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DHS Fusion Centers: Intelligence---"Irrelevant" and "Useless"

 
AmericanJedi
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DHS Fusion Centers: Intelligence---"Irrelevant" and "Useless"
[link to www.theatlanticwire.com]

The fusion centers, described by Jane Napolitano as "one of the centerpieces of our counterterrorism strategy," allegedly invade the privacy of Americans while producing "shoddy" reports that are typically "irrelevant" and "useless." It's the sort of report that will find a home on every Ron Paul fan forum and, according to reporters, with good reason: The 77 centers, which have cost an estimated $289 million to $1.4 billion, have a pretty questionable track record. Here are some of the more surprising elements journalists have dug up from the report:

So, are we better off than we were ten years ago? Billions of dollars later? Nope. In fact, we're more fucking vulnerable because military, law enforcement, and intelligence are bogged down with useless, bullshit number crunching!

All this fear of 'Big Brother and Sister' is turning them into bloated, irrelevant paper tigers.
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This would be comical if it were so fucking sad.
(GLP aka American Jedi)

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Kenny Powers

If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare.
American Jedi

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Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum....

"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
Billy_Sastard

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10/03/2012 11:07 AM
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From my personal experience, the only thing the local fusion center has done around here is make 10x more work for law enforcement, especially the dispatchers, during times when they already are overloaded, such as the recent local motorcycle rally where the fusion center called up the chief of police and asked that EVERY SINGLE contact a cop made with someone be faxed to the fusion center.
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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10/03/2012 11:11 AM
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From my personal experience, the only thing the local fusion center has done around here is make 10x more work for law enforcement, especially the dispatchers, during times when they already are overloaded, such as the recent local motorcycle rally where the fusion center called up the chief of police and asked that EVERY SINGLE contact a cop made with someone be faxed to the fusion center.
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


That's just idiocy. Every contact? Based on what? That their might be a 'domestic baddie' in the group? Wow. The idiocy of facism is it's ultimate undoing.

It eats itself.
(GLP aka American Jedi)

Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth.
Kenny Powers

If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare.
American Jedi

Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them.
Albert Einstein

Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum....

"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
Billy_Sastard

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10/03/2012 11:19 AM
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Re: DHS Fusion Centers: Intelligence---"Irrelevant" and "Useless"
From my personal experience, the only thing the local fusion center has done around here is make 10x more work for law enforcement, especially the dispatchers, during times when they already are overloaded, such as the recent local motorcycle rally where the fusion center called up the chief of police and asked that EVERY SINGLE contact a cop made with someone be faxed to the fusion center.
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


That's just idiocy. Every contact? Based on what? That their might be a 'domestic baddie' in the group? Wow. The idiocy of facism is it's ultimate undoing.

It eats itself.
 Quoting: AmericanJedi


This was my thought exactly when I heard the head of dispatch talking about it. She was not too pleased either, by the tone of her voice, and the other dispatchers were obviously pissed about it. I think that by the end of the weekend they were only faxing over important incidents due to the extreme load they were under.
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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[link to www.whistleblower.org]
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
:abomb::abomb::abomb:
BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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Nothing like watching various government employees bitching about the "other" bureaucrats and goberment employees. Especially when discussing something critical, like policing a parade.

Send them ALL packing with nothing more than a copy of "How Green Was My Valley" as a severance.
End of budget problem.
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10/03/2012 11:26 AM
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Nothing like watching various government employees bitching about the "other" bureaucrats and goberment employees. Especially when discussing something critical, like policing a parade.

Send them ALL packing with nothing more than a copy of "How Green Was My Valley" as a severance.
End of budget problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24876103


Honestly, we need cops. Hell, we need FBI and CIA. We just need them to do their fucking jobs and quit looking at anyone who reads the Constitution of the United States of America as some sort of Tim McVeigh lurking with a Ryder full of fertilizer and diesel.

Really, it's kind of fucking stupid.
(GLP aka American Jedi)

Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth.
Kenny Powers

If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare.
American Jedi

Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them.
Albert Einstein

Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum....

"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
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10/03/2012 11:34 AM
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Nothing like watching various government employees bitching about the "other" bureaucrats and goberment employees. Especially when discussing something critical, like policing a parade.

Send them ALL packing with nothing more than a copy of "How Green Was My Valley" as a severance.
End of budget problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24876103


Honestly, we need cops. Hell, we need FBI and CIA. We just need them to do their fucking jobs and quit looking at anyone who reads the Constitution of the United States of America as some sort of Tim McVeigh lurking with a Ryder full of fertilizer and diesel.

Really, it's kind of fucking stupid.
 Quoting: AmericanJedi


Agreed. Sadly, nobody in LEO wants to give up a dime or take any personal responsibility for their actions. Now, even the most unelightened among us can see that there were reasons domestic spying by LEO was once considered a crime.
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Re: DHS Fusion Centers: Intelligence---"Irrelevant" and "Useless"
Nothing like watching various government employees bitching about the "other" bureaucrats and goberment employees. Especially when discussing something critical, like policing a parade.

Send them ALL packing with nothing more than a copy of "How Green Was My Valley" as a severance.
End of budget problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24876103


To tell you the truth, part of me would welcome such a change. I am currently a govt employee, yes, but I hate seeing all of the waste around me and actually do what I can to save the taxpayers dollar, even if I feel like the dutch boy with his finger in the hole in the dam while everyone around me is poking bigger holes :\
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
:abomb::abomb::abomb:
BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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10/03/2012 11:36 AM
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Re: DHS Fusion Centers: Intelligence---"Irrelevant" and "Useless"
Nothing like watching various government employees bitching about the "other" bureaucrats and goberment employees. Especially when discussing something critical, like policing a parade.

Send them ALL packing with nothing more than a copy of "How Green Was My Valley" as a severance.
End of budget problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24876103


bump
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Nothing like watching various government employees bitching about the "other" bureaucrats and goberment employees. Especially when discussing something critical, like policing a parade.

Send them ALL packing with nothing more than a copy of "How Green Was My Valley" as a severance.
End of budget problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24876103


To tell you the truth, part of me would welcome such a change. I am currently a govt employee, yes, but I hate seeing all of the waste around me and actually do what I can to save the taxpayers dollar, even if I feel like the dutch boy with his finger in the hole in the dam while everyone around me is poking bigger holes :\
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


Thats good to hear - and good to learn. Thanks. Sincerely.

From this poor citizens view; I sit here at the Canadian border, on what has been an open border since the French Trappers settled the area, watching millions being spent daily on cameras to spy on recreational boaters and simple fishermen. Every night, a parade of million dollar watercraft, with nothing significant to do, joy-ride the border. It's a disgusting display in the face of politicians ranting about the need for austerity.

In the old days, heads on pikes or tar and feathers would have been the citizens response. Today, we go shopping and bitch.

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