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get_over_it

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Wow, great thread OP!

I've just only read the first page, and see that the "knowledge management specialists" aka trolls are out in full force - so you know what you are saying must have hit a nerve somewhere.

You know you are over the target when you start taking flak.

Anyway, all these posters saying "give us more proof or go away etc", wow, is someone forcing you to click on this thread? If you don't like the topic you can't ignore it and are compelled to read it? You must find love in your heart for your fellow man...........

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Not to mention I've read his "cave meditation" that he posted earlier in this thread in a book from around 20 years ago - where you go meet your Inner Self / Guide in a cave, etc. It sure ain't from this guy and his connection to anything secret...
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Wow, great thread OP!

I've just only read the first page, and see that the "knowledge management specialists" aka trolls are out in full force - so you know what you are saying must have hit a nerve somewhere.

You know you are over the target when you start taking flak.

Anyway, all these posters saying "give us more proof or go away etc", wow, is someone forcing you to click on this thread? If you don't like the topic you can't ignore it and are compelled to read it? You must find love in your heart for your fellow man...........

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nah, just trolling the bored, confused and interested..... same old.........
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I love these threads...
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How would you feel if we destroyed all the crystal skulls?
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This thread is great.

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Lucifer/Satan/Devil/Dragon is a liar and the father of it, you can't trust ANYTHING he or his minions tell you, and that includes the OP.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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SolarSon,

Thank you for all that you share with us, takes a lot of courrage!

A lot of what you share is what I have come to remember since a couple of years now. It all started when I had my last child, got married (allways wanted children and wanted to get marrief) and then I realized, I've got everything I have ever wanted.. and now what??? Then soon after that I saw 11:11 on the clock, so many many times and I wanted to know what this is and went on the internet and got lost in the new age crap, another program in the program we all live in. I was feeling some cold around me, my forehead, suddenly smelt things that just were not there.. I was into tarotcards,pendel, angels and tried to meditate, but meditation never felt good! Along the way I got further on the path, now I am finally on my own path again, not listening to others, only following my inner guide (no angels!) which I do not need to contact with while meditating. You wrote about what you can do before going to sleep.. but that does not feel good to me at all! I do relax while laying in bed and go inside of me, not projecting/foccus on the oustide or getting out of my body.. a few years ago I felt like being pulled out of my body, bt everything inside of me kept me in my body, I really got scarred!

I have felt my entire life that this world is not what it seems and I was just pushed away as a child, knowing this, but no one listened, so I just get along with the knowledge of others (school,my parents etc). The whole program so to speak. Now that I am getting to know the real me, this also effects the outer world. I do not fear, let go of emotions and ideas that are not mine at all! simply by going inside.

What I do believe is that we have to go back in ourselfs, breaking the system, not following this matrix, but only follow your self. There are channelings by Galactic Federation of Light, which I never believed in. They tell you how to live, be positive and they will come here one day with their technoligies, cleaning earth etc. On the other hand we have a dark entitie living on planet saturn (Jehova) and control humans by religion,new age,pineal gland,third eye. And that humanity was being cloned many years ago by these dark entities. And the Jehova/Orion group will come to harvest the souls which live by religion and new age rules. I feel that my path will now lead me to a higher dimension/place.. earth/energy will be transformed. I have mixed feeling about earth.. a lot of people worship mother earth and even calling our son 'father'. But lately I got the feeling that giving your light to mother earth, is like giving away your energy/light to the dark entities, is that correct?

The further I go in myself, the more I can let go, knowing how a lot of things in my life were simply in my mind, not in my heart.

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Oh man! And you're a parent of 2 children? I pray that someone else in their life introduces them to Jesus Christ and how selfless, kind, caring, compassionate, and Loving he was and is. Doesn't sound like they'll get that here from you. As a parent myself I feel our main goal in life is to show our children the path to Heaven by our example and helping others. Please don't get hung up in that new age mambo jumbo!
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Solarsun I read everything you said I agree with you in some things. Others you yourself has been decieved. You said you experienced many spiritual experiences. I have as well I assure you that when you enter specially through family into these orders the demonic entities are attached to you from before birth. I am a christian in other words I follow the teachings of Christ Jesus as best as I can. My experiences with the demonic have been very interesting for when the power and presence of GOD is near these things coward in fear. Your not supposed give in to them, and they are not part of you. I have seen these things and I have felt these things literally leave my body. When I have been in spiritual warfare with these these things that were affecting me from within. There is only one way against these things and thats Yeshua. You said yourself that ones that are on top are spirits. Is it not written in scripture test all spirits for they can appear as angels or messengers of GOD. Be careful if these things got a hold on you, dont make peace with then but war against them. Or if not you might find out to late that what you thaught was was not
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Lucifer/Satan/Devil/Dragon is a liar and the father of it, you can't trust ANYTHING he or his minions tell you, and that includes the OP.
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wooord up
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There are those even higher than secret societies in control, and anything on this earth is probably going to be a lie. Something big comes and crushes and puts an end to it all, and I feel it coming.
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Yes, our secret orders and societies have the "administration" higher up, in other words, the Leaderes of the Orders are SPIRIT ENTITIES. They are NOT physical.

Many members of the secret orders dont even know that, specially not the ones of lower degrees.

But when it comes to it, the Secret Orders were put here BY spirit entities - some of them good, some of them evil.

This goes back to what I mentioned earlier, and that the secret orders and those in charge of them were around before the physical world, per se, and the ones in control of either good or evil orders are all spirit entities living in the outer Sphere of Existence

In some orders this is more open than in others. The Freemason order is very selective about this secret and few of the members know, while on the other hand the Rosicrucian Order and even the Theosophical Society are from very to completely open about this. Myself I am active in all 3.
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Not to mention I've read his "cave meditation" that he posted earlier in this thread in a book from around 20 years ago - where you go meet your Inner Self / Guide in a cave, etc. It sure ain't from this guy and his connection to anything secret...
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Da Mo's cave per Glenn Morris's book "Path Notes to an American Ninja."

Someone earlier was saying the OP is mixing truth with lies. I'd argue that statement applies to everyone. The key is to pick out those truths and assemble them from a wide variety of sources.

It's Bruce Lee's style: take what works, discard the rest.
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I can not tell you too much about myself, simply because it would easily identify me in the groups I belong.

What I can tell you is that I am an active member of several secret orders, beyond the mainstream regions of Freemasonry into the higher forms of the inner order of Illuminati.

And I have come here to reveal some of the secrets that I feel are of immense importance to all, as well as certain matters that should be for the benefit of everyone and not just us select few.

None of you know anything of what you think you know - not about us, the ones behind the curtains, nor about yourselves. You have been mislead and led astray since before your birth.

The complexity of it all is so vast that it will take time to detail it for you. Thus I will have to start somewhere, and I will come back to add when the occasion lets me. If time allows, I will also answer questions some may have, as long those questions do not incriminate me or reveal for those who knows me from the inside who I am.

Being here at all is risky enough as it is - take what I tell you for what it is and decide for yourselves what you want to do with the information, or whether I am telling you the truth or not.

Let me start with a short introduction of myself, to at least give you the bones without the meat.

My family have been involved with the secret orders as far back in time I have been able to look back in any of our records. I stepped right into the same as soon I was born.

We have close ties with many of the groups and orders most of you will have heard of - and even more of the ones you will never even find the name of. A lot of the Light shines in the Darkness.

The family I come from has a leadership role and a greater importance within these orders. This has given me an unique access to information, understanding, knowledge and greatly guarded secrets that very few are privileged to.

Being in such a position is very rewarding, and you would probably not even believe all the things we oversee and are witness to - not to mention what we experience and are involved with directly ourselves. A lot of it can't be mention, since doing so would endanger my anonymity.

The reason I have decided to come here to open the lid on the door a bit, is because of both the horrific discoveries I have made during my time on the inside, AS WELL as the WONDERFUL discoveries.

Truly a lot can be said, and probably will, but for now in my first attempt at letting you in on the secrets I must detail the utter most important parts.

First of all: You are IMMENSELY deceived. NOTHING is the way you think it is, and not even close to it either. Everything is a lie, and a great hoax put upon you. This includes your own LIFE, your IDENTITY.

Everything around you have been created and put in place to BLIND you from the truth. The Media, is there to deceive you and keep you away from understanding, your job is there to keep you busy and away from discovering your true self, your favorite hobbies and past-time activities have been designed to maintain your business beyond your job to further mislead you from reality, religion is there to hide the truth, technology, science, medicine, all there to derail you from the truth. The person you love, your own family, they are there to keep you away from the truth.

EVERYTHING AROUND YOU IS A MOCK-UP!

The very Earth under your feet is in place to keep you away from the Truth.

That all may sound preposterous - and I can see why, since it really does sound insane.

But nevertheless, this is the way it really is.

Now this does not mean you are not "real", or that the world, or those things you see around you are not "real". But it does mean that your reality, that which is your everyday, is part of a greater design, spun around you in all its splendor, to maintain you in a level of status quo - to keep you in your current state. Compare it to cows in a field - the field and the farm they live on are real enough, and the cows take it for granted as their everyday life, yet it is still in the end artificially created for the cows to keep them there, as the slaves of the farmer. It is truly a perfect analogy since it is pretty much identical to what is really going on.

In that sense, in YOUR reality, you are the "cows", and the "farmer" is, well, call it the Great Architect of the Universe.

You can also call it the Devil, or Satan - but do NOT call it God.

God did NOT create the World. God did NOT create you. It was a different entity, far from God, in biblical terms you could say it was the "Fallen Angel" mentioned above.

With this I quickly jump through tremendous parts of History, and skip all the important bits in between. We go back to our "present" and Secret Orders - since what I have just mentioned now is one of the MOST guarded secrets of these orders.

And, at the highest level of most orders of any significance this is a well known truth - a truth guarded because of many reasons in itself, but not necessarily for Evil as I will get to in my next post.

It relates to the Secret Orders due to us being in existence since BEFORE the time of the Creation of the illusious world you live within, and the Orders exist on Earth today as the channel that allows for the connection and communication with the Divine, and that which still exists far outside the Spheres of the physical Universe you now experience yourself in.

This is all something I will detail soon, when I have the time to come back to further share some of the secrets I feel must be shared.
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There are some secrets that takes some explaining, and this is one of them. The inner entities mentioned are of a dual nature, meaning they are both "positive" and "negative", an internal part of you - they are the "angels" and "demons" portrayed in cartoons, sitting on the shoulder making you do "good" or "bad" things.

The way you are manipulated by external entities, is through your own Mind, and the Power your Mind has on your Reality. By understanding HOW you are controlled and HOW reality around you manifests, you can learn to be the one IN control of it.

We are the creators of our own World, what we see around us and experience in our lives are the results of what we ourselves project out into the world and everyone and everything there. In a sense, every person is his own walking Universe, where everything is structured according to His or Hers "Inner Self".

Thus, as have been mentioned before, making changes Within Oneself will make changes in what you perceive as the "Outer World". The more balanced and in harmony you are with your True Self within, the more harmony and balance you will experience in the "outside world" and your Life.

This can easily be seen in the World itself by looking at other people and their Lifes. For example, you may find something extremely negative and completely dislike it, while another person really enjoys the same thing and loves it with all his heart. So the question then is not if the "object/thing/event" in question itself is "good" or "bad", "negative" or "positive" - it is why you perceive it as you do, and why someone else can perceive it differently.

The answer goes back to "We create our own World" - what we encounter that we dislike or find bad, negative and so on, are our own responsibility, same for anything we find likeable, good and positive. We have within ourselves, deep in our unconscious level, energies working that are projecting these "experiences" into our world.

One example is the person who always fails at everything he tries, never manages to get a job, is constantly poor and may even live on the street. Most others will look at him as a "failure" and categorize him as that, thinking negative things about him, even if they are thinking compassionate feelings they are often more destructive than helpful, as those who care may think "Oh poor old man who has to live on the street. Hopefully he will get himself together some day" etc - such a thought will only continue to manifest that current reality both for you and the man in question -of him being a poor beggar on the street-, as your image of this person is of one that is poor and living on the street, thus this is the energy you are sending out to the Universe you live within and maintain this creation through your own unlimited powers of your Mind.

Of course many people will just pass the person and barely even notice him or give him a thought, while once in a while there is a person that is somewhat different, and gets the person back "Up and going" so to speak. You could be that person - You could be a person getting YOURSELF "up and going" properly, and thus in turn get others "up and going" in a positive way by influencing everything and everyone around you in a proper and positive way.

When YOU are properly in balance, harmony, at peace and One with yourself, so will the World around you be, and the experiences in your life will flow freely and smoothly in your favor, making things better not only for yourself but for everyone around you and anyone you meet as well.

There is a depth to ourselves that few are aware of, a self deception so grand it is hard to believe and comprehend, but it is possible for us all to understand our true being, and eachother, by gradually working with ourselves and our INNER selves.

Hardly one living person on this planet is their "True Self", they are just a mixed up mash of various other people, the opinions and beliefs of these other people, other energies existing within that in turn CREATES those other people whom affect us and make us do certain things in life and have certain experiences.

Existence is thus in a way "inside out" from the point of view most of us have, thinkink that what we see "out there" is Reality, and that we are Individual Selves making our own decisicions, and to some degree many believe themselves to have a soul deeper within that basically is "Themselves" just as they are now but in spirit form.

Experimentation, testing and experience have shown things to be differently though - it seems that creation is in fact going "backwards" - We are not simply a soul that gets put into a body and then pops out in an already predetermined world. Instead it seems from my experience that we are the Creators of the World we find ourselves in, thus we are responsible for everything happening there to some degree, BUT we ourselves are the creation of Inner Energies, our Ego, which is being maintained and manipulated by other forces and energies, so we do not experience our True Self.

And that is where the Inner Guide can be of great assistance, your Inner Guide is the deepest truest part of yourself, so different from yourself that you will experience Him/Her as some external (or in this case, "internal" being). Your Inner Guide is what has been termed the Holy Guardian Angel and many other things throughout the ages, and its work is to keep your inner Center balanced and in Harmony - as long as you approve it and ask for it.

Once in contact with your Inner Guide, you can change yourself and your experience of the world dramatically - people have been healed from diseases, gone from poor to rich, been getting the gifts to heal others, having all negative influences in their life disappear and much more.

Even within yourself there are many forms of Life and Conscious Beings - for lack of better terms. I will call them energies, and these are the ones popularily called Archetypes, which channel different feelings and emotions, resulting in Causes and Effects both in your Inner World and your Outer World.

These Archetyptical energies we all share, they are part of the Human Collective Unconsciousness, which in turn explain how these energies can affect the world as you perceive it, through the Collective Unconcsciousness.

They are a natural part of us, just like our Soul is, our Mind, our Physical body, they are there within us all perminating all of our existence at all times, just like other things within and without us that we usually do not perceive yet still is there, such as the living cells in our body , the air we breath etc.

Now the good thing is that once you get Consciously Aware of this, you can start working with and exploring these energies to create Inner Changes which in turn will manifest changes in the "Outer World", or your Perceived Reality.

Regarding your Inner Guide, this one is unique to every living person and not "shared" in the way the Archetypes are. Your inner Guide will help you get to know these archetypes, and protect you on your inner journeys, and will be able to assist you in figuring out what archetypes or other energies are affecting a situation in your life, and how you can work with that Inner Energy form to project your situation in a new and better way.

We also have a Shadow Self, deep in our unconcious mind, which consists of your ego with your supressed and repressed feelings, ideas, emotions, beliefs etc - and your Shadow continuously project itself upon everyone in your life, and in turn what you experience back from these other people in your life is an effect of the Shadow you have projected upon them in the first place.

So getting to know your Shadow self, and bring it towards harmony with yourself, along with harmonizing with the Archetypes and other energies within, will result in profound changes both in yourself, as the person you are - going beyond your Ego, discovering your True Self, and help you manifest a new outer projection of Reality.

Within yourself you also have your Center, your inner "Sun", that force which is always there giving life and love, and finding your Center , the Inner Sun, and working with it with your Inner Guide is of great value.

No further introduction is needed for the moment, so I will now descrive the method itself, how you can get in touch with your OWN inner Guide and work with these different energies.

First of all find yourself in a comfortable position either in a nice chair with both feet on the ground, separated not crossed, and your arms by your sides - or simply lie down in bed or on your coach to relax there.

During this meditation it is important that you do not "drift away" or get into a "trance state", you have to be conscious throughout the whole procedure and be aware of everything you do and experience.

Thus you should try to do this when you are fresh and awake and not when tired or sleepy.

Once in your position, mentally imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a cave. Feel and sense yourself there, and experience yourself as being INSIDE your body looking out from your own eyes - this is also crucial for this meditation, you need to experience yourself as "being there" and NOT as if you are watching yourself on a film screen. To "anchor" yourself more within yourself it can be good to touch your surroundings, feel your feet on the ground, notice the details - is the ground flat or bumpy, rocky and solid or sandy, how does it smell in there, do you hear any sounds, how does the walls feel when you touch them with your hands, look at your hands and see what they look like, look down at your body and see what your body and legs look like - how are you dressed?

Make this as vivid and clear as you can in your mind, really sensing yourself as being there and able to have a solid image of the place you are experiencing yourself to be - always go back into "your body" in any place you go during the meditation, should you suddenly see yourself from the outside in the cave, simply slip back inside yourself and make sure you look out through your eyes and see the surroundings as you would in real life, as clear as you can.

Work on this first part for a while so you really get it as strong as you can visually and in your imagination, sensing it as clear and powerful as possible.

If you for some reason do not like caves, you can imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a room, or in a garden etc, just make sure to keep to the same procedure described above.

Now once in your cave, look around and see a door in front of you. This can also simply be a passage, a open portal, or any other sort of opening leading forwards from where you are at, and with an exit behind you from where you came into this cave - similarly imagine such things if you imagine yourself anywhere else than in a cave.

Walk forward, while walking notice the feet stomping on the ground, let your hands touch the surroundings, the rocks, when by the portal touch it, look at it, study it for a while. Then continue forward and through it.

Once you have either gone through it, or if you are walking in a passage, immediately turn to your left and now find yourself in a new landscape, as if you have found your way out of the cave and now are outside the mountain the cave is in. Or out of the house, garden, or whatever else place you may have preferred to imagine yourself.

In either case, after moving forward, and then turning left, notice the landscape your are now in. In the whole process let the images come to you, dont try to force it or create it with your mind, just be open like a blank piece of film where the image is slowly becoming clearer and manifesting itself.

Study these new surroundings, where are you? Inside or outside? Is it hot or cold? Dry or wet? Is the ground hard or soft, is it any smells there, touch your nearby surroundings with your hands and look around.

Then ask for an animal to appear - your power animal - this one can come in any form but it should not be a fantasy animal or any animal you know personally such as your pet. It could be anything from a great eagle, to a frog, to a kangaroo, to a snake, and so on. As soon as your animal arrives look at it, and ask it to lead you towards the RIGHT and to your true Inner Guide.

Follow the animal where its going, if you have problems keeping up with it just let yourself have the ability to move faster, or simply fly above the ground after it. Soon you should be by your Inner Guide that your animal have lead you too.

Start by looking at the feet of your inner Guide, what is he wearing? What kind of footwear, what does he have on his legs, if anything, and continue up through his body noticing every detail of how he looks and what he wears. When you come to the face it may for many be hard to see the face clearly, this is something that is usual for the true Inner Guide, while false guides usually are crystal clear and have faces that are easy to see.

In either case, whether you see his face or not, greet him, and grab both his hands in yours and check how his hands feel, are they soft or rought, cold or warm? Give him permission to let YOU feel how HE feels about YOU.

The feelings from a true Guide should be that of deepest love, acceptance, goodness and kidness in any way. Do you not feel this, call on your True Inner Guide and ask him to appear before you and test again.

Once you have found your Inner Guide, ask him so if he truly is your Inner Guide, and if he can protect you in your Inner World. If he doesnt answer anything but yes to this do the process over again, calling upon your True Inner Guide to be there with you.

The next thing and last test is to ask your guide to point in the direction of your Inner Sun. A false guide will not be able to do this, or stagger or try come up with something else. Once he has pointed at your Inner Sun, look at it, and ask it to come down in a human-like form for you to interact with.

Once the Sun is down, notice the appearance, is he male or female, what does he/she wear, old or young, etc. Take both of the hands of the Sun and ask to be sent as much Light and Love as you can physically handle.

At this point most people will feel themselves overwhelmed with amazing love and sensations that can even result in tears of joy, and blockages and energies are cleansed. Should you not feel much, ask the sun to clear any blockages you have so that the energy can flow freely.

After you have done this, ask the Sun what you need to do for him or in your life to be more in harmony and friends with him. He will usually tell you something which will be beneficial in your general life or the inner work. Then ask him what he has to give to you. He might tell you something, or give you an object with a specific purpose, ask him if unsure what the purpose of the object is and where in your body it will be placed. If the function of the gift is uncertain to you, ask your Inner Guide for clarification.

Then you may ask your inner Guide about the two same things. Then ask him for his name.

At this point I recommend that you return to where you came from, enter the cave, and get out of the meditation bringing with you everything you have learned and write down the whole experience in some sort of log book, which you always should have by your side when doing your meditations.

If you have problems in your life, go and meet your Inner Guide and ask him to explain to you what is causing the problem, or if he can symbolically bring up an image with the solution to the problem. If you are working on issues with other people, then ask the Inner Guide to bring the person you have a problem with to you in your meditation, and then ask him to transform the person to the true form the energy represents in you, this could turn out in many ways such as your angry husband turning into a barking dog etc. Then ask the energy form which you now see in its true form what you can do with it and in your life to be friends with it and harmonize things - ask your Guide if he agrees. You may also ask this energy form if it has a gift for you that you can use similarily to how you asked the Sun and your Guide the same.

Always ask your Guide if the information you receive from other energies/entities are truthful and if advice should be followed or not. Your Guide knows everything about you and what is best for you, always consult him lastly before making any choices.

The energy form mentioned above is one of the inner energies you project outwards to the person that makes him behave the way he does with you. Or if in the case of a specific situation, it is the energy projected out on to the situation itself that make the situation be the way it is for you etc.

These energies do NOT represent the persons or situations themselves, they represents INNER energies that YOU project outwards that causes these behavior and effects in people and events towards you. Thus always work with the Energy Form and never with a Person themself, and NEVER perform healing or anything else on other people unless you have asked them for their permission to do so first.

There are so many more things you can learn, experience and do with this type of meditation that it really has no limits, this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. If you get to know, meet and befriend the various archetypes (usually represented by the 22 cards of the Major Arcana in the Tarot, also called the "22 Faces of God" and 22 paths of the Kabbalah etc) you will experience your outer world and your inner self changing and transforming greatly towards the better and deeper understandings of Existence and Creation and Life.

You can always ask your true Inner Guide to get you in contact with any other inner entity, so that you can get to know different entities individually and learn how to live in harmony with them instead of in conflict. They want harmony as much as you do, as they are in the end a life-long companion of you and they depend on you for their own existence.
Through your inner guide, you can also identify and find the solution to problems with other forms of influence such as negative entities externally, and you can discover the most incredible vast journeys of your own existence, who you are, where you are from, and how to go where you want to go.
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I have read this same thing some where before!? Will try to find it, I'm sure I have it in a book, which one? which one? From years ago Elizabeth Clair Prophet?
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OP, thanks so much, this is interesting. so why hasn't our God or whatever rescued us? what exactly do they do with the soul? eat it? inhale it? then what? they spit it out and put it back in the recycle bin? this is worse that just being a pile of dirt....
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The best way to explain such a non-physical event would be to say they "absorb" it. While you are physically alive, such will cause illness in a person, eventually Death. This happens on many levels though - even humans inbetween do it to each other, though mostly unaware and not on purpose. You may have experienced that when in the company with certain people, you can feel instantly drained of energy, and then it is a case of your energy being absorbed in a similar way. Other times, if you yourself suddenly feel an instant SURGE of energy, you may be the one doing the absorption of someone else.

They do it in a much larger and more negative way though, since they prefer to do it while the energy is charged with fear and other negative emotions. Hell is an example of a construct put in place to create as much fear as possible near death, so they can really have a feast.

GOD doesnt do anything because "he" cant. God is not a person, or an entity in any way we are familiar with. Everything is God, and all you see around you anywhere exists within the Consciousness of God. Never outside, nothing is outside of God and thus God can not be "inside" something, such as his own creation, since God is the ultimate of all which everything else must be within to exist. God absorbs experiences from that which takes place within, but does not actively participate in them.

Other Gods ARE doing something though, lesser Gods that is, other entities of much greater powers than anyone here can imagine - mainly those left behind in the Beginning, when the Physical Universe was created, those original Humans that were NOT captured and are NOT currently stuck in the illusions of Earth, and all the deception of lower astral planes of existence.

The Humans can be said to be the Positive Polarity of Gods, and the Reptilians the Negative Polarity - both can be called Gods in our understanding of the word, when in their free true form outside all Spheres of illusion and manipulation.
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I think I understand who the artetect of the universe is....
The word Gogotha comes to mind, death and deception.


Whoever constructed this universe (the *master* of the universe) uses this place (Earth) for a recyling center for souls....

Chrst came to explain this to us much in the same manor you are doing Solarson, but in my Christian understanding.......there is an OUT, the debt was paid and we (the very precious to the Father) are ramsoned by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB, THE BLAMELESS ONE. THE PERFECT SACRAFICE LAID DOWN *HIS* LIFE, SO WE CAN BASICALLY HAVE A *PASS* OUT OF HERE AND INTO OUR OWN PLACE OF LOVE MADE FOR US.

I too have searched and researched; read and re-read; sought, and struggled to find truth. Such a unique and beautiful one this PEARL of Truth is.....
And after taking in alot of everything for thirty years, I have come to know God have given us the most precious gift.
A way home.

THROUGH HIM, HIS MERITS, HIS WAY......
HE IS THE ONLY WAY, THE ONLY TRUTH, AND THE LIGHT.

This is truth.
This man is actually verifying everything we have learned as Christians if you know how to carefully read between his words.
He has verified much by using words and phrasing them very articulantly, attracting and entrailing us to want more and more .......because there is truth in what he is telling us.

But, beware!

BEWARE AND READ FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES ONLY!!

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
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BLA BLA BLA Freemasonry is not a cult or something secret, anyone can really join if you have a good job $$$$. Fuck this gay thread.
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May God have mercy on your soul for misleading these people. Dear God I pray that you steer any gullible people who might read this thread away from it. far away for it. For these are either rumblings of a demon or a psycho-path.
God created the Heavens and the Earth, and he most importantly created you and me. Even this whatever it is. For God created ALL life. But do not be deceived! For fallen Angels walk amongst us, and sure they may enslave is in this physical world, but as long as you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and love him and one another your enslavement will be limited to our short time here on Earth. Sure they'll try to mislead you and keep you from going into the light, for they themselves are jealous, as they are not permitted to enter the light. There is no such thing as reincarnation as he/she has tried to fool you.
We are warned in the Bible that in the last days there will be many deceivers. I feel the anti-christ is on the Earth right now. Look at all of the signs around us. Anyone over the age of 40 knows that life has changed drastically in the last 15 years. The weather, the horrible acts of violence in the news daily.
If this person truly loved you and wanted the best for you and not have some ulterior motive they would out themselves. Only a coward would hide behind a false acct, screen name, as they admitted them self that they will appear to be from many countries as the run and hide behind other fake IP addresses. Follow Christ who will never deceive you! I too am in a secret society, but for Christ. Why you might ask is it secret? So that we don't draw attention to ourselves for the good we do for others. Helping the homeless, less fortunate and handicap.

I hope that at least a handful of you will head my warning! I noticed in one part he/she writes something telling the reader what to say before going to bed at night. Don't even read or repeat it for the devil will try to put words in your mouth. Follow the feeling of goodness which God himself put in your soul. Do not be deceived!
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This person is here for a reason, whether consious of it or not, he is here to confuse those who have not did much searching for truth.

Alot of what he says is historically correct as written in the bible, it's just that the Bible does not come with such a articulant historical account of our true history as this man possesses.
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I have seen your coming "solar sol".

You signiture has the symbols od AA in it as book marks. Alester Crowly's sect. As the saying goes, whats on the bottom line is what your signing on to. I will review your thread at a later time.

Please note: I am extremely fast as percieving location and intimate details found in "emotional finger prints" or "energy signitures" you percieved anonymity is is only a perceptional bias you hold. Nothing is hidden.. as some who frequent this place know this about me.

If you are suspect, ill put you to the test.

You are young, i know this from the first post because of the language you use.

Until then.

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No...you see. You have it all backwards. The.knowledge system is itself a form of delusion to keep YOU under control. So that you nay administer the illusion on behalf of people learning to get rid of their negative emotions and progress forward. The ego is purposely enlarged in the occult preciseky so you will fall for falsehoods that are meaningless unless put in relative contexts. That is why when you look out ans see the "farm animals" it encourages a sense of guilt. At least at first before they destroy your heart...and a desire to pounce and predates by the same token of the perceived helplessness. This gives you the illusion that you are in control...when all along you are following natural law (at least those below 12th or 13th) . You are deceiving but being deceived simultaneously that you are the one in control-when the fact is that purely by quantitative comparison. The light or these higher beings could end ewrth at any time they wished.

Its like comparing q post singularity civilizatiin where everyone has the power if God to an Indian tribe in new Mexico (dark vs light). all light means is greater information. Not anything to do with being good. But that just happens to be the inclination ofnbeings the more they increase in information.

so in other words. A more appropriate comparison would be that of w 5 year old.kid who is allowed to have an ant farm by his father. Except he isnconvinced in an illusion that he has power over people so he doesn't get bored. Since rewlizing the truth would make him discontinue his efforts.

Its more like a janitorial job or mop work to a greater grand design set from above. So that people have an experience and learn lessonsm you need a man behind the curtain ti run the show

sure luciferisn consciousness gives you God like potential and ability especially when you compare to others who are relatively "asleep" or dead. There are great perks such as great wealth at the expense of pummeling the "cows"

But its a delusion that is itself a cheap knock off of the real thing and is not sustainable. Causing just as much pain as pleasure on the opposite side of the roller coaster so it equals back to zero. Knowledge In the higjest occult is referred ti as falsehood. Or truths that is only meaningful ir relevant in context. In the Vedas this is described as the "relative" realm as opposedd ddto the real of the absolute or metaphysical. Information.

The empirical reality or observable is an illusion while the objective reality has to do with the laws of information absolute or metaophysical.
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I so concur!!
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I have seen your coming "solar sol".

You signiture has the symbols od AA in it as book marks. Alester Crowly's sect. As the saying goes, whats on the bottom line is what your signing on to. I will review your thread at a later time.

Please note: I am extremely fast as percieving location and intimate details found in "emotional finger prints" or "energy signitures" you percieved anonymity is is only a perceptional bias you hold. Nothing is hidden.. as some who frequent this place know this about me.

If you are suspect, ill put you to the test.

You are young, i know this from the first post because of the language you use.

Until then.

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You GO *O* !!!!

Thank you for braking the entraining thought blog he has created here.
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There are some secrets that takes some explaining, and this is one of them. The inner entities mentioned are of a dual nature, meaning they are both "positive" and "negative", an internal part of you - they are the "angels" and "demons" portrayed in cartoons, sitting on the shoulder making you do "good" or "bad" things.

The way you are manipulated by external entities, is through your own Mind, and the Power your Mind has on your Reality. By understanding HOW you are controlled and HOW reality around you manifests, you can learn to be the one IN control of it.

We are the creators of our own World, what we see around us and experience in our lives are the results of what we ourselves project out into the world and everyone and everything there. In a sense, every person is his own walking Universe, where everything is structured according to His or Hers "Inner Self".

Thus, as have been mentioned before, making changes Within Oneself will make changes in what you perceive as the "Outer World". The more balanced and in harmony you are with your True Self within, the more harmony and balance you will experience in the "outside world" and your Life.

This can easily be seen in the World itself by looking at other people and their Lifes. For example, you may find something extremely negative and completely dislike it, while another person really enjoys the same thing and loves it with all his heart. So the question then is not if the "object/thing/event" in question itself is "good" or "bad", "negative" or "positive" - it is why you perceive it as you do, and why someone else can perceive it differently.

The answer goes back to "We create our own World" - what we encounter that we dislike or find bad, negative and so on, are our own responsibility, same for anything we find likeable, good and positive. We have within ourselves, deep in our unconscious level, energies working that are projecting these "experiences" into our world.

One example is the person who always fails at everything he tries, never manages to get a job, is constantly poor and may even live on the street. Most others will look at him as a "failure" and categorize him as that, thinking negative things about him, even if they are thinking compassionate feelings they are often more destructive than helpful, as those who care may think "Oh poor old man who has to live on the street. Hopefully he will get himself together some day" etc - such a thought will only continue to manifest that current reality both for you and the man in question -of him being a poor beggar on the street-, as your image of this person is of one that is poor and living on the street, thus this is the energy you are sending out to the Universe you live within and maintain this creation through your own unlimited powers of your Mind.

Of course many people will just pass the person and barely even notice him or give him a thought, while once in a while there is a person that is somewhat different, and gets the person back "Up and going" so to speak. You could be that person - You could be a person getting YOURSELF "up and going" properly, and thus in turn get others "up and going" in a positive way by influencing everything and everyone around you in a proper and positive way.

When YOU are properly in balance, harmony, at peace and One with yourself, so will the World around you be, and the experiences in your life will flow freely and smoothly in your favor, making things better not only for yourself but for everyone around you and anyone you meet as well.

There is a depth to ourselves that few are aware of, a self deception so grand it is hard to believe and comprehend, but it is possible for us all to understand our true being, and eachother, by gradually working with ourselves and our INNER selves.

Hardly one living person on this planet is their "True Self", they are just a mixed up mash of various other people, the opinions and beliefs of these other people, other energies existing within that in turn CREATES those other people whom affect us and make us do certain things in life and have certain experiences.

Existence is thus in a way "inside out" from the point of view most of us have, thinkink that what we see "out there" is Reality, and that we are Individual Selves making our own decisicions, and to some degree many believe themselves to have a soul deeper within that basically is "Themselves" just as they are now but in spirit form.

Experimentation, testing and experience have shown things to be differently though - it seems that creation is in fact going "backwards" - We are not simply a soul that gets put into a body and then pops out in an already predetermined world. Instead it seems from my experience that we are the Creators of the World we find ourselves in, thus we are responsible for everything happening there to some degree, BUT we ourselves are the creation of Inner Energies, our Ego, which is being maintained and manipulated by other forces and energies, so we do not experience our True Self.

And that is where the Inner Guide can be of great assistance, your Inner Guide is the deepest truest part of yourself, so different from yourself that you will experience Him/Her as some external (or in this case, "internal" being). Your Inner Guide is what has been termed the Holy Guardian Angel and many other things throughout the ages, and its work is to keep your inner Center balanced and in Harmony - as long as you approve it and ask for it.

Once in contact with your Inner Guide, you can change yourself and your experience of the world dramatically - people have been healed from diseases, gone from poor to rich, been getting the gifts to heal others, having all negative influences in their life disappear and much more.

Even within yourself there are many forms of Life and Conscious Beings - for lack of better terms. I will call them energies, and these are the ones popularily called Archetypes, which channel different feelings and emotions, resulting in Causes and Effects both in your Inner World and your Outer World.

These Archetyptical energies we all share, they are part of the Human Collective Unconsciousness, which in turn explain how these energies can affect the world as you perceive it, through the Collective Unconcsciousness.

They are a natural part of us, just like our Soul is, our Mind, our Physical body, they are there within us all perminating all of our existence at all times, just like other things within and without us that we usually do not perceive yet still is there, such as the living cells in our body , the air we breath etc.

Now the good thing is that once you get Consciously Aware of this, you can start working with and exploring these energies to create Inner Changes which in turn will manifest changes in the "Outer World", or your Perceived Reality.

Regarding your Inner Guide, this one is unique to every living person and not "shared" in the way the Archetypes are. Your inner Guide will help you get to know these archetypes, and protect you on your inner journeys, and will be able to assist you in figuring out what archetypes or other energies are affecting a situation in your life, and how you can work with that Inner Energy form to project your situation in a new and better way.

We also have a Shadow Self, deep in our unconcious mind, which consists of your ego with your supressed and repressed feelings, ideas, emotions, beliefs etc - and your Shadow continuously project itself upon everyone in your life, and in turn what you experience back from these other people in your life is an effect of the Shadow you have projected upon them in the first place.

So getting to know your Shadow self, and bring it towards harmony with yourself, along with harmonizing with the Archetypes and other energies within, will result in profound changes both in yourself, as the person you are - going beyond your Ego, discovering your True Self, and help you manifest a new outer projection of Reality.

Within yourself you also have your Center, your inner "Sun", that force which is always there giving life and love, and finding your Center , the Inner Sun, and working with it with your Inner Guide is of great value.

No further introduction is needed for the moment, so I will now descrive the method itself, how you can get in touch with your OWN inner Guide and work with these different energies.

First of all find yourself in a comfortable position either in a nice chair with both feet on the ground, separated not crossed, and your arms by your sides - or simply lie down in bed or on your coach to relax there.

During this meditation it is important that you do not "drift away" or get into a "trance state", you have to be conscious throughout the whole procedure and be aware of everything you do and experience.

Thus you should try to do this when you are fresh and awake and not when tired or sleepy.

Once in your position, mentally imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a cave. Feel and sense yourself there, and experience yourself as being INSIDE your body looking out from your own eyes - this is also crucial for this meditation, you need to experience yourself as "being there" and NOT as if you are watching yourself on a film screen. To "anchor" yourself more within yourself it can be good to touch your surroundings, feel your feet on the ground, notice the details - is the ground flat or bumpy, rocky and solid or sandy, how does it smell in there, do you hear any sounds, how does the walls feel when you touch them with your hands, look at your hands and see what they look like, look down at your body and see what your body and legs look like - how are you dressed?

Make this as vivid and clear as you can in your mind, really sensing yourself as being there and able to have a solid image of the place you are experiencing yourself to be - always go back into "your body" in any place you go during the meditation, should you suddenly see yourself from the outside in the cave, simply slip back inside yourself and make sure you look out through your eyes and see the surroundings as you would in real life, as clear as you can.

Work on this first part for a while so you really get it as strong as you can visually and in your imagination, sensing it as clear and powerful as possible.

If you for some reason do not like caves, you can imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a room, or in a garden etc, just make sure to keep to the same procedure described above.

Now once in your cave, look around and see a door in front of you. This can also simply be a passage, a open portal, or any other sort of opening leading forwards from where you are at, and with an exit behind you from where you came into this cave - similarly imagine such things if you imagine yourself anywhere else than in a cave.

Walk forward, while walking notice the feet stomping on the ground, let your hands touch the surroundings, the rocks, when by the portal touch it, look at it, study it for a while. Then continue forward and through it.

Once you have either gone through it, or if you are walking in a passage, immediately turn to your left and now find yourself in a new landscape, as if you have found your way out of the cave and now are outside the mountain the cave is in. Or out of the house, garden, or whatever else place you may have preferred to imagine yourself.

In either case, after moving forward, and then turning left, notice the landscape your are now in. In the whole process let the images come to you, dont try to force it or create it with your mind, just be open like a blank piece of film where the image is slowly becoming clearer and manifesting itself.

Study these new surroundings, where are you? Inside or outside? Is it hot or cold? Dry or wet? Is the ground hard or soft, is it any smells there, touch your nearby surroundings with your hands and look around.

Then ask for an animal to appear - your power animal - this one can come in any form but it should not be a fantasy animal or any animal you know personally such as your pet. It could be anything from a great eagle, to a frog, to a kangaroo, to a snake, and so on. As soon as your animal arrives look at it, and ask it to lead you towards the RIGHT and to your true Inner Guide.

Follow the animal where its going, if you have problems keeping up with it just let yourself have the ability to move faster, or simply fly above the ground after it. Soon you should be by your Inner Guide that your animal have lead you too.

Start by looking at the feet of your inner Guide, what is he wearing? What kind of footwear, what does he have on his legs, if anything, and continue up through his body noticing every detail of how he looks and what he wears. When you come to the face it may for many be hard to see the face clearly, this is something that is usual for the true Inner Guide, while false guides usually are crystal clear and have faces that are easy to see.

In either case, whether you see his face or not, greet him, and grab both his hands in yours and check how his hands feel, are they soft or rought, cold or warm? Give him permission to let YOU feel how HE feels about YOU.

The feelings from a true Guide should be that of deepest love, acceptance, goodness and kidness in any way. Do you not feel this, call on your True Inner Guide and ask him to appear before you and test again.

Once you have found your Inner Guide, ask him so if he truly is your Inner Guide, and if he can protect you in your Inner World. If he doesnt answer anything but yes to this do the process over again, calling upon your True Inner Guide to be there with you.

The next thing and last test is to ask your guide to point in the direction of your Inner Sun. A false guide will not be able to do this, or stagger or try come up with something else. Once he has pointed at your Inner Sun, look at it, and ask it to come down in a human-like form for you to interact with.

Once the Sun is down, notice the appearance, is he male or female, what does he/she wear, old or young, etc. Take both of the hands of the Sun and ask to be sent as much Light and Love as you can physically handle.

At this point most people will feel themselves overwhelmed with amazing love and sensations that can even result in tears of joy, and blockages and energies are cleansed. Should you not feel much, ask the sun to clear any blockages you have so that the energy can flow freely.

After you have done this, ask the Sun what you need to do for him or in your life to be more in harmony and friends with him. He will usually tell you something which will be beneficial in your general life or the inner work. Then ask him what he has to give to you. He might tell you something, or give you an object with a specific purpose, ask him if unsure what the purpose of the object is and where in your body it will be placed. If the function of the gift is uncertain to you, ask your Inner Guide for clarification.

Then you may ask your inner Guide about the two same things. Then ask him for his name.

At this point I recommend that you return to where you came from, enter the cave, and get out of the meditation bringing with you everything you have learned and write down the whole experience in some sort of log book, which you always should have by your side when doing your meditations.

If you have problems in your life, go and meet your Inner Guide and ask him to explain to you what is causing the problem, or if he can symbolically bring up an image with the solution to the problem. If you are working on issues with other people, then ask the Inner Guide to bring the person you have a problem with to you in your meditation, and then ask him to transform the person to the true form the energy represents in you, this could turn out in many ways such as your angry husband turning into a barking dog etc. Then ask the energy form which you now see in its true form what you can do with it and in your life to be friends with it and harmonize things - ask your Guide if he agrees. You may also ask this energy form if it has a gift for you that you can use similarily to how you asked the Sun and your Guide the same.

Always ask your Guide if the information you receive from other energies/entities are truthful and if advice should be followed or not. Your Guide knows everything about you and what is best for you, always consult him lastly before making any choices.

The energy form mentioned above is one of the inner energies you project outwards to the person that makes him behave the way he does with you. Or if in the case of a specific situation, it is the energy projected out on to the situation itself that make the situation be the way it is for you etc.

These energies do NOT represent the persons or situations themselves, they represents INNER energies that YOU project outwards that causes these behavior and effects in people and events towards you. Thus always work with the Energy Form and never with a Person themself, and NEVER perform healing or anything else on other people unless you have asked them for their permission to do so first.

There are so many more things you can learn, experience and do with this type of meditation that it really has no limits, this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. If you get to know, meet and befriend the various archetypes (usually represented by the 22 cards of the Major Arcana in the Tarot, also called the "22 Faces of God" and 22 paths of the Kabbalah etc) you will experience your outer world and your inner self changing and transforming greatly towards the better and deeper understandings of Existence and Creation and Life.

You can always ask your true Inner Guide to get you in contact with any other inner entity, so that you can get to know different entities individually and learn how to live in harmony with them instead of in conflict. They want harmony as much as you do, as they are in the end a life-long companion of you and they depend on you for their own existence.
Through your inner guide, you can also identify and find the solution to problems with other forms of influence such as negative entities externally, and you can discover the most incredible vast journeys of your own existence, who you are, where you are from, and how to go where you want to go.
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I have read this same thing some where before!? Will try to find it, I'm sure I have it in a book, which one? which one? From years ago Elizabeth Clair Prophet?
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the original post shared nothing a trained mind didnt already know.
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Don't know if anyone has mentioned this already because I haven't read the thread except for OP but this sounds a lot like hidden hand to me.
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Ralph Tegtmeier, also known as Frater V∴D∴ and Frater U∴D∴ (abbreviation for Ubique Daemon Ubique Deus, "Demon (is) in all, God (is) in all"), is a German occultist, a member of the Fraternitas Saturni, and an ex-member of the Illuminates of Thanateros.
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I can not tell you too much about myself, simply because it would easily identify me in the groups I belong.

What I can tell you is that I am an active member of several secret orders, beyond the mainstream regions of Freemasonry into the higher forms of the inner order of Illuminati.

And I have come here to reveal some of the secrets that I feel are of immense importance to all, as well as certain matters that should be for the benefit of everyone and not just us select few.

None of you know anything of what you think you know - not about us, the ones behind the curtains, nor about yourselves. You have been mislead and led astray since before your birth.

The complexity of it all is so vast that it will take time to detail it for you. Thus I will have to start somewhere, and I will come back to add when the occasion lets me. If time allows, I will also answer questions some may have, as long those questions do not incriminate me or reveal for those who knows me from the inside who I am.

Being here at all is risky enough as it is - take what I tell you for what it is and decide for yourselves what you want to do with the information, or whether I am telling you the truth or not.

Let me start with a short introduction of myself, to at least give you the bones without the meat.

My family have been involved with the secret orders as far back in time I have been able to look back in any of our records. I stepped right into the same as soon I was born.

We have close ties with many of the groups and orders most of you will have heard of - and even more of the ones you will never even find the name of. A lot of the Light shines in the Darkness.

The family I come from has a leadership role and a greater importance within these orders. This has given me an unique access to information, understanding, knowledge and greatly guarded secrets that very few are privileged to.

Being in such a position is very rewarding, and you would probably not even believe all the things we oversee and are witness to - not to mention what we experience and are involved with directly ourselves. A lot of it can't be mention, since doing so would endanger my anonymity.

The reason I have decided to come here to open the lid on the door a bit, is because of both the horrific discoveries I have made during my time on the inside, AS WELL as the WONDERFUL discoveries.

Truly a lot can be said, and probably will, but for now in my first attempt at letting you in on the secrets I must detail the utter most important parts.

First of all: You are IMMENSELY deceived. NOTHING is the way you think it is, and not even close to it either. Everything is a lie, and a great hoax put upon you. This includes your own LIFE, your IDENTITY.

Everything around you have been created and put in place to BLIND you from the truth. The Media, is there to deceive you and keep you away from understanding, your job is there to keep you busy and away from discovering your true self, your favorite hobbies and past-time activities have been designed to maintain your business beyond your job to further mislead you from reality, religion is there to hide the truth, technology, science, medicine, all there to derail you from the truth. The person you love, your own family, they are there to keep you away from the truth.

EVERYTHING AROUND YOU IS A MOCK-UP!

The very Earth under your feet is in place to keep you away from the Truth.

That all may sound preposterous - and I can see why, since it really does sound insane.

But nevertheless, this is the way it really is.

Now this does not mean you are not "real", or that the world, or those things you see around you are not "real". But it does mean that your reality, that which is your everyday, is part of a greater design, spun around you in all its splendor, to maintain you in a level of status quo - to keep you in your current state. Compare it to cows in a field - the field and the farm they live on are real enough, and the cows take it for granted as their everyday life, yet it is still in the end artificially created for the cows to keep them there, as the slaves of the farmer. It is truly a perfect analogy since it is pretty much identical to what is really going on.

In that sense, in YOUR reality, you are the "cows", and the "farmer" is, well, call it the Great Architect of the Universe.

You can also call it the Devil, or Satan - but do NOT call it God.

God did NOT create the World. God did NOT create you. It was a different entity, far from God, in biblical terms you could say it was the "Fallen Angel" mentioned above.

With this I quickly jump through tremendous parts of History, and skip all the important bits in between. We go back to our "present" and Secret Orders - since what I have just mentioned now is one of the MOST guarded secrets of these orders.

And, at the highest level of most orders of any significance this is a well known truth - a truth guarded because of many reasons in itself, but not necessarily for Evil as I will get to in my next post.

It relates to the Secret Orders due to us being in existence since BEFORE the time of the Creation of the illusious world you live within, and the Orders exist on Earth today as the channel that allows for the connection and communication with the Divine, and that which still exists far outside the Spheres of the physical Universe you now experience yourself in.

This is all something I will detail soon, when I have the time to come back to further share some of the secrets I feel must be shared.
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This is practically identical to Chapter 2 of "The Witch's Familiar" by Raven Grimassi.
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There are some secrets that takes some explaining, and this is one of them. The inner entities mentioned are of a dual nature, meaning they are both "positive" and "negative", an internal part of you - they are the "angels" and "demons" portrayed in cartoons, sitting on the shoulder making you do "good" or "bad" things.

The way you are manipulated by external entities, is through your own Mind, and the Power your Mind has on your Reality. By understanding HOW you are controlled and HOW reality around you manifests, you can learn to be the one IN control of it.

We are the creators of our own World, what we see around us and experience in our lives are the results of what we ourselves project out into the world and everyone and everything there. In a sense, every person is his own walking Universe, where everything is structured according to His or Hers "Inner Self".

Thus, as have been mentioned before, making changes Within Oneself will make changes in what you perceive as the "Outer World". The more balanced and in harmony you are with your True Self within, the more harmony and balance you will experience in the "outside world" and your Life.

This can easily be seen in the World itself by looking at other people and their Lifes. For example, you may find something extremely negative and completely dislike it, while another person really enjoys the same thing and loves it with all his heart. So the question then is not if the "object/thing/event" in question itself is "good" or "bad", "negative" or "positive" - it is why you perceive it as you do, and why someone else can perceive it differently.

The answer goes back to "We create our own World" - what we encounter that we dislike or find bad, negative and so on, are our own responsibility, same for anything we find likeable, good and positive. We have within ourselves, deep in our unconscious level, energies working that are projecting these "experiences" into our world.

One example is the person who always fails at everything he tries, never manages to get a job, is constantly poor and may even live on the street. Most others will look at him as a "failure" and categorize him as that, thinking negative things about him, even if they are thinking compassionate feelings they are often more destructive than helpful, as those who care may think "Oh poor old man who has to live on the street. Hopefully he will get himself together some day" etc - such a thought will only continue to manifest that current reality both for you and the man in question -of him being a poor beggar on the street-, as your image of this person is of one that is poor and living on the street, thus this is the energy you are sending out to the Universe you live within and maintain this creation through your own unlimited powers of your Mind.

Of course many people will just pass the person and barely even notice him or give him a thought, while once in a while there is a person that is somewhat different, and gets the person back "Up and going" so to speak. You could be that person - You could be a person getting YOURSELF "up and going" properly, and thus in turn get others "up and going" in a positive way by influencing everything and everyone around you in a proper and positive way.

When YOU are properly in balance, harmony, at peace and One with yourself, so will the World around you be, and the experiences in your life will flow freely and smoothly in your favor, making things better not only for yourself but for everyone around you and anyone you meet as well.

There is a depth to ourselves that few are aware of, a self deception so grand it is hard to believe and comprehend, but it is possible for us all to understand our true being, and eachother, by gradually working with ourselves and our INNER selves.

Hardly one living person on this planet is their "True Self", they are just a mixed up mash of various other people, the opinions and beliefs of these other people, other energies existing within that in turn CREATES those other people whom affect us and make us do certain things in life and have certain experiences.

Existence is thus in a way "inside out" from the point of view most of us have, thinkink that what we see "out there" is Reality, and that we are Individual Selves making our own decisicions, and to some degree many believe themselves to have a soul deeper within that basically is "Themselves" just as they are now but in spirit form.

Experimentation, testing and experience have shown things to be differently though - it seems that creation is in fact going "backwards" - We are not simply a soul that gets put into a body and then pops out in an already predetermined world. Instead it seems from my experience that we are the Creators of the World we find ourselves in, thus we are responsible for everything happening there to some degree, BUT we ourselves are the creation of Inner Energies, our Ego, which is being maintained and manipulated by other forces and energies, so we do not experience our True Self.

And that is where the Inner Guide can be of great assistance, your Inner Guide is the deepest truest part of yourself, so different from yourself that you will experience Him/Her as some external (or in this case, "internal" being). Your Inner Guide is what has been termed the Holy Guardian Angel and many other things throughout the ages, and its work is to keep your inner Center balanced and in Harmony - as long as you approve it and ask for it.

Once in contact with your Inner Guide, you can change yourself and your experience of the world dramatically - people have been healed from diseases, gone from poor to rich, been getting the gifts to heal others, having all negative influences in their life disappear and much more.

Even within yourself there are many forms of Life and Conscious Beings - for lack of better terms. I will call them energies, and these are the ones popularily called Archetypes, which channel different feelings and emotions, resulting in Causes and Effects both in your Inner World and your Outer World.

These Archetyptical energies we all share, they are part of the Human Collective Unconsciousness, which in turn explain how these energies can affect the world as you perceive it, through the Collective Unconcsciousness.

They are a natural part of us, just like our Soul is, our Mind, our Physical body, they are there within us all perminating all of our existence at all times, just like other things within and without us that we usually do not perceive yet still is there, such as the living cells in our body , the air we breath etc.

Now the good thing is that once you get Consciously Aware of this, you can start working with and exploring these energies to create Inner Changes which in turn will manifest changes in the "Outer World", or your Perceived Reality.

Regarding your Inner Guide, this one is unique to every living person and not "shared" in the way the Archetypes are. Your inner Guide will help you get to know these archetypes, and protect you on your inner journeys, and will be able to assist you in figuring out what archetypes or other energies are affecting a situation in your life, and how you can work with that Inner Energy form to project your situation in a new and better way.

We also have a Shadow Self, deep in our unconcious mind, which consists of your ego with your supressed and repressed feelings, ideas, emotions, beliefs etc - and your Shadow continuously project itself upon everyone in your life, and in turn what you experience back from these other people in your life is an effect of the Shadow you have projected upon them in the first place.

So getting to know your Shadow self, and bring it towards harmony with yourself, along with harmonizing with the Archetypes and other energies within, will result in profound changes both in yourself, as the person you are - going beyond your Ego, discovering your True Self, and help you manifest a new outer projection of Reality.

Within yourself you also have your Center, your inner "Sun", that force which is always there giving life and love, and finding your Center , the Inner Sun, and working with it with your Inner Guide is of great value.

No further introduction is needed for the moment, so I will now descrive the method itself, how you can get in touch with your OWN inner Guide and work with these different energies.

First of all find yourself in a comfortable position either in a nice chair with both feet on the ground, separated not crossed, and your arms by your sides - or simply lie down in bed or on your coach to relax there.

During this meditation it is important that you do not "drift away" or get into a "trance state", you have to be conscious throughout the whole procedure and be aware of everything you do and experience.

Thus you should try to do this when you are fresh and awake and not when tired or sleepy.

Once in your position, mentally imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a cave. Feel and sense yourself there, and experience yourself as being INSIDE your body looking out from your own eyes - this is also crucial for this meditation, you need to experience yourself as "being there" and NOT as if you are watching yourself on a film screen. To "anchor" yourself more within yourself it can be good to touch your surroundings, feel your feet on the ground, notice the details - is the ground flat or bumpy, rocky and solid or sandy, how does it smell in there, do you hear any sounds, how does the walls feel when you touch them with your hands, look at your hands and see what they look like, look down at your body and see what your body and legs look like - how are you dressed?

Make this as vivid and clear as you can in your mind, really sensing yourself as being there and able to have a solid image of the place you are experiencing yourself to be - always go back into "your body" in any place you go during the meditation, should you suddenly see yourself from the outside in the cave, simply slip back inside yourself and make sure you look out through your eyes and see the surroundings as you would in real life, as clear as you can.

Work on this first part for a while so you really get it as strong as you can visually and in your imagination, sensing it as clear and powerful as possible.

If you for some reason do not like caves, you can imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a room, or in a garden etc, just make sure to keep to the same procedure described above.

Now once in your cave, look around and see a door in front of you. This can also simply be a passage, a open portal, or any other sort of opening leading forwards from where you are at, and with an exit behind you from where you came into this cave - similarly imagine such things if you imagine yourself anywhere else than in a cave.

Walk forward, while walking notice the feet stomping on the ground, let your hands touch the surroundings, the rocks, when by the portal touch it, look at it, study it for a while. Then continue forward and through it.

Once you have either gone through it, or if you are walking in a passage, immediately turn to your left and now find yourself in a new landscape, as if you have found your way out of the cave and now are outside the mountain the cave is in. Or out of the house, garden, or whatever else place you may have preferred to imagine yourself.

In either case, after moving forward, and then turning left, notice the landscape your are now in. In the whole process let the images come to you, dont try to force it or create it with your mind, just be open like a blank piece of film where the image is slowly becoming clearer and manifesting itself.

Study these new surroundings, where are you? Inside or outside? Is it hot or cold? Dry or wet? Is the ground hard or soft, is it any smells there, touch your nearby surroundings with your hands and look around.

Then ask for an animal to appear - your power animal - this one can come in any form but it should not be a fantasy animal or any animal you know personally such as your pet. It could be anything from a great eagle, to a frog, to a kangaroo, to a snake, and so on. As soon as your animal arrives look at it, and ask it to lead you towards the RIGHT and to your true Inner Guide.

Follow the animal where its going, if you have problems keeping up with it just let yourself have the ability to move faster, or simply fly above the ground after it. Soon you should be by your Inner Guide that your animal have lead you too.

Start by looking at the feet of your inner Guide, what is he wearing? What kind of footwear, what does he have on his legs, if anything, and continue up through his body noticing every detail of how he looks and what he wears. When you come to the face it may for many be hard to see the face clearly, this is something that is usual for the true Inner Guide, while false guides usually are crystal clear and have faces that are easy to see.

In either case, whether you see his face or not, greet him, and grab both his hands in yours and check how his hands feel, are they soft or rought, cold or warm? Give him permission to let YOU feel how HE feels about YOU.

The feelings from a true Guide should be that of deepest love, acceptance, goodness and kidness in any way. Do you not feel this, call on your True Inner Guide and ask him to appear before you and test again.

Once you have found your Inner Guide, ask him so if he truly is your Inner Guide, and if he can protect you in your Inner World. If he doesnt answer anything but yes to this do the process over again, calling upon your True Inner Guide to be there with you.

The next thing and last test is to ask your guide to point in the direction of your Inner Sun. A false guide will not be able to do this, or stagger or try come up with something else. Once he has pointed at your Inner Sun, look at it, and ask it to come down in a human-like form for you to interact with.

Once the Sun is down, notice the appearance, is he male or female, what does he/she wear, old or young, etc. Take both of the hands of the Sun and ask to be sent as much Light and Love as you can physically handle.

At this point most people will feel themselves overwhelmed with amazing love and sensations that can even result in tears of joy, and blockages and energies are cleansed. Should you not feel much, ask the sun to clear any blockages you have so that the energy can flow freely.

After you have done this, ask the Sun what you need to do for him or in your life to be more in harmony and friends with him. He will usually tell you something which will be beneficial in your general life or the inner work. Then ask him what he has to give to you. He might tell you something, or give you an object with a specific purpose, ask him if unsure what the purpose of the object is and where in your body it will be placed. If the function of the gift is uncertain to you, ask your Inner Guide for clarification.

Then you may ask your inner Guide about the two same things. Then ask him for his name.

At this point I recommend that you return to where you came from, enter the cave, and get out of the meditation bringing with you everything you have learned and write down the whole experience in some sort of log book, which you always should have by your side when doing your meditations.

If you have problems in your life, go and meet your Inner Guide and ask him to explain to you what is causing the problem, or if he can symbolically bring up an image with the solution to the problem. If you are working on issues with other people, then ask the Inner Guide to bring the person you have a problem with to you in your meditation, and then ask him to transform the person to the true form the energy represents in you, this could turn out in many ways such as your angry husband turning into a barking dog etc. Then ask the energy form which you now see in its true form what you can do with it and in your life to be friends with it and harmonize things - ask your Guide if he agrees. You may also ask this energy form if it has a gift for you that you can use similarily to how you asked the Sun and your Guide the same.

Always ask your Guide if the information you receive from other energies/entities are truthful and if advice should be followed or not. Your Guide knows everything about you and what is best for you, always consult him lastly before making any choices.

The energy form mentioned above is one of the inner energies you project outwards to the person that makes him behave the way he does with you. Or if in the case of a specific situation, it is the energy projected out on to the situation itself that make the situation be the way it is for you etc.

These energies do NOT represent the persons or situations themselves, they represents INNER energies that YOU project outwards that causes these behavior and effects in people and events towards you. Thus always work with the Energy Form and never with a Person themself, and NEVER perform healing or anything else on other people unless you have asked them for their permission to do so first.

There are so many more things you can learn, experience and do with this type of meditation that it really has no limits, this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. If you get to know, meet and befriend the various archetypes (usually represented by the 22 cards of the Major Arcana in the Tarot, also called the "22 Faces of God" and 22 paths of the Kabbalah etc) you will experience your outer world and your inner self changing and transforming greatly towards the better and deeper understandings of Existence and Creation and Life.

You can always ask your true Inner Guide to get you in contact with any other inner entity, so that you can get to know different entities individually and learn how to live in harmony with them instead of in conflict. They want harmony as much as you do, as they are in the end a life-long companion of you and they depend on you for their own existence.
Through your inner guide, you can also identify and find the solution to problems with other forms of influence such as negative entities externally, and you can discover the most incredible vast journeys of your own existence, who you are, where you are from, and how to go where you want to go.
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I have read this same thing some where before!? Will try to find it, I'm sure I have it in a book, which one? which one? From years ago Elizabeth Clair Prophet?
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This is practically identical to Chapter 2 of "The Witch's Familiar" by Raven Grimassi.
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Ahhh, there are old stories in Hindu/Buddhism about
how originally this planet was inhabited by Naga's
(snakes) and how humans came later.

S-Son is a practicing Tantric, and the roots of his lineage go back to Shiva and Hindu Yoga Tantra. So do the stories, and as it seems to be everyone, and even every generation or culture, adds their own twists, turns and takes.

oh brother.

karma and reincaration came from hinduism.

what a load of shit coming from the op.

reptiles ?! really ?!! i mean really ?

lmao !!
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Hey Solar Sun, i do not know your true intentions for coming here. But if you are of truly benevolent intentions i would like to thank you with much love.

i have two questions for you.

what are you thought on the coming "harvest" on december 21st 2012

and are we on the verge of great negativity (world war 3, martial law, mass epidemics, great earth changes)

thank you and much love if you are here for the right reasons!
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Hey Solar Sun, i do not know your true intentions for coming here. But if you are of truly benevolent intentions i would like to thank you with much love.

i have two questions for you.

what are you thought on the coming "harvest" on december 21st 2012

and are we on the verge of great negativity (world war 3, martial law, mass epidemics, great earth changes)

thank you and much love if you are here for the right reasons!
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oh stop feeding the obvious troll.............
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