contractual basis.

Since June 2004, Blackwater has been paid more than $320 million out of a $1 billion, five-year State Department budget for the Worldwide Personal Protective Service, which protects U.S. officials and some foreign officials in conflict zones."

This Corporation is a private army.


I am not an analyst, I am just a citizen who has learned things. I am certain that there are much better examples to be found.

The bottom line is, if you are going to rebut someone's comment, rebut it in full, not just the parts that seem to quantify some misleading comment you will make.

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.


Our Nation has a conundrum.

Someone talked our Government into using Corporations instead of our own military to safeguard our assets overseas. These contractual agreements force the hand of government.

Someone like Grover Norquist has the ability and power to force the hand of all Republicans in Congress to do as they are told. It is the blackmail and threats of corporate interests which allow corporations to force the hand of government.

Someone had the bright idea to give the Republican base the strangest group of presidential candidates for a number of elections now. I would say 'weakest' yet, I do not want to insult my Republican friends who have relied on these candidates.

Finally, it isn't difficult to see the power of Lobbyists. Almost every one of them who are successful are paid by corporations.

So, I do not buy it when you say: "Nope, it's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

They certainly do have armies: of military, of political, and, of social and of religious entities, all allowing them carte-blanc over government policy.

Yes, this is a "supra national coven"; in fact, I rather like that term. But, it's not run by government. It's all preordained by those we never see. Those behind the Federal Reserve. Those we whisper and rant about here every day.

And, those who are paid to run these games still have someone higher to answer to.

`````````````````````````

I do not like having my words truncated for someone else's glory. I may not be well-informed, I am always open to new ideas, but, I needed to defend my honor here.

okay....stepping of my personal soapbox.

damned
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Hm,...not so esoteric after all there Morgan.

Sweet Jesus did you drop the Hammer on that poor misinformed citizen.


lmao

Z

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Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest. The "supra-national coven" is not a class which gets their own hands dirty. They are not the ones IN the board rooms ...they pay [aka:own] people to see to such things. The "supra-national coven" are the ones on the other end of the red phones, dictating what is expected.



So, I think, by extension,
that z is correct.


No? [BTW, with all due respect, I am NOT trying to be cheeky here.]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


.....


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies.
 Quoting: The Governor


First, I think I need to stand up for myself here.


Governor, You have managed to misquote me in such a way, your reply does not reply to what I truly said.

You cut short my comment, to simply say: "Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

With this, you manage to diminish two posters, while succinctly showing yourself to be superior.

Let me think of an example of what I meant, when stating "by extension."

How about this:

Chris Matthews says Cheney got $34 million payday from Halliburton

Well, then, how do you explain how Halliburton?

"The oil-services and infrastructure giant Halliburton is a favorite target for critics of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who used to be the company's CEO. During the presidency of George W. Bush, the company's Iraq War-related contracts attracted wide attention. Now, the company's role in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has brought Halliburton back into the headlines."
[link to www.politifact.com]

And, to EXTEND my point:

Halliburton is one of the world's largest oilfield services companies with operations in more than 70 countries. It has hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs over 60,000 people.
The company has dual headquarters located in Houston and in Dubai...

Halliburton's former subsidiary, KBR, is a major construction company of refineries, oil fields, pipelines, and chemical plants...

From 1995 to 2002, Halliburton Brown & Root Services Corp was awarded at least $2.5 billion but has spent considerably less to construct and run military bases, some in secret locations, as part of the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program. This contract was a cost plus 13% contract and BRS employees were trained on how to pass GAO audits to ensure maximum profits were attained. It was also grounds for termination in the Balkans if any BRS employee spoke of Dick Cheney's being CEO.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I will stop there.

So, [quoted in full] when you reply: Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies. you are not being very truthful.

Halliburton RAN military bases. How close to corporations "not having an army" is this?

Let's extend this:

Academi —previously known as Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide—is a private military company founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark.[3][4] Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. Academi provided diplomatic security services in Iraq to the United States federal government on a contractual basis.

Since June 2004, Blackwater has been paid more than $320 million out of a $1 billion, five-year State Department budget for the Worldwide Personal Protective Service, which protects U.S. officials and some foreign officials in conflict zones."

This Corporation is a private army.


I am not an analyst, I am just a citizen who has learned things. I am certain that there are much better examples to be found.

The bottom line is, if you are going to rebut someone's comment, rebut it in full, not just the parts that seem to quantify some misleading comment you will make.

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.


Our Nation has a conundrum.

Someone talked our Government into using Corporations instead of our own military to safeguard our assets overseas. These contractual agreements force the hand of government.

Someone like Grover Norquist has the ability and power to force the hand of all Republicans in Congress to do as they are told. It is the blackmail and threats of corporate interests which allow corporations to force the hand of government.

Someone had the bright idea to give the Republican base the strangest group of presidential candidates for a number of elections now. I would say 'weakest' yet, I do not want to insult my Republican friends who have relied on these candidates.

Finally, it isn't difficult to see the power of Lobbyists. Almost every one of them who are successful are paid by corporations.

So, I do not buy it when you say: "Nope, it's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

They certainly do have armies: of military, of political, and, of social and of religious entities, all allowing them carte-blanc over government policy.

Yes, this is a "supra national coven"; in fact, I rather like that term. But, it's not run by government. It's all preordained by those we never see. Those behind the Federal Reserve. Those we whisper and rant about here every day.

And, those who are paid to run these games still have someone higher to answer to.

`````````````````````````

I do not like having my words truncated for someone else's glory. I may not be well-informed, I am always open to new ideas, but, I needed to defend my honor here.

okay....stepping of my personal soapbox.

damned
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24498534


Well said!!!

clappa
This thread was worth reading just to see this post, really thought provoking and extremely well put!

My apologies for my previous post. I accidentally placed my reply in with another posters response. tomato
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Yeah, but how many are in denial of it?
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My guess would be,...the number of voters that show up at the polls to vote for Obama or Romney. These poor bastards/bitches are in complete and total sheep-dip denial and display zombie-like mass-media driven signs of madness.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


So not voting isn't the answer either. At least vote to get Obama out. Im sorry but this guy is single handily destroying this country
 Quoting: Philligan


Sorry but your not even close
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Yikes, guys, I almost wimped out and deleted that before posting!


I hope you can get this thread back on track now...

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So not voting isn't the answer either. At least vote to get Obama out. Im sorry but this guy is single handily destroying this country
 Quoting: Philligan


If Obama was as far "left" as propagandized by the far "right" the Middle East wars would have ended. Guantanamo closed, the PATRIOT Act repealed, the "Drug" war ended, Bush and Cheney would be behind bars for carrying out the PNAC agenda with the blood of the working poor as their own private equity,... etc, etc, etc.

To want to put a Mormon Venture Capitalist into power over the citizens of the United States of America is insane and by design,...

imo.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


You don't make much sense here Z. I've never been employed by a poor person and I don't like the idea of 1/2 of us not contributing a single dime to our national defense or any other of the 18 "enumerated" powers. I think the 2 party system is 2 sides of the same coin and both are making a beeline to a global system. Our freedom and independence is in the ditch. The one thing I do know is that socialism and wealth redistribution does not work, and has never worked in the history of mankind. Personal property and resposibility does work. Also, the Fed should stay out of the things that they were not hired to do (hired by the American people). This is NOT a democracy, it is a representative Republic (which is the most successful form of government ever invented).
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


We can fit in a thimble what we know about the entire history of mankind. For all you know in all probability humans survived just fine for thousands maybe millions of years on wealth distribution. There are just too many of us for that system now though isn't there? Personal property and responsibility might work if there was no such thing as greed. Most of us are being screwed by that system right now but brainwashed into continuing to feed and to support it.
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To want to put a Mormon Venture Capitalist into power over the citizens of the United States of America is insane and by design,...


 Quoting: zacksavage


This is what is wrong with our nation today, it was never intended that our president would "have power over us".

Our president is a public servant, he's supposed to be working for us, we're his employer and pay his salary, this is America, we're supposed to call the shots.

I'm fifty years old, the biggest change in my lifetime is that the citizens of this country feel like they are subjects of the government instead of the other way around.
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I often wonder, after all the cautionary preps that I have made in the event of (any) crisis, if I will be caught in traffic miles away from home, on a bridge or tunnel, when the SHTF. The last place to be is in the thick of things with no way out.
I think some have a survival plan, but that plan depends on being in the right place at the right time. What if all your necessaries are on the other side of town, and roadblocks are put up everywhere? A number of scenarios could occur that would destroy most plans.
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This is what is wrong with our nation today, it was never intended that our president would "have power over us".

Our president is a public servant, he's supposed to be working for us, we're his employer and pay his salary, this is America, we're supposed to call the shots.

I'm fifty years old, the biggest change in my lifetime is that the citizens of this country feel like they are subjects of the government instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Public servant?,...interesting. With the amount of money, lies and fraud trotted out in these campaigns, you would think they were competing for a GOD-like position.

I feel your pain though.


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TPTB--the powers that be
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Money is nothing nowadays. Just a tool, a number in a computer. The whole world is in debt. To who? That is the question. The answer is, unanswerable. Money was just a catalyst. Now it ia about human, agriculture and petroleum output. That is the measure of wealth. Nothing else matters. When the supply of these becomes less than the human demand, then what? It's all good. We got the government to fix it all. Feed us, cloth us, house us. The rest work, companies are rocking but, the equipment, rent utilities, insurance will come down and soak the cash out eventually. It is like the sands of the hourglass. Time is a tickin as the sands are a tricklin. Gameover in a couple months. PREP.
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..
I am willing to wager that there is not a soul on this website that does not know this OP is truth.

American freedom-loving, can-do spirit is dead,... and being buried by the corporate "elite" without a peep.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest. The "supra-national coven" is not a class which gets their own hands dirty. They are not the ones IN the board rooms ...they pay [aka:own] people to see to such things. The "supra-national coven" are the ones on the other end of the red phones, dictating what is expected.

So, I think, by extension,
that z is correct.


No? [BTW, with all due respect, I am NOT trying to be cheeky here.]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


..
...


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies.
 Quoting: The Governor


First, I think I need to stand up for myself here.


Governor, You have managed to misquote me in such a way, your reply does not reply to what I truly said.

You cut short my comment, to simply say: "Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

With this, you manage to diminish two posters, while succinctly showing yourself to be superior.

Let me think of an example of what I meant, when stating "by extension."

How about this:

Chris Matthews says Cheney got $34 million payday from Halliburton

Well, then, how do you explain how Halliburton?

"The oil-services and infrastructure giant Halliburton is a favorite target for critics of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who used to be the company's CEO. During the presidency of George W. Bush, the company's Iraq War-related contracts attracted wide attention. Now, the company's role in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has brought Halliburton back into the headlines."
[link to www.politifact.com]

And, to EXTEND my point:

Halliburton is one of the world's largest oilfield services companies with operations in more than 70 countries. It has hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs over 60,000 people.
The company has dual headquarters located in Houston and in Dubai...

Halliburton's former subsidiary, KBR, is a major construction company of refineries, oil fields, pipelines, and chemical plants...

From 1995 to 2002, Halliburton Brown & Root Services Corp was awarded at least $2.5 billion but has spent considerably less to construct and run military bases, some in secret locations, as part of the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program. This contract was a cost plus 13% contract and BRS employees were trained on how to pass GAO audits to ensure maximum profits were attained. It was also grounds for termination in the Balkans if any BRS employee spoke of Dick Cheney's being CEO.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I will stop there.

So, [quoted in full] when you reply: Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies. you are not being very truthful.

Halliburton RAN military bases. How close to corporations "not having an army" is this?

Let's extend this:

Academi —previously known as Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide—is a private military company founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark.[3][4] Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. Academi provided diplomatic security services in Iraq to the United States federal government on a contractual basis.

Since June 2004, Blackwater has been paid more than $320 million out of a $1 billion, five-year State Department budget for the Worldwide Personal Protective Service, which protects U.S. officials and some foreign officials in conflict zones."

This Corporation is a private army.


I am not an analyst, I am just a citizen who has learned things. I am certain that there are much better examples to be found.

The bottom line is, if you are going to rebut someone's comment, rebut it in full, not just the parts that seem to quantify some misleading comment you will make.

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.


Our Nation has a conundrum.

Someone talked our Government into using Corporations instead of our own military to safeguard our assets overseas. These contractual agreements force the hand of government.

Someone like Grover Norquist has the ability and power to force the hand of all Republicans in Congress to do as they are told. It is the blackmail and threats of corporate interests which allow corporations to force the hand of government.

Someone had the bright idea to give the Republican base the strangest group of presidential candidates for a number of elections now. I would say 'weakest' yet, I do not want to insult my Republican friends who have relied on these candidates.

Finally, it isn't difficult to see the power of Lobbyists. Almost every one of them who are successful are paid by corporations.

So, I do not buy it when you say: "Nope, it's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

They certainly do have armies: of military, of political, and, of social and of religious entities, all allowing them carte-blanc over government policy.

Yes, this is a "supra national coven"; in fact, I rather like that term. But, it's not run by government. It's all preordained by those we never see. Those behind the Federal Reserve. Those we whisper and rant about here every day.

And, those who are paid to run these games still have someone higher to answer to.

`````````````````````````

I do not like having my words truncated for someone else's glory. I may not be well-informed, I am always open to new ideas, but, I needed to defend my honor here.

okay....stepping of my personal soapbox.

damned
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


You have amazed me, a real post that matters on GLP.

Thank you, have a green karma.
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I am willing to wager that there is not a soul on this website that does not know this OP is truth.

American freedom-loving, can-do spirit is dead,... and being buried by the corporate "elite" without a peep.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest. The "supra-national coven" is not a class which gets their own hands dirty. They are not the ones IN the board rooms ...they pay [aka:own] people to see to such things. The "supra-national coven" are the ones on the other end of the red phones, dictating what is expected.

So, I think, by extension,
that z is correct.


No? [BTW, with all due respect, I am NOT trying to be cheeky here.]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


..
...


Well, there are some fuckwits who keep calling them "corporate", but almost everyone else realizes they are a supra-national coven.
 Quoting: The Governor


Govenor, let me ask you this:

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies.
 Quoting: The Governor


First, I think I need to stand up for myself here.


Governor, You have managed to misquote me in such a way, your reply does not reply to what I truly said.

You cut short my comment, to simply say: "Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

With this, you manage to diminish two posters, while succinctly showing yourself to be superior.

Let me think of an example of what I meant, when stating "by extension."

How about this:

Chris Matthews says Cheney got $34 million payday from Halliburton

Well, then, how do you explain how Halliburton?

"The oil-services and infrastructure giant Halliburton is a favorite target for critics of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who used to be the company's CEO. During the presidency of George W. Bush, the company's Iraq War-related contracts attracted wide attention. Now, the company's role in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has brought Halliburton back into the headlines."
[link to www.politifact.com]

And, to EXTEND my point:

Halliburton is one of the world's largest oilfield services companies with operations in more than 70 countries. It has hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs over 60,000 people.
The company has dual headquarters located in Houston and in Dubai...

Halliburton's former subsidiary, KBR, is a major construction company of refineries, oil fields, pipelines, and chemical plants...

From 1995 to 2002, Halliburton Brown & Root Services Corp was awarded at least $2.5 billion but has spent considerably less to construct and run military bases, some in secret locations, as part of the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program. This contract was a cost plus 13% contract and BRS employees were trained on how to pass GAO audits to ensure maximum profits were attained. It was also grounds for termination in the Balkans if any BRS employee spoke of Dick Cheney's being CEO.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I will stop there.

So, [quoted in full] when you reply: Nope. It's governmental. Corporations don't have armies. you are not being very truthful.

Halliburton RAN military bases. How close to corporations "not having an army" is this?

Let's extend this:

Academi —previously known as Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide—is a private military company founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark.[3][4] Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. Academi provided diplomatic security services in Iraq to the United States federal government on a contractual basis.

Since June 2004, Blackwater has been paid more than $320 million out of a $1 billion, five-year State Department budget for the Worldwide Personal Protective Service, which protects U.S. officials and some foreign officials in conflict zones."

This Corporation is a private army.


I am not an analyst, I am just a citizen who has learned things. I am certain that there are much better examples to be found.

The bottom line is, if you are going to rebut someone's comment, rebut it in full, not just the parts that seem to quantify some misleading comment you will make.

Who works for the "supra-national coven?"

Who keeps their machinatons profitable?

Surely it is corporate interest.


Our Nation has a conundrum.

Someone talked our Government into using Corporations instead of our own military to safeguard our assets overseas. These contractual agreements force the hand of government.

Someone like Grover Norquist has the ability and power to force the hand of all Republicans in Congress to do as they are told. It is the blackmail and threats of corporate interests which allow corporations to force the hand of government.

Someone had the bright idea to give the Republican base the strangest group of presidential candidates for a number of elections now. I would say 'weakest' yet, I do not want to insult my Republican friends who have relied on these candidates.

Finally, it isn't difficult to see the power of Lobbyists. Almost every one of them who are successful are paid by corporations.

So, I do not buy it when you say: "Nope, it's governmental. Corporations don't have armies."

They certainly do have armies: of military, of political, and, of social and of religious entities, all allowing them carte-blanc over government policy.

Yes, this is a "supra national coven"; in fact, I rather like that term. But, it's not run by government. It's all preordained by those we never see. Those behind the Federal Reserve. Those we whisper and rant about here every day.

And, those who are paid to run these games still have someone higher to answer to.

`````````````````````````

I do not like having my words truncated for someone else's glory. I may not be well-informed, I am always open to new ideas, but, I needed to defend my honor here.

okay....stepping of my personal soapbox.

damned
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Good lord, I'm far too flippant to treat this post with the respectful response it deserves.

I partially agree with you, but I believe I summarized your position and its logical conclusion quite accurately by truncating your prose.

I'll just give you a greeny and give you respect.

We'll talk about this later.

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This is really well put together.

Please watch if you have time...


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Every citizen in America should have to watch that vid.
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I love it when a video speaks to me and has me on google looking for flak jackets.
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I'd like to know the word count on glp for "SJHTF" and "DOOM" over the last 10+ years.
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I'd like to know the word count on glp for "SJHTF" and "DOOM" over the last 10+ years.
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You don't really want to know.

Depending upon where you live on the planet and your perspective,...shit hits the fan daily.

GLP is generally,... all about it.

Hear no


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