The Conquering Weapon~What Sword did the Saints use to Overcome the Great Red Dragon?

Secondly, how do we use that weapon?

We do as they did who overcame "by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

The blood of the Lamb signifies, first, the death of the Son of God.
The sufferings of Jesus Christ might be set forth by some other figure, but his death on the cross requires the mention of blood.
Our Lord was not only bruised and smitten, but he was put to death. His heart's blood was made to flow.

He of whom we speak was God over all, blessed for ever; but he condescended to take our manhood into union with his Godhead in a mysterious manner.

He was born at Bethlehem a babe, he grew as a child, he ripened into manhood, and lived here among us, eating and drinking, suffering and rejoicing,
sleeping and labouring as men do. He died in very deed and of a truth, and was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathaea.

That death was the grand fact which is set forth by the words "the blood of the Lamb."
We are to view Jesus as the Lamb of God's passover: not merely separated from others, dedicated to be Israel 's memorial, and consecrated to divine service,
but as the Lamb slain.

Remember, that Christ viewed as living, and not as having died, is not a saving Christ.

He himself saith, "I am he that liveth and was dead."
The moderns cry, "Why not preach more about his life, and less about his death?"
I reply, Preach his life as much as you will, but never apart from his death; for it is by his blood that we are redeemed.

"We preach Christ."

Complete the sentence.

"We preach Christ crucified," says the apostle.

Ah, yes! there is the point. It is the death of the Son of God which is the conquering weapon.

Had he not poured forth his soul unto death, even to the death of the cross-had he not been numbered with the transgressors,
and put to a death of shame-we should have had no weapon with which to overcome the dragon prince.

By "the blood of the Lamb" we understand the death of the Son of God.

Hear it, O men! Because you have sinned, Jesus dies that you may be cleared from your sin.
"He his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree," and died that he might redeem us from all unrighteousness.

The point is his death, and paradoxically, this death is the vital point of the gospel.

The death of Christ is the death of sin and the defeat of Satan, and hence it is the life of our hope, and the assurance of his victory.

Because he poured out his soul unto the death, he divides the spoil with the strong.

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A sword is a person.

Next, by "the blood of the Lamb" we understand our Lord's death as a substitutionary sacrifice.

Let us be very clear here. It is not said that they overcame the arch-enemy by the blood of Jesus, or the blood of Christ, but by the blood of the Lamb;
and the words are expressly chosen because, under the figure of a lamb, we have set before us a sacrifice.

The blood of Jesus Christ, shed because of his courage for the truth, or out of pure philanthropy, or out of self-denial, conveys no special gospel to men,
and has no peculiar power about it. Truly it is an example worthy to beget martyrs; but it is not the way of salvation for guilty men.

If you proclaim the death of the Son of God, but do not show that he died the just for the unjust to bring us to God, you have not preached the blood of the Lamb.

You must make it known that "the chastisement of our peace was upon him," and that "the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all," or you have not declared
the meaning of the blood of the Lamb. There is no overcoming sin without a substitutionary sacrifice.

The lamb under the old law was brought by the offender to make atonement for his offence, and in his place it was slain:
this was the type of Christ taking the sinner's place, bearing the sinner's sin, and suffering in the sinner's stead, and thus vindicating the justice of God,
and making it possible for him to be just and the justifier of him that believeth.

I understand this to be the conquering weapon-the death of the Son of God set forth as the propitiation for sin. Sin must be punished:
it is punished in Christ's death.

Here is the hope of men.

as a soldier past and present and hopefully in what is to come.i can not hope to be able to use the weapons of the past ,but if it won the war i will,i can not hope to urs the ways of war from the past

Charles Spurgeon continues:


Furthermore, I understand by the expression, "The blood of the Lamb," that our Lord's death was effective for the taking away of sin.
When John the Baptist first pointed to Jesus, he said, "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."

Our Lord Jesus has actually taken away sin by his death.

Beloved, we are sure that he had offered an acceptable and effectual propitiation when he said, "It is finished."

Either he did put away sin, or he did not. If he did not, how will it ever be put away? If he did, then are believers clear.

Altogether apart from anything that we do or are, our glorious Substitute took away our sin, as in the type the scapegoat carried the sin of Israel into the wilderness.
In the case of all those for whom our Lord offered himself as a substitutionary sacrifice, the justice of God finds no hindrance to its fullest flow:
it is consistent with justice that God should bless the redeemed.

Near nineteen hundred years ago Jesus paid the dreadful debt of all his elect, and made a full atonement for the whole mass of the iniquities of them that
shall believe in him, thereby removing the whole tremendous load, and casting it by one lift of his pierced hand into the depths of the sea.

When Jesus died, an atonement was offered by him and accepted by the Lord God, so that before the high court of heaven there was a distinct removal of sin
from the whole body of which Christ is the head.

In the fulness of time each redeemed one individually accepts for himself the great atonement by an act of personal faith, but the atonement itself was made long before.

continued:

I believe this to be one of the edges of the conquering weapon. We are to preach that the Son of God has come in the flesh and died for human sin,
and that in dying he did not only make it possible for God to forgive, but he secured forgiveness for all who are in him.

He did not die to make men savable, but to save them.

He came not that sin might be put aside at some future time, but to put it away there and then by the sacrifice of himself;
for by his death he "finished transgressions, made an end of sin, and brought in everlasting righteousness."

Believers may know that when Jesus died they were delivered from the claims of law, and when he rose again their justification was secured.

The blood of the Lamb is a real price, which did effectually ransom. The blood of the Lamb is a real cleansing, which did really purge away sin.
This we believe and declare; and by this sign we conquer.

Christ crucified, Christ the sacrifice for sin, Christ the effectual Redeemer of men, we will proclaim everywhere, and thus put to rout the powers of darkness.

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Hi my good friend

That was some fantastic reading- thank you!

I love Charles Spurgeon. He was one of the best there ever was, in bringing out the deeper meanings of scripture. I couldn't agree with him more on this. If it wasn't for the "Blood of the Lamb" (Jesus), we all would still be in our sin.

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Spurgeon should be good. Any commenter from that time period.

Charles Spurgeon speaking more about the Great Red Dragon:

....the serpent mightily developed.
He is called a great red dragon: huge in bulk and terrible in appearance is this emblem of evil,
and he is clothed with the horrible splendor peculiar to himself—the splendor of deadly hate and imperious rebellion.

Bright and burning, like flames of fire, the huge serpent is terrible to gaze upon. The python is red with wrath, and encrimsoned with persecuting malice.

This great red dragon is full of craft, for it has seven heads. One Satanic head were enough, but our great enemy possesses an almost perfect ingenuity of wickedness,
he uses a wisdom all but infinite to effect the overthrow of the church of God and the destruction of Christ and the rest of the heavenborn seed among men!

These seven heads are supplemented by ten horns, the emblems of power, for the prince of the power of the air is by no means weak;
he has, in fact, more power than wisdom, having but seven heads to ten horns, and yet since according to the order of nature each head should have two horns,
we may also say that he has not power enough to execute all that his wicked cunning enables him to invent.

By the power wielded by the dragon, he leads men to rebel against the law of the Lord, and induces them to persecute the church.
The power of evil is great in all lands, and as opposed to a defenseless woman in a sorrowful condition, it seems quite impossible that she should stand against it.

The heads are also crowned, for Satan sways with more than regal power the minds of men; he is the god of this world, it lieth in the wicked one.
He delights to display that power, and trusts much to outward pomp, therefore he wears seven crowns upon his seven heads,
as if one diadem were not sufficient to denote his kingship.

His enormous energy is also set forth by his lashing the skies in his fury and tearing down a third part of the stars—it is evermore his ambition
to deepen darkness and destroy light, and terribly successful has he been in this his choicest pastime.


And when Mary is about to bring forth the promised seed:

See, then, before you the woman in her brightness and loveliness and the dragon in his rage and power.
The dragon is watching for the expected birth, he is eager to devour the man-child as soon as it is born,—the ideal man,
the offspring of the divine life he longs to destroy. It was so when our Lord Jesus was born;

Satan stirred up Herod to seek the young child, and hence the massacre of the innocents.
But the dragon was foiled, Jesus lived till his hour was come, and then he was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Thus also Satan strove to devour the new-born seed, when the converts to Christ were few, and mystical body upon earth was like unto that of a little child.
He persecuted the man-child when first the gospel was preached; but the more his servants persecuted the saints, the more they multiplied.

The method followed by Pharaoh in Egypt was a crafty one, but it did not and could not succeed.

Persecution always fails.

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Hello friend,

If you get a chance, read the link I posted above, actually, it is the same link posted here:

By the blood of the Lamb we overcome Satan as the accuser of the brethren.

he accuses the brethren day and night;

and there is an instructive tradition among the Jews that Satan accuses the elect of God all day and all night long, except on the day of atonement, and then he is quiet.
Glory be to the dying Lamb, the atonement shuts the mouth of the lion continually, for the atonement lasts all the year round.

Neither in the court of Heaven, nor in the court of conscience, can the enemy's accusations harm us, for the blood of our Substitute is a bar to all suits against us.

If we by faith are assured that Jesus has put away our sin, what cause have we for alarm?

If the punishment due to our sin, and the sin itself have both been carried away by our great Surety, so that sin is plunged into the depths of the sea,
and cast behind God's back, then who is he that shall harm us?

Brethren, do but grasp the doctrine of the atonement, and know your own interest in it, and the accuser of the brethren will be silenced by the voice of the blood. [link to www.spurgeon.org]

Hello All and what a great day to go with this thread.

Peace...

According to the bible verse above, it is said of the saints, "They overcame him."

What is the conquering weapon?
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Love is the only thing left when one as been strip to the core that is the only Sword one needs to overcome... :)


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We too often think of the saints that have gone before as if they were men of another race from ourselves, capable of nobler things, endowed with graces which we cannot reach, and adorned with holiness impossible to us.

Their light was within, and we may have it; their glory was by grace, and the same grace is available for us.

They were men of like passions with ourselves, "our brethren," though a little elder born.
It is clear from our text that every one of the saints in heaven was assailed by Satan.

How could there be a victory without a battle?

They were all attacked by one or other of the dragon's heads and horns. When you suffer from a fearful temptation which almost stirs you,
count it no strange thing; be not dismayed as though a new temptation had befallen you.

That fiery dart had been aimed at other men's hearts before it was caught upon your shield.

If the insinuation should happen to be profane and blasphemous to a very high degree, so that you condemn yourself and say,
"No other human mind could ever have been defiled with so foul a suggestion as this," do not despond,
for such suggestions have been injected into the minds of the purest,
even as the worst of thieves may seek to enter the house of the most honest man in the city.

Even to those who at this moment are without fault before the throne of God it happened while here below that horrible temptations assailed them.

Satan always has been since his fall a tempter of the worst order, and ever since he first beguiled our mother Eve he has gone on
to ensnare men's souls with the same craft, the same cruelty, the same falsehood, the same impiety against the Lord.

It will help you if you reflect that you are not alone, and the pathway which you follow was trodden by the most honored of the elect of God.

Spurgeon-1875

The Great Red Dragon is China. The sword is the Mormon Sword of Laban now wielded by the Mormon warrior Romney.

Awesome! One of my all time favorite scrips.

Normal housing ?

AMEN!!!!!

Will read later!

God Bless You, Koffee

4 Jesus!

Dragon is a worm like snake and speaks with a forked tounge
Dude in revelation 1 has a sharp double edged sword that comes out of his mouth when he speaks
Maybe his words can combat the lies of Satan

The sword of Truth. Truth will always prevail.

Yes, Truth WILL always prevail!

In Ephesians, the Apostle Paul tells us to put on the full armor of God. The sword he mentions is the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. God's Word is Truth.

Charles Spurgeon is referring to Revelation 12:11 where there it says the saints overcame the dragon by the blood of the Lamb AND by the word of their testimony--Truth spoken.

Hi Koffee,

What a revelation to hear the words 'the BLOOD OF THE LAMB' explained in such an inspired and insightful way. The touches he makes in regards to realizing the total immersement of the believer in the Lamb's Blood was a core principal that I needed to remind myself of.

What that Blood enables the believer to do in Jesus' name is EXPLOSIVE!!!

God Bless You for this thread and posting a wonderful article from an "OVERCOMER"....Spurgeon


Praise Jesus for the Blood He Shed ....to the Cross we are humbly led

FORMATION AND CONSECRATION OF A MAGICAL SWORD


The sword-blade of steel should be forged in the hour of Mars, and new smith's tools should be used. The Pommel should be silver, made hollow, and containing a little quicksilver; the symbols of Mercury and Luna, with the monograms of Gabriel and Samael, should be engraved upon it's surface. The hilt should be encased with tin, and should have the symbol of Jupiter and the monogram of Michael engraved upon it; see Cornelius Agrippa, De Occulta Philasophia, liber iii., cap. 30. There should be a small triangular copper plate extending from the hild up the blade of the sword a short distance on each side; on these should be engraved the symbols of Venus and Mercury.

The guard should end in two curved plates on each side; on these, the words Gedulah, Netzach upon one side, and Geburah, Hod upon the other, should be engraved; and in the middle between them engrave the Sephirotic name, Tiphereth.

Upon the blade itself engrave upon one side Malkuth, and upon the other side the words Quis ut Deus.

The Consecration of the Magical Sword must be performed on Sunday during the Solar hour and under the invoked power of Michael. Drape the Alter, prepare the Tripod, and burn therein the wood of laurel and cypress, consecrate the fire, and then thrust the blade of the sword into it saying, "Elohim Tzaboath, by the power of the Tragrammaton, in the name of Adonai and of Mikael, may this sword become a weapon of might to scatter the beings of the unseen world, may its use in war bring peace, may it be brilliant as Tiphereth, terrible as Geburah, and merciful as Chesed." Withdraw the sword from the fire, and quench it in a liquid composed of the blood of a reptile mixed with the sap to be obtained from a green laurel: then polish the blade with the ashes of vervain carefully burned.

A very interesting question OP!

Care to discuss it over Coffee?