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The universal Jesus Christ was known in the heavens by those of all cultures as the great cross.

 
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The universal Jesus Christ was known in the heavens by those of all cultures as the great cross.
A return of the universal. They knew the Jesus Christ of the cross within the universal hunab ku. The great cross in the sky. What was made manifest in heaven so came to earth.



The most famous of the katun prophecies in the Books of Chilam Balam are predictions of the coming of Christianity and the Spanish Conquest, purportedly made decades, or even centuries, before the arrival of the Europeans in the Yucatan. The most complete version of the prophecy is attributed to "Chilam Balam, the singer, of Cabal-chen, Mani," a chilan who the Books tell us lived shortly before the Conquest, in the katun 2 Ahaw which began in about 1500.
The singer of Cabel-chen's prophecy is for katun 13 Ahaw, which ended about 1539. Cortez reached Mexico is 1519, near the beginning of the katun; The Spanish established themselves at Merida in the Yucatan at the end of the katun. The Book of Chilam Balam of Chuyamel records the prophecy thus:


The prophecy of Chilam Balam, the singer, of Cabal-chen, Mani. On [the day] 13 Ahau the katun will end in the time of the Itzá [a people of the Yucatan], in the time of Tancah [Mayapan, the last Maya city to dominate the Yucatan], Lord. There is the sign of Hunab-ku [the one true God] on high. The raised wooden standard [Christian Cross] shall come. It shall be displayed to the world, that the world may be enlightened, Lord. There has been a beginning of strife, there has been a beginning of rivalry, when the priestly man shall come to bring the sign [of God] in time to come, Lord. . . .
Receive your guests, the bearded men, the men of the east, the bearers of the sign of God, Lord. Good indeed is the word of God that comes to us. The day of our regeneration comes. . . .

The First Tree of the World [The World Tree, a symbol of the cosmos associated with the Christian cross by the Maya] is restored; it is displayed to the world. This is the sign of Hunab-ku on high. Worship it, Itzá. You shall worship today his sign on high. You shall worship it furthermore with true good will . . . You shall be converted to the word of Hunab-ku, Lord; it came from heaven.

Believe in my word itself, I am Chilam Balam, and I have interpreted the entire message of the true God. (Chapter XXIV)


This prophecy is the last of a series of five reproduced in the Chuyamel and several other Books of Chilam Balam. They are contained in separate chapters from the other katun prophecies in the Books. As we have them, these prophecies have almost certainly been re-worked after the time of the events they predict, by Maya writers who had accepted at least a semblance of Christianity.

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Re: The universal Jesus Christ was known in the heavens by those of all cultures as the great cross.
Why can so many not see the fullness of Jesus Christ? He promised to come for the world. All our desires and thoughts have been made manifest in the meridian of time. Now we approach to coming of the great cross and we still can't see with wholeness.


He so whoever believe sahll have everlasting life. Isn't this how reality is set up.

The World Tree is the most pervasive Mesoamerican symbol of the creation and ordering of the world. It is the axis of the Earth-Sky. Its roots lie in Xibalba, the Underworld, and its top reaches into the heavens. After the Conquest, the World Tree came to be identified with the Christian Cross. The Cross, conceived as a living thing, continues to figure in Maya religious practices that combine Christianity and native traditions. See Raising the Sky: The Maya Creation Myth and the Milky Way at this web site for more about World Tree symbolism.

Right: The World Tree is symbolized in the heavens by the Milky Way
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The Maya long count measured the time elapsed since creation of the present world. Classical Maya creation accounts suggest that this world began after dissolution of a previous world that had lasted 13 baktuns. The baktun is 20 katuns in length. The tzolk'in date at the beginning of the long count was 4 Ahaw. The count will reach a total of 13 baktuns again on a katun 4 Ahaw end date, in 2012 AD (according to he GMT correlation between the Maya and European calendars).
No Maya text actually tells us explicitly what the Maya believed would transpire in 2012 AD, but the the end of the cycle was no doubt regarded as a highly significant time of transition between epochs. According to the Books of Chilam Balam, Kulkulcan will return in katun 4 Ahaw . Prophecy of the return of this deity, transformed in the Books into predictions of the coming of Christianity, may have originally been inspired in part by the coming end of the long count cycle.
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Katun 4 Ahau . . . . The katun is established at Chichen Itzá. The settlement of the Itzá shall take place [there]. The quetzal shall come, the green bird shall come. Ah Kantenal shall come. Blood-vomit shall come. Kukulcan shall come with them for the second time. [It is] the word of God. (Book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel, XXII)

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