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BREAKING - - - >> PA Judge Blocks Voter ID Law

 
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Jesse Helms once said :

"Compromise, hell! That's what has happened to us all down the line — and that's the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time?"

Government (republicans this time) are trying to slice off the elderly and disabled from their right to vote.

Think of what else they will slice.
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Shit you play the victim well! You thought the military was a good way to get an education?? You must have forgotten the purpose and intent on carrying devices that mutilate humans.
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


I was in Nuclear Engineering. And yes, they have some of the best education in that field.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20676524

One last point for YOU, how the hell do you manage to get to the VA hospital.They aren't in convenient spots. My father is deaf from being a gunner in a helicopter, can't walk since both knees have been replaced, but manages to have an up to date Id, handicapped card, and get to the VA when needed. You points are dead to me!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


Oh, and VA cards are not legal identities. There is no legal handicaped cards, only the thing you hang from your windshield when you park in a space. Come on man, you are spouting air.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20676524

Proving my point...when there is a will there is a way to get to where you need to go. All I'm saying is this, if my 86 crippled and handicapped father can get where he needs to go...so can others. Your point is weak, lazy and has no merit!!
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Pennsylvania Voter ID Law Ruling: Judge Halts Enforcement Of Law For Election
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A judge is postponing Pennsylvania's tough new voter identification requirement, ordering that it not be enforced in the presidential election.

Tuesday's ruling comes just five weeks before the election. An appeal is possible. The 6-month-old law requires each voter to show a valid photo ID.

Democrats and groups including the AARP and NAACP mounted a furious opposition to a law Republicans say is necessary to prevent election fraud. Critics have accused Republicans of using old-fashioned Jim Crow tactics to steal the White House and have highlighted stories of registered voters struggling to get a state photo ID.

The law was already a partisan lightning rod when a top Republican lawmaker boasted that it'd allow GOP nominee Mitt Romney to beat Democratic President Barack Obama in Pennsylvania.

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wtf
 Quoting: Saratonin


Good!

It's a political ploy by the right and is anti-constitutional.

If the left was doing it Ron Paul woulda already run ads about politicians destroying America, but because it's a right-wing voter suppression tool, you guys LOVE it.
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Romney is an empty suit pushed by the committy.
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He's not an empty suit, but he was certainly not mine or anyone in the Tea Party's first choice. Let's face it, none of us are excited by Romney.

But we are genuinely and legitimately terrified by Hussein.
Welcome to Woodbury.

I think being a Democrat should be a felony.

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Pennsylvania Voter ID Law Ruling: Judge Halts Enforcement Of Law For Election
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A judge is postponing Pennsylvania's tough new voter identification requirement, ordering that it not be enforced in the presidential election.

Tuesday's ruling comes just five weeks before the election. An appeal is possible. The 6-month-old law requires each voter to show a valid photo ID.

Democrats and groups including the AARP and NAACP mounted a furious opposition to a law Republicans say is necessary to prevent election fraud. Critics have accused Republicans of using old-fashioned Jim Crow tactics to steal the White House and have highlighted stories of registered voters struggling to get a state photo ID.

The law was already a partisan lightning rod when a top Republican lawmaker boasted that it'd allow GOP nominee Mitt Romney to beat Democratic President Barack Obama in Pennsylvania.

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wtf
 Quoting: Saratonin


Hmm. Just what is JIM CROW about it? They have to show ID to pee anymore. Why is it a hardship to have one to vote? Obviously there is something else in action here.. Illegals voting??

The agenda. ...Let dead people, illegals and dogs vote for Obama. he is only President to them and those at the public trough.

Personally. I am tired of feeding the bums.

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And lastly, thank God my dad has some money because once the health care law goes full blow, he won't hardly be able to get shit approved, so he will have to pay out of pocket. As far as you Mr AC VET, I'm afraid if you don't have much dough to afford your meds and such, you won't be posting at GLP much longer!
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Pennsylvania Voter ID Law Ruling: Judge Halts Enforcement Of Law For Election
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A judge is postponing Pennsylvania's tough new voter identification requirement, ordering that it not be enforced in the presidential election.

Tuesday's ruling comes just five weeks before the election. An appeal is possible. The 6-month-old law requires each voter to show a valid photo ID.

Democrats and groups including the AARP and NAACP mounted a furious opposition to a law Republicans say is necessary to prevent election fraud. Critics have accused Republicans of using old-fashioned Jim Crow tactics to steal the White House and have highlighted stories of registered voters struggling to get a state photo ID.

The law was already a partisan lightning rod when a top Republican lawmaker boasted that it'd allow GOP nominee Mitt Romney to beat Democratic President Barack Obama in Pennsylvania.

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wtf
 Quoting: Saratonin


Good!

It's a political ploy by the right and is anti-constitutional.

If the left was doing it Ron Paul woulda already run ads about politicians destroying America, but because it's a right-wing voter suppression tool, you guys LOVE it.
 Quoting: seethelight


What does an Irish moron care? Worry about your own failed country, dingbat.
Welcome to Woodbury.

I think being a Democrat should be a felony.

[link to www.policymic.com]
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And lastly, thank God my dad has some money because once the health care law goes full blow, he won't hardly be able to get shit approved, so he will have to pay out of pocket. As far as you Mr AC VET, I'm afraid if you don't have much dough to afford your meds and such, you won't be posting at GLP much longer!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


yes

Obamacare is an almost perfect Agenda 21 toolkit.
Welcome to Woodbury.

I think being a Democrat should be a felony.

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Romney is an empty suit pushed by the committy.
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He's not an empty suit, but he was certainly not mine or anyone in the Tea Party's first choice. Let's face it, none of us are excited by Romney.

But we are genuinely and legitimately terrified by Hussein.
 Quoting: The Governor


Because you believe all the fearmongering from the right...

Which is why Rick Santorum described YOU like this

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I was in Nuclear Engineering. And yes, they have some of the best education in that field.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20676524

One last point for YOU, how the hell do you manage to get to the VA hospital.They aren't in convenient spots. My father is deaf from being a gunner in a helicopter, can't walk since both knees have been replaced, but manages to have an up to date Id, handicapped card, and get to the VA when needed. You points are dead to me!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


Oh, and VA cards are not legal identities. There is no legal handicaped cards, only the thing you hang from your windshield when you park in a space. Come on man, you are spouting air.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20676524

Proving my point...when there is a will there is a way to get to where you need to go. All I'm saying is this, if my 86 crippled and handicapped father can get where he needs to go...so can others. Your point is weak, lazy and has no merit!!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


I am thankful your father has the family and means of getting around. It's much different when you have no family and very little friends (it's hard to make friends when you cannot go out, most of my friends i have met online are disabled too, go figure).

It's not easy to get rides. I can attain a ride to the grocery store mainly.

Hell I view going to Ingles, the groucery story in my area as "going out on the town" on fridays. I get to take my time, perhaps talk with a stranger, it is nice when you aree homebound.
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Pennsylvania Voter ID Law Ruling: Judge Halts Enforcement Of Law For Election
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

A judge is postponing Pennsylvania's tough new voter identification requirement, ordering that it not be enforced in the presidential election.

Tuesday's ruling comes just five weeks before the election. An appeal is possible. The 6-month-old law requires each voter to show a valid photo ID.

Democrats and groups including the AARP and NAACP mounted a furious opposition to a law Republicans say is necessary to prevent election fraud. Critics have accused Republicans of using old-fashioned Jim Crow tactics to steal the White House and have highlighted stories of registered voters struggling to get a state photo ID.

The law was already a partisan lightning rod when a top Republican lawmaker boasted that it'd allow GOP nominee Mitt Romney to beat Democratic President Barack Obama in Pennsylvania.

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wtf
 Quoting: Saratonin


Good!

It's a political ploy by the right and is anti-constitutional.

If the left was doing it Ron Paul woulda already run ads about politicians destroying America, but because it's a right-wing voter suppression tool, you guys LOVE it.
 Quoting: seethelight


What does an Irish moron care? Worry about your own failed country, dingbat.
 Quoting: The Governor


I'm an American, you dipshit.
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it's just sickening isn't it?

we're going to allow illegal immigrants to vote in our elections?

REALLY?

it's really just amazing that they can get away with this shit
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


What the hell are you talking about??
There is no in-person voter fraud taking place in Pennsylvania.

What's SICKENING is that republicans are trying to change the laws to make it more difficult for minorities, old people, and students to vote, ONLY to help repubs get elected. THAT is sickening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24715192


You live in a closed world if you think that Voter fraud does not exist..EVERY election has fraud..period
 Quoting: THE INQUISADOR


Yeah, like Florida. Who was that again, oh, that's right REPUBLICANS. Shocking!!! If you can't win it , steal it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21102346


Yup like in Florida..do you think for one second I did not suspect the fraud here also..even in local elections..
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One last point for YOU, how the hell do you manage to get to the VA hospital.They aren't in convenient spots. My father is deaf from being a gunner in a helicopter, can't walk since both knees have been replaced, but manages to have an up to date Id, handicapped card, and get to the VA when needed. You points are dead to me!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


Oh, and VA cards are not legal identities. There is no legal handicaped cards, only the thing you hang from your windshield when you park in a space. Come on man, you are spouting air.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20676524

Proving my point...when there is a will there is a way to get to where you need to go. All I'm saying is this, if my 86 crippled and handicapped father can get where he needs to go...so can others. Your point is weak, lazy and has no merit!!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


I am thankful your father has the family and means of getting around. It's much different when you have no family and very little friends (it's hard to make friends when you cannot go out, most of my friends i have met online are disabled too, go figure).

It's not easy to get rides. I can attain a ride to the grocery store mainly.

Hell I view going to Ingles, the groucery story in my area as "going out on the town" on fridays. I get to take my time, perhaps talk with a stranger, it is nice when you aree homebound.
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I have to tell you, That is my life. I would probably hang myself if i didnt have interenet.
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Very sad and disgusting.

Photo ID's are provided FREE to Pennsylvania residents making it very easy to get one.

I have two relatives with MS that cannot walk that have photo identification so saying that elderly or people that are immobile cannot get photo identification is BS!!
 Quoting: Saratonin


Hell even the poorest, even the homeless generally all have some form of photo ID - they can't get their subsidies without it.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Hey look, some REAL voting fraud:

"Election officials in six Florida counties have turned up what could be hundreds of cases of suspected voter fraud, including alleged cases of dead people being registered as Republican voters. And who's likely responsible? A Republican consulting firm, which the Republican National Committee has already paid nearly $3 million. Strategic Allied Consulting has been registering Republican voters in five battleground states."

[link to www.poconorecord.com]
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And lastly, thank God my dad has some money because once the health care law goes full blow, he won't hardly be able to get shit approved, so he will have to pay out of pocket. As far as you Mr AC VET, I'm afraid if you don't have much dough to afford your meds and such, you won't be posting at GLP much longer!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


yes

Obamacare is an almost perfect Agenda 21 toolkit.
 Quoting: The Governor


u got that right! My mom already had an antibiotic refused by medicare and Humana supplement and reason being.....because of her age....WTF!! so she paid 45 dollars out of pocket. It's a fucking joke!

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Very sad and disgusting.

Photo ID's are provided FREE to Pennsylvania residents making it very easy to get one.

I have two relatives with MS that cannot walk that have photo identification so saying that elderly or people that are immobile cannot get photo identification is BS!!
 Quoting: Saratonin


Hell even the poorest, even the homeless generally all have some form of photo ID - they can't get their subsidies without it.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Not true.

Not even vaguely true.

"Indiana's photo ID law barred twelve retired nuns in South Bend, Indiana from voting in that state's 2008 Democratic primary election. The women lacked the photo IDs required under a state law that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in April 2008. John Borkowski, a South Bend lawyer volunteering as an election watchdog for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said, "This law was passed supposedly to prevent and deter voter fraud, even though there was no real record of serious voter fraud in Indiana."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Proponents of a similar law proposed for Texas in March 2009 also argued that photo identification was necessary to prevent widespread voter fraud. Opponents respond that there is no evidence of such voter fraud in Texas, so no remedy is required, especially if such a remedy would decrease voting by senior citizens, the disabled, and lower-income residents. Opponents cited a study asserting that 1 million of the state's 13.5 million registered voters do not have a photo ID."

So in TX that's close to 10% of registered voters, without photo ID.
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"Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott (R) spent $1.4 million investigating voter fraud and from 2002 - 2012 brought 311 accusations of voter fraud to the attorney general's office. 57 cases have been resolved, and among the many convictions were four cases of voter impersonation - arguably the type of fraud that photo ID laws would prevent."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

After 10 years and 1.4 million dollars they found 4 cases that would have been stopped with a voter ID law... at the same time the voter ID law could stop close to 10% of registered voters from voting...

But the RIGHT WING LOVES THIS.

Because they LOVE VOTER SUPPRESSION.
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Very sad and disgusting.

Photo ID's are provided FREE to Pennsylvania residents making it very easy to get one.

I have two relatives with MS that cannot walk that have photo identification so saying that elderly or people that are immobile cannot get photo identification is BS!!
 Quoting: Saratonin


Hell even the poorest, even the homeless generally all have some form of photo ID - they can't get their subsidies without it.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


i did not say all. My state I.D is free as well. What i mean is a lot do not have the means to get identifications.'

Im happy for your MS relatives abled to get the help they need. Help i am happy for anyone disabled that are able to have a better life. A lot of us would be put into homes or something. Id be in a "home" if i couldnt take care of myself.
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Very sad and disgusting.

Photo ID's are provided FREE to Pennsylvania residents making it very easy to get one.

I have two relatives with MS that cannot walk that have photo identification so saying that elderly or people that are immobile cannot get photo identification is BS!!
 Quoting: Saratonin


You still have to get to someplace that issues a voter ID, and you have to bring suitable documentation. It's not free if you have to pay for a copy of your birth certificate.
 Quoting: ToSeek


OMG, such hardship!! How could we be so cruel to the illegal aliens as to make them prove their eligibility to vote!!

Shocking!
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How in the fuck do you even function in this society without an I.D.?!?!?
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They somehow receive Snap, Tanf and unemployment though. Even though no ID there means no benefits! Somehow that's not unconstitutional to let someone starve because they have no ID! hahaha What a fucking joke!!!!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


clappa exactly!!!

ID should be required to vote, period. These people on here whining about it and calling names, ex: republitard, are dillusional. You have to prove who you are for everything else, why not to vote? Im pretty sure these same people "without an ID" have either a job, bank account, or some form of govt assistance, WHICH REQUIRES ID.
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Very sad and disgusting.

Photo ID's are provided FREE to Pennsylvania residents making it very easy to get one.

I have two relatives with MS that cannot walk that have photo identification so saying that elderly or people that are immobile cannot get photo identification is BS!!
 Quoting: Saratonin


Hell even the poorest, even the homeless generally all have some form of photo ID - they can't get their subsidies without it.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Not true.

Not even vaguely true.

"Indiana's photo ID law barred twelve retired nuns in South Bend, Indiana from voting in that state's 2008 Democratic primary election. The women lacked the photo IDs required under a state law that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in April 2008. John Borkowski, a South Bend lawyer volunteering as an election watchdog for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said, "This law was passed supposedly to prevent and deter voter fraud, even though there was no real record of serious voter fraud in Indiana."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Proponents of a similar law proposed for Texas in March 2009 also argued that photo identification was necessary to prevent widespread voter fraud. Opponents respond that there is no evidence of such voter fraud in Texas, so no remedy is required, especially if such a remedy would decrease voting by senior citizens, the disabled, and lower-income residents. Opponents cited a study asserting that 1 million of the state's 13.5 million registered voters do not have a photo ID."

So in TX that's close to 10% of registered voters, without photo ID.

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Wikipedia is your source? Seriously? How about someone that actually lives in the US give a valid argument for laws that pertain to citizens of the US.
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You really shouldn't get your news from the HuffPo.

Do not blame this judge. He upheld the law a few weeks ago. It was appealed and went to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court upheld the law but sent it back down to this judge with instructions on implementing the law that were impossible for this judge to implement. He had no choice but to over turn it.

This is PA Supreme Court hanky panky, not this particular judge.

I'm from Virginia and I know this. How come all the people from PA in this thread do not?

Stop reading the HuffPo!!
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Funny...people arguing about the ID law can't make it to get an ID but they can make it out to protest.

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... learned that this Judge was REQUIRED by the PA Supreme Court to block it!!!! ...
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... learned that this Judge was REQUIRED by the PA Supreme Court to block it!!!! ...
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It was remanded, which means reconsider, turd.
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"Ten North Dakota State University football players pleaded guilty Tuesday to misdemeanor election fraud and were sentenced to community service for faking signatures on proposed ballot measure petitions that they were hired to collect."

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5*... just disgusted with renegade judges throwing out the will of the people to properly control the franchise!
JerUSAlem! Do you know where the new promised land is?

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Only Jesus can truly raise the dead.... not the democrat voting machine mafia! (counting dead votes)
JerUSAlem! Do you know where the new promised land is?

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Jefferson

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