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Even if you forsee a few more bumps in the road, is the goal within reach in the near future?
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I don't like to make predictions, because they really can not be made. The future is never set in stone, it is always "now", and it can always change.

Even two thousand years ago we thought we were close, yet still here we are, striving for the same.

But, it DOES look brighter than ever before, and more of what you would call "good" people are getting into the higher positions of society, into power, and more of the "evil" ones are falling down, than ever before.

So, ultimately, taking the past into consideration, I would say we are close.
 Quoting: SolarSon


Are we basically waiting on those who dont think to question anything to wake up? Are tge needed? Or is that even possible.. it definetely seems the house of cards used to control for so long is falling apart.. almost seems deliberate


What are your thoughts on dreams.. when i started reading peoples thoughts on lucud and astral, it seemed like something ive been doin for some time just not aware of the terms

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Love, Light, and prosperity upon all!

12/21/2012 marked the end of the old male cycle.

The 13,000 year cycle, at which we always seem to become weaker in consciousness.

The dark cabal knows this, and always attempts to take over during these dark times.

They might have think they have succeeded; however, they are wrong. They are a mere thorn on the side, a road bump.

For where we are going in the VERY NEAR future, is so beautiful that is is indescribable.

This extremely dense, 3 Dimensional duality of which we inhabit will never be the same, again.

Our divine mother (Earth) and our divine father (Sun) and the source of all creation (The center of our galaxy) is very well aware, not only aware, but making this change happen. Even in the darkest, densest areas of our galaxy,(Our solar system) will receive the rays of golden light, the cosmic energy.

Spiritually know that the Heart of the Earth, the Heart of the Sun and the Heart of our Galaxy, as living beings, are intimately connected.

All the angels, archangels, and masters are waiting for us to join them in the higher dimensions.
Beautiful!
and the new 300,000+ different cultures ETs all around the universe who currently reside in the higher dimension of mother earth, have come here at this time to witness us make this transition into the higher realms of mother earth in love and light.

The new female cycle begins, and brings us back into harmony with earth and mother nature.

The window of global change is now opening!

what a FANTASTIC time to be alive, here on earth right now!

Birth is inevitable.

Love, light, and prosperity to all!
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Oh, I know what I'd like to ask you--


Are you old enough to remember Tiananmen Square and the Tank Man incident in the late 80's?...if so, do you remember the Tank Man being run over, or as being spirited to the side of the road like it's recorded in history?

I don't know if you know about this, but there's quite a number of people who remember him dying that day, and remember it that way, without doubt or reserve, and are shocked to the core that it's not reflected this way in history books, on the Internet...nowhere, but our clear memory.

How does this happen? Timeline shift? Population memory control (that failed for some)?...something else?

I'd love to read what you have to say about timeline shifting, even in general.
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This is a very important question. In fact, crucial, for anyone wanting to achieve self-realization.

Yes, I do remember the "Tank man". It did have a certain impact on me as well. Not in the way you describe it though, but I am very familiar with the scenario you put forth.

What happened for those who remember an event taking place differently than it "really" took place is that those people remember what happened in an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE - A different VERSION of our WORLD.

We are ALWAYS connected to those other worlds, every second of every day, and the same cause explains so called "deja vu" experiences etc.

There is an unlimited amount of "alternate universes" around us, where all kinds of events take place at all times, and all choices you can make, are being made.

When you look back at your life, and all the choices you have done, wondering "What would my life have been like if I had done that, instead of this?", you can be sure that there exist a version of "you" in one of these alternate worlds that HAVE taken that other choice.

In fact, this is one of the ways we can learn great things, and achieve tremendous powers, as we are already capable of traveling to those other alternate worlds, and see the effects of those other choices.

You can travel to any parallel self at any time, and find out how your life would be in a different situation, and thus learn from that and bring the knowledge back with you HERE, and put it into action, and achieve those results you saw in the parallel world.

This is one of the greatly guarded secrets of those in powers, as they take advantage of this all the time, to make the best choices in life, that will give them the most power and control over the rest.

You are everywhere and in all times of history, doing all kinds of choices, at the same time. When you become aware of that, and understand how to control it, you become as a God.
 Quoting: SolarSon


That answer triggers so many question.
If there is another 'me' in parallel universer (concept that I embrace), well, is not 'me' or we have to define what is 'me' or what am I.
Does sleeping have to do with visiting other parallels universes?
This is getting more and more interesting.
Thanks SS
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Thank you so much OP, this is good stuff. I'm glad you posted your picture I've been reading your material for a few years I think. So thanks again keep ip the good work!
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Theosophical Society
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I founded that Society in a past life.

I was Helena Blavatsky
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How was your memory not wiped clean? How can you remember, and what good did it do you to remember?
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Wolf in sheep's clothing, OP is.

yoda
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There must be some truth in what you're saying, OP, as all these people are trying their best to shout you down. They don't want me to listen to you and make up my own mind. Thanks for ignoring them.
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Why is this pinned? This is total role-play trash, and not even a good role-play it's full of contradiction.
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See what I mean? They just can't stand for me to read what OP says.
How about letting me make up my own mind?
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wonders why no one in these secrete orders can keep a secrete....
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Theosophical Society
 Quoting: SolarSon


I founded that Society in a past life.

I was Helena Blavatsky
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


How was your memory not wiped clean? How can you remember, and what good did it do you to remember?
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Hi Solarson, thank you so much for your knowledge, wisdom and help. It is very appreciated.

Solarson, I have a question regarding the music industry.

Have you heard of John Todd? here is a link [link to www.youtube.com]

Is this true? How is the music written, is it written by other entities? Do those who sell their souls for fame and fortune gain a temporary/full possession and the spirit then writes the music for them ?

What does selling your soul mean? Would be curious to know about this.
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Hi Solarson, thank you so much for your knowledge, wisdom and help. It is very appreciated.

Solarson, I have a question regarding the music industry.

Have you heard of John Todd? here is a link [link to www.youtube.com]

Is this true? How is the music written, is it written by other entities? Do those who sell their souls for fame and fortune gain a temporary/full possession and the spirit then writes the music for them ?

What does selling your soul mean? Would be curious to know about this.
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That answer triggers so many question.
If there is another 'me' in parallel universer (concept that I embrace), well, is not 'me' or we have to define what is 'me' or what am I.
Does sleeping have to do with visiting other parallels universes?
This is getting more and more interesting.
Thanks SS
 Quoting: miqq


Do not worry about the new age interdimensional split theories.

Rather look at your own interdimensional being and discover that it is of no importance in the long run - you are already there in several of the so called "densities".

When it comes to dejavu it is the effect of different causes. One of them can be a connection with one of your other selves which again relates to your interdimensional being, and this is most often the cause. For a short moment of time you receive input from one of your other experiences. There's many other causes for dejavus too but they are not really significant or important.

These experiences are going on simultaneously even though "time" seem to separate them.

As someone once said "Call me Legion, for I am many". And that saying goes for all of us.

Reality is that we are more than "one" physical and spiritual being. This is in a way that I can explain as a myriad of parallel alternate versions of yourself, exists in the same moment and their development unfolds together with your own, and that all of your other selves are connected to a "higher self" or "soul" and that which these physical bodies have within them is only a portion of that complete soul, such as our astral bodies etc, like branches of a tree and leaves on the branches.

Ultimately, we develop ourselves inwards, and not outwards, meaning that each of your own selves will not "expand" in consciousness and physical and spiritual development, but rather "implode" into that "higher soul" or "true being" that you are - and that the experiences of all your alternate selves will at some moment merge with this "higher soul" and create a Oneness where you will experience yourself from a completely new perspective and see yourself as the being you really are.

Then, you will as this new "Oneness" become "free" from the current location where you are (or rather where the "higer soul" is located) and "ascend" to higher realms and be free of all physical bonds and continue the spiritual and mental development and understanding. But there is more after this "Oneness" is achieved too, higher "realms" and new things to discover about reality of Being and Existence.

In other words, to give you a better idea, there are alternate versions of ourselves in alternate (parallel) worlds/dimensions (whatever you want to call it). And each of them contain a soul-fragment, or astral body and various other energy bodies, which are connected to the "true" soul (or "higher soul").

I would say it goes a bit further up than our "higher self", as our "higher self" is basically being aware of the highest aspect of our current incarnation here and being our best in this single plane and do not necessarily include the knowledge of these "other selves".

And yes they are unique, and they consist of all time-frames, meaning past, present and future, in other words all earlier incarnations and future reincarnations is out there already enfolding their experiences and existence on their own, without general knowledge of the other selves which all gradually develop towards the Oneness with the Higher Soul, or True Self - and once that is reached, all of these alternate versions of oneself will merge with ones Higher Soul and become the Oneness and progress towards further development, understanding and insights, as well as experiences on a higher level of existence.

I guess you can say the "Higher Soul" is the "host", and all the alternate versions of ourselves down "here" (on the lower planes) are the "clients". Sort of like a tree, it has branches with many leaves, and at certain points such as winter the tree (host) will suck in all its resin so the leaves withers and falls of and dies, yet the tree itself stays alive.

So, in that sense, you can compare your body here with that of a leaf of a tree, a leaf that is not aware of the tree it is connected to, and at a certain point the life force will be sucked out of the leaf (you) and back to the tree (higher soul) and become one again. But it do not sprout new leaves (bodies) but instead evolves to another state of being (The Higher Soul as Oneness).

This means that YOU, the one sitting there reading this line now, is one such Soul Fragment of your true Higher Soul. And at the same time there exists different other soul fragments in other bodies spread around in time and space living their own separate individual lives, not being aware of each other or their connection.

It is however necessary to expand some on this and give some further explanations.

Our Higher Soul may in fact be a Higher Soul Fragment of yet another Higher Soul - and our Soul Fragments may become equal to Higher Souls on ascension after physical death, meaning they too get the ability to spread new Soul Fragments into new bodies.

What does this mean practically, you may ask. Let me explain:

You, the person you are living as now, are a soul fragment of a Higher Soul. At the same time other soul fragments are spread around that have been spawned from the same Higher Soul, meaning that several people living at the same time are parallel and simultaneous versions of each other.

This further means that if any of these connected soul fragments, or parallel selves, did a past life regression to the life prior to the current one, all of them would experience the Higher Soul that they have spawned from as their last life before this.

And this explains many things, and actually makes a lot of sense if you look at it - for example many people claim to have been various famous historical people in the past. Most people would think that only one of them could be telling the truth, and the rest either lie or be imagining it.

But with the concept of the Higher Souls and Soul Fragments, and the Soul Fragments being able to turn into the same state as the Higher Souls at ascension after Death, and that Higher Souls may very well be Soul Fragments of yet other Higer Souls again, it means that it is indeed quite possible for several people to have been the same person in the past.

This is explained by the person whom they all were in a past life having ascended and spawned new Soul Fragments into new bodies, thus creating several new parallel people existing at the same time, as well as in different times and locations in space, meaning that all those current people whom are the Soul Fragments of this Past Person would go back in the same incarnation line to this Past Person when doing a Past Life Regression simply because this Past Person in a sense was the Higher Soul of these current living Soul Fragments, or Parallel Persons.

Thus, we exist as Soul Fragments of a Higher Soul which in turn may have been a Soul Fragment of another Higher Soul in its time, and so on into the long gone past, all the way up to Higher and Higher Souls, up to the very level of the Ultimate Soul - God - The Source of the First Higher Souls and Soul Fragments.

When it comes to reincarnation, this also solves the problems some would face when trying to mathematically calculate how many souls are present now, and how that would be possible if we keep reincarnating from previous lives, from a time when there were a lot fewer people around than we have now - in other words, there would have to be new souls coming in for the expanding population, and this is what the purpose of the Higher Souls is - to spawn new Soul Fragments for the new people that are born and expanding the population of the Earth.

At a deeper level, this of course also mean that we ALL are the SAME and ONE, considering that after all we all have been spawned from Higher Souls back to the Origin, to the time when there were only One Source - God.
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Hi Solarson,

Are you Norwegian or did you just grow up in Norway?
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Hi Solarson, thank you so much for your knowledge, wisdom and help. It is very appreciated.

Solarson, I have a question regarding the music industry.

Have you heard of John Todd? here is a link [link to www.youtube.com]

Is this true? How is the music written, is it written by other entities? Do those who sell their souls for fame and fortune gain a temporary/full possession and the spirit then writes the music for them ?

What does selling your soul mean? Would be curious to know about this.
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The media in general, whether movies, music, television, news, internet etc, is run by those in power. This is true.

You could say that some "sell their souls", although probably not in the sense you imagine. The corporate world works on behalf of those powers, and persuade different individuals to work for them, more often than not by offering great amounts of money and "freedom".

What it "means" is simply that a person gives away his true and real freedom in change of a false and illusionary freedom.
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Hi Solarson,

Are you Norwegian or did you just grow up in Norway?
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Yes I am Norwegian.
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Hi Solarson, thank you so much for your knowledge, wisdom and help. It is very appreciated.

Solarson, I have a question regarding the music industry.

Have you heard of John Todd? here is a link [link to www.youtube.com]

Is this true? How is the music written, is it written by other entities? Do those who sell their souls for fame and fortune gain a temporary/full possession and the spirit then writes the music for them ?

What does selling your soul mean? Would be curious to know about this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482109


The media in general, whether movies, music, television, news, internet etc, is run by those in power. This is true.

You could say that some "sell their souls", although probably not in the sense you imagine. The corporate world works on behalf of those powers, and persuade different individuals to work for them, more often than not by offering great amounts of money and "freedom".

What it "means" is simply that a person gives away his true and real freedom in change of a false and illusionary freedom.
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Thanks for your answer Solarson hf
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Hello,
Thank you for taking so much of your time in this post. Having said that I will take your advice and use what works for me out of this information and discard the rest! I do have a number of questions though and I will try and cite the page number if you feel I have taken something out of context or missed something around the phrases.

1. "I can not tell you too much about myself, simply because it would easily identify me in the groups I belong." Page 1

and yet you show your picture???? I'd say that showing your picture is about the best way for someone to easily identify you in the groups you belong to.

2. "In that sense, in YOUR reality, you are the "cows", and the "farmer" is, well, call it the Great Architect of the Universe." PAGE 1

Is this an allusion to Free Masonry as they use the term Great Architect of the Universe?

3. "There is a war going on for your Soul, and your Mind. This war has already been close to won , and your souls and minds are in most cases hopefully lost." PAGE 1

Yet later on in this thread you tell us how more and more people in power are for us and the reptilians are losing their power. Are we lost or are we staging a comeback?

4. "And the truth is that reincarnation exists to KEEP you here, NOT to make you progress or develop in any way at all. It is part of the many chains that drags you back down life after life, it is between each incarnation you are abused mentally, mind controlled, having your memories erased and forced into an amnesia removing your knowledge of self and individuality." PAGE 1

This doesn't make sense to me, if between each incarnation they can abuse us and keep us down why not just feed off us there? If that doesn't work then why put is in bodies with brains that are capable of defeating/escaping them? Give us brains of lesser beings, cows are you say, to remove the possibility of us revolting at all. We wouldn't have the mental capacity to ever escape then.

5. "Back then, both those Good, the Human Race, and those Evil, for lack of good terms you can call them Reptilian since in effect, the ones called Reptilians on Earth now relate to these - they were both immortal in form, with eternal progress and development in state of individual awareness. No death, no birth, and no reincarnation... The Reptilians , coming over the Human race, were addicted. This may sound incredibly strange, but they did in fact get addicted on Human Souls - this because they consume the energy of the Souls." PAGE 4

If the humans were also immortal in form, no death etc then how did / do the reptilians consume their energy of their souls?

6. "What happened was the materialization and spawning of the physical. This was caused by the mixed spiritual energies of the two opposites, the Reptilian race and Human race." PAGE 4

How did this take place? Then did not the reptilians get trapped in this spawning of the physical also?

7. "They created a World that was beautiful enough, one that was attractive, peaceful and tempting. They created all the physical, and the systems on how the physical life played out, and laid it out in such a way that the Human Bodies they created could support the consciousness of the Human Souls and thus function as a vehicle for the Human consciousness to exist within." PAGE 4

You said in the 6th quote that the physical was caused by the mixed energies IE both humans and reptilians and then here state the reptilians created all the physical, how can this be? Can you explain in detail what /how the humans were tricked into coming into these bodies?

8. "There is much more to tell, about all the time that passed between "now", and "then" - the very beginnings of physical incarnation on Earth, and I will try detail that a bit more later." PAGE 4

Please elaborate more.

9. "Regarding the Jesus quote, yes, he did mean the way OUT of the whole illusion. He himself was a member of one of the same secret orders I am in myself and he was a good man that a lot can be said about, he did not die, he lived on for many years after the crucifixion. But I may try to get more onto that sometime later as thats a much more different topic than what I am trying to tell right now" PAGE 5

Please elaborate more

10. Freemasonry too is good at its core, and the majority of masons are good people - lots of them hang around in these very forums, not only me. The problem with masonry is as said, infiltrated, and honestly mainstream freemasonry is a mock-version of true freemasonry of ancient times. The real actual esoteric and spiritual practices are mostly stripped away though you find some scattered remains of them." PAGE 7

What does the true version of masonry look like? At what level(s) are people brought into the big secrets?

11. The "holograph" effect in things you speak of is real yes, all physical objects have a "historical signature" embedded to them, meaning that you can access knowledge on where the object is from, who has been in contact with it, how it got to wherever you got it from etc. This is true for anything though, not only physical objects, and when connecting to the "akashic records" mentioned earlier, you can collect such information...Will try to expand some on the answers to you later since you asked so much, and I can teach you how to actually do many of the things you ask, such as how to "read" imprints on objects to "scan" their history etc, or how to experience the alternate realities, even how to do time travel. This is all something anyone can do, just knowing the right techniques.PAGE 8

Please elaborate on how to obtain the historical signatures off objects. I know you shared a link for time traveling/alternate realities that I still need to look into. Are there an unlimited number of alternate realities or time lines? How long does it take to view a timeline? For example I would think you or anyone who knows how to do this could view an event on multiple time lines and come to a conclusion about an outcome. Example, the presidential election. If there are multiple time lines maybe Obama wins on 60% of them, Romney 39% and 1% to other (end of the world, disaster delaying the election etc). How does that work?
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I saw the door in my vision and as I reached for the door my entire perception of reality warbled and a voice, a VERY powerful voice which seemed to fill the entire world said...

"If you touch that door THIS Universe will end!"

MY perception of reality shook like lighting smashing into the side of the room I was in.

WTF?

That voice filled me with terror and I can say with all belief that I was SURE that if I opened the door this Universe, FOR ME, would have ceased.

WTF?

Explain that!
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over 50+ pages an yet still no response to you ! ?
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Wolf in sheep's clothing, OP is.

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There must be some truth in what you're saying, OP, as all these people are trying their best to shout you down. They don't want me to listen to you and make up my own mind. Thanks for ignoring them.
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Of course. Do not be surprised if this thread is suddenly gone, and my username banned. It has happened before.
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I always wonder why people do this. Boredom?
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Hello,
Thank you for taking so much of your time in this post. Having said that I will take your advice and use what works for me out of this information and discard the rest! I do have a number of questions though and I will try and cite the page number if you feel I have taken something out of context or missed something around the phrases.
 Quoting: ljd


You are welcome. I will do my best to answer you.

1. "I can not tell you too much about myself, simply because it would easily identify me in the groups I belong." Page 1

and yet you show your picture???? I'd say that showing your picture is about the best way for someone to easily identify you in the groups you belong to.
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Yes, I was already properly identified before I showed that picture, so it does no longer serve any purpose to "hide" in that sense. I am still in a secret location, not using any type of internet connection going back to "me".

2. "In that sense, in YOUR reality, you are the "cows", and the "farmer" is, well, call it the Great Architect of the Universe." PAGE 1

Is this an allusion to Free Masonry as they use the term Great Architect of the Universe?
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In a sense yes. The Great Architect is God, of course.


3. "There is a war going on for your Soul, and your Mind. This war has already been close to won , and your souls and minds are in most cases hopefully lost." PAGE 1

Yet later on in this thread you tell us how more and more people in power are for us and the reptilians are losing their power. Are we lost or are we staging a comeback?
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For the moment, you are still lost. "You" are not "us". "You" are not doing anything, "we" are behind the action.¨

You are only lost for as long as you decide to be.


4. "And the truth is that reincarnation exists to KEEP you here, NOT to make you progress or develop in any way at all. It is part of the many chains that drags you back down life after life, it is between each incarnation you are abused mentally, mind controlled, having your memories erased and forced into an amnesia removing your knowledge of self and individuality." PAGE 1

This doesn't make sense to me, if between each incarnation they can abuse us and keep us down why not just feed off us there? If that doesn't work then why put is in bodies with brains that are capable of defeating/escaping them? Give us brains of lesser beings, cows are you say, to remove the possibility of us revolting at all. We wouldn't have the mental capacity to ever escape then.
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And in effect, most of you do NOT have the capacity to escape. It is why you are still here, after so many lifetimes. They feed upon you on each PHYSICAL incarnation, not only your spiritual being. You also serve as a slave in physical incarnation, beside the consumption. As of now, they got you, and very few of you are able to even comprehend what you really are.


5. "Back then, both those Good, the Human Race, and those Evil, for lack of good terms you can call them Reptilian since in effect, the ones called Reptilians on Earth now relate to these - they were both immortal in form, with eternal progress and development in state of individual awareness. No death, no birth, and no reincarnation... The Reptilians , coming over the Human race, were addicted. This may sound incredibly strange, but they did in fact get addicted on Human Souls - this because they consume the energy of the Souls." PAGE 4

If the humans were also immortal in form, no death etc then how did / do the reptilians consume their energy of their souls?
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In a sense, it is very similar to breathing. You consume the air close to you. It is more or less the same thing, they consume the energy close to them (you, the souls, energy).

6. "What happened was the materialization and spawning of the physical. This was caused by the mixed spiritual energies of the two opposites, the Reptilian race and Human race." PAGE 4

How did this take place? Then did not the reptilians get trapped in this spawning of the physical also?
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Yes, some of them ARE trapped. Yet, there are rulers, or those in power, and control. Simply speaking , one race took power of all other races, by limiting them to the physical worlds.


7. "They created a World that was beautiful enough, one that was attractive, peaceful and tempting. They created all the physical, and the systems on how the physical life played out, and laid it out in such a way that the Human Bodies they created could support the consciousness of the Human Souls and thus function as a vehicle for the Human consciousness to exist within." PAGE 4

You said in the 6th quote that the physical was caused by the mixed energies IE both humans and reptilians and then here state the reptilians created all the physical, how can this be? Can you explain in detail what /how the humans were tricked into coming into these bodies?
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Humans were given the option to experience something new, physical form, limitation. They were told of its greatness, yet the truth is they forgot who they were, where they come from, and what they are, once trapped in physical and limited bodies.

8. "There is much more to tell, about all the time that passed between "now", and "then" - the very beginnings of physical incarnation on Earth, and I will try detail that a bit more later." PAGE 4

Please elaborate more.
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I will get more into this when I get the time. It is not a short topic to explain.


9. "Regarding the Jesus quote, yes, he did mean the way OUT of the whole illusion. He himself was a member of one of the same secret orders I am in myself and he was a good man that a lot can be said about, he did not die, he lived on for many years after the crucifixion. But I may try to get more onto that sometime later as thats a much more different topic than what I am trying to tell right now" PAGE 5

Please elaborate more
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Again, I will get more into this later, if I get the time.


10. Freemasonry too is good at its core, and the majority of masons are good people - lots of them hang around in these very forums, not only me. The problem with masonry is as said, infiltrated, and honestly mainstream freemasonry is a mock-version of true freemasonry of ancient times. The real actual esoteric and spiritual practices are mostly stripped away though you find some scattered remains of them." PAGE 7

What does the true version of masonry look like? At what level(s) are people brought into the big secrets?
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True masonry is simply the great work that is beneficial for everyone, it is the life of the one who devote himself to the others. The different levels are not important, they appear in natural places.

11. The "holograph" effect in things you speak of is real yes, all physical objects have a "historical signature" embedded to them, meaning that you can access knowledge on where the object is from, who has been in contact with it, how it got to wherever you got it from etc. This is true for anything though, not only physical objects, and when connecting to the "akashic records" mentioned earlier, you can collect such information...Will try to expand some on the answers to you later since you asked so much, and I can teach you how to actually do many of the things you ask, such as how to "read" imprints on objects to "scan" their history etc, or how to experience the alternate realities, even how to do time travel. This is all something anyone can do, just knowing the right techniques.PAGE 8

Please elaborate on how to obtain the historical signatures off objects. I know you shared a link for time traveling/alternate realities that I still need to look into. Are there an unlimited number of alternate realities or time lines? How long does it take to view a timeline? For example I would think you or anyone who knows how to do this could view an event on multiple time lines and come to a conclusion about an outcome. Example, the presidential election. If there are multiple time lines maybe Obama wins on 60% of them, Romney 39% and 1% to other (end of the world, disaster delaying the election etc). How does that work?
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Yes, you are correct, timelienes are "abused" in the sense that they are viewed in detail before planning an event. The most probable outcome is always chosen. YOU want to be that most probable outcome.

These other parallel worlds are unlimted indeed, anything you can imagine in your mind is taking place in "reality" somewhere else.

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I always wonder why people do this. Boredom?
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Hi SolarSon.

I've been reading through your thread and found the material on dreaming to be shockingly similar to experiences I've had recently.

Since you're an expert on the subject could you please give me your opinion on my experience? It's the first post of the following thread:

Thread: Incredible Lucid Dreams since 12/21/2012
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Thread: Plato's "Allegory of the Cave"- the modern day shadows on the cave wall are the images on your t.v. screen!

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Plato's "Allegory of the Cave" is a remarkable work of critical thinking. Absolutely amazing and astonishing to consider this work was created 2,400 years ago!

Here is a brief synopsis, via wikipaedia:


Inside the cave

In Plato's fictional dialogue, Socrates begins by describing a scenario in which what people take to be real would in fact be an illusion. He asks Glaucon to imagine a cave inhabited by prisoners who have been chained and held immobile since childhood: not only are their legs (but not arms) held in place, but their necks are also fixed, so they are compelled to gaze at a wall in front of them. Behind the prisoners is an enormous fire, and between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway, along which people walk carrying things on their heads "including figures of men and animals made of wood, stone and other materials". The prisoners cannot see the raised walkway or the people walking, but they watch the shadows cast by the men, not knowing they are shadows. There are also echoes off the wall from the noise produced from the walkway.
Socrates suggests the prisoners would take the shadows to be real things and the echoes to be real sounds created by the shadows, not just reflections of reality, since they are all they had ever seen or heard. They would praise as clever, whoever could best guess which shadow would come next, as someone who understood the nature of the world, and the whole of their society would depend on the shadows on the wall.



Release from the cave

"Suppose further," Socrates says, "that the man was compelled to look at the fire: wouldn't he be struck blind and try to turn his gaze back toward the shadows, as toward what he can see clearly and hold to be real? What if someone forcibly dragged such a man upward, out of the cave: wouldn't the man be angry at the one doing this to him? And if dragged all the way out into the sunlight, wouldn't he be distressed and unable to see "even one of the things now said to be true" because he was blinded by the light?
After some time on the surface, however, the freed prisoner would acclimate. He would see more and more things around him, until he could look upon the Sun. He would understand that the Sun is the "source of the seasons and the years, and is the steward of all things in the visible place, and is in a certain way the cause of all those things he and his companions had been seeing" (516b–c).



Return to the cave
Socrates next asks Glaucon to consider the condition of this man. "Wouldn't he remember his first home, what passed for wisdom there, and his fellow prisoners, and consider himself happy and them pitiable? And wouldn't he disdain whatever honors, praises, and prizes were awarded there to the ones who guessed best which shadows followed which? Moreover, were he to return there, wouldn't he be rather bad at their game, no longer being accustomed to the darkness? Wouldn't it be said of him that he went up and came back with his eyes corrupted, and that it's not even worth trying to go up? And if they were somehow able to get their hands on and kill the man who attempts to release and lead them up, wouldn't they kill him?" (517a) The prisoners, ignorant of the world behind them, would see the freed man with his corrupted eyes and be afraid of anything but what they already know. Philosophers analyzing the allegory argue that the prisoners would ironically find the freed man stupid due to the current state of his eyes and temporarily not being able to see the shadows which are the world to the prisoners.

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Modern day Americans have been tricked into watching the moving images on the television and computer screen, and taking that as "real." Reality t.v., social media, especially facebook and twitter have replaced meaningful social interaction, and people give value and meaning to shadows (images- shows, movies, social media websites) cast upon the cave wall (television and computer screens) instead of the actual living beings casting the shadows (fellow brothers and sisters, all children of the same Creator.)
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What's the purposes of animals if this is all true? What are they? Where do they come from?
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Hi SolarSon.

I've been reading through your thread and found the material on dreaming to be shockingly similar to experiences I've had recently.

Since you're an expert on the subject could you please give me your opinion on my experience? It's the first post of the following thread:

Thread: Incredible Lucid Dreams since 12/21/2012
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I can not interpret other peoples dreams and astral experiences. You must do that on your own, since it is your own subjective experience.
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What's the purposes of animals if this is all true? What are they? Where do they come from?
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Animals are part of the system of the physical world, simply servants that brings food to the table. That is the main function. Some people are animals, as far as reincarnation goes. They are lesser advanced and more subject to control than human beings. They are not advanced enough to be the "perfect slave".
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here's what will happen when some of us die.

We will meet some people after we have arrived to where ever it is we go to, and we may or may not recognise but we will simply be told "well your assignment is now over and your memory's will be restored for you"...

Like a baby under water automatically knows to hold its breath, its not a person, its a preprogrammed biocomputer, their are some people like a guy i can't mention on this site, and quite a few on here who have programs hard wired into their brains from birth.

You people think you're in control of your thoughts, they are not your thoughts you are having, they have been put their, you're a distraction for the rest of the sheep, you're keeping people from the truth.
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here's what will happen when some of us die.

We will meet some people after we have arrived to where ever it is we go to, and we may or may not recognise but we will simply be told "well your assignment is now over and your memory's will be restored for you"...

Like a baby under water automatically knows to hold its breath, its not a person, its a preprogrammed biocomputer, their are some people like a guy i can't mention on this site, and quite a few on here who have programs hard wired into their brains from birth.

You people think you're in control of your thoughts, they are not your thoughts you are having, they have been put their, you're a distraction for the rest of the sheep, you're keeping people from the truth.
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from the real truth, and i know that is going to cause some people to start nodding...
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Thanks for this thread, I've read all your posts and have a few questions:

1.) How do you make OBEs last longer? Mine typically last a few minutes at most, I want to have them last hours or days like Robert Monroe.

I've noticed that they can last a lot longer when I'm with a group of other nonphysical people and that sometimes standing in a circle, holding hands even, can help to stabilize things to make it last longer. Sort of like creating a flow of energy end up creating new energy which is used to lengthen the OBE.

However, this is useless to me because what is the point of sitting in a circle? I can do that physically. In an OBE I want to fly around by myself and this uses up my energy quickly. How do you get around that?


2.) I'm extremely interested in pulling information from my other simultaneous and future incarnations in OBEs. Many times when I first become lucid in a dream or first shift into an OBE I can tell I still have some residual awareness of what another incarnation was thinking or doing.

However I haven't really been able to get much of a consistent conversation going. The information comes in spurts and it's impossible to build a coherent picture of what's going on.

How do you set up a lasting information conduit between other incarnations?
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Thanks for this thread, I've read all your posts and have a few questions:

1.) How do you make OBEs last longer? Mine typically last a few minutes at most, I want to have them last hours or days like Robert Monroe.

I've noticed that they can last a lot longer when I'm with a group of other nonphysical people and that sometimes standing in a circle, holding hands even, can help to stabilize things to make it last longer. Sort of like creating a flow of energy end up creating new energy which is used to lengthen the OBE.

However, this is useless to me because what is the point of sitting in a circle? I can do that physically. In an OBE I want to fly around by myself and this uses up my energy quickly. How do you get around that?
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You make your astral experiences longer by practicing frequently. Practice every day, make it a normal part of your life, make astral projection as natural as eating and drinking. It is crucial.

Learn about and practice Lucid Dreams as well. It will increase your astral projection abilities and vice versa.
After some time, you will be able to spend "days" out. I have done this myself, the most I ever managed to be "out of body" was 3 days. Note however, that time is relative, and what may be 10 minutes "here" may be a day "there".


2.) I'm extremely interested in pulling information from my other simultaneous and future incarnations in OBEs. Many times when I first become lucid in a dream or first shift into an OBE I can tell I still have some residual awareness of what another incarnation was thinking or doing.

However I haven't really been able to get much of a consistent conversation going. The information comes in spurts and it's impossible to build a coherent picture of what's going on.

How do you set up a lasting information conduit between other incarnations?
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Again, continue practicing, and it will become natural. It must become a daily natural habit. Then you will gain more power and control every moment. You will become more lucid, and obtain more details and vivid experiences.
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