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Message Subject Who is Jesus Referencing When saying "THEY"
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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As i posted earlier, "they" are those who do not understand the parables.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2566322


careful with your tense, the "they" only applies to the eye witnesses who saw Jesus preach

to attempt to apply the "they" from Matthew chapter 13 to anyone else but those alive at that particular time who saw Jesus preach is wrong
 Quoting: Sugarelf


OP bolded "they" in verse 13:

13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Yes, Christ and the disciples are talking about the multitudes of people who are listening to Jesus preach. Verse 13 is very specific at defining who "they" are. "They" are the people who do not have eyes to see and ears to here. "They are those who have not been given understanding to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven (verse 11)

Think of the Parable of the Sower, not all seeds will grow (with understanding). Not everyone is given the spirit of understanding...

Romans 11:8 states:

(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

Follow the subject in Matthew 13, the disciples asked Christ why he spoke to the multitude in parables.
Christ then explains that he is speaking in parables to the people, because only some are meant to understand the parables, not all.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2566322


So if we are all "God's" creation, then why would Christ only want a few to understand instead of all? I thought Christ on the cross was salvation for all, this seems like salvation for the few.

Is it possible that some people aren't as they seem and just replicants of the evil one, whom arent even real we just percieve them as so?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18228844


The Word says what it says and if it offends people that's just too bad.

Christ does want salvation for all:
2nd Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

This doesn't really have anything to do with people who don't understand parables. Just because they don't understand doesn't mean that they will perish. Salvation is based on repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ.

However some people choose to be ignorant, and God will allow them to slumber if they so choose. Personally, I'd be careful about judging a person to hell based on their knowledge - let's let God do the judging, only He knows the hearts of people.


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