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what a pile of crap.

and quite enews and fukushima diary for your so called "facts"
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what a pile of crap.

and quite enews and fukushima diary for your so called "facts"
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applause2
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what a pile of crap.

and quite enews and fukushima diary for your so called "facts"
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agreed, im tired of these cheap two cents web sites giving japan a bad rep, they're only in business because of little pimple necked teenagers who want to see more tragedy inflicted on people they dont know anything about, from the comfort of their computer chair.
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what a pile of crap.

and quite enews and fukushima diary for your so called "facts"
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applause2
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Send better trolls
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oh no what are you talking about this is not fukushima. heh, thats preposterous. fukushima has been in cold shutdown for nearly a year.

Japan needs to restart all its nuclear reactors, because they are infact very safe. And no accident will happen again now they are so much safer than ever before.
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anti-nuclear shills???

I dont think it takes a shill to point out the bleeding obvious.


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anti-nuclear shills???

I dont think it takes a shill to point out the bleeding obvious.



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is that you cesium? :)
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Thread: Fukushima is the largets whitewash and the most serious dilmma we have...

irradiation of short-lived isotopes gleaned for use as "cold shut-down" excuse.. remember they, and the US forgot to monitor uranium and plutonium and amercurium and lead and....... much longer lived elements..... funny that... heard anything lately about "contiguous
and continueous monitoring"?... heard anything about the deadly cores and not more about anything bar the spent fuel pools ;)?...think not...

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what a pile of crap.

and quite enews and fukushima diary for your so called "facts"
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agreed, im tired of these cheap two cents web sites giving japan a bad rep, they're only in business because of little pimple necked teenagers who want to see more tragedy inflicted on people they dont know anything about, from the comfort of their computer chair.
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Keep watching NHK they now whats good for you to know...

And kids won`t learn about it in textbooks either?

Like Japan atrocities in China? oh thats right that didn`t happen either?

whatever

V D R
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Especially you guys from Japan need to know Fukushima was no accident, it was Mossad's greatest crime.
The truth is that the computer systems were attacked (specifically the Siemens industrial controls) by a virus/worm called Stuxnet. Stuxnet was created to attack the uranium enrichment equipment in Iran which used the same Siemens software as Fukushima.
This malware is Extreamly sophisticated and attacks particularly speed controlled motors like that in the centrifuges in an enrichment facility or pumps (as well as valves) in a reactors cooling system. It destroys them by setting up destructive resonations that permanently disable the target while also sending false readings to the control room so the the operators don't know anything is happening.
I suspect it has code designed to detect and "piggy back" onto any other unusual occurances with the aim of concealing its involvement in whatever results. Hence it would have been triggered to go into action by the automatic shutdown that the earthquake would have triggered.
Stuxnet was discovered in Japan several months before the disaster and it may have been a complete accident that Fukushima was infected Or it may have been deliberately targeted as a pay-back for Japan offering to enrich uranium for Iran.
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bump for truth

thats correct.

And people still fail to see this?
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Stuxnet, a virus by the mossad manipulated fukushima

watch this





On 3/11/11, Reactors 1, 2, 3, and 4 were utterly destroyed, with 1, 3, and 4 suspiciously exploding.

Though Stone only got direct evidence of a nuke planted at Reactor 3, which produced the mushroom cloud, it is rational to believe Reactors 1 and 4 also had them, with 4 exploding even though it had no fuel core installed at the time.

The lesser magnitude of the explosions at Reactors 1 and 4 can be attributed to the fact that gun-type nukes are not consistent in their yield. Reactor 3's detonation might also have gotten a boost from the pressure released in a reactor pressure vessel breach -- a sensible conclusion in that the reactor is completely gone. Stuxnet appears to have affected all of the reactors' control systems, crippling generators and shutting valves. Problems at Reactor 2 appear to be Stuxnet-related only. All four were fatalities.


[link to www.henrymakow.com]
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Especially you guys from Japan need to know Fukushima was no accident, it was Mossad's greatest crime.
The truth is that the computer systems were attacked (specifically the Siemens industrial controls) by a virus/worm called Stuxnet. Stuxnet was created to attack the uranium enrichment equipment in Iran which used the same Siemens software as Fukushima.
This malware is Extreamly sophisticated and attacks particularly speed controlled motors like that in the centrifuges in an enrichment facility or pumps (as well as valves) in a reactors cooling system. It destroys them by setting up destructive resonations that permanently disable the target while also sending false readings to the control room so the the operators don't know anything is happening.
I suspect it has code designed to detect and "piggy back" onto any other unusual occurances with the aim of concealing its involvement in whatever results. Hence it would have been triggered to go into action by the automatic shutdown that the earthquake would have triggered.
Stuxnet was discovered in Japan several months before the disaster and it may have been a complete accident that Fukushima was infected Or it may have been deliberately targeted as a pay-back for Japan offering to enrich uranium for Iran.
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bump for truth

thats correct.

And people still fail to see this?
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utter crap fukashima is a pile of crap , id swim in the reactor tommorrow , bunch of idiots
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utter crap fukashima is a pile of crap , id swim in the reactor tommorrow , bunch of idiots
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you cunt

read my posts above
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utter crap fukashima is a pile of crap , id swim in the reactor tommorrow , bunch of idiots
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would you now.. nice to type it on the idiot-net.. wanker...

send photos or it never happened.. ringer your uncle to verify..... we have ways :P

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 10/06/2012 07:51 AM
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bump
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utter crap fukashima is a pile of crap , id swim in the reactor tommorrow , bunch of idiots
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would you now.. nice to type it on the idiot-net.. wanker...

send photos or it never happened.. ringer your uncle to verify..... we have ways :P
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most time you make no sense.
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isn't a precursor to cancer simply being alive?
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Yeah, People like this Oz-Guy really demand that
we make a Biopsy in every Person of northern Japan,
because People like him do not know the dangers of it!

In Japan nearly 50% of the People die because of Cancer,
in the same Time Japan hold the oldest Population of the
whole World, so we need to ask:
"How normal is Cancer in the elderly Population"!
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Yeah, People like this Oz-Guy really demand that
we make a Biopsy in every Person of northern Japan,
because People like him do not know the dangers of it!

In Japan nearly 50% of the People die because of Cancer,
in the same Time Japan hold the oldest Population of the
whole World, so we need to ask:
"How normal is Cancer in the elderly Population"!
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japandrum Perhaps a more appropriate question might be:

How normal is cancer amongst children, teenagers and young adults.
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jmount BUMP
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Yeah, People like this Oz-Guy really demand that
we make a Biopsy in every Person of northern Japan,
because People like him do not know the dangers of it!

In Japan nearly 50% of the People die because of Cancer,
in the same Time Japan hold the oldest Population of the
whole World, so we need to ask:
"How normal is Cancer in the elderly Population"!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Perhaps a more appropriate question might be:

How normal is cancer amongst children, teenagers and young adults.
 Quoting: Judethz


A primary health concern among residents and evacuees in affected areas immediately after a nuclear accident is the internal exposure of the thyroid to radioiodine, particularly I-131, and subsequent thyroid cancer risk.

In Japan, the natural disasters of the earthquake and tsunami in March 2011 destroyed an important function of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (F1-NPP) and a large amount of radioactive material was released to the environment.

Here we report for the first time extensive measurements of the exposure to I-131 revealing I-131 activity in the thyroid of 46 out of the 62 residents and evacuees measured.

The median thyroid equivalent dose was estimated to be 4.2 mSv and 3.5 mSv for children and adults, respectively, much smaller than the mean thyroid dose in the Chernobyl accident (490 mSv in evacuees). Maximum thyroid doses for children and adults were 23 mSv and 33 mSv, respectively.

[link to www.nature.com]

More Anti-Nuclear Fearmongering: Thyroid Growths in Fukushima
Last week, the conspiracy theorist blogosphere latched onto a story claiming that “36 percent of Fukushima children have abnormal thyroid growths.” The story was also picked up by Michael Kelley of Business Insider, who wrote sensational articles blaming the thyroid growths on Fukushima.

There are major problems with the story being told by Kelley and the conspiracy theorist bloggers.

We do not have data about the number of thyroid growths found in years before the Fukushima accident.
The 36 percent result is compared to data from a 2001 study that found thyroid growths in less than 1% of children in Nagasaki. However, comparisons between the two are very difficult to make because the Nagasaki study used entirely different methods and only reported on nodules/cysts larger than 5.0 mm. The most recent Fukushima data reports on growths of all sizes, with nodules smaller than 5.0 mm accounting for much of the infamous 36 percent.

[link to www.japanprobe.com]

Non-Fukushima children to be checked for thyroid abnormalities
"It is not unusual for benign thyroid lumps to be found in healthy people, but Japan lacks epidemiological data on this," a member of the Cabinet Office's medical support team for nuclear victims said. "The exams will be conducted as far away from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant as possible, where the radiation has no influence."
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

Radioactive iodine uptake test
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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what a pile of crap.

and quite enews and fukushima diary for your so called "facts"
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Yeah, because blanketing a dense population with 100 times the radiation from Chernobyl will NEVER result in any sort of medical problems like the ones all over former Soviet down-winders.

Never happen. Ever.
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Medically speaking, there IS an upside for the Japanese and that is that they eat a ton of fish and get iodide from the air.

This would mean they have a higher resistance to thyroid-attacking radio-nuclides that your average sheep. But, there was so much other stuff released, they are fucked.

Japanese cancer rates will go up by 10,000% over the next 10 years. That is a scientifically and medically solid number.
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They need to stop breeding NOW...
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Medically speaking, there IS an upside for the Japanese and that is that they eat a ton of fish and get iodide from the air.

This would mean they have a higher resistance to thyroid-attacking radio-nuclides that your average sheep. But, there was so much other stuff released, they are fucked.

Japanese cancer rates will go up by 10,000% over the next 10 years. That is a scientifically and medically solid number.
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How do the Iodine Intake from Fukushima can be so small
(see above your Posting, first Source from Nature)
compared to Chernobyl but you say that F'Shima emit
100 Times as much of Radioactivity than the Accident in
the Soviet Union?
The median thyroid equivalent dose was estimated to be 4.2mSv and 3.5mSv for children and adults, respectively, much smaller than the mean thyroid dose in the Chernobyl accident (490mSv in evacuees). Maximum thyroid doses for children and adults were 23mSv and 33mSv, respectively.
[link to www.nature.com]


What are the "solid Numbers" and when we can find this Numbers?

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The numbers are here... scroll through to the Chernobyl part of the documentary (it is rather long, but very informative for the main stream media to put out)

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Arnie should focus on the Nuclear Hardware
and not on Medicine!

But in total he may be right,
"F'Shima will cause ca. 1.000.000 cases
of Cancer" this is very close to what we
expect (ca. 800.000) in the next 100 Years,
but he made the mistake to call them
already Death and this is wrong.

For example Thyroid Cancer comes with
a 98% Chance for Healing!

Japan is not like the Soviet Union or the
Ukraine/ Belorussia, our medical System
is much more advanced than the East in 1986!
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98% chance of healing.. where is your data you liar.... 1.5-2% chance of thyroid embolisms normally... you are defending a proven, documented rate of minimum 32%?......... STFU......
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