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SolarSon

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Hola SolarSon,

A very interesting read - thank you.

I have a few serious questions:

1) Where are the boundaries of this physical universe that was created to contain us?
2) Will humans be allowed to explore this universe?
3) What is the true nature of the Moon and how is it used?
4) Is this physical universe accessible to other entities that are free like we once were?
4) Why is there a push to deny humans the usage of tobacco (smoking)?
5) Are there failsafe mechanisms in place so that humans that are not part of ancient orders do not gain too much power and influence here on Earth?
6) Are the Ancients the same as the Guardians? Like the wardens in a prison?
7) Do other mammals like dogs have a non-physical soul too?
8) If so, are those souls too being absorbed by the agressor?
9) Once a soul has "liberated" itself from the cycle - does this soul have the power to enter into different planes of reality - including the Earth plane? Could such a soul claim a body before birth?
10) How and who decides where a soul incarnates?
11) At what stage of the pregnacy does the incarnation occur?
12) What is the true significance and future of Israel?
13) Is there a special need or use for gold by the agressor?

Thanks in advance.

RR
 Quoting: Rey Rogers


1. The boundaries are beyond the 7th sphere within itself. It is impossible to properly give a measure on this, in the same way it is impossible for you to tell me where the limit of your Mind is, between itself and your physical brain.

2. Humans are already exploring the Universe. Earth is one of the later discoveries.

3. Yes, if in free you mean in spirit form. We work with these beings, as they assist us to get back to where we came from. Secret Orders are run by these beings on top level, whether they are of negative or positive polarity.

4. Tobacco is pushed away because its smoke is cleansing on the mind and body, removes negative energies. You will see Marijuana being pushed towards you and become more legalized, since it is a smoke of negative energies, that takes control of your mind and body.

5. The only real failsafe is the lack of true knowledge and experience.

6. Ancients, and Guardians, depends on your point of view. There are different levels of them both. As in, the original Guardians, and the original Ancients. There are many generations. If you go to the first, you can say that the original Guardians are the Creators of the Physical world, and the original Ancients are the first physical slaves of that world.

7. All Life have a Soul. Animals, Insects, Plants alike.

8. All souls are abused, and the more advanced the soul, the more use it has.

9. A free soul can go wherever it wants to, including back to a physical incarnation here on Earth. But, that comes with its dangers and risks, it may forget all over again where it is.

10. You can decide yourself or leave it to faith as far as where you get incarnated. I do not know the algorithms in place for faith though.

11. I would think incarnation takes place at conception. This is just my feelings though and not something I have ever confirmed.

12. Israel is part of the ancient order of Guardians, the ones in power. It is to a large extent engineered from there, or at least it was. Now the true power is anywhere, and the real origins lost to Consciousness.

13. Gold is used for certain technological advancements and biological enhancements but nothing really more.
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I don't think this has been asked, and I apologize if you have answered this question.

What is the Secret Societies connection to Orion and why did Da Vinci paint the Orion Nebula/Nile Delta in the "Last Supper" painting.

Thank you very much for answering our questions.
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You almost answered your own question there.

Orion and Christ Consciousness. Simply, the origins of that specific awakening. Jesus himself came from elsewhere, to assist mankind towards their true origins.
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OP, question about MJ. I don't smoke it but I do use a bit in tea - not enough to feel high, but it's the only thing I've found (that I'm not allergic to) that alleviates RLS. It also has dramatically increased my stamina and lung capacity. Again, I don't smoke it - use about the size of a small pea of dried MJ in my tea once a day. Will that adversely affect my progress or not? Thanks! I'm thoroughly enjoying your contributions.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


Humans have been smoking and eating Cannabis for thousands, if not millions of years. It can actually speed up spiritual and soul progress. It is a tool and medicine used by Shamans and Magi for thousands of years and only recently has it been made illegal or placed in a bad light via Big Pharma propaganda.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


To the contrary, it will demolish your spirituality and progress.

It is true, that it is used by Shamans and Magi, but that does not equal it being positive in return to the source.

Cannabis is very deceitful, it will lure you in and make you BELIEVE you are progressing and advancing, while in reality you are going BACK.

This is why it is becoming more and more LEGAL, and ACCEPTED, since that is the whole POINT.

I know from my own direct involvement with those in charge of putting Cannabis into popularity in the world that there is a conspiracy upon the conspiracy - they WANT YOU TO TAKE IT.

It will become more legal in more countries as you wills see, while Tobacco will become more pushed away. This is because Tobacco is actually CLEANSING and removes the NEGATIVE ENERGIES - Tobacco is ALSO a Shamanic plant, but a positive one unlike Cannabis.
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So that makes you Reptilian?
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Since the world was created to entrap Humans, they also needed someone to guard it and be directly involved here to keep it functional. Thus, other "Reptilians" were also incarnated in "Human" bodies on Earth. The Human body would thus in turn take on characteristics from the Reptilian host, programmed into the cellular memory & DNA, and when Reptilians started to breed with Humans, new hybrids were born, that are a mix of Reptilians and Humans.

The Reptilians, in general, were put into places of Power in Mankinds society, while the Humans were put into places of Serving, or Slavery.

However, that DID change to some degree, because of Humans managing to take over certain areas, or infiltrate back in the Reptilians domains, and also thanks to the hybrid race, which offspring often assists the Human race towards rebellion against the pure Reptilian race.

Physically speaking, there is no difference between either of the 3 races - and in fact there are several other races involved on Earth as of this moment too, and other entities and beings have also influenced and controlled the Human race through all the time that has passed since the very first physical incarnations.

But, the physical Human body is always "Human" regardless of the "Controller" of the Body. The stories about Reptilian shapeshifters are based on misconceptions and people who do not understand what is really going on. There are no such things as "shapeshifters" in the physical sense of the word. ALL non-human entities that impose as "Humans" do so spiritually, meaning that they have a Human Body just like you and anyone else. The only difference is the inner self, the spirit inhabitating the body.

The reason there exist stories about "Shapeshifters" is simply because certain people have a more active spirit-vision or "astral sight", meaning they are "psychic" and can see the true form of such beings - and not knowing that what they really see is spiritual in nature, they misinterpret their experience as seeing a Human transform into a Reptilian, when in reality they saw the Human body, and the Reptilian inside it.
 Quoting: SolarSon




Wait, this is confusing. Spirit, Body. Why would a reptilian spirit affect a human body, or inhabit one, if there wasn't physical races, or the semi physical races, of actual reptilians. Why would it have that spirit form to begin with?

I've had encounters with reptilians and felines here as well. Physical enough to manifest as these fast moving shadows that lept out when close, and a light appeared making outline jump out. 3 of us saw this. Very tall, maybe 9 feet. Also insight, telepathic communication. That I pulled away from. Not to mention sensing them. And the dragons/snakes in the sky, what are they then? I've had some weird monitoring.

Now, from what I understand there are many different reptilian physical by our ideas, though not necessarily our channel 98.5 FM, but close enough, and others.

We're not the only body suit, though I agree we are one of the common ones.

I'm also someone who can see the form in the person, or the morphing.

And in pictures, such as the House Of Windsor, certain photos, (which by the way are extremely interactive and not exactly what we think, photos are a lot more gateway than what we think). But I've been hit with the negative energy from what I call a Draco and nearly knocked out of my chair.

Also, at the school, waiting for an Learning Assistant Meeting with my son who has apraxia. I felt this intense danger behind me, and literally felt I was on Guard Duty, To Protect the Children. The danger was coming from behind me, and I turn around and its the picture of Queen Elizabeth on the wall.

From what I understand, reptilian is both a real body suit, and a spiritual expression of predator, or dog eat dog, elitist. STS not STO.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


I am not sure if I understand your questions.

But, spirit always comes before physical.

And anything can mimic and imitate - you see that here too, in the physical world alone. You see people mimicing the spirit world, or other wildlife of nature, for different purposes.

So does the spirits mimic the physical. This is where the reptilian spirit comes into play in human bodies. To sneak its way into the masses and be among you without you noticing.
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I haven't been terribly impressed with the OP's "secrets".

Pretty sure I have seen the same kind of theories widely available on the internet for 10 years.

He just seems like a new agey researcher.


Rothschild's thread is by far the most believable "insider" thread on GLP. He doesn't sugar coat...in fact he doesn't lie at all...Here is an authentic "elite" guy and how he acts towards the peasants:

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Yes, there are a lot of truths there, but only truths to HIS advantage.

He is one of those I am against, even though we are part of much of the same.

He is of the Controllers, while I am of the Liberators.
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You say Cannabis would open you to psychic attacks? I guess then Cannabis is to be blamed for existence of psychic attacks?.
While those doing all those aggression upon everyone else is what really the problem is.. Not cannabis..

How your psyche could be attacked if none is attacking?.. And then if they are attacking is it true that if you do not smoke you will not be deceived or harmed as you say??

Hmmm most of people do not smoke.. And their condition is not really helpful either..

Do not even mention condition of people in so called high ranks.. They are The last people in the world whose advice I would take seriously.. As none are more deceived then them..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23058480


Where do you find most Paranoia - in "normal people" or "marijuana smoking people"?

The answer is obvious, and its obvious because of its very truth - Marijuana is NEGATIVE.
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Is there any merit in just moving forward in your own natural way, your mind SET on never returning to corporeal life, without having to study the how to do it's of other people?

I have practiced meditation on and off since I was a teenager, but, not always with an intensity to move beyond this plane. At this point, it mostly amounts to moments of time, where I close my eyes and imagine balance.

There were two times I am certain 'I' levitated, but, as I was in a group, it could not last long enough.

Many years ago, while sitting quite centered with an 'aunt' (family friend) discussing transcendental meditation, I found myself shrouded in a golden light. After I returned, she asked me what I experienced, knowing 'I' had been traveling outside my self. It was spontaneous, while she was talking.

I have always attributed this unusual circumstance, of just sitting there talking as I achieved this state, to the fact that she, herself, was a one-a-in-a-million marvel, from which glorious things emanated.

Unique among her circle of friends and family, they regularly gathered at her kitchen table in the early 60's to discuss Cayce, Atlantis, Lemuria, the soul's purpose--until the day she simply picked up and moved to the desert of Las Vegas. She was never concerned that none of them traveled beyond their esoteric discussions with her. She was 'not' a hippie, was born during the depression, and, if not for the words she spoke, no one would think her anything but a mainstream wife and mother. Maybe is was her name that sealed her future: Gloria.

Throughout this entire thread I have read the titles of books that have been suggested, wondering if I MUST go so far, also. While I am always eager to learn things, I have never been one to follow 'recipes.'


So, I am asking if you would be so kind as to refer back to my original question. Can this be achieved entirely on one's own, without technique books, videos, and, such?

thank you hf hf
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Who is the one Asking, and who is the one Answering?

If you truly knew them both, it would be obvious.

EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE HAPPENS BECAUSE OF YOURSELF.

You are your OWN Teacher, and you are your OWN Student.

The problem is, you experience yourself as only a smaller part of what you are in your full.

Thus, you live in the illusion of "others".
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i have to warn you that OP is mixing truth with lies. take this at your own risk.

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Dont do that most of insiders and truth providers? He its inside, so the probabilities of him using the classical deceiving maneuver are high - mixing truth with lies etc.

OP, are you honest and truly want the best for the readers?
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Of course I am honest and want the best for you. But would not a liar say the same?
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I disagree the animals in the farm know exactly what is going on. you sir have not been on a cattle ranch they know when to go when to stay and when to play dead (so to speak) you fail at role playing and have no life experience outside of your city state enjoy your desk job .
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SolarSon, I have a quick question. (I encourage anyone to answer this if you have knowledge of it)

When you reincarnate, do you do so in the same race every time, or can it be across all the different races...white, asian, black, etc....?

Thanks
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You may, or you may not. You can go anywhere you really want, even other animals.

But, it is easier within bloodlines, and of same race, etc.
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You say Cannabis would open you to psychic attacks? I guess then Cannabis is to be blamed for existence of psychic attacks?.
While those doing all those aggression upon everyone else is what really the problem is.. Not cannabis..

How your psyche could be attacked if none is attacking?.. And then if they are attacking is it true that if you do not smoke you will not be deceived or harmed as you say??

Hmmm most of people do not smoke.. And their condition is not really helpful either..

Do not even mention condition of people in so called high ranks.. They are The last people in the world whose advice I would take seriously.. As none are more deceived then them..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23058480


Where do you find most Paranoia - in "normal people" or "marijuana smoking people"?

The answer is obvious, and its obvious because of its very truth - Marijuana is NEGATIVE.
 Quoting: SolarSon


Hmm, as someone who has quit smoking, for now, I am not sure I agree with your assessment.

How do you explain all of the benefits of hemp? If we could legally grow it there would never be illness, starvation or cancer (at least much less of these) and alternative fuels would undermine the oil oligarchs...

AND only some people react w paranoia... for many it relaxes and makes for greater enjoyment of life... music sounds better, food tastes better and ideas flow in creative, loving and non-violent ways...

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please solar sun deliver me from my own doubt ! omg i cant think for myself! people he hasnt said anything interesting in 40= pages what makes you think he has answers ? Pull up your socks and make YOUR LIFE its not hard just do it ffs.
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Jim Jones do i have to drink the kool aid?
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I disagree the animals in the farm know exactly what is going on. you sir have not been on a cattle ranch they know when to go when to stay and when to play dead (so to speak) you fail at role playing and have no life experience outside of your city state enjoy your desk job .
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To the very contrast of your beliefs, I live in a small town of less than 10 000 people, and actually own my own ranch.

But yes, at the same time, I speak in general metaphors for sake of simplicity. On a spiritual and psychological level, an animal may of course feel what is going on.

So may a Plant for that matter, in fact, plants are some of the most psychic beings on Earth.
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If you claim yahweh to be the one who originally enslaved us before we were manipulated by other entities who came after he departed, why are you using his god name in the LBRP, all the names you are vibrating belong to this God, why are you not calling out to the true God?
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Using the name "yahweh" is of course symbolic, it is a reference. You can call it anything. But as far as the historical literature goes, the bible, "yahweh" there refers to the "evil" entity.

During the LBRP, you would obviously replacve "yahweh" with anything else if you feel it has a negative energy to it.

In the end, YOUR intention is everything, no words have magic on their own.
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99 percent of the 33+ degree Freemason aka Illuminati (or whatever you wish to call us with clean pineal glands in touch with our 6th senses) secrets are in this thread> 777 is the number of god because i am god...i reveal 99 percent of them because I'm a 99 degree secret Freemason,secret because i have them and reveal them...i am of the Grail and Vril bloodlines, which only means i got esp and psi abilities,which others have to a "degree" also...my esp/psi(yoda/vader) abilities can be very dangerous is how i can reveal the secrets and not worry about any threats...seriously...i never took no stinking vows or oaths, for i did it myself without a lodge...of course I'm a 'prophecy' guy so that's why they left me alone to reveal the secrets which i choose too...dont believe me? if you read my/our 777 thread ,you just might...
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From your one post alone, I deduce that you are NOT a "99 degree Freemason", even the thought is ludicrous.

What rite do you claim to hail from?

As I can see, none at all.
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OP, question about MJ. I don't smoke it but I do use a bit in tea - not enough to feel high, but it's the only thing I've found (that I'm not allergic to) that alleviates RLS. It also has dramatically increased my stamina and lung capacity. Again, I don't smoke it - use about the size of a small pea of dried MJ in my tea once a day. Will that adversely affect my progress or not? Thanks! I'm thoroughly enjoying your contributions.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


Humans have been smoking and eating Cannabis for thousands, if not millions of years. It can actually speed up spiritual and soul progress. It is a tool and medicine used by Shamans and Magi for thousands of years and only recently has it been made illegal or placed in a bad light via Big Pharma propaganda.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


To the contrary, it will demolish your spirituality and progress.

It is true, that it is used by Shamans and Magi, but that does not equal it being positive in return to the source.

Cannabis is very deceitful, it will lure you in and make you BELIEVE you are progressing and advancing, while in reality you are going BACK.

This is why it is becoming more and more LEGAL, and ACCEPTED, since that is the whole POINT.

I know from my own direct involvement with those in charge of putting Cannabis into popularity in the world that there is a conspiracy upon the conspiracy - they WANT YOU TO TAKE IT.

It will become more legal in more countries as you wills see, while Tobacco will become more pushed away. This is because Tobacco is actually CLEANSING and removes the NEGATIVE ENERGIES - Tobacco is ALSO a Shamanic plant, but a positive one unlike Cannabis.
 Quoting: SolarSon


And I think you need to clarify this a bit: tobacco as it is currently sold, is laden with harmful chemicals and is probably not fulfilling the purpose you describe...

juicing Cannabis is known to heal many things and hemp oil is said to be the most balanced oil, in terms of omegas 3,6 and 9 for humans...

can you even eat tobacco and get good results?

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You say Cannabis would open you to psychic attacks? I guess then Cannabis is to be blamed for existence of psychic attacks?.
While those doing all those aggression upon everyone else is what really the problem is.. Not cannabis..

How your psyche could be attacked if none is attacking?.. And then if they are attacking is it true that if you do not smoke you will not be deceived or harmed as you say??

Hmmm most of people do not smoke.. And their condition is not really helpful either..

Do not even mention condition of people in so called high ranks.. They are The last people in the world whose advice I would take seriously.. As none are more deceived then them..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23058480


Where do you find most Paranoia - in "normal people" or "marijuana smoking people"?

The answer is obvious, and its obvious because of its very truth - Marijuana is NEGATIVE.
 Quoting: SolarSon


Hmm, as someone who has quit smoking, for now, I am not sure I agree with your assessment.

How do you explain all of the benefits of hemp? If we could legally grow it there would never be illness, starvation or cancer (at least much less of these) and alternative fuels would undermine the oil oligarchs...

AND only some people react w paranoia... for many it relaxes and makes for greater enjoyment of life... music sounds better, food tastes better and ideas flow in creative, loving and non-violent ways...

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


My question is not how many cannabis smokers experience paranoia, but rather, of NON-smokers and SMOKERS of cannabis, WHO experiences most paranoia? Certainly not the NON-smokers.

Also, cannabis smokers are of the most lazy people I have ever known, I have a problem seeing any of them properly taking care of illness, starvation, etc in a world they had to work for it.

I am not saying there are NO potential benefits, I am saying that the negative effects are larger.

And do be aware, I myself used to smoke Cannabis for almost 10 years so I know what I speak of
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And I think you need to clarify this a bit: tobacco as it is currently sold, is laden with harmful chemicals and is probably not fulfilling the purpose you describe...

juicing Cannabis is known to heal many things and hemp oil is said to be the most balanced oil, in terms of omegas 3,6 and 9 for humans...

can you even eat tobacco and get good results?

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Yes, Tobacco as sold now IS laced with nasty stuff, to counteract the good effects. This is because they know people will smoke it, so its better for them to still control it and make it worse.

Also, SMOKING marijuana does not give the positive health benefits, you have to EAT it.

There are the differences, Tobacco gives the good effects when smoked, whereas cannabis gives the good effects when eaten.
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OP, question about MJ. I don't smoke it but I do use a bit in tea - not enough to feel high, but it's the only thing I've found (that I'm not allergic to) that alleviates RLS. It also has dramatically increased my stamina and lung capacity. Again, I don't smoke it - use about the size of a small pea of dried MJ in my tea once a day. Will that adversely affect my progress or not? Thanks! I'm thoroughly enjoying your contributions.
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Humans have been smoking and eating Cannabis for thousands, if not millions of years. It can actually speed up spiritual and soul progress. It is a tool and medicine used by Shamans and Magi for thousands of years and only recently has it been made illegal or placed in a bad light via Big Pharma propaganda.
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To the contrary, it will demolish your spirituality and progress.

It is true, that it is used by Shamans and Magi, but that does not equal it being positive in return to the source.

Cannabis is very deceitful, it will lure you in and make you BELIEVE you are progressing and advancing, while in reality you are going BACK.

This is why it is becoming more and more LEGAL, and ACCEPTED, since that is the whole POINT.

I know from my own direct involvement with those in charge of putting Cannabis into popularity in the world that there is a conspiracy upon the conspiracy - they WANT YOU TO TAKE IT.

It will become more legal in more countries as you wills see, while Tobacco will become more pushed away. This is because Tobacco is actually CLEANSING and removes the NEGATIVE ENERGIES - Tobacco is ALSO a Shamanic plant, but a positive one unlike Cannabis.
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It seems like if they wanted us to smoke so bad they would just legalize GROWING it... instead it is a lucrative business and this seems more like the reason it is promoted, yet illegal...

the medicinal reasons and the fact that people are discovering that the govt. has been patenting these benefits seems like the real reason people are pushing for legalization and the movement is growing...

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You say Cannabis would open you to psychic attacks? I guess then Cannabis is to be blamed for existence of psychic attacks?.
While those doing all those aggression upon everyone else is what really the problem is.. Not cannabis..

How your psyche could be attacked if none is attacking?.. And then if they are attacking is it true that if you do not smoke you will not be deceived or harmed as you say??

Hmmm most of people do not smoke.. And their condition is not really helpful either..

Do not even mention condition of people in so called high ranks.. They are The last people in the world whose advice I would take seriously.. As none are more deceived then them..
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Where do you find most Paranoia - in "normal people" or "marijuana smoking people"?

The answer is obvious, and its obvious because of its very truth - Marijuana is NEGATIVE.
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Hmm, as someone who has quit smoking, for now, I am not sure I agree with your assessment.

How do you explain all of the benefits of hemp? If we could legally grow it there would never be illness, starvation or cancer (at least much less of these) and alternative fuels would undermine the oil oligarchs...

AND only some people react w paranoia... for many it relaxes and makes for greater enjoyment of life... music sounds better, food tastes better and ideas flow in creative, loving and non-violent ways...

:)
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My question is not how many cannabis smokers experience paranoia, but rather, of NON-smokers and SMOKERS of cannabis, WHO experiences most paranoia? Certainly not the NON-smokers.

Also, cannabis smokers are of the most lazy people I have ever known, I have a problem seeing any of them properly taking care of illness, starvation, etc in a world they had to work for it.

I am not saying there are NO potential benefits, I am saying that the negative effects are larger.

And do be aware, I myself used to smoke Cannabis for almost 10 years so I know what I speak of
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Thank you for the replies and I do not mean to offend by my insistence, but most of the pot smokers i have known are among the brightest and most motivated, to say nothing of the most creative and free spirited...

I have other reasons for not smoking...

as well, nowadays most everyone I know uses a vaporizer and the negative impacts are far less... the upside much better...

and eating it is exactly what I mean by being beneficial... anyone could grow it and eat it for health and never need a pill for anything...

misuse may be the main problem, but even as far as paranoia is concerned we are talking, iMO, about a very few people and these people seem to me to have other issues that put them in the very camp you seem to imply is so much smaller than the pot smokers... nope. i don't agree that paranoids tend to be pot smokers...

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OP, question about MJ. I don't smoke it but I do use a bit in tea - not enough to feel high, but it's the only thing I've found (that I'm not allergic to) that alleviates RLS. It also has dramatically increased my stamina and lung capacity. Again, I don't smoke it - use about the size of a small pea of dried MJ in my tea once a day. Will that adversely affect my progress or not? Thanks! I'm thoroughly enjoying your contributions.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


Humans have been smoking and eating Cannabis for thousands, if not millions of years. It can actually speed up spiritual and soul progress. It is a tool and medicine used by Shamans and Magi for thousands of years and only recently has it been made illegal or placed in a bad light via Big Pharma propaganda.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


To the contrary, it will demolish your spirituality and progress.

It is true, that it is used by Shamans and Magi, but that does not equal it being positive in return to the source.

Cannabis is very deceitful, it will lure you in and make you BELIEVE you are progressing and advancing, while in reality you are going BACK.

This is why it is becoming more and more LEGAL, and ACCEPTED, since that is the whole POINT.

I know from my own direct involvement with those in charge of putting Cannabis into popularity in the world that there is a conspiracy upon the conspiracy - they WANT YOU TO TAKE IT.

It will become more legal in more countries as you wills see, while Tobacco will become more pushed away. This is because Tobacco is actually CLEANSING and removes the NEGATIVE ENERGIES - Tobacco is ALSO a Shamanic plant, but a positive one unlike Cannabis.
 Quoting: SolarSon


It seems like if they wanted us to smoke so bad they would just legalize GROWING it... instead it is a lucrative business and this seems more like the reason it is promoted, yet illegal...

the medicinal reasons and the fact that people are discovering that the govt. has been patenting these benefits seems like the real reason people are pushing for legalization and the movement is growing...

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


What they want is to make you feel you are a rebellion doing the "right" thing, against the "system".

They WANT you to think there is a conspiracy to why you can NOT smoke it, to make you think it is because it is actually GOOD, so that the ones feeling "awakened" actually WILL smoke..

They want to control the "independent" ones.

Behind the scenes, they laugh at you, since they have SUCCEEDED in that very thing.

Think of it.
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So let's agree to disagree on the Cannabis question.

How about the Shroud of Turin?

What is your explanation for the recent BBC documentary showing the bad science of carbon dating and how did the Shroud come to be when it cannot be replicated?

Why are there so many who speak of a luciferian deception and who was "Morals and Dogma" written for?

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Where do you find most Paranoia - in "normal people" or "marijuana smoking people"?

The answer is obvious, and its obvious because of its very truth - Marijuana is NEGATIVE.
 Quoting: SolarSon


Hmm, as someone who has quit smoking, for now, I am not sure I agree with your assessment.

How do you explain all of the benefits of hemp? If we could legally grow it there would never be illness, starvation or cancer (at least much less of these) and alternative fuels would undermine the oil oligarchs...

AND only some people react w paranoia... for many it relaxes and makes for greater enjoyment of life... music sounds better, food tastes better and ideas flow in creative, loving and non-violent ways...

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


My question is not how many cannabis smokers experience paranoia, but rather, of NON-smokers and SMOKERS of cannabis, WHO experiences most paranoia? Certainly not the NON-smokers.

Also, cannabis smokers are of the most lazy people I have ever known, I have a problem seeing any of them properly taking care of illness, starvation, etc in a world they had to work for it.

I am not saying there are NO potential benefits, I am saying that the negative effects are larger.

And do be aware, I myself used to smoke Cannabis for almost 10 years so I know what I speak of
 Quoting: SolarSon



Thank you for the replies and I do not mean to offend by my insistence, but most of the pot smokers i have known are among the brightest and most motivated, to say nothing of the most creative and free spirited...

I have other reasons for not smoking...

as well, nowadays most everyone I know uses a vaporizer and the negative impacts are far less... the upside much better...

and eating it is exactly what I mean by being beneficial... anyone could grow it and eat it for health and never need a pill for anything...

misuse may be the main problem, but even as far as paranoia is concerned we are talking, iMO, about a very few people and these people seem to me to have other issues that put them in the very camp you seem to imply is so much smaller than the pot smokers... nope. i don't agree that paranoids tend to be pot smokers...

:)
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The paranoia is not the real issue here. The issue here is the feeling of "spiritual growth" and "mental clarity" etc. These are false feelings. You will come to understand this if you simply stay one year meditating daily without marijuana and then compare it to meditating daily with marijuana.

EVERYTHING YOU NEED YOU ALREADY GOT. EVERYTHING IS MENTAL.

Your substance will just trick your mind into BELIEVING you are getting what you "need" or what is "good" for you.
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Humans have been smoking and eating Cannabis for thousands, if not millions of years. It can actually speed up spiritual and soul progress. It is a tool and medicine used by Shamans and Magi for thousands of years and only recently has it been made illegal or placed in a bad light via Big Pharma propaganda.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


To the contrary, it will demolish your spirituality and progress.

It is true, that it is used by Shamans and Magi, but that does not equal it being positive in return to the source.

Cannabis is very deceitful, it will lure you in and make you BELIEVE you are progressing and advancing, while in reality you are going BACK.

This is why it is becoming more and more LEGAL, and ACCEPTED, since that is the whole POINT.

I know from my own direct involvement with those in charge of putting Cannabis into popularity in the world that there is a conspiracy upon the conspiracy - they WANT YOU TO TAKE IT.

It will become more legal in more countries as you wills see, while Tobacco will become more pushed away. This is because Tobacco is actually CLEANSING and removes the NEGATIVE ENERGIES - Tobacco is ALSO a Shamanic plant, but a positive one unlike Cannabis.
 Quoting: SolarSon


It seems like if they wanted us to smoke so bad they would just legalize GROWING it... instead it is a lucrative business and this seems more like the reason it is promoted, yet illegal...

the medicinal reasons and the fact that people are discovering that the govt. has been patenting these benefits seems like the real reason people are pushing for legalization and the movement is growing...

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


What they want is to make you feel you are a rebellion doing the "right" thing, against the "system".

They WANT you to think there is a conspiracy to why you can NOT smoke it, to make you think it is because it is actually GOOD, so that the ones feeling "awakened" actually WILL smoke..

They want to control the "independent" ones.

Behind the scenes, they laugh at you, since they have SUCCEEDED in that very thing.

Think of it.
 Quoting: SolarSon



Yes, this is a concern, as much as the fact that I cannot know how they grow the stuff... I suspect it is not good...

but still, there are many benefits from use of this plant and I tend to think misuse is the goal... both in terms of how often and simply how... spiritually...

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So let's agree to disagree on the Cannabis question.

How about the Shroud of Turin?

What is your explanation for the recent BBC documentary showing the bad science of carbon dating and how did the Shroud come to be when it cannot be replicated?

Why are there so many who speak of a luciferian deception and who was "Morals and Dogma" written for?

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


Honestly, I do not know if the Shroud is authentic or not, nor does it matter. You should concern yourself more about YOU than about some man from ancient past.

The Luciferian deception is twofold, on one hand there is the double-conspiracy, in a sense the same as with the marijuana vs tobacco we are discussing, and on the other hand there is the TRUTH.

What is the evil, and what is the good, and could the good falsely have been replaced with the evil?

Again, concern yourself more about you than any other individual or entity.
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Hmm, as someone who has quit smoking, for now, I am not sure I agree with your assessment.

How do you explain all of the benefits of hemp? If we could legally grow it there would never be illness, starvation or cancer (at least much less of these) and alternative fuels would undermine the oil oligarchs...

AND only some people react w paranoia... for many it relaxes and makes for greater enjoyment of life... music sounds better, food tastes better and ideas flow in creative, loving and non-violent ways...

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


My question is not how many cannabis smokers experience paranoia, but rather, of NON-smokers and SMOKERS of cannabis, WHO experiences most paranoia? Certainly not the NON-smokers.

Also, cannabis smokers are of the most lazy people I have ever known, I have a problem seeing any of them properly taking care of illness, starvation, etc in a world they had to work for it.

I am not saying there are NO potential benefits, I am saying that the negative effects are larger.

And do be aware, I myself used to smoke Cannabis for almost 10 years so I know what I speak of
 Quoting: SolarSon



Thank you for the replies and I do not mean to offend by my insistence, but most of the pot smokers i have known are among the brightest and most motivated, to say nothing of the most creative and free spirited...

I have other reasons for not smoking...

as well, nowadays most everyone I know uses a vaporizer and the negative impacts are far less... the upside much better...

and eating it is exactly what I mean by being beneficial... anyone could grow it and eat it for health and never need a pill for anything...

misuse may be the main problem, but even as far as paranoia is concerned we are talking, iMO, about a very few people and these people seem to me to have other issues that put them in the very camp you seem to imply is so much smaller than the pot smokers... nope. i don't agree that paranoids tend to be pot smokers...

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


The paranoia is not the real issue here. The issue here is the feeling of "spiritual growth" and "mental clarity" etc. These are false feelings. You will come to understand this if you simply stay one year meditating daily without marijuana and then compare it to meditating daily with marijuana.

EVERYTHING YOU NEED YOU ALREADY GOT. EVERYTHING IS MENTAL.

Your substance will just trick your mind into BELIEVING you are getting what you "need" or what is "good" for you.
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Yes, I am aware of this aspect... it is easy to become enamored of the sensual aspects of life...

I am not so sure I believe in meditation, but I do fast periodically, play music and pray, so I probably get a lot of practice in other ways... emptying my mind is not something I think will lead to less ego...

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So let's agree to disagree on the Cannabis question.

How about the Shroud of Turin?

What is your explanation for the recent BBC documentary showing the bad science of carbon dating and how did the Shroud come to be when it cannot be replicated?

Why are there so many who speak of a luciferian deception and who was "Morals and Dogma" written for?

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412


Honestly, I do not know if the Shroud is authentic or not, nor does it matter. You should concern yourself more about YOU than about some man from ancient past.

The Luciferian deception is twofold, on one hand there is the double-conspiracy, in a sense the same as with the marijuana vs tobacco we are discussing, and on the other hand there is the TRUTH.

What is the evil, and what is the good, and could the good falsely have been replaced with the evil?

Again, concern yourself more about you than any other individual or entity.
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I am most certainly concerned with myself when I consider that their is an intelligent design and an implication of an intelligent Designer... who's son appears to have visited us in the form of Jesus Christ...

As well, there may be spiritual laws we become ignorant of by focusing on ourselves solely...

why, for instance, have so many suffering from demonic energies been helped by calling on Jesus Christ? and why, within the supposed "alien" phenomenon are hybrid children being made and why is it the only religion they criticize is Christ-centered?

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I would also like to know why the record of people leaving the secret orders is quite bleak except in the case of those who turn to Jesus Christ?

Men like Roger Morneau ( [link to youtu.be]

and Mark Cleminsen ( [link to youtu.be]

who otherwise would have been killed?

Or Earthquake Kelly?

Or Carolyn Hamlett?

Why this pattern of spiritual laws taking effect within the context of Jesus Christ? yet you say it is unimportant? But it was not for them and many others.

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