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Is Obama Introducing National Socialism to the United States?

 
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After Adolf Hitler rose to power, Germany issued debt free government money based on human labour. Within two years unemployment had disappeared and the country was back on its feet. Germany had a stable currency, no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries were still out of work and living on welfare. The national restoration programme of Nazi-Germany started with public works. Projects earmarked for funding included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and construction of new buildings, roads, bridges, canals, and port facilities and later also for the military.

One billion bills of exchange, called Labour Treasury Certificates were issued to cover the cost. Millions of people were put to work on these projects and the workers were paid with the Treasury Certificates. The workers then spent the certificates on other goods and services, creating more jobs for more people. Economist Henry C.K. Liu wrote the following about Germany's remarkable transformation:

The Nazis came to power in Germany in 1933, at a time when its economy was in total collapse, with ruinous war-reparation obligations and zero prospects for foreign investment or credit. Yet through an independent monetary policy of sovereign credit and a full-employment public-works program, the Third Reich was able to turn a bankrupt Germany, stripped of overseas colonies it could exploit, into the strongest economy in Europe within four years, even before armament spending began.

Germany rose from depression to the strongest economy in the world in five years time. The success was based on balancing the rewards for labour and capital and economic stimulus. Germany managed to restore foreign trade although it was denied foreign credit and was faced with an economic boycott abroad. The lack of foreign credit and the boycott meant that the effects of the economic stimulus remained within the borders of the country because Germany could not buy foreign goods and services on credit. Nazi-Germany demonstrated that it is possible to rebuild an economy on the national level while being cut off from international finance and trade.

[link to www.naturalmoney.org]

It does not look like Obamanomics to me.
 Quoting: niphtrique


Fair enough.
But Hitler's goal was to use fascist techniques to strengthen his country. Obama is using fascist techniques to destroy ours.
 Quoting: The Governor

Sorry but National Socialism is not fascism. It got inspired by Italian Fascism, mussolini and such. They used militarism too. Also, it is a nationalist ideology. This is what fascism means.
It was proven already that Socialism can only work if it is National, for your own folk and nation.

Obama is not a nationalist. He keeps giving out money to Israel and other countries to promote the zionist american imperialism. Obama is a globalism puppet. A puppet of the world finance. If you don't understand that Hitler lost in WW2 and the allies (USA block and Soviet block) took over with their policies I don't know what else can I tell you...

Open your eyes.
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we can argue about the systematic of the technical name for what is happening but i think we can all agree that what is happening is the destruction of the USA as we know it.

anyone one that was born before 1970 knows what's happening.

most of those born later got swallowed and fooled by the system, not saying EVERYONE but alot of them.

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Fair enough.
But Hitler's goal was to use fascist techniques to strengthen his country. Obama is using fascist techniques to destroy ours.
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Within the current economic model you can choose between deficit spending/austerity or socialism/capitalism. Both will end in disaster. The real cause of the problems lies in the nature of our money system in which interest on money is charged. Interest causes wealth to concentrate as the poor pay interest to the rich. Interest can therefore be seen as a tax on poverty to the benefit of the rich. Money in the bank is backed by debt, so interest is a fraud that forces the poor into debt if the rich do not take the money out of their accounts and spend it. The following example demonstrates this and also that interest on money is unsustainable and leads to crisis:

"If someone brought a 1/10 oz gold coin to the bank in the year 1 AD, and the money remained there until the year 2000 AD, collecting a yearly interest of 4%, the amount of gold in the account would have been 3.6 * 10^31 kilogramme of gold weighing 6,000,000 times the complete mass of the Earth."

When interest is charged on a limited scale or over a short timeframe then those problems do not surface. Interest is an insidious process. Over time it is inescapable that it reduces large numbers of people to a state of servitude to the money lenders. This is a long term development that transcends the life span of a human. Interest is the main reason why a number of civilisations have failed and why Western civilisation is about to fail. Therefore all interest is usury and the current financial system is a usury financial system. Interest is also the cause of inflation as more and more money has to be created to keep the economy going.

Any analysis that does not identify interest as the core problem will not bring a solution.
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Absolutely 1000% correct. Nothing will matter until our monetary policies are fixed. We're all just re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. That's why it doesn't matter how many people are on welfare and how much taxes are. The only thing that does matter is that it will end badly someday until money is fixed.

There's no amount of austerity that can be done to fix anything and there's no possible way to grow economies enough to fix problems because economies only grow through more debt. The world has reached its debt limit.

It's all a giant sham that was designed thousands of years ago. It's always been designed to fail, but before it does, the few people benefiting from it gather everything they possibly can before it's started over.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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Obama as Nazi when his pedigree is clearly Jewish Marxist?


* David Axelrod – Special Adviser to the President; Axelrod is the Jew who manufactured Obama as a political force: he is a major business and political insider, especially among the heavily moneyed Chicago Jewish elite like the Pritzkers and many others

* Jared Bernstein – Chief Economist and Economic Policy Adviser to the Vice President [ECONOMICS]

* Rahm Emanuel - White House Chief of Staff; son of a Zionist terrorist; dual-citizen of Israel and America (Emanuel served in Israel’s military during the First Gulf War instead of the U.S. military); used Jewish ethnic networking to land a lucrative job at an investment bank despite having no prior experience in business (he made over 15 million dollars in less than 3 years at the firm); despite supposedly being a “distribute the wealth” Democrat Emanuel was the top House recipient of monetary donations from Wall Street, hedge funds, private equity fund, banks, and the overall financial industry during the 2008 election cycle…even as the financial markets nearly collapsed in 2008 [ECONOMICS]

* Federal Reserve – The Jews Bernanke, Kohn, Warsh, and Kroszner are still heading the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve (the main group which oversees all of the other regional Federal Reserve branches), while the Jew Fred Mishkin recently resigned from the Board yet still remains very influential there; Daniel Tarullo, a recent Obama appointee to the Board and your typical shadowy figure who is so often installed to run the Fed, is pending confirmation (he is possibly Jewish – Jews often chang(ed) their too Jewish surnames to Italian surnames in order to blend in to America and elsewhere more easily); there are more vacancies of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors which will likely be filled by Obama fairly soon, and they are likely to be Jews even though they already hold the majority of the seats overseeing the 12 separate Fed branches; also, Paul Volcker (who is the Chair of Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board [and former Chairman of the Fed]) is said to be partially Jewish according to some sources [ECONOMICS]

* Tim Geithner – Treasury Secretary; all reliable information points to him being ethnically Jewish (at least partially), but if not he definitely married in to The Tribe (m. Carole Sonnenfeld, 1985); he has been President of the New York Fed (which is by far the most powerful and influential branch of the Fed) during the major economic crisis (2007-present) which has utterly decimated the American economy and brought us to the brink of a depression – and now this guy is put in charge of the Treasury? [ECONOMICS]

* Gary Gensler – Chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission; hmmm, is it coincidental that, time after time after time, a Jew is put in charge of regulating the economic activity of other Jews in banks and on Wall Street? If it happens here and there, it’s no big deal…but if you examine the data you will have much to be suspicious about considering this has been a repeating pattern since at least the 1960s in America [ECONOMICS]

* Elena Kagan – Solicitor General

* Sally Katzen – Major legal adviser to Obama-Biden

* Ron Klain – Chief of Staff to the Vice President: yes, the Chief of Staff for both Pres. Obama and VP Biden are Jews…meaning they have control of the overall schedule and access to these leaders on a day to day basis

* Eric Lander AND Harold E. Varmus – Co-Chairs of the President’s Council of Advisers on Science/Technology

* Jacob Lew AND James Steinberg – Deputy Secretaries of State, second in rank only to Hillary Clinton in foreign policy matters (meaning if something happens to her one of them will take over, giving a Jew yet another major Cabinet slot); both of these people are hardcore Zionist Israel Firsters, so it is difficult to imagine how they will remain objective and neutral when it comes to dealing with foreign policy matters in the Middle East

* Ellen Moran – White House Director of Communications

* Peter Orszag – Director of the Office of Management and Budget [ECONOMICS]

* Penny Pritzker – Obama’s National Finance Chair during the election cycle; she is a billionaire heiress of the Pritzker family fortune (at least 5-7 separate billionaires in the family); the Pritzkers are major players in the ’squeaky clean’ Chicago political scene [ECONOMICS]

* Robert Reich – Economic adviser to Obama-Biden [ECONOMICS]

* Dennis Ross – Obama’s Ambassador-At-Large in the (Entire) Middle East, Obama’s “top envoy” (so much for diplomatic neutrality in the Arab/Israeli Conflict – MEANING NOTHING CHANGES); he co-authored Obama’s groveling June 2008 speech at the AIPAC conference; also served in the HW Bush and Clinton Administrations under which little progress was made in the Israeli/Palestinian issue

* Robert Rubin – Economic adviser to Obama-Biden; well-known as former Treasury Secretary and ultra-greedy Wall Street slime [ECONOMICS]

* Daniel B. Shapiro – Head the Middle East Desk at the National Security Council (yet another ‘neutral diplomatic Jew’ when it comes to foreign policy matters involving the Middle East); also a major Washington lobbyist and fundraiser for the Democratic Party

* Mary Schapiro – Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission; a very entrenched Jewish bureaucrat who has served in every Presidential administration since Reagan; also an executive for Duke Energy and Kraft Foods (what ever happened to conflicts of interest?); identical to the Gary Gensler scenario in that this Jew has been put in charge of ‘regulating’ the chaotic swarm of greedy Jews on Wall Street and in banks nationwide…and no one believes this might be a problem given the very long and storied history of Jewish white collar crime? It’s not a problem that Jewish white-collar crime is so very linked with the nepotistic and/or ethnic networking abilities of Jews to cover each others tracks in order to evade regulatory or legal authorities? Schapiro has been Chairman of the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority since 2007 (i.e., ever since the economy started to implode) – and now she is, like Gensler, getting even more ‘regulatory’ authority? Didn’t the Madoff rip-off teach the government anything? [ECONOMICS]

* Phil Schiliro – Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs (likely Jewish: he was Henry Waxman’s long-time Chief of Staff)

* Lawrence (Larry) Summers – Director of the White House National Economic Council; a Clinton repeat, greedy Wall Street executive, and World Banker; yet another devious Jew stooge a la Gensler/Schapiro/Bernanke/Greenspan/Wolfensohn/etc/etc who is supposed to be studiously regulating the very financial industry Jews which paid them tens of millions in the private sector just a few years before they took a government job because they wanted to ’serve their country’ – yeah, that’s real likely. [ECONOMICS]

* Mona Sutphen – Deputy White House Chief of Staff; 2nd behind Emanuel
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Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20413827


cluepon...blacks were originally sold by their own.
you failed high school history didntcha?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Even if blacks in power sold their fellow man, whites (specially Portuguese and English) had a lot to deal with this....

I am pretty sure the average black slave was NOT OK to be sent in a ship to work for whites, they would have rather just stood in mother Africa chilling, Africa is or was land of resources, plenty of animals, perhaps weed and vegetables... sadly it has been polluted and poisoned in the last decade by western powers and bad environmental strategies..so it is getting like haiti in some parts..


Point is.. it's not national socialism,or communism, it is survive if you can out there... and if it does change there has to be a HUGE change in GLOBAL economics, meanwhile if the dollar is still up, it must be capitalism.

And if you complain about those people that get foods tams... realize that they aren't getting that much, you cannot get a decent life with their benefits, they need social security numbers in order to get those foodstamps (so illegal immigrants are out of this myth)and so much money is being spent overseas killing people in the name of our oil masters.. that foodstams shouldn't upset you that much..

this society is unfair and cruel... that's capitalism... take a look at norway or sweden, they know how to make things right to people... company shares of productivity to its employees, high taxes but best healthcare, universities, roads, social programs, the best paid employee doesn't get more than 6 times as much as the lowest... it's like communism and everyone is rich..


Sorry, America fails..
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Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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cluepon...blacks were originally sold by their own.
you failed high school history didntcha?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Regardless, they never chose to come here.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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cluepon...blacks were originally sold by their own.
you failed high school history didntcha?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Regardless, they never chose to come here.
 Quoting: jcab2002


no its NOT regardless - dude youre speaking shit in the defacto sense when its actually in the disinfo margin.

when your mother spit you out of the watermelon leg toss, did the lemon hole canal cut off your air supply? sheesh.
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Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20413827


cluepon...blacks were originally sold by their own.
you failed high school history didntcha?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Even if blacks in power sold their fellow man, whites (specially Portuguese and English) had a lot to deal with this....

I am pretty sure the average black slave was NOT OK to be sent in a ship to work for whites, they would have rather just stood in mother Africa chilling, Africa is or was land of resources, plenty of animals, perhaps weed and vegetables... sadly it has been polluted and poisoned in the last decade by western powers and bad environmental strategies..so it is getting like haiti in some parts..


Point is.. it's not national socialism,or communism, it is survive if you can out there... and if it does change there has to be a HUGE change in GLOBAL economics, meanwhile if the dollar is still up, it must be capitalism.

And if you complain about those people that get foods tams... realize that they aren't getting that much, you cannot get a decent life with their benefits, they need social security numbers in order to get those foodstamps (so illegal immigrants are out of this myth)and so much money is being spent overseas killing people in the name of our oil masters.. that foodstams shouldn't upset you that much..

this society is unfair and cruel... that's capitalism... take a look at norway or sweden, they know how to make things right to people... company shares of productivity to its employees, high taxes but best healthcare, universities, roads, social programs, the best paid employee doesn't get more than 6 times as much as the lowest... it's like communism and everyone is rich..


Sorry, America fails..
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Great post.

And one more thing to add - how many years of welfare would the ongoing bank bailouts pay for? They have been given around $30 trillion so they can continue to pay out their billions in bonuses and destroy the world economy and the middle class. A person who steals a tv can go to prison for 30 years while a person who steals a few billion gets his wrist slapped.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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cluepon...blacks were originally sold by their own.
you failed high school history didntcha?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Regardless, they never chose to come here.
 Quoting: jcab2002


no its NOT regardless - dude youre speaking shit in the defacto sense when its actually in the disinfo margin.

when your mother spit you out of the watermelon leg toss, did the lemon hole canal cut off your air supply? sheesh.
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Why is it NOT regardless? Did slaves choose anything? NO. So regardless, it does not matter whose fault it is, but it's certainly not the slaves' fault.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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Blacks are abandoning the Democratic Party
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This is the dumbest fucking article I've seen in my life, posted by the dumbest forum moderator on the internets.


"Consider his 983 executive orders, compared with George W. Bush’s 63."

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What will happen when the Fed owns my mortgage with their QE3 bail outs.


My mortgage is owned by Freddie or Fannie, I can't remember which, but these will be the first bought by the FED during QE3.

The fed power really make me afraid. I think my home will become government property.
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What will happen when the Fed owns my mortgage with their QE3 bail outs.


My mortgage is owned by Freddie or Fannie, I can't remember which, but these will be the first bought by the FED during QE3.

The fed power really make me afraid. I think my home will become government property.
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it won't be "government" property, it will become a "bank-owned" property.
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Worse...National Banality
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This is nothing close to socialism. Big business and banks run this country. In socialism, they're owned by the people. We have the opposite of socialism - fascism.

The freebies handed out (and they're really not much at all, just crumbs) are nothing compared to the freebies handed out to businesses who are guaranteed their monopolies and the right to rip everyone off, start wars and take away freedom. The freebies are just enough to stave off revolution and keep things the way they are for as long as possible.
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your version of socialism is the textbook pipedream they sell to poor dopes. When in reality it's a totalitarian mechanism that strangles the freedom and producing power of many at the expense of an "elite" few. It's been the SAME WAY every single time in every socialist/communist shithole that has ever existed. It's the sheep being led to the slaughter with a sign that says "free lunch and haircut".
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cluepon...blacks were originally sold by their own.
you failed high school history didntcha?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Regardless, they never chose to come here.
 Quoting: jcab2002


no its NOT regardless - dude youre speaking shit in the defacto sense when its actually in the disinfo margin.

when your mother spit you out of the watermelon leg toss, did the lemon hole canal cut off your air supply? sheesh.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Why is it NOT regardless? Did slaves choose anything? NO. So regardless, it does not matter whose fault it is, but it's certainly not the slaves' fault.
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no YOU SAID Blacks were slaves from the whites
and thats disinfo dumbass
they were sold by their own.

quit deterring from your own fail
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This is nothing close to socialism. Big business and banks run this country. In socialism, they're owned by the people. We have the opposite of socialism - fascism.

The freebies handed out (and they're really not much at all, just crumbs) are nothing compared to the freebies handed out to businesses who are guaranteed their monopolies and the right to rip everyone off, start wars and take away freedom. The freebies are just enough to stave off revolution and keep things the way they are for as long as possible.
 Quoting: jcab2002


your version of socialism is the textbook pipedream they sell to poor dopes. When in reality it's a totalitarian mechanism that strangles the freedom and producing power of many at the expense of an "elite" few. It's been the SAME WAY every single time in every socialist/communist shithole that has ever existed. It's the sheep being led to the slaughter with a sign that says "free lunch and haircut".
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Call it whatever you want, but the end result of all forms of government is statism. Karl Marx was right. The only superior way is anarchy. I view that as complete freedom, not violent chaos.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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What will happen when the Fed owns my mortgage with their QE3 bail outs.


My mortgage is owned by Freddie or Fannie, I can't remember which, but these will be the first bought by the FED during QE3.

The fed power really make me afraid. I think my home will become government property.
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it won't be "government" property, it will become a "bank-owned" property.
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So, essentially nothing changes?
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Oh Jesus, and you quote that fucking 983 number... what a lie the OP is.
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eat a bag of dicks mick - you gotta problem with the article take it up with the author. truth hurts doesnt it fukko?
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I'm an American... once again you can't get the facts straight... but sure, enjoy living in your little vortex of BS..
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Regardless, they never chose to come here.
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no its NOT regardless - dude youre speaking shit in the defacto sense when its actually in the disinfo margin.

when your mother spit you out of the watermelon leg toss, did the lemon hole canal cut off your air supply? sheesh.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Why is it NOT regardless? Did slaves choose anything? NO. So regardless, it does not matter whose fault it is, but it's certainly not the slaves' fault.
 Quoting: jcab2002


no YOU SAID Blacks were slaves from the whites
and thats disinfo dumbass
they were sold by their own.

quit deterring from your own fail
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I did not say that. I said that slaves didn't choose anything. Go reread. And stop being such an asshole. I am not calling you names.
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must be sad when a free phone can influence a vote.
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Even cheaper because it is a tracking device also....going to know where all the hand out people live......LOL
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Oh Jesus, and you quote that fucking 983 number... what a lie the OP is.
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eat a bag of dicks mick - you gotta problem with the article take it up with the author. truth hurts doesnt it fukko?
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I'm an American... once again you can't get the facts straight... but sure, enjoy living in your little vortex of BS..
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post fail. nice try shill
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no its NOT regardless - dude youre speaking shit in the defacto sense when its actually in the disinfo margin.

when your mother spit you out of the watermelon leg toss, did the lemon hole canal cut off your air supply? sheesh.
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Why is it NOT regardless? Did slaves choose anything? NO. So regardless, it does not matter whose fault it is, but it's certainly not the slaves' fault.
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no YOU SAID Blacks were slaves from the whites
and thats disinfo dumbass
they were sold by their own.

quit deterring from your own fail
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I did not say that. I said that slaves didn't choose anything. Go reread. And stop being such an asshole. I am not calling you names.
 Quoting: jcab2002


this dude did & youre agreeing with it cocksnot. no diff between that tard & you

Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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Why is it NOT regardless? Did slaves choose anything? NO. So regardless, it does not matter whose fault it is, but it's certainly not the slaves' fault.
 Quoting: jcab2002


no YOU SAID Blacks were slaves from the whites
and thats disinfo dumbass
they were sold by their own.

quit deterring from your own fail
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


I did not say that. I said that slaves didn't choose anything. Go reread. And stop being such an asshole. I am not calling you names.
 Quoting: jcab2002


this dude did & youre agreeing with it cocksnot. no diff between that tard & you

Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


All I said was that they never chose to come here, which was his main point. Stop being a prick.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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no YOU SAID Blacks were slaves from the whites
and thats disinfo dumbass
they were sold by their own.

quit deterring from your own fail
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I did not say that. I said that slaves didn't choose anything. Go reread. And stop being such an asshole. I am not calling you names.
 Quoting: jcab2002


this dude did & youre agreeing with it cocksnot. no diff between that tard & you

Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


All I said was that they never chose to come here, which was his main point. Stop being a prick.
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youre so
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Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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cluepon...blacks were originally sold by their own.
you failed high school history didntcha?
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Sad fact is this point is not taught in high school anymore.
It might offend some people. Youngest son just graduated last year and got in too a lot of trouble for pointing this fact out. Was told he should not know of this part of history unless he was in college and majoring in history.
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I did not say that. I said that slaves didn't choose anything. Go reread. And stop being such an asshole. I am not calling you names.
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this dude did & youre agreeing with it cocksnot. no diff between that tard & you

Phenomenon.. National Socialism is also known as Naziism.. I

Blacks were slaves from the whites, forced to be here, they never chose to come here



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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


All I said was that they never chose to come here, which was his main point. Stop being a prick.
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youre so
ownd

rofl

footinmout
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Are you 12? You haven't answered a single point I've made in this thread. All you do is call people names. It makes you look like you have no point or lack the ability to reason.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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this dude did & youre agreeing with it cocksnot. no diff between that tard & you

...

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All I said was that they never chose to come here, which was his main point. Stop being a prick.
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youre so
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rofl

footinmout
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Are you 12? You haven't answered a single point I've made in this thread. All you do is call people names. It makes you look like you have no point or lack the ability to reason.
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i most certainly have assfuck. ive corrected you too. wehhhh1youre just all butthurt now.
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What will happen when the Fed owns my mortgage with their QE3 bail outs.


My mortgage is owned by Freddie or Fannie, I can't remember which, but these will be the first bought by the FED during QE3.

The fed power really make me afraid. I think my home will become government property.
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it won't be "government" property, it will become a "bank-owned" property.
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So, essentially nothing changes?
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yup, except instead of many different banks holding the mortgages, it'll be just one, the Fed.
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Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

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BLACK SLAVEOWNERS

By Robert M. Grooms

u00a9 1997
(THIS ARTICLE IS COPYRIGHTED AND IS PROVIDED HERE COURTESY OF THE BARNES REVIEW)


Sesquicentennial Monthly:

Congress Plans Freedom for the Slaves, What Happened in December 1860?, What Happened in January 1861?, The Confederate Government is Formed



In an 1856 letter to his wife Mary Custis Lee, Robert E. Lee called slavery "a moral and political evil." Yet he concluded that black slaves were immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially and physically.


The fact is large numbers of free Negroes owned black slaves; in fact, in numbers disproportionate to their representation in society at large. In 1860 only a small minority of whites owned slaves. According to the U.S. census report for that last year before the Civil War, there were nearly 27 million whites in the country. Some eight million of them lived in the slaveholding states.


The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves (1). Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves).


In the rare instances when the ownership of slaves by free Negroes is acknowledged in the history books, justification centers on the claim that black slave masters were simply individuals who purchased the freedom of a spouse or child from a white slaveholder and had been unable to legally manumit them. Although this did indeed happen at times, it is a misrepresentation of the majority of instances, one which is debunked by records of the period on blacks who owned slaves. These include individuals such as Justus Angel and Mistress L. Horry, of Colleton District, South Carolina, who each owned 84 slaves in 1830. In fact, in 1830 a fourth of the free Negro slave masters in South Carolina owned 10 or more slaves; eight owning 30 or more (2).


According to federal census reports, on June 1, 1860 there were nearly 4.5 million Negroes in the United States, with fewer than four million of them living in the southern slaveholding states. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country's leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city.


To return to the census figures quoted above, this 28 percent is certainly impressive when compared to less than 1.4 percent of all American whites and less than 4.8 percent of southern whites. The statistics show that, when free, blacks disproportionately became slave masters.


The majority of slaveholders, white and black, owned only one to five slaves. More often than not, and contrary to a century and a half of bullwhips-on-tortured-backs propaganda, black and white masters worked and ate alongside their charges; be it in house, field or workshop. The few individuals who owned 50 or more slaves were confined to the top one percent, and have been defined as slave magnates.


In 1860 there were at least six Negroes in Louisiana who owned 65 or more slaves The largest number, 152 slaves, were owned by the widow C. Richards and her son P.C. Richards, who owned a large sugar cane plantation. Another Negro slave magnate in Louisiana, with over 100 slaves, was Antoine Dubuclet, a sugar planter whose estate was valued at (in 1860 dollars) $264,000 (3). That year, the mean wealth of southern white men was $3,978 (4).
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Free Blacks in the US also owned slaves. Again something not taught in school or college unless you are majoring in US American history.

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