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Never been to jail before now...advice please

 
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Never been to jail before now...advice please
So I got charged with a couple of misdemeanors last night and I'm wondering what to expect from the trial, and maybe some of you can offer some advice also.

So I went out to the bar last night and afterwards went to my friend's house to party before he moves out this week. There were a lot of people there and we got a noise complaint sometime around 3, and a cop showed up. I was on the porch at the time and talked to him when he came up to the house. I cooperated and told everyone they had to go home, helped him get everyone out of the house etc...well, I have a huge problem with authority, and 4 more cops show up, even though we're cooperating fully and people are leaving. They begin demanding that we let them into the house, and I'm starting to seriously run my mouth at them. I definitely went out of line, which I usually do during encounters with police, whether I'm sober or not, but I was still physically cooperating and making sure people were leaving. Eventually I start to leave, still talking a lot of shit, and I'm about 3 houses down from the party house, my back to the house, walking away, and I hear people running up behind me. Next thing I know I'm tackled to the ground and one of the 2 cops who tackled me is choking me. At this point I'm furious, but certainly not physical, I never ever get physical with cops. So I start screaming "I AM NOT RESISTING, STOP CHOKING ME" which obviously only pissed the cops off more. So they arrest me and I wind up downtown, thinking they're just gonna release me in the morning after I sober up....2:30pm rolls around and I'm starting to go crazy, and they take my mugshot, fingerprints, and tell me I'll be seeing a judge. I'm not happy. I got charged with Obstructing a Police Officer's Duty, and Disturbing the Peace.
Now, I agree with the Disturbing the Peace charge, cuz yeah I was screaming and talking shit at 3am...but I was NOT obstructing their duty, in fact I was ASSISTING them in getting people out of the house and home, I just wasn't happy about it and I felt like they were being bullies. So anyway I plead Not Guilty cuz I didn't know what else to do (They DID NOT allow me to call or talk to ANYONE until AFTER I spoke to the judge....I'm not sure if that's even legal) I requested a phone call and consultation from an attorney multiple times and it was denied every time.
My friends bailed me out and I went to work about an hour late, extremely tired from sleeping on a cold stone floor with no shoes or jacket, and with a terrible headache, and a whole lot of anger. And now here I am typing this.

Basically, what do you guys think will happen? Will I go to jail? Will I get probation? Will I just pay the fines and go on my way? Should I plead guilty or try and argue the Obstructing an Officer charge? This is my first offense and I do not have a criminal record.
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10/03/2012 08:50 PM
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Don't drop the soap!
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10/03/2012 08:51 PM
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you should get around 270 days in the county ass pump motel simply for reaching your age and still being a stupid fuck
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Brief will have your answers in

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10/03/2012 08:52 PM
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Get a lawyer immediately!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5700314


What makes you think I've ever been to jail? I'm not stupid...
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10/03/2012 08:55 PM
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You won't get jail for that. If you do get 10 or 15 days, when you go in and fill out the papers make sure you list your religion as Jewish. The food is better.

Everybody else gets the shit made by slovenly blacks, hispanics and wigs in the prison kitchen. The total value of your prison meal will be about 65 cents. If you declare your religion Jewish, you get a kosher meal prepared under the supervision of a rabbi outside the prison. It's worth about $3 and will contain actual meat.

No joke, do it. If any of the other cons ask, tell them you're not really a jew, you're just fucking the system for better food.
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10/03/2012 08:57 PM
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don't ask glp, call a bunch of lawyers and take them up on the free consultations they offer
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They will drob obstruction and you will take a plea agreement for Disturbing the Peace. Do not get an expensive attorney as this is no big deal.

You were drinking I suspect? Expect an evaluation and recommendation to take Alcohol counseling/AA/something. Expect Anger management type classes (probably 3 weeks but possibly weekly/bi-weekly counseling)- There will be fines, court costs and probably 6 months (possible year) of probation. Expect drug testing which YOU will pay for.

-No big deal IF you can follow the terms of probation. Many fuck up during the probation part and then it becomes a whole different ballgame.

Other than that do not worry- These are very minor charges.
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Don't drop the soap!
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+1, and don´t try to catch the soap if something drops it.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5700314


What makes you think I've ever been to jail? I'm not stupid...
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He was referring to dropping the soap
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a misdemeanor I wouldnt worry odds are you will get a fine and probation you cannot get more then a year in county on a misdemeanor unless u have several and they are run consecutive but never seen that happen if you do get jail time you will most likely get work release or work crew sucks but nothing to worry about
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5700314


I'm not stupid...
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hahaha lmfao,
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I appreciate the serious replies, although I'm not sure how serious the Jew one is.. lol

But really folks, I'm not an idiot. I simply do not believe in bowing down to a man just because of his occupation. Cops are guys just like me. They like to drink too. I even asked them that. "Don't you ever like to get fucked up?" They answered yeah... I just don't get it. Authority is fucking retarded. I'm a human fucking being just like you so fuck off I'm not gonna kiss your ass....I'm not one to just sit down and take shit from some bully cop cuz it makes him feel big. Fuck that.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5700314


What makes you think I've ever been to jail? I'm not stupid...
 Quoting: BRIEF


He was referring to dropping the soap
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18304550


Actually I did drop the soap this evening in the shower...I then picked it up without incident though, as I was the only one in there ;)
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I appreciate the serious replies, although I'm not sure how serious the Jew one is.. lol


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Totaly serious. That's pretty common knowledge among those of us who have been in a few times. Decent food makes your stay a little bit nicer I can guarantee.
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10/03/2012 09:04 PM

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don't worry about it .You are out of jail till the court date now.

They will end up just charging you with the disorderly conduct.Call the DA's office in a few days , and see what he is really charging you with.

You might just end up being fined, and waving any jail time.
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Brief will have your answers in

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5700314


What makes you think I've ever been to jail? I'm not stupid...
 Quoting: BRIEF


That never stopped you from giving your dumbass posts before.

And yes, you are stupid...
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I appreciate the serious replies, although I'm not sure how serious the Jew one is.. lol


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17238890


Totaly serious. That's pretty common knowledge among those of us who have been in a few times. Decent food makes your stay a little bit nicer I can guarantee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24906690


What happens if they find out I'm not Jewish?

Also, do you guys think I did the right thing by pleading Not Guilty? Should I have just plead Guilty and hoped for the best, as this is my first offense? I'm kinda scared.
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don't worry about it .You are out of jail till the court date now.

They will end up just charging you with the disorderly conduct.Call the DA's office in a few days , and see what he is really charging you with.

You might just end up being fined, and waving any jail time.
 Quoting: UNIT21


I really hope so...I have a clean record and I work full-time. I'm a good kid, really. Like I said, I just really don't like or respect authority. I definitely learned a lesson though. I'm gonna stay completely under the radar from now on.
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The DA will probably not bring charges.

Collect witnesses just in case.

Can you tell us state and town?
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What makes you think I've ever been to jail? I'm not stupid...
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But the police sure are!

And here is evidence to prove it:

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So I got charged with a couple of misdemeanors last night and I'm wondering what to expect from the trial, and maybe some of you can offer some advice also.

So I went out to the bar last night and afterwards went to my friend's house to party before he moves out this week. There were a lot of people there and we got a noise complaint sometime around 3, and a cop showed up. I was on the porch at the time and talked to him when he came up to the house. I cooperated and told everyone they had to go home, helped him get everyone out of the house etc...well, I have a huge problem with authority, and 4 more cops show up, even though we're cooperating fully and people are leaving. They begin demanding that we let them into the house, and I'm starting to seriously run my mouth at them. I definitely went out of line, which I usually do during encounters with police, whether I'm sober or not, but I was still physically cooperating and making sure people were leaving. Eventually I start to leave, still talking a lot of shit, and I'm about 3 houses down from the party house, my back to the house, walking away, and I hear people running up behind me. Next thing I know I'm tackled to the ground and one of the 2 cops who tackled me is choking me. At this point I'm furious, but certainly not physical, I never ever get physical with cops. So I start screaming "I AM NOT RESISTING, STOP CHOKING ME" which obviously only pissed the cops off more. So they arrest me and I wind up downtown, thinking they're just gonna release me in the morning after I sober up....2:30pm rolls around and I'm starting to go crazy, and they take my mugshot, fingerprints, and tell me I'll be seeing a judge. I'm not happy. I got charged with Obstructing a Police Officer's Duty, and Disturbing the Peace.
Now, I agree with the Disturbing the Peace charge, cuz yeah I was screaming and talking shit at 3am...but I was NOT obstructing their duty, in fact I was ASSISTING them in getting people out of the house and home, I just wasn't happy about it and I felt like they were being bullies. So anyway I plead Not Guilty cuz I didn't know what else to do (They DID NOT allow me to call or talk to ANYONE until AFTER I spoke to the judge....I'm not sure if that's even legal) I requested a phone call and consultation from an attorney multiple times and it was denied every time.
My friends bailed me out and I went to work about an hour late, extremely tired from sleeping on a cold stone floor with no shoes or jacket, and with a terrible headache, and a whole lot of anger. And now here I am typing this.

Basically, what do you guys think will happen? Will I go to jail? Will I get probation? Will I just pay the fines and go on my way? Should I plead guilty or try and argue the Obstructing an Officer charge? This is my first offense and I do not have a criminal record.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17238890


You sir, are a dumb ass. Next time, use your fucking brain...and you won't have to spend the night clinching your ass, and spending $2G to deal with it.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5700314


What makes you think I've ever been to jail? I'm not stupid...
 Quoting: BRIEF


soap droppin racist scumfag
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NEVER plead guilty. Get a lawyer.
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Wear two pairs of underwear and socks. So you can wash one out and still wear the other.
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Lawyer here-make sure (depends on state) the charges don't come with surprises: attachments to handguns, driver license, etc.

Get witnesses, plead not guilty, ask for a trial and make them prove their case. Witnesses that are credible are priceless.

Also, being a jerk to the cops will get you in trouble faster than anything. Defy them by killing them with kindness.
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jail is nothing
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Wear two pairs of underwear and socks. So you can wash one out and still wear the other.
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no one wants your ass in jail, youd just look like a dipshit if you did this
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I appreciate the serious replies, although I'm not sure how serious the Jew one is.. lol


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17238890


Totaly serious. That's pretty common knowledge among those of us who have been in a few times. Decent food makes your stay a little bit nicer I can guarantee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24906690


What happens if they find out I'm not Jewish?

Also, do you guys think I did the right thing by pleading Not Guilty? Should I have just plead Guilty and hoped for the best, as this is my first offense? I'm kinda scared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17238890


Nothing will happen because nobody inside cares whether you are Jewish or not, and nobody can read your mind. It's taken for granted that everybody in there is trying to be something they are not, for instance, a tough guy, an innocent man...

At the trial you are going to have to show some kind of remourse. I'm not saying you have to bow down and suck the cop or judge's cock. Just say you were drunk, which is true, you wish it never happened, which is true, you're sorry you went batshit crazy, which is true, you will not let it happen again, which I hope is true. That kind of thing.

For a first offense, the judge in cases like these is only trying to get you back on the straight and narrow or the reservation if you want to call it that. You have to convince him you've learned your lesson and you're going to be a good little citizen from now on. You have to show a willingness to go back to the reservation. You'll still get spanked, just not as hard.

You still defend yourself in saying that you don't think what you did constituted a crime, but you can admit it might have been not necessarily stellar good Christian behavior either. Having a foul mouth is not a crime, though you do regret it. You make sure the judge knows that's your position. Always downplay rather than deny. The judge is going to believe the cop. He might be willing to buy your story that you yelled and screamed but it didn't ammount to obstruction. Don't deny that you did. That's just an invitation for a beatdown from an indian that doesn't recognize that he has to go back to the reservation.

You look at the whole thing that way and you'll be ok. If you can get a public defender for free do it.

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