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SolorSon What you are saying regarding all these rituals and other stuff is spiritual perversion. God does exist and he does have a form your in his form. One question. What if everything that you think you know is a spiritual deception?
The reason why I ask is are going into topics no different than Alyster Crowley who was a proclaimed satanist. Also various of the rituals that you use are from King Salomon who in his words said these teachings are for the glory of God. I have had so many experiences with the spiritual that to me is natural not supernatural anymore. God created a veil in humanity in order for us not go into the spiritual realm for a reason and that was spiritual deception. Yeshua was not just a man I seen and experienced who he is. He is forgiveness and love. But what you say about astral projection and rituals and magic is spiritual perversion. I believe that the one who has been mislead is you. You speak about reincarnation but what is really happening are familiar spirits giving you and putting those thaughts in your head for you to believe that you have had many lives and are reincarnated. Brother/Sister you have got yourself involved with something that you are being mislead and at the same time misleading. People are hungry for answers and understanding in spiritual arena, you have some but as it was in the days of old regarding the serpent (or reptilian) as they call them these days. This being told half truth and half lies. Now to you this may be truth. But there is only one truth and many lies. Yeshua (Jesus is the truth the way and life) everything else friend is death. I speak not out of reading scripture but out of my experiences directly with him. Not religious crap nor catholicism but personal relationship with the lord. He is my father the great I am. Yes you don't truly know oneself until you realise you are the image of the creator of all that exists. Father, Yeshua, And spirit of the lord the Holy Spirit is the only way one can have peace in this life and the one to come. Spiritual life. If you think you have found another way than good luck with that you will find out the hardway later on.
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Isn't it possible that both of you share the same belief...only viewed from a different perspective?

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Do not hate the other as we are all a part of all....temporarily "apart"


thanks Solar Son for shining a light into some dark corners....hf
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It's fun and interesting reading. I think people get into trouble when they take threads like these as absolute truths. Threads like these will contain mis/disinformation as well as possible truths. Especially if it is an insider, as he is not really 'breaking his oaths for you'. He will be doing it to further a specific agenda.
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That is true, and that is something you ultimately will never know. It is however also the reason I ask you to not be ignorant fools, and never take anything you are told as fact or truth. You all walk your own path alone, you do not walk it with anyone else beside you. When you stumble you do so alone, and when you discover the treasures, you do that alone too.

It is indeed a technique used more often than not, pretending to be there for the greater good of those spoken to, to get followers, and then deceive them behind their backs, smirking at how easy it was to fool them. And trust me, it is very easy to fool people. Always be skeptical and confirm and verify things yourself. Follow your own inner being.
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Agree 100% with this. I have walked that path in bold above, and I have had to walk it alone, as you say.

I really like your response here.

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It's fun and interesting reading. I think people get into trouble when they take threads like these as absolute truths. Threads like these will contain mis/disinformation as well as possible truths. Especially if it is an insider, as he is not really 'breaking his oaths for you'. He will be doing it to further a specific agenda.
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That is true, and that is something you ultimately will never know. It is however also the reason I ask you to not be ignorant fools, and never take anything you are told as fact or truth. You all walk your own path alone, you do not walk it with anyone else beside you. When you stumble you do so alone, and when you discover the treasures, you do that alone too.

It is indeed a technique used more often than not, pretending to be there for the greater good of those spoken to, to get followers, and then deceive them behind their backs, smirking at how easy it was to fool them. And trust me, it is very easy to fool people. Always be skeptical and confirm and verify things yourself. Follow your own inner being.
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Agree 100% with this. I have walked that path in bold above, and I have had to walk it alone, as you say.

I really like your response here.

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hence "be your own filter".....even SOS isn't infallibe....yet.
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SoS, can you give me some advice.


I have had 2 OBE experiences. But I have not been able to recreate them now.

The first one was so amazing and enlightening. Right up until the fact taht I looked down and realized I was neither male nor female. I should not of been surprised by that fact, but it threw me back into my body. Was an amazing experience.

The second one was short, and I did not get more than 2 feet from my body.

Any reading/books on how better to achive lucid dreaming/obe/astral travel?

Thanks,
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Get the book "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce, have some of the best public exercises of all material you can find. Its available on amazon [link to www.amazon.com]

In addition, get "The Gateway Experience" audio course by the Monroe Institute. The best audio lessons you can get on the same. [link to torrage.com] (First install [link to www.utorrent.com] or download will not work - and read about or buy the full course here: [link to www.thegatewayexperience.com] )

I can almost guarantee you will succeed greatly, using both these together.

I would also recommend you, as an addition, the free audio course on remote viewing by Courtney Brown, found here: [link to farsight.org]
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Yep! I've got all these tools, Rev. I've been doing Monroe's Gateway series for years. Robert Bruce's book is good, but some of the things he says are 'facts' about the astral are not, as I have disproven some of them. But, excellent stuff.

Courtney Brown's books are really fun to read. get both of them, Cosmic Voyage and Cosmic Explorers.

Also Robert Bruce's book used to come with a cd with a binaural beats program. See if you can score a book that includes the cd.
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SoS, can you give me some advice.


I have had 2 OBE experiences. But I have not been able to recreate them now.

The first one was so amazing and enlightening. Right up until the fact taht I looked down and realized I was neither male nor female. I should not of been surprised by that fact, but it threw me back into my body. Was an amazing experience.

The second one was short, and I did not get more than 2 feet from my body.

Any reading/books on how better to achive lucid dreaming/obe/astral travel?

Thanks,
 Quoting: Revguard


Get the book "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce, have some of the best public exercises of all material you can find. Its available on amazon [link to www.amazon.com]

In addition, get "The Gateway Experience" audio course by the Monroe Institute. The best audio lessons you can get on the same. [link to torrage.com] (First install [link to www.utorrent.com] or download will not work - and read about or buy the full course here: [link to www.thegatewayexperience.com] )

I can almost guarantee you will succeed greatly, using both these together.

I would also recommend you, as an addition, the free audio course on remote viewing by Courtney Brown, found here: [link to farsight.org]
 Quoting: SolarSon


Yep! I've got all these tools, Rev. I've been doing Monroe's Gateway series for years. Robert Bruce's book is good, but some of the things he says are 'facts' about the astral are not, as I have disproven some of them. But, excellent stuff.

Courtney Brown's books are really fun to read. get both of them, Cosmic Voyage and Cosmic Explorers.

Also Robert Bruce's book used to come with a cd with a binaural beats program. See if you can score a book that includes the cd.
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Good advice. I put on birthday list. But not sure I can wait 2 weeks for my birthday. I am itching to read these. Will probably buy them this weekend.

Thanks again SolarSon, SoS.

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There are some secrets that takes some explaining, and this is one of them. The inner entities mentioned are of a dual nature, meaning they are both "positive" and "negative", an internal part of you - they are the "angels" and "demons" portrayed in cartoons, sitting on the shoulder making you do "good" or "bad" things.

The way you are manipulated by external entities, is through your own Mind, and the Power your Mind has on your Reality. By understanding HOW you are controlled and HOW reality around you manifests, you can learn to be the one IN control of it.

We are the creators of our own World, what we see around us and experience in our lives are the results of what we ourselves project out into the world and everyone and everything there. In a sense, every person is his own walking Universe, where everything is structured according to His or Hers "Inner Self".

Thus, as have been mentioned before, making changes Within Oneself will make changes in what you perceive as the "Outer World". The more balanced and in harmony you are with your True Self within, the more harmony and balance you will experience in the "outside world" and your Life.

This can easily be seen in the World itself by looking at other people and their Lifes. For example, you may find something extremely negative and completely dislike it, while another person really enjoys the same thing and loves it with all his heart. So the question then is not if the "object/thing/event" in question itself is "good" or "bad", "negative" or "positive" - it is why you perceive it as you do, and why someone else can perceive it differently.

The answer goes back to "We create our own World" - what we encounter that we dislike or find bad, negative and so on, are our own responsibility, same for anything we find likeable, good and positive. We have within ourselves, deep in our unconscious level, energies working that are projecting these "experiences" into our world.

One example is the person who always fails at everything he tries, never manages to get a job, is constantly poor and may even live on the street. Most others will look at him as a "failure" and categorize him as that, thinking negative things about him, even if they are thinking compassionate feelings they are often more destructive than helpful, as those who care may think "Oh poor old man who has to live on the street. Hopefully he will get himself together some day" etc - such a thought will only continue to manifest that current reality both for you and the man in question -of him being a poor beggar on the street-, as your image of this person is of one that is poor and living on the street, thus this is the energy you are sending out to the Universe you live within and maintain this creation through your own unlimited powers of your Mind.

Of course many people will just pass the person and barely even notice him or give him a thought, while once in a while there is a person that is somewhat different, and gets the person back "Up and going" so to speak. You could be that person - You could be a person getting YOURSELF "up and going" properly, and thus in turn get others "up and going" in a positive way by influencing everything and everyone around you in a proper and positive way.

When YOU are properly in balance, harmony, at peace and One with yourself, so will the World around you be, and the experiences in your life will flow freely and smoothly in your favor, making things better not only for yourself but for everyone around you and anyone you meet as well.

There is a depth to ourselves that few are aware of, a self deception so grand it is hard to believe and comprehend, but it is possible for us all to understand our true being, and eachother, by gradually working with ourselves and our INNER selves.

Hardly one living person on this planet is their "True Self", they are just a mixed up mash of various other people, the opinions and beliefs of these other people, other energies existing within that in turn CREATES those other people whom affect us and make us do certain things in life and have certain experiences.

Existence is thus in a way "inside out" from the point of view most of us have, thinkink that what we see "out there" is Reality, and that we are Individual Selves making our own decisicions, and to some degree many believe themselves to have a soul deeper within that basically is "Themselves" just as they are now but in spirit form.

Experimentation, testing and experience have shown things to be differently though - it seems that creation is in fact going "backwards" - We are not simply a soul that gets put into a body and then pops out in an already predetermined world. Instead it seems from my experience that we are the Creators of the World we find ourselves in, thus we are responsible for everything happening there to some degree, BUT we ourselves are the creation of Inner Energies, our Ego, which is being maintained and manipulated by other forces and energies, so we do not experience our True Self.

And that is where the Inner Guide can be of great assistance, your Inner Guide is the deepest truest part of yourself, so different from yourself that you will experience Him/Her as some external (or in this case, "internal" being). Your Inner Guide is what has been termed the Holy Guardian Angel and many other things throughout the ages, and its work is to keep your inner Center balanced and in Harmony - as long as you approve it and ask for it.

Once in contact with your Inner Guide, you can change yourself and your experience of the world dramatically - people have been healed from diseases, gone from poor to rich, been getting the gifts to heal others, having all negative influences in their life disappear and much more.

Even within yourself there are many forms of Life and Conscious Beings - for lack of better terms. I will call them energies, and these are the ones popularily called Archetypes, which channel different feelings and emotions, resulting in Causes and Effects both in your Inner World and your Outer World.

These Archetyptical energies we all share, they are part of the Human Collective Unconsciousness, which in turn explain how these energies can affect the world as you perceive it, through the Collective Unconcsciousness.

They are a natural part of us, just like our Soul is, our Mind, our Physical body, they are there within us all perminating all of our existence at all times, just like other things within and without us that we usually do not perceive yet still is there, such as the living cells in our body , the air we breath etc.

Now the good thing is that once you get Consciously Aware of this, you can start working with and exploring these energies to create Inner Changes which in turn will manifest changes in the "Outer World", or your Perceived Reality.

Regarding your Inner Guide, this one is unique to every living person and not "shared" in the way the Archetypes are. Your inner Guide will help you get to know these archetypes, and protect you on your inner journeys, and will be able to assist you in figuring out what archetypes or other energies are affecting a situation in your life, and how you can work with that Inner Energy form to project your situation in a new and better way.

We also have a Shadow Self, deep in our unconcious mind, which consists of your ego with your supressed and repressed feelings, ideas, emotions, beliefs etc - and your Shadow continuously project itself upon everyone in your life, and in turn what you experience back from these other people in your life is an effect of the Shadow you have projected upon them in the first place.

So getting to know your Shadow self, and bring it towards harmony with yourself, along with harmonizing with the Archetypes and other energies within, will result in profound changes both in yourself, as the person you are - going beyond your Ego, discovering your True Self, and help you manifest a new outer projection of Reality.

Within yourself you also have your Center, your inner "Sun", that force which is always there giving life and love, and finding your Center , the Inner Sun, and working with it with your Inner Guide is of great value.

No further introduction is needed for the moment, so I will now descrive the method itself, how you can get in touch with your OWN inner Guide and work with these different energies.

First of all find yourself in a comfortable position either in a nice chair with both feet on the ground, separated not crossed, and your arms by your sides - or simply lie down in bed or on your coach to relax there.

During this meditation it is important that you do not "drift away" or get into a "trance state", you have to be conscious throughout the whole procedure and be aware of everything you do and experience.

Thus you should try to do this when you are fresh and awake and not when tired or sleepy.

Once in your position, mentally imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a cave. Feel and sense yourself there, and experience yourself as being INSIDE your body looking out from your own eyes - this is also crucial for this meditation, you need to experience yourself as "being there" and NOT as if you are watching yourself on a film screen. To "anchor" yourself more within yourself it can be good to touch your surroundings, feel your feet on the ground, notice the details - is the ground flat or bumpy, rocky and solid or sandy, how does it smell in there, do you hear any sounds, how does the walls feel when you touch them with your hands, look at your hands and see what they look like, look down at your body and see what your body and legs look like - how are you dressed?

Make this as vivid and clear as you can in your mind, really sensing yourself as being there and able to have a solid image of the place you are experiencing yourself to be - always go back into "your body" in any place you go during the meditation, should you suddenly see yourself from the outside in the cave, simply slip back inside yourself and make sure you look out through your eyes and see the surroundings as you would in real life, as clear as you can.

Work on this first part for a while so you really get it as strong as you can visually and in your imagination, sensing it as clear and powerful as possible.

If you for some reason do not like caves, you can imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a room, or in a garden etc, just make sure to keep to the same procedure described above.

Now once in your cave, look around and see a door in front of you. This can also simply be a passage, a open portal, or any other sort of opening leading forwards from where you are at, and with an exit behind you from where you came into this cave - similarly imagine such things if you imagine yourself anywhere else than in a cave.

Walk forward, while walking notice the feet stomping on the ground, let your hands touch the surroundings, the rocks, when by the portal touch it, look at it, study it for a while. Then continue forward and through it.

Once you have either gone through it, or if you are walking in a passage, immediately turn to your left and now find yourself in a new landscape, as if you have found your way out of the cave and now are outside the mountain the cave is in. Or out of the house, garden, or whatever else place you may have preferred to imagine yourself.

In either case, after moving forward, and then turning left, notice the landscape your are now in. In the whole process let the images come to you, dont try to force it or create it with your mind, just be open like a blank piece of film where the image is slowly becoming clearer and manifesting itself.

Study these new surroundings, where are you? Inside or outside? Is it hot or cold? Dry or wet? Is the ground hard or soft, is it any smells there, touch your nearby surroundings with your hands and look around.

Then ask for an animal to appear - your power animal - this one can come in any form but it should not be a fantasy animal or any animal you know personally such as your pet. It could be anything from a great eagle, to a frog, to a kangaroo, to a snake, and so on. As soon as your animal arrives look at it, and ask it to lead you towards the RIGHT and to your true Inner Guide.

Follow the animal where its going, if you have problems keeping up with it just let yourself have the ability to move faster, or simply fly above the ground after it. Soon you should be by your Inner Guide that your animal have lead you too.

Start by looking at the feet of your inner Guide, what is he wearing? What kind of footwear, what does he have on his legs, if anything, and continue up through his body noticing every detail of how he looks and what he wears. When you come to the face it may for many be hard to see the face clearly, this is something that is usual for the true Inner Guide, while false guides usually are crystal clear and have faces that are easy to see.

In either case, whether you see his face or not, greet him, and grab both his hands in yours and check how his hands feel, are they soft or rought, cold or warm? Give him permission to let YOU feel how HE feels about YOU.

The feelings from a true Guide should be that of deepest love, acceptance, goodness and kidness in any way. Do you not feel this, call on your True Inner Guide and ask him to appear before you and test again.

Once you have found your Inner Guide, ask him so if he truly is your Inner Guide, and if he can protect you in your Inner World. If he doesnt answer anything but yes to this do the process over again, calling upon your True Inner Guide to be there with you.

The next thing and last test is to ask your guide to point in the direction of your Inner Sun. A false guide will not be able to do this, or stagger or try come up with something else. Once he has pointed at your Inner Sun, look at it, and ask it to come down in a human-like form for you to interact with.

Once the Sun is down, notice the appearance, is he male or female, what does he/she wear, old or young, etc. Take both of the hands of the Sun and ask to be sent as much Light and Love as you can physically handle.

At this point most people will feel themselves overwhelmed with amazing love and sensations that can even result in tears of joy, and blockages and energies are cleansed. Should you not feel much, ask the sun to clear any blockages you have so that the energy can flow freely.

After you have done this, ask the Sun what you need to do for him or in your life to be more in harmony and friends with him. He will usually tell you something which will be beneficial in your general life or the inner work. Then ask him what he has to give to you. He might tell you something, or give you an object with a specific purpose, ask him if unsure what the purpose of the object is and where in your body it will be placed. If the function of the gift is uncertain to you, ask your Inner Guide for clarification.

Then you may ask your inner Guide about the two same things. Then ask him for his name.

At this point I recommend that you return to where you came from, enter the cave, and get out of the meditation bringing with you everything you have learned and write down the whole experience in some sort of log book, which you always should have by your side when doing your meditations.

If you have problems in your life, go and meet your Inner Guide and ask him to explain to you what is causing the problem, or if he can symbolically bring up an image with the solution to the problem. If you are working on issues with other people, then ask the Inner Guide to bring the person you have a problem with to you in your meditation, and then ask him to transform the person to the true form the energy represents in you, this could turn out in many ways such as your angry husband turning into a barking dog etc. Then ask the energy form which you now see in its true form what you can do with it and in your life to be friends with it and harmonize things - ask your Guide if he agrees. You may also ask this energy form if it has a gift for you that you can use similarily to how you asked the Sun and your Guide the same.

Always ask your Guide if the information you receive from other energies/entities are truthful and if advice should be followed or not. Your Guide knows everything about you and what is best for you, always consult him lastly before making any choices.

The energy form mentioned above is one of the inner energies you project outwards to the person that makes him behave the way he does with you. Or if in the case of a specific situation, it is the energy projected out on to the situation itself that make the situation be the way it is for you etc.

These energies do NOT represent the persons or situations themselves, they represents INNER energies that YOU project outwards that causes these behavior and effects in people and events towards you. Thus always work with the Energy Form and never with a Person themself, and NEVER perform healing or anything else on other people unless you have asked them for their permission to do so first.

There are so many more things you can learn, experience and do with this type of meditation that it really has no limits, this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. If you get to know, meet and befriend the various archetypes (usually represented by the 22 cards of the Major Arcana in the Tarot, also called the "22 Faces of God" and 22 paths of the Kabbalah etc) you will experience your outer world and your inner self changing and transforming greatly towards the better and deeper understandings of Existence and Creation and Life.

You can always ask your true Inner Guide to get you in contact with any other inner entity, so that you can get to know different entities individually and learn how to live in harmony with them instead of in conflict. They want harmony as much as you do, as they are in the end a life-long companion of you and they depend on you for their own existence.

Through your inner guide, you can also identify and find the solution to problems with other forms of influence such as negative entities externally, and you can discover the most incredible vast journeys of your own existence, who you are, where you are from, and how to go where you want to go.
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You chose the example of a homeless man as something that can be seen as positive or negative?

That is a circumstance reflected by our hellzone world run by demonic type leaders, some of whom have literally been replaced, but some who still have the spark of soul consciousness in them and need to be reached by an out pour of Love and Equality from us, and we need to intercede with them.

How a person sees a homeless person relates to their own massive programming in this world, their belief in the ISMS of politics, or lack of programming and remembering where you came from, without money or slavery.

You are right in the sense that the universe you are inheriting, that you will be in sync with, out of the infinite universes, is a part of what grade or level your soul is at.

But homelessness is not negativity. It is a conditon of our heartless society.

It's a crime against humanity. We are all co-owners of the earth and resources while here.

A Truly Negative Thing is the Opposite of the Virtues: Rape, Murder, Torture, Meanness, Bullying, Inequality, etc.

And that would have been a better example.

All a poor, sick or imprisoned person does is reveal the state or grade you are in.

Some very High Up Guides and Spirits, what we would call angels, walk amongst those in need, and we are being tested every day.

I know what the mystery schools teaches, I've written threads elsewhere directly to them, to wake up, to become Love and Equality.

This planet was not created by Dark Side. Physically is not Dark Side, its a lower frequency Construct.

This planet is a shadow reflection, its 2 d, its holographic, its the other side of the mirror.

It was created in perfection when everything Was Turned On, its a technology.

It was interactive, up and down, depending on the thoughts/words and actions of cycles of beings.

Its been along alot longer than a few hundred thousand years.

Mu/Lemuria was well before Atlantis and Sumar/Annanuki Slavers.

It was The Equality. And that was several million years ago. But that was only one cycle.

Humanity reaches the stars and makes colonies in space in the cycles.

The Dark Side is not the Creator/Designers of the Schools.

Also, everyone makes it out.

There is No Time no measurement possible in infinity and its just a program in our minds.

In the real world, that feels very concrete. Spirit is Concrete. Infinitely more sight, sound, touch, feel, colors and tastes than here.

More Love.

Progression.

So, when we enter in, to Family and Loved ones it is: Be back in a second.

WE ALL COME BACK IN A SECOND, THOUGH SOME HAVE SPENT A KAZILLION YEARS IN THE COMPUTER TYPE PROGRAM, IN ITS TIME, MAKING U-TURNS MANY TIMES ON THE TWO LANE HIGHWAY.

This planet has been Hijacked, by those who feed off our pain and suffering, DRACO type beings, entities and ET's.
With a bought of elite group of self appointed mismanagers of the planet, who are hybrids themselves, from annanuki lines. And some of their opposition lineage as well here.

Everyone should reach for abundance after reaching for awakening, but not for greed. To flow it out to others. Not for the fancy car, and the fancy truck.

The Family of Goodness and Love, does not choose the wealthy, but chooses the poor, the so called weak, to contact and work with the most, most of the time. Those who see through the whole system usually.

Don't set your heart on the shadow rewards, the material stuff in this testing ground is not even real.

You, like the others talk of two families, human and reptile, as if there is good and evil always.

First of all, there are orders or levels of creation, so Reptile is older than human, yet both are forever cycling, so its really like the Chicken or Egg scenario.

There are very postive and advanced Reptilians as well as ever other species.

There are very negative Reptilians and Humans as well.

There is light in all and dark in all, and this is the testing ground.

At a certain level, there is No More Duality, for you can't go home, to higher levels unless you are Love and Goodness.

Love is: Humble of Heart, Kind, Gentle, Forgiving, Helpfule, Compassionate, Free and Equal, Mom and Dad combined.

You have to turn the dial up on Love, higher and higher to reach those levels.

There is a big bully. They like to be worshipped as the creators, but they are not.

When you connect to anything inside, or outside, open your pineal and connect, ITS A FREQUENCY MATCH. If you're an elite, who sets up pyramid systems and uses slaves, and suppresses equality, and programs people, and kills people, YOU'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO A BIGGER VERSION OF SELF, A BIG BULLY WHO LIES ALOT.

There is some truth in what you are saying but it has error in it.

I happen to remember coming in, freely, a ray of light, and have those memories since I was 2. I remember home, and know what the mission is here: The Prime Directive Is To Free This Planet. That means the souls here. Human and animals, like dolphins, they're being rescued too, the ceteceans, and nature will be looked after.

The dark side is really not as strong as you think. Shadow is distortion, insanity and not real. Its a reflection only, and a distorted one.

Love and Goodness is real. So shine in your bigger soul, to help in this world

That is what Christ and Buddha did. To reach that frequency match, walk in Christ's footsteps, and help ohter people, feed the poor, visit the sick, visit those in jail, do the right thing.


Be Love, Its an Honor to Love.

We have to be Hero's in this life. Be the Hero of it.

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It's fun and interesting reading. I think people get into trouble when they take threads like these as absolute truths. Threads like these will contain mis/disinformation as well as possible truths. Especially if it is an insider, as he is not really 'breaking his oaths for you'. He will be doing it to further a specific agenda.
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That is true, and that is something you ultimately will never know. It is however also the reason I ask you to not be ignorant fools, and never take anything you are told as fact or truth. You all walk your own path alone, you do not walk it with anyone else beside you. When you stumble you do so alone, and when you discover the treasures, you do that alone too.

It is indeed a technique used more often than not, pretending to be there for the greater good of those spoken to, to get followers, and then deceive them behind their backs, smirking at how easy it was to fool them. And trust me, it is very easy to fool people. Always be skeptical and confirm and verify things yourself. Follow your own inner being.
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Agree 100% with this. I have walked that path in bold above, and I have had to walk it alone, as you say.

I really like your response here.

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hence "be your own filter".....even SOS isn't infallibe....yet.
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I also don't know what you are doing with the negative squares inside of you, you call them demons or negative beings, and you say we need to work out a deal with them?

That is not the case at all!

Inserted into the reflected world, the DVD, the never ending story, a world of Darkness and Shadow and Distortion (though it was perfect when it all began for this universal cycle, a true reflection of home then. It's Fallen! Greed, Bloodlust, Inequality!)

We are created with half shadow and half Light Squares in us.

The Light Shines in Endless and Everlasting and helps us all here, its not the opposite meaning. All the threats you get from bullies, the negative watching and contact, occurs, via dark shadows. Some of us keep a light on.

With all inside us, the weaknesses this world reveals, and the dark squares in us, we need to face them, seek for the lesson they show, the weakness in us, they reveal, and ask our Souls, Family, Goodness/God, Mom/Dad, to assist us, to overcome all negative, to grow past it, to forgive it, to learn the lesson there, and move beyond and higher frequency.

And do so with humor, compassion, on self and others, joy.

Some problems are hard to deal with here, so raising frequency first is necessary: we can raise our frequency off the charts with whale songs, nature, laughter, hugs, comedies, positive writing, poetry, self statements, nature, meditation, Ho'onoponopono!!!!!! and in the end the fastest way IS GIVING TO THOSE IN NEED AND VOLUNTEERING.

When you laugh, hug, find your happy thoughts, you can fly. You overcome the gravity within you.

From higher frequency you look down on the flaws and weaknesses with humor and as if from a past life, and you see the lesson there.

We're not to make deals with our "dark demons", we're to transmute, the dark squares to LIGHT.

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One last point. These dracos that are farming us. They need to go home too! Not kidding on that.

All souls, entities/consciousness, has a real Family waiting their return, real Love waiting, no one is an island to themselves.

So I've never truly never been afraid of the dark side. They can kill you, but then you are Obi Wan, and expand your consciousness many times over, if you are not retaliating or acting out anger, hostility. But if you truly have unconditional Love even for the bad guys. But they can only do that If Higher Self and Family allow it. If you are striving to do the right thing, reporting for duty here, and to get on task and see through the world and help others, you are PROTECTED. Only what is allowed, happens.

Stand out under the stars and tell everyone, all beings in existence, its time to home. Its literally time to raise their Love up higher, turn the dial higher on their Love, and to Not Follow Bad Orders EVER! That its Teamwork. Family lends a helping hand.

No one that is truly Loving ever gives up on anyone else. There is no permanent hell, IN FACT that was a creation by Augustine I believe, over 300 years after Christ. No such thing. It bears False Testimony Against Dad and Mom! Mother never gives up on reaching to the lost sheep. That is a Mother's Love.

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may i insert this quote from another thread here?

"We must not reject the heritage bequeathed to us by the great spirits of the past. On the contrary, we must meditate on it and immerse ourselves in it. But this does not mean that we should conform to their philosophy in every detail. It is the principles which must be preserved, because they are eternal. As for the forms, they follow the law of life and therefore can and in fact must evolve. It is because this law is not well understood that many misunderstandings occur.

Some people, in their desire to reject forms they find outmoded, reject the principles as well. And others preserve the old forms because they confuse them with the principles. As a result, those who reject the principles no longer have a compass with which to orientate themselves, and those who cling to the forms become rigid. You may ask: ‘But which principles should be preserved?’ All those which emphasize the pre-eminence of the spirit, of goodness, generosity, love, purity, and sacrifice. It hardly matters which forms you use to apply them: in this you are free to choose!"

hf
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Nice...very timely observation! hf


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Hey Solar Sun, i do not know your true intentions for coming here. But if you are of truly benevolent intentions i would like to thank you with much love.

i have two questions for you.

what are you thought on the coming "harvest" on december 21st 2012

and are we on the verge of great negativity (world war 3, martial law, mass epidemics, great earth changes)

thank you and much love if you are here for the right reasons!
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A believer putin
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SoS, can you give me some advice.


I have had 2 OBE experiences. But I have not been able to recreate them now.

The first one was so amazing and enlightening. Right up until the fact taht I looked down and realized I was neither male nor female. I should not of been surprised by that fact, but it threw me back into my body. Was an amazing experience.

The second one was short, and I did not get more than 2 feet from my body.

Any reading/books on how better to achive lucid dreaming/obe/astral travel?

Thanks,
 Quoting: Revguard


Get the book "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce, have some of the best public exercises of all material you can find. Its available on amazon [link to www.amazon.com]

In addition, get "The Gateway Experience" audio course by the Monroe Institute. The best audio lessons you can get on the same. [link to torrage.com] (First install [link to www.utorrent.com] or download will not work - and read about or buy the full course here: [link to www.thegatewayexperience.com] )

I can almost guarantee you will succeed greatly, using both these together.

I would also recommend you, as an addition, the free audio course on remote viewing by Courtney Brown, found here: [link to farsight.org]
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Just wanted to add a few additional links for folk interested in learning more about LD's and AP's.

Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics can be found here for free: [link to www.gofaster.net] It's around 500 pages. Downloaded this one to my Ipad over the summer.

The Astral Pulse has lots of good info too. Sometimes folk get scared at the onset of AP. You may hear voices or see things(hypnogogia?)or experience weird body vibrations. This site does a great job of explaining that stuff and helping the novice begin an AP practice: [link to www.astralpulse.com]

The forum at Dream Views is an excellent resource for those interested in Lucid Dreaming. There are lots of techniques. So choose one that resonates with you and give it shot. If it doesn't work after a couple weeks try another:
[link to www.dreamviews.com]
Etiop
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SolarSun is an actor paid by Trinity to increase page views.

Page views are the currency of this site that translate directly into cash in his pocket. Keep that in mind when you come here to GLP, then engage your critical thinking.

This thread is full of BS, and all you have to do is take a minute to really ask yourself "is this for real?"

Try this, instead:
"Can you give yourself some approval? For no reason? Other than it is the smart thing to do? You can either choose to be negative and disapprove of yourself, or positive and approve of yourself. Which do you choose? Can you give yourself some more approval?"

Take a minute and really try to feel this. When you are able to feel this approval, ask yourself, Where does it come from? Then keep doing it...
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No one pays me for coming here to do anything. If anyone makes a profit out of my posts, then good for them.

I am here by my own free will to share what I know with you, and try to assist you some in practical ways.

Whether you decided to give that a chance or not is up to you.
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SoS, can you give me some advice.


I have had 2 OBE experiences. But I have not been able to recreate them now.

The first one was so amazing and enlightening. Right up until the fact taht I looked down and realized I was neither male nor female. I should not of been surprised by that fact, but it threw me back into my body. Was an amazing experience.

The second one was short, and I did not get more than 2 feet from my body.

Any reading/books on how better to achive lucid dreaming/obe/astral travel?

Thanks,
 Quoting: Revguard


Get the book "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce, have some of the best public exercises of all material you can find. Its available on amazon [link to www.amazon.com]

In addition, get "The Gateway Experience" audio course by the Monroe Institute. The best audio lessons you can get on the same. [link to torrage.com] (First install [link to www.utorrent.com] or download will not work - and read about or buy the full course here: [link to www.thegatewayexperience.com] )

I can almost guarantee you will succeed greatly, using both these together.

I would also recommend you, as an addition, the free audio course on remote viewing by Courtney Brown, found here: [link to farsight.org]
 Quoting: SolarSon


Just wanted to add a few additional links for folk interested in learning more about LD's and AP's.

Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics can be found here for free: [link to www.gofaster.net] It's around 500 pages. Downloaded this one to my Ipad over the summer.

The Astral Pulse has lots of good info too. Sometimes folk get scared at the onset of AP. You may hear voices or see things(hypnogogia?)or experience weird body vibrations. This site does a great job of explaining that stuff and helping the novice begin an AP practice: [link to www.astralpulse.com]

The forum at Dream Views is an excellent resource for those interested in Lucid Dreaming. There are lots of techniques. So choose one that resonates with you and give it shot. If it doesn't work after a couple weeks try another:
[link to www.dreamviews.com]
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Weird body vibrations. This is exactly what happened to me. I thought my body was going to shatter. It felt as though I was vibrating very fast. Right up until the point I left my body. That is the last senstation I had before I "left my body".

Will check these links, thanks.
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Everybodys a god damn mason.
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Except the uninitiated one :)
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SoS, can you give me some advice.


I have had 2 OBE experiences. But I have not been able to recreate them now.

The first one was so amazing and enlightening. Right up until the fact taht I looked down and realized I was neither male nor female. I should not of been surprised by that fact, but it threw me back into my body. Was an amazing experience.

The second one was short, and I did not get more than 2 feet from my body.

Any reading/books on how better to achive lucid dreaming/obe/astral travel?

Thanks,
 Quoting: Revguard


Get the book "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce, have some of the best public exercises of all material you can find. Its available on amazon [link to www.amazon.com]

In addition, get "The Gateway Experience" audio course by the Monroe Institute. The best audio lessons you can get on the same. [link to torrage.com] (First install [link to www.utorrent.com] or download will not work - and read about or buy the full course here: [link to www.thegatewayexperience.com] )

I can almost guarantee you will succeed greatly, using both these together.

I would also recommend you, as an addition, the free audio course on remote viewing by Courtney Brown, found here: [link to farsight.org]
 Quoting: SolarSon


Just wanted to add a few additional links for folk interested in learning more about LD's and AP's.

Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics can be found here for free: [link to www.gofaster.net] It's around 500 pages. Downloaded this one to my Ipad over the summer.

The Astral Pulse has lots of good info too. Sometimes folk get scared at the onset of AP. You may hear voices or see things(hypnogogia?)or experience weird body vibrations. This site does a great job of explaining that stuff and helping the novice begin an AP practice: [link to www.astralpulse.com]

The forum at Dream Views is an excellent resource for those interested in Lucid Dreaming. There are lots of techniques. So choose one that resonates with you and give it shot. If it doesn't work after a couple weeks try another:
[link to www.dreamviews.com]
 Quoting: Etiop


Weird body vibrations. This is exactly what happened to me. I thought my body was going to shatter. It felt as though I was vibrating very fast. Right up until the point I left my body. That is the last senstation I had before I "left my body".

Will check these links, thanks.
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You're welcome.

Figured I'd mention. It may scare people who don't know what to expect. Sleep paralysis happens every night. But it's weird when it happens while we're still conscious. It's equally strange when our dream vision or hearing kicks in when we're between wakefulness and sleep.

Yeah, I've experienced my body humming too. "Woke up" in my bedroom....only it wasn't. The atmosphere was hazy and glowing. Kinda cool, I think.
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SolarSon, I've had visitations, probably my entire life, but I began consciously remembering them on December 21-23, 2007.

First it was the Greys. They visited me a lot in 2008-2009. Then, after one specific encounter I remember rather well, they stopped coming, and a Mantis type began visiting me.

Do you have any information on the Greys and Mantis? More importantly, I would like info on Mantis, as I pretty much figured out the Greys.

Thanks!
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Solar Son,
So...were you suggesting opening the third eye is a bad thing? One should avoid doing so? Can your third eye be opened safely? You make it sound like a major security risk.
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So that makes you Reptilian?
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Since the world was created to entrap Humans, they also needed someone to guard it and be directly involved here to keep it functional. Thus, other "Reptilians" were also incarnated in "Human" bodies on Earth. The Human body would thus in turn take on characteristics from the Reptilian host, programmed into the cellular memory & DNA, and when Reptilians started to breed with Humans, new hybrids were born, that are a mix of Reptilians and Humans.

The Reptilians, in general, were put into places of Power in Mankinds society, while the Humans were put into places of Serving, or Slavery.

However, that DID change to some degree, because of Humans managing to take over certain areas, or infiltrate back in the Reptilians domains, and also thanks to the hybrid race, which offspring often assists the Human race towards rebellion against the pure Reptilian race.

Physically speaking, there is no difference between either of the 3 races - and in fact there are several other races involved on Earth as of this moment too, and other entities and beings have also influenced and controlled the Human race through all the time that has passed since the very first physical incarnations.

But, the physical Human body is always "Human" regardless of the "Controller" of the Body. The stories about Reptilian shapeshifters are based on misconceptions and people who do not understand what is really going on. There are no such things as "shapeshifters" in the physical sense of the word. ALL non-human entities that impose as "Humans" do so spiritually, meaning that they have a Human Body just like you and anyone else. The only difference is the inner self, the spirit inhabitating the body.

The reason there exist stories about "Shapeshifters" is simply because certain people have a more active spirit-vision or "astral sight", meaning they are "psychic" and can see the true form of such beings - and not knowing that what they really see is spiritual in nature, they misinterpret their experience as seeing a Human transform into a Reptilian, when in reality they saw the Human body, and the Reptilian inside it.
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Which of the three are you? Who is the controller of your body?
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lol the masons are good, n the church is bad, n so are the muslims...

lucifer, yahweh and allah
probably three brothers having an alpha biotch match...
whose priestly magical tantra is the purist and most powerful??? Your tantric method given so far I read about in an ordinary Taosit book.

btw don't place the Dali Lama as equal to this crew...
he gives his money to feed monks and nuns not to hoard in palaces, or put in the basement of temples. He owns a watch a pair of shoes and two sets of robes. He teaches peace and virtue and he lives peace and virtue. Show me an example otherwise. His equals are more like Ghandi and Mother Teresa.


I appreciate your honesty, no doubt.
Do you believe in the Christ, God's Son?
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I know Jesus was a real living man if that is what you mean. He was also one of the earlier leaders of a secret order that still lives on today. His teachings were destroyed by the evil groups that wanted to shut down the truth he spread , thus the bible and christian teachings were perverted and altered by the Church / Vatican, whom are the true evil of the world, misleading through Religion.
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lol
in 10" you go from Spain to Germany.

Nice hack proxy program you got going.
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One question I have concerns the work of the Keshe Foundation. Do you have any thoughts about this?
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I am not familiar with the foundation at all so I cant comment. If your question relates to a specific type of technology, give me some details on that, and if I know anything about the technology itself I will answer more properly.
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I'm very serous about this. In my next life I want to be a farmer on a very large and profitable farm. I want to be the son of the owners of this farm and have it passed to me as it have been done though out history.

How do I make this happen.
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One question I have concerns the work of the Keshe Foundation. Do you have any thoughts about this?
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I am not familiar with the foundation at all so I cant comment. If your question relates to a specific type of technology, give me some details on that, and if I know anything about the technology itself I will answer more properly.
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Free energy technology based on the Torus design.


The torus is the key. Sadly TPTB know it and keep it from us.

Energy into a Torus type "vortex" and more energy out.
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Solar Son:

1. SO, is our soul a large, liquid blue shimmering blob that stands up about our height but wider? And then pours itself into us through the top of our head?

2. Or a blue electric sparkling somewhat duplicate of our physical body, only smaller, see through, and with bones visible? That exists full length up and down in our current body, sometimes upside down?

Also, totally off subject, could you please put a picture icon under your user name so your posts are easier to find?

Thanks
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Since you most likely are referring to the inner energy body constrained within the physical body rather than the actual soul (the Soul being outside of the body, somewhere not perceivable from here), you are somewhat correct.

This is however the astral body, more appropriately said. It is not the Soul, but rather the "spirit" of your current physical self, your individual experience. You also have other "spirit parts" in other bodies elsewhere, all connected to the same Soul.

Astral sight or "psychic vision" can let you see the actual energy body, or astral body, whatever term you want to use, that which I am calling "spirit" now in this context. The colors varies, and depends on many factors. The Aura that some people can see is the outer layer of this energy body, the "spirit". This form is usually eggshaped, and can be seen as bright white if only partial astral sight is active, in a sort of transparent ghostly form. It usually extends up a bit above the head - but not much, and is wider on the sides as you theorize. It moves in circular cyclic pattern, but this can also vary a bit depending on how well the persons energy system functions and how active his different energy centers, or chakras, are. Think of a torus shaped energy form, with its center part flowing in and out within the center of the body, in head and feet. Here is a good illustration of a torus shaped vortex form that is similar:
[link to www.light-weaver.com]

The above illustration is a general one I found just to show what a "torus" is for those who doesnt know, it is much wider than what it would be in a humans energy body. Nevertheless it is a good representation, imagine yourself in the center of it, with energy flowing in and out of the head and feet (top and bottom).

Will see if I can figure out how to select a image for my username as requested.
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One question I have concerns the work of the Keshe Foundation. Do you have any thoughts about this?
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I am not familiar with the foundation at all so I cant comment. If your question relates to a specific type of technology, give me some details on that, and if I know anything about the technology itself I will answer more properly.
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Free energy technology based on the Torus design.


The torus is the key. Sadly TPTB know it and keep it from us.

Energy into a Torus type "vortex" and more energy out.
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Speak of coincidence! You mention Torus just minutes before me, when I was explaining something completely else. That is synchronicity at its best - a topic I should properly explain in detail on its own later on.
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One question I have concerns the work of the Keshe Foundation. Do you have any thoughts about this?
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I am not familiar with the foundation at all so I cant comment. If your question relates to a specific type of technology, give me some details on that, and if I know anything about the technology itself I will answer more properly.
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Free energy technology based on the Torus design.


The torus is the key. Sadly TPTB know it and keep it from us.

Energy into a Torus type "vortex" and more energy out.
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Speak of coincidence! You mention Torus just minutes before me, when I was explaining something completely else. That is synchronicity at its best - a topic I should properly explain in detail on its own later on.
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There are no coicidences, but I am sure you know that.

*wink*

Namaste

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One question I have concerns the work of the Keshe Foundation. Do you have any thoughts about this?
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I am not familiar with the foundation at all so I cant comment. If your question relates to a specific type of technology, give me some details on that, and if I know anything about the technology itself I will answer more properly.
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Free energy technology based on the Torus design.


The torus is the key. Sadly TPTB know it and keep it from us.

Energy into a Torus type "vortex" and more energy out.
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My comment was actually a bit more invovled.

Like many of us who anticipated the September 21st reveal date, I waited. Hearing nothing, it was afterwards that I went to their site to follow up.

This is when I discovered that some of their work included bio-medical nanotechnology.

This is a field that disturbs me, as it has already been proven that these extremely small particles can be absorbed into the bloodstream, thus accumulating within the body to do unanticipated harm.

My belief is that this technology should not be used in a widespread fashion. These minute particles have broken off, shed from clothing and foods, to become airborne and absorbed by the body.

The discovery that Keshe seems to embrace this has led me to wonder just how 'wonderful' they really are,

This is what I actually presented to SolarSun for his consideration.

If they are just another pack of wolves in lamb's clothing, I want to be aware.

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