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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
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for sure both: depending on whatever the scenario might be plz don't limit your options. there will be alot of men in the woods hunting. people get shot by accident opening day all the time, now factor in an actual competition for food, some may not be accidental ..
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hunt ?

some places in merica didn't report a deer population until 20 years after the first depression
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I haven't done any fishing in decades but just the other day I went through everything, replacing what I had to. Buying more of what I might need. Making sure everything still works. Ready to rock....
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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
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for sure both: depending on whatever the scenario might be plz don't limit your options. there will be alot of men in the woods hunting. people get shot by accident opening day all the time, now factor in an actual competition for food, some may not be accidental ..
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In fact you may not want to put on that bright orange vest, that may cause more harm than not wearing it. You know kill the competition, something to keep in mind.
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Neither. Raid. Not your fellow man. The man. Simple. Make sure you buy in .40. It'll be what you'll find to reload with.
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Neither. Raid. Not your fellow man. The man. Simple. Make sure you buy in .40. It'll be what you'll find to reload with.
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Nice..hope you are the FIRST to be Raided
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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
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Both...have supplies and hunt/gather also, you'll need to get through one growing season if you don't have a garden already...learn canning and other ways to preserve and store food too.
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Neither. Raid. Not your fellow man. The man. Simple. Make sure you buy in .40. It'll be what you'll find to reload with.
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This is the reason you stock up. You need to lay low for several months while the idiots kill each other off.
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Hmm thanks for the advice. But my bank account left me the with the choice; either a cabin in the woods or stock up on massive supply.

Now that I have the cabin I want to stock over there, not in my current house. I have a fresh water lake close to the cabin with lots of fish.

I do have a weapon to hunt, but I rather invest in fishing rods etc.
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Hmm thanks for the advice. But my bank account left me the with the choice; either a cabin in the woods or stock up on massive supply.

Now that I have the cabin I want to stock over there, not in my current house. I have a fresh water lake close to the cabin with lots of fish.

I do have a weapon to hunt, but I rather invest in fishing rods etc.
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Forgot to mention; the main reason I don't stock here is because I live in a crowded place. When people get hungry they are going to raid everyone.
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Hmm thanks for the advice. But my bank account left me the with the choice; either a cabin in the woods or stock up on massive supply.

Now that I have the cabin I want to stock over there, not in my current house. I have a fresh water lake close to the cabin with lots of fish.

I do have a weapon to hunt, but I rather invest in fishing rods etc.
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Fishing is one of those perfect activities where, no matter how you do it, you can't do it totally wrong.

The rod and fancy line is just a means to get the bait further away from yourself than you can easily do otherwise. The wind, current, and your brain can make up for both of those if you just have a hook, some line, and something a fish would maybe want to eat.
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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
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Both...have supplies and hunt/gather also, you'll need to get through one growing season if you don't have a garden already...learn canning and other ways to preserve and store food too.
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^^^That^^^

You do not want to have to take to the woods to hunt immediately after SHTF. The woods will be full of morons that will fire every time a twig moves. These are the same idiots who will waste much of the game they take (that is if they are actually able to hit something) or hide & try to steal your kill.

Sit tight for about 6 weeks until the first couple of death waves pass. Then the woods will be safer. I would also try to use a bow for the first 6-12 months depending on conditions -- it is quiet & will not alert any crazy within a 3 miles radius that you are there & possibly could be an "opportunity" for them.
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Try hunting when there is 12 feet of snow outside

Some people need a brian. Even the hunter/trappers from hundreds of years ago sold their pelts to buy sugar/flour/clothes.
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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11222564


Both...have supplies and hunt/gather also, you'll need to get through one growing season if you don't have a garden already...learn canning and other ways to preserve and store food too.
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^^^That^^^

You do not want to have to take to the woods to hunt immediately after SHTF. The woods will be full of morons that will fire every time a twig moves. These are the same idiots who will waste much of the game they take (that is if they are actually able to hit something) or hide & try to steal your kill.

Sit tight for about 6 weeks until the first couple of death waves pass. Then the woods will be safer. I would also try to use a bow for the first 6-12 months depending on conditions -- it is quiet & will not alert any crazy within a 3 miles radius that you are there & possibly could be an "opportunity" for them.
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Hmm great advice. But a regular 'long bow' or a crossbow? Are they easy to handle? Not too expensive I see.. Great advice!

I practice fishing for 12 years now, mainly as a hobby. But I did some training where I only had fish to maintain alive. It worked great but you have to have patience, observation and have to use your brain! But everyone can do it..
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Try hunting when there is 12 feet of snow outside

Some people need a brian. Even the hunter/trappers from hundreds of years ago sold their pelts to buy sugar/flour/clothes.
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You can hunt in the summer and survive of the food you caught..
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I personally prefer a recurve. I have a Martin X-200 with a 40 lb pull. I learned as a teenager on a recurve, so that is what I use. I have chosen not to learn the compound or crossbow as I do not want to deal with too many moving parts that could malfunction WTSHTF. Simpler is better in those conditions in my opinion.

With that said, it is my understanding that a crossbow is much easier to learn & a compound can deliver far heavier poundage in a fire with less exertion on the shoulders. If you do not have a lot of time to learn & practice accurate shots, then a crossbow may be a better choice for you.

I am a petite woman, hence the 40lb bow; for a man, a 55-65 pound draw should not be difficult for you & will enable you to take larger game. My 40lb pretty much maxes me out at white tail deer. A 50 pound plus can take you up to elk, moose, bear, etc.

Maybe some of the men on here can chime in to give you better "guy" advice on bow types.
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Try hunting when there is 12 feet of snow outside

Some people need a brian. Even the hunter/trappers from hundreds of years ago sold their pelts to buy sugar/flour/clothes.
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That will be great when a bartering system is established. Till then it will be necessary to hunt during the more moderate months & preserve you harvest -- game as well as garden produce.

The first couple of years will be very tough until trusted bartering systems can be established.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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I personally prefer a recurve. I have a Martin X-200 with a 40 lb pull. I learned as a teenager on a recurve, so that is what I use. I have chosen not to learn the compound or crossbow as I do not want to deal with too many moving parts that could malfunction WTSHTF. Simpler is better in those conditions in my opinion.

With that said, it is my understanding that a crossbow is much easier to learn & a compound can deliver far heavier poundage in a fire with less exertion on the shoulders. If you do not have a lot of time to learn & practice accurate shots, then a crossbow may be a better choice for you.

I am a petite woman, hence the 40lb bow; for a man, a 55-65 pound draw should not be difficult for you & will enable you to take larger game. My 40lb pretty much maxes me out at white tail deer. A 50 pound plus can take you up to elk, moose, bear, etc.

Maybe some of the men on here can chime in to give you better "guy" advice on bow types.
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Thanks! I will look in to it when I have the time and will ask some professionals. My girlfriends family is Russian and they have a lot of survival skills that they were born with it seems. Her granddad always goes out hunting with a crossbow, so I can ask him what is the best buy. Many thanks.

Oh btw the best country to go when TSHF and you don't want to stumble upon other (maybe crazy) hunters, is Russia. I've been there many times (also hunting etc) There are huge forests and you can easily live if you know what to do.
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Everyone left will be hunting. There is only so much natural meat.

There will be no managing of these natural resources when people are desperate, afraid and hungry.

Better have armed guards that can take on on the military to protect your garden.

Just sayin.

Civil society shuts down when one has starving children.

Best to do everything in your power to educate as many people about who the evil ones are.

The most effective garden is the garden of knowledge with fertile seeds of truth, bravery and love.

Here's is seed for you to plant....Building Seven.

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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
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if you plan to hunt with a firearm when SHTF, you'll end up dead.

you need to learn how to hunt silently, and without eating up calories, so unless you're using a bow, you might need to learn how to trap.
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I haven't done any fishing in decades but just the other day I went through everything, replacing what I had to. Buying more of what I might need. Making sure everything still works. Ready to rock....
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For you Prepper Fishermen, Check your state Fish and Game operations. Most states "stock" lakes and streams with Fish.

If there is no one to "stock" these lakes and streams with fish, and the number of people planning it live off fishing increases.... well you get the picture.

Besides "sport" fishing, or rod and reel fishing is very ineffective vs the time involved.

Nets and trapping are the best methods for survival prepping.
That is why the Fish and Game Depts will not let you use them, because they are to quick and effective.
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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11222564


if you plan to hunt with a firearm when SHTF, you'll end up dead.

you need to learn how to hunt silently, and without eating up calories, so unless you're using a bow, you might need to learn how to trap.
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Plus I have invested a lot in fishing material. I own 14 rodds and have loads of material to get some fish in every condition!
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Try hunting when there is 12 feet of snow outside

Some people need a brian. Even the hunter/trappers from hundreds of years ago sold their pelts to buy sugar/flour/clothes.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower

Whether you hunt or garden or both , you need to plan to store the excess for the Winter months.
This means canning or dehydration of vegetables and smoking or jerking or another method of storing the meat or fish.
You need to get comfortable using those methods now, before its to late to "practice" and improve you skills.
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To the cabin, add 200# rice & 200# dried beans. Store in a clean, new steel trash can.

This, with your garden & hunting & fishing will take you far, for a very low price.
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Tyranny Law #2:
"Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it."

Tyranny Law #3:
"If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail."
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OP is ignorant on many counts.

Should've gone to Scandanavia; not Germany.
Better damn well have your own food and self-sufficiency for preparation, cooking, water supply. If you figure to harvest game, best know how to trap and snare.

Got money? Stock supplies and move your family to your remote location. Get there now and become established. No other way to be sure you will make your move intact under crisis circumstances.
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hunt ?

some places in merica didn't report a deer population until 20 years after the first depression
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That is why I will be hunting with a Hawk and Falcon.
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OP is ignorant on many counts.

Should've gone to Scandanavia; not Germany.
Better damn well have your own food and self-sufficiency for preparation, cooking, water supply. If you figure to harvest game, best know how to trap and snare.

Got money? Stock supplies and move your family to your remote location. Get there now and become established. No other way to be sure you will make your move intact under crisis circumstances.
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I'm not rich. I try my best to survive a collapse. I do more then other dutchies
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I'm training to hunt, fish and gather. Bought myself a nice cabbin in german woods where I can live with some family members.

What do you guys prefer. To stay put in your house full of food, or do it the way I am training for..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11222564


Both...have supplies and hunt/gather also, you'll need to get through one growing season if you don't have a garden already...learn canning and other ways to preserve and store food too.
 Quoting: BRIEF


^^^That^^^

You do not want to have to take to the woods to hunt immediately after SHTF. The woods will be full of morons that will fire every time a twig moves. These are the same idiots who will waste much of the game they take (that is if they are actually able to hit something) or hide & try to steal your kill.

Sit tight for about 6 weeks until the first couple of death waves pass. Then the woods will be safer. I would also try to use a bow for the first 6-12 months depending on conditions -- it is quiet & will not alert any crazy within a 3 miles radius that you are there & possibly could be an "opportunity" for them.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Very wise advice!
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WTF!? I am OP and I got banned while posting in this thread.. Why!??

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