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You make your astral experiences longer by practicing frequently. Practice every day, make it a normal part of your life, make astral projection as natural as eating and drinking. It is crucial.

Learn about and practice Lucid Dreams as well. It will increase your astral projection abilities and vice versa.
After some time, you will be able to spend "days" out. I have done this myself, the most I ever managed to be "out of body" was 3 days. Note however, that time is relative, and what may be 10 minutes "here" may be a day "there".

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I have them all the time, dozens per week. Sometimes dozens in a day and have been doing them for many years. Just doing it a lot doesn't seem to make any difference as far a lengthening them goes.

What specifically does it take to set up a flow of energy to power an OBE?

I do know of at least two other specific tricks which help but I'm testing you to see if you really know what you're talking about and can give a better answer than just a hand-waving "practice makes perfect" type of answer.

Again, continue practicing, and it will become natural. It must become a daily natural habit. Then you will gain more power and control every moment. You will become more lucid, and obtain more details and vivid experiences.


Hmmm. Thanks for your help but I'm looking for specific techniques, not broad-sweeping generalized "keep your nose to the grindstone" advice which anyone could give.

If you really know anything about OBEs you'd know that progress is always about finding the trick that circumvents whatever the obstacle is and than brute force attacks are largely a waste of time.

It's like how having knowledge of how to build an internal combustion engine is much more powerful than having really strong leg muscles. The brute force attacks are inefficient.

For instance, one specific method I know of makes use of nonphysical mirrors. This is a *specfic* trick, not an airy-fairy "just keep practicing!!" kind of idea. I don't want to describe it because I don't want to front load your reply. I want to see if you really know how to do it.

So, what *****specifically***** do you do to contact other incarnations?
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Great thread, thank you. What are your thoughts on Ben Fulford .
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This is something ive been putting alot of thought into recently. Im not connected as you are but have been looking into many aspects you have pointed out so far for a few years now. Mostly realization through my own interactions and experiences only to find myself looking into the different areas you previously pointed others towards.. without being taught or initiated into different levels of those societies, are there any ways one could dive deeper into those parallel lives, not for personal gain but better understanding of odd coincidences that seem neverending??

On the other side of things.. is the chess match between who you referred to as we and them almost over?
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Sure you can. In fact, there is a brilliant guy called Burt Goldman who have created an excellent course in "quantum jumping" as he calls it, for the public. This actually teaches you how to visit those other alternate worlds as you wish, and to go to see yourself in any situation you want, and bring that knowledge and energy back here. Google it, type in: Burt Goldman quantum jumping

It truly is the best material I have found on this topic available for the general public, and I recommend everyone to check it out. This knowledge and understanding is VERY powerful, you will become the true boss of your own life, and the director of your own "movie".

For the last question, the chess match is not decided, but for the moment the force you most likely would call "good" is in the lead.

Things are looking good for now, with some bumps in the road towards the goal.
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Really? Can you tell us anything more about the. Quantum jumping course? It looked a little hokey and wasn't sure it could be trusted. But I've been circling the idea of getting the program for awhile.

Maybe what your experiences were too?

Thanks
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You make your astral experiences longer by practicing frequently. Practice every day, make it a normal part of your life, make astral projection as natural as eating and drinking. It is crucial.

Learn about and practice Lucid Dreams as well. It will increase your astral projection abilities and vice versa.
After some time, you will be able to spend "days" out. I have done this myself, the most I ever managed to be "out of body" was 3 days. Note however, that time is relative, and what may be 10 minutes "here" may be a day "there".

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I have them all the time, dozens per week. Sometimes dozens in a day and have been doing them for many years. Just doing it a lot doesn't seem to make any difference as far a lengthening them goes.

What specifically does it take to set up a flow of energy to power an OBE?

I do know of at least two other specific tricks which help but I'm testing you to see if you really know what you're talking about and can give a better answer than just a hand-waving "practice makes perfect" type of answer.

Again, continue practicing, and it will become natural. It must become a daily natural habit. Then you will gain more power and control every moment. You will become more lucid, and obtain more details and vivid experiences.
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Hmmm. Thanks for your help but I'm looking for specific techniques, not broad-sweeping generalized "keep your nose to the grindstone" advice which anyone could give.

If you really know anything about OBEs you'd know that progress is always about finding the trick that circumvents whatever the obstacle is and than brute force attacks are largely a waste of time.

It's like how having knowledge of how to build an internal combustion engine is much more powerful than having really strong leg muscles. The brute force attacks are inefficient.

For instance, one specific method I know of makes use of nonphysical mirrors. This is a *specfic* trick, not an airy-fairy "just keep practicing!!" kind of idea. I don't want to describe it because I don't want to front load your reply. I want to see if you really know how to do it.

So, what *****specifically***** do you do to contact other incarnations?


AC....please please please share your knowledge. I've been looking for "tricks" and techniques for years. And all I've found we're people saying exactly what you referred to "practice makes perfect". But I know there are people who know more - way more than the books out there. And I've read tons of books, listened to "masters" and practiced techniques for years....
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AC....please please please share your knowledge. I've been looking for "tricks" and techniques for years. And all I've found we're people saying exactly what you referred to "practice makes perfect". But I know there are people who know more - way more than the books out there. And I've read tons of books, listened to "masters" and practiced techniques for years....
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See Lucidology 101 on youtube
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AC....please please please share your knowledge. I've been looking for "tricks" and techniques for years. And all I've found we're people saying exactly what you referred to "practice makes perfect". But I know there are people who know more - way more than the books out there. And I've read tons of books, listened to "masters" and practiced techniques for years....
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See Lucidology 101 on youtube
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Thank you! I've heard of it.

Great synchronicities today.

How long did it take to get successful at it?

hf
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AC....please please please share your knowledge. I've been looking for "tricks" and techniques for years. And all I've found we're people saying exactly what you referred to "practice makes perfect". But I know there are people who know more - way more than the books out there. And I've read tons of books, listened to "masters" and practiced techniques for years....
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See Lucidology 101 on youtube
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Thank you! I've heard of it.

Great synchronicities today.

How long did it take to get successful at it?

hf
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> How long did it take to get successful at it?

The clock for this measurement really doesn't start until you start using a technique that actually works.

For the 1st few months I was at it, I wasn't using methods that worked. When I started using the timer method I had immediate results, as in being able to have several OBEs in one session.
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Excellent Gnostic thread. However, OP, your suggestion of you being born into an "Order" and suggesting people find "orders" to become involved with is very misguided. Other people, organizations, orders, etc, will never bring you closer to the truth. Thats where you encounter false guru's and cults of personality.There is only one way, and that is to go within. Any other way is a false path. You have to do the work yourself.

SolarSonMail's comments on more on target. Especially his comments on dreaming are correct and true.
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What do you think of the new interest in Advaita/non-dualism? Earlier someone mentioned Nisargadatta. Other modern proponents are Sailor Bob, John Wheeler, Eckhart Tolle, etc. They simply say to inquire into your "I am" until it becomes obvious we're all One. And, that's all that's needed. That seems to completely bypass all the hierarchy.
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What these people preaches, although I am not particularly familiar with anyone of them, is fairly useless. It just maintains the statues quoe, with you in a new perception of reality around you. Practically it does not alter or improve anything, it just gives you the illusion of so.

That is also why they are able to get their material out to the masses, and become famous and well-known around the world without any problems.

None of them touches upon any of the real secrets, any of the dark truths of existence, our world, what we can do and how we can progress.

Another good example are people in the conspiracy field, such as David Iicke. Although he speaks a lot of truth, and really DOES understand a great deal of the picture, he does not offer anything practical on what to do with that information. People just swallow the information down, and live on, thinking they are above the rest of the population for knowing "the truth". They remain the slaves, while the powers that are remains in power, and none are really the wiser.
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Hello OP,

I'm going back to read earlier pages and here you mentioned David dIcke. According to him English Royal Family are reptilians, so I never took this man seriously. What is the truth?

David was interviewed by Jessie Ventura who made fun of him and discredited David when it comes to this subject. What is your opinion of Mr. Ventura?

Thank you!
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I saw the door in my vision and as I reached for the door my entire perception of reality warbled and a voice, a VERY powerful voice which seemed to fill the entire world said...

"If you touch that door THIS Universe will end!"

MY perception of reality shook like lighting smashing into the side of the room I was in.

WTF?

That voice filled me with terror and I can say with all belief that I was SURE that if I opened the door this Universe, FOR ME, would have ceased.

WTF?

Explain that!
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I have a secret I want to share with you!bsmeter
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That is a good secret to tale and I second that secret because I know better.
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Alien or human technology?

Sitting at my pc and heard 'come outside now' telepathically and ran out
into my garden. Large white, black and pink plasma energy shape was
hovering above my house. Time and space were out of sync and stood
on the spot looking at it in amazement for 2 minutes. Sent it love vibes
and asked it to unmask itself, then surprised when a massive black hang
glider shaped craft appeared and left the Earth in a second. Obviously
cloaking technology was used.
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Hi Solar Son,

I have spent the past several days reading this thread. At first it didn't resonate ... I try to use discernment ... but very quickly, I realized you're one of the "good guys".

Two things come to mind after reading everything you've written. First, I worry about you and others trying to help people, i.e., that you're somehow being fooled or tricked into thinking you're defeating the others and that things will be better. If you are somehow winning the battle, then I'm also concerned for your safety.

Second, do SSRI's (antidepressants) permanently damage the pineal? If so, how much can I really get practicing meditation, astral travel & OBO's if I'm hopelessly addicted to Prozac for 25 years? I was put on this despicable drug after a particularly difficult break up when I was young and have been unable to successfully withdraw permanently without debilitating side effects. Several doctors have just told me to "stay on it" since I don't have any problems except when I try to wean myself.

Can I still "know my real self" and achieve necessary states of spirituality or am I ultimately stuck now?

Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated.

Much love, peace and safety to you.

Thanks.u2efinehf
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Hi Solar Son,

I have spent the past several days reading this thread. At first it didn't resonate ... I try to use discernment ... but very quickly, I realized you're one of the "good guys".

Two things come to mind after reading everything you've written. First, I worry about you and others trying to help people, i.e., that you're somehow being fooled or tricked into thinking you're defeating the others and that things will be better. If you are somehow winning the battle, then I'm also concerned for your safety.

Second, do SSRI's (antidepressants) permanently damage the pineal? If so, how much can I really get practicing meditation, astral travel & OBO's if I'm hopelessly addicted to Prozac for 25 years? I was put on this despicable drug after a particularly difficult break up when I was young and have been unable to successfully withdraw permanently without debilitating side effects. Several doctors have just told me to "stay on it" since I don't have any problems except when I try to wean myself.

Can I still "know my real self" and achieve necessary states of spirituality or am I ultimately stuck now?

Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated.

Much love, peace and safety to you.

Thanks.u2efinehf
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^ ^ By the way, I have had no luck with trying meditation or any other spiritual practices, and I'm wondering if this is because of the long-term use of Prozac. Is there anything that can help my concentration?

Thanks again for any help.
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11. The "holograph" effect in things you speak of is real yes, all physical objects have a "historical signature" embedded to them, meaning that you can access knowledge on where the object is from, who has been in contact with it, how it got to wherever you got it from etc. This is true for anything though, not only physical objects, and when connecting to the "akashic records" mentioned earlier, you can collect such information...Will try to expand some on the answers to you later since you asked so much, and I can teach you how to actually do many of the things you ask, such as how to "read" imprints on objects to "scan" their history etc, or how to experience the alternate realities, even how to do time travel. This is all something anyone can do, just knowing the right techniques.PAGE 8

Please elaborate on how to obtain the historical signatures off objects. I know you shared a link for time traveling/alternate realities that I still need to look into. Are there an unlimited number of alternate realities or time lines? How long does it take to view a timeline? For example I would think you or anyone who knows how to do this could view an event on multiple time lines and come to a conclusion about an outcome. Example, the presidential election. If there are multiple time lines maybe Obama wins on 60% of them, Romney 39% and 1% to other (end of the world, disaster delaying the election etc). How does that work?
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Or, let's examine the idea of making enormous amounts of money using this technique. Example. I have in my hand a Mega Millions lottery ticket. In this Universe every infinite possibility is played out. Therefore, there are infinite signatures on this ticket belonging to the reality wherein the numbers on the ticket match the numbers drawn.
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Whae all One. And, that's all that's needed. That seems to completely bypass all the hierarchy.
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What these people preaches, although I am not particularly and live on, thinking they are above the rest of the population for knowing "the truth". They remain the slaves, while the powers that are remains in power, and none are really the wiser.
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Hello OP,

I'm going back to read earlier pages and here you mentioned David dIcke. According to him English Royal Family are reptilians, so I never took this man seriously. What is the truth?

David was interviewed by Jessie Ventura who made fun of him and discredited David when it comes to this subject. What is your opinion of Mr. Ventura?

Thank you!
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That reptilian thing was something Icke heard from others who are have paranormal sight. It's not a physical thing, but an indication of the the soul of the person.

The Atlantean wisdom speaks of an ancient race of reptilians who were purely materialistic with no spiritual aptitude or altruism... not a generous bone in their body.

As Earth evolved/devolved over time, the souls of these reptilians entered into the predominant ape-engineered human. Dr. Malichai Martin called them "perfectly possessed." I call them "bankers" lol.

Anyway, Icke exercised poor judgment in running with that particular facet of metaphysics because you can't walk up to your typical soulless douchebag and get him to look like a reptile for the camera...

But, they are out there and make no mistake: They have taken over Earth and all of creation because they will give no quarter.

The Atlanteans went to GREAT lengths to exterminate them but failed.
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Hi Solar Son,

I have spent the past several days reading this thread. At
Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated.

Much love, peace and safety to you.

Thanks.u2efinehf
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^ ^ By the way, I have had no luck with trying meditation or any other spiritual practices, and I'm wondering if this is because of the long-term use of Prozac. Is there anything that can help my concentration?

Thanks again for any help.
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Please allow me to help you. I am fighting on the side of SolarSon, but I am in exile myself. Off the radar is the only way to fight right now.

You need to do a detox of your entire being. This means some sort of retreat of 30 days where you are surrounded by nurturing hippie types and eat only organic foods, meditate, get massages, etc.

You need a 100% cold turkey disconnect from your current life and your attachments to it.

If you start asking around, you can find something like this. I have no suggestions - you need to find it yourself, because THAT is step one.

Before you actually go to the retreat, step two is to see a naturopathic doctor who does acupuncture to get you detoxed and balanced.

Step three is to find some activity, weight lifting, drumming, yoga, hiking - WHATEVER - that can replace your addiction. Just THROW yourself into it like it's your job.

Your brain chemistry is currently poisoned and the withdrawals could be catastrophic if you don't take these steps.

Don't listen to any of the alopathic (Western murderers) "doctors" you've been going to. Their job is to make you a slave.

good luck!
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Hi Solar Son,

I have spent the past several days reading this thread. At
Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated.

Much love, peace and safety to you.

Thanks.u2efinehf
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^ ^ By the way, I have had no luck with trying meditation or any other spiritual practices, and I'm wondering if this is because of the long-term use of Prozac. Is there anything that can help my concentration?

Thanks again for any help.
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Please allow me to help you. I am fighting on the side of SolarSon, but I am in exile myself. Off the radar is the only way to fight right now.

You need to do a detox of your entire being. This means some sort of retreat of 30 days where you are surrounded by nurturing hippie types and eat only organic foods, meditate, get massages, etc.

You need a 100% cold turkey disconnect from your current life and your attachments to it.

If you start asking around, you can find something like this. I have no suggestions - you need to find it yourself, because THAT is step one.

Before you actually go to the retreat, step two is to see a naturopathic doctor who does acupuncture to get you detoxed and balanced.

Step three is to find some activity, weight lifting, drumming, yoga, hiking - WHATEVER - that can replace your addiction. Just THROW yourself into it like it's your job.

Your brain chemistry is currently poisoned and the withdrawals could be catastrophic if you don't take these steps.

Don't listen to any of the alopathic (Western murderers) "doctors" you've been going to. Their job is to make you a slave.

good luck!
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Thank you, AC, for your wonderful suggestions.

Unfortunately, I can't really 100% disconnect from my life for 30 days (or even a week). I have a husband, a job and a young child who needs me.

I do realize my brain has been somewhat damaged by Prozac after all these years. That's why I asked OP if his recommendations of regular practicing of OBE's, meditations & astral projections are still possible for me (and if so, how?)

If not able to focus my possibly damaged third eye because of this, am I just going to be left behind?
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SolarSon,

What is your take on the book 'The Armageddon Conspiracy'?

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Hey SolarSon,
I read everything so far and I really like what you propose here, even though I dont believe in anything specific you mentioned ;)
I am pretty young and only recently started my journey for truth (Beginning 2013)
I talked a lot with a friend(A) about conscience and other stuff and two days later I had an awakening experience while high. ( A feeling that everything is connected and every question I asked my self, the world answered in different forms (music i heard, advertisement i saw and anything else I perceived)
Since then I read a lot about various topics trying to make up my mind.
I experienced some kind of law of attraction, several other friends showed signs of expanded knowledge and their search for truth.
Friend A does no drugs and searches within science and math about his own conscience and the world. I talked with him about the experience he provoked in me and I vividly remember something he said to me which weirds me out even now "i told you what you had to know". He hates freemasonry and seems knowledgeable in similar topics.
I have another friend, he likes weed and shrooms. I dont know his specific believes but I think he follows the philosophy that we are all the same, the universe experiencing itself. Ego death supposedly shows you this.
Friend 3 shows no signs of ego exploring etc. but is deep in his conspiracy theories, NWO etc. His point being that we are controlled, brain washed by the media.
I myself was always open minded with a muslim father and christian mother.
I practice lucid dreams since my teenage years, it is just so ever fascinating for me.

I am just suddenly aware of all the people in the world like my friends locally or worldwide on the internet that are seeking for some kind of meaning and truth in the world which lead me to the philosophy you preach here:

That true progress and truth should be found within yourself and your mind and not within teachings of others, no matter how their truth resonates within me.

Questions:
Regarding Friend A, do you think there is higher truth and knowledge within math? Would it be possible to break free by studying the very nature and existence of the prison we are supposed to be in?

Do you also think that more people than ever question their reality and what is taught and that the internet is one of the reasons mankind is propelled in this direction?

I dont really want to get to know any secret organizations, they seem to me like just another religion trap for more open minded people. But would you recommend groups that exist in Germany that could be beneficial?

How do you explain ego death with shrooms and especially a breakthrough DMT experiences with the spiritual beings we actually are as you say.

A question without actual context and maybe no answer:
Do you know of the Saadi dynasty that ruled Morocco from 1554 to 1659?
Do you have interesting information wether they had important members or connections to secret orders?

Thanks for your time and excuse wrong phrases, english isn't my first language either.
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What do you think of the new interest in Advaita/non-dualism? Earlier someone mentioned Nisargadatta. Other modern proponents are Sailor Bob, John Wheeler, Eckhart Tolle, etc. They simply say to inquire into your "I am" until it becomes obvious we're all One. And, that's all that's needed. That seems to completely bypass all the hierarchy.
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What these people preaches, although I am not particularly familiar with anyone of them, is fairly useless. It just maintains the statues quoe, with you in a new perception of reality around you. Practically it does not alter or improve anything, it just gives you the illusion of so.

That is also why they are able to get their material out to the masses, and become famous and well-known around the world without any problems.

None of them touches upon any of the real secrets, any of the dark truths of existence, our world, what we can do and how we can progress.

Another good example are people in the conspiracy field, such as David Iicke. Although he speaks a lot of truth, and really DOES understand a great deal of the picture, he does not offer anything practical on what to do with that information. People just swallow the information down, and live on, thinking they are above the rest of the population for knowing "the truth". They remain the slaves, while the powers that are remains in power, and none are really the wiser.
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Hello OP,

I'm going back to read earlier pages and here you mentioned David dIcke. According to him English Royal Family are reptilians, so I never took this man seriously. What is the truth?

David was interviewed by Jessie Ventura who made fun of him and discredited David when it comes to this subject. What is your opinion of Mr. Ventura?

Thank you!
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I also need opinion on John Lear, please. Thanks!
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OP, are you 28th Degree Knight?
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very nice topic , thanx ....

can you tell us something about wicca?....
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Listen not unto the Op of this thread for he is as a blind man leading the blind up a mountain path. They whom follow him shall surely fall with him. The Op future is one of shock and misery unexpected to him since he felt he knew and was enlightened but finds out he knew nothing but another set of lies. Does a garden benefit from the spreading of locusts, listen not unto the locusts of the world which eat away the fields.
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Listen not unto the Op of this thread for he is as a blind man leading the blind up a mountain path. They whom follow him shall surely fall with him. The Op future is one of shock and misery unexpected to him since he felt he knew and was enlightened but finds out he knew nothing but another set of lies. Does a garden benefit from the spreading of locusts, listen not unto the locusts of the world which eat away the fields.
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The 1600's are over, pal. Talking like you're King James makes you look like a chode.
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Hi Solar Son,

I have spent the past several days reading this thread. At
Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated.

Much love, peace and safety to you.

Thanks.u2efinehf
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^ ^ By the way, I have had no luck with trying meditation or any other spiritual practices, and I'm wondering if this is because of the long-term use of Prozac. Is there anything that can help my concentration?

Thanks again for any help.
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Please allow me to help you. I am fighting on the side of SolarSon, but I am in exile myself. Off the radar is the only way to fight right now.

You need to do a detox of your entire being. This means some sort of retreat of 30 days where you are surrounded by nurturing hippie types and eat only organic foods, meditate, get massages, etc.

You need a 100% cold turkey disconnect from your current life and your attachments to it.

If you start asking around, you can find something like this. I have no suggestions - you need to find it yourself, because THAT is step one.

Before you actually go to the retreat, step two is to see a naturopathic doctor who does acupuncture to get you detoxed and balanced.

Step three is to find some activity, weight lifting, drumming, yoga, hiking - WHATEVER - that can replace your addiction. Just THROW yourself into it like it's your job.

Your brain chemistry is currently poisoned and the withdrawals could be catastrophic if you don't take these steps.

Don't listen to any of the alopathic (Western murderers) "doctors" you've been going to. Their job is to make you a slave.

good luck!
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Thank you, AC, for your wonderful suggestions.

Unfortunately, I can't really 100% disconnect from my life for 30 days (or even a week). I have a husband, a job and a young child who needs me.

I do realize my brain has been somewhat damaged by Prozac after all these years. That's why I asked OP if his recommendations of regular practicing of OBE's, meditations & astral projections are still possible for me (and if so, how?)

If not able to focus my possibly damaged third eye because of this, am I just going to be left behind?
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AC 709,

Start small.

"Start where you are"

Firstly, It sounds like you have a longing for spirituality. Count yourself fortunate, you're already ahead of most people in that first step!

Secondly, don't beat yourself up over things you can't change right now. If you wait to change those things before starting your journey, you'll never get to your 'destination'.

Thirdly, I liked that you mentioned meditation, astral projection, etc. Just know that people who aren't on meds also have trouble astral projecting, meditation and third eye work!

The nice thing with meditation, is that its the simplest of all of those. Start small. Try setting a timer for 5 minutes. Give yourself the gift of stillness. The mind wil chatter. That's normal. Even seasoned meditators will tell you this. It's just the mind "doing its job". Don't control anything. Just sit and "be" for a few minutes every day. Some people like to focus on their breathing- feeling the breath from the nose, thru the belly, out the nose. Some people like to just sit and LISTEN to thei inner world. Some people like to focus on their third eye. Play around with different echinacea and find YOUR way. There are lots of great resources on meditation online. But the best advice is - just do it! Wen you feel comfortable with the five minutes - maybe after a few days or a few weeks, move on to ten minutes.

Good luck. It's crazy busy with a young child. But please don't ignore YOU.
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Ss, what about when you trust none of it? I don't trust the body, the planet, the suns, the light, the chakras, the pineal, meditation...

To make matters worse, I feel stuck, to make myself feel better by choosing a rigged choice, which club shall I join?

It's a numb feeling, a dazzling astral realm would seem to be full of the same problems after a while...

So are we destined to be workhorses of varying degrees of comfort, to serve those higher aspects endlessly?

What is the goal? When do things feel right again? This funhouse feels endlessly tiresome.

Is the best we can do, to be bodhisattva workhorses? Until 2.0 is ready to start again with a fresh coat of propaganda? Maybe the next cycle will feel better, but will it be truly any different?

Ty
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Hi again, Solar Son!

I took part in this thread when it was young, but lost track of it long ago, my last post was on page 12 I think.

Since then, I have been making some progress. Firstly, I have learned how to induce Lucid dreaming since I found this site:

[link to www.dreamviews.com]

There is a particular simple method they call 'SSILD' that has worked wonders for me, with almost embarrassingly little effort on my behalf. They recommend waking up in the middle of the night to do the exercise, then go back to sleep, and say it won't work if you do it before going to bed. I don't obey the advise, and it works for me anyway.

I still have a long way to go to master Lucid dreaming, but I am at least motivated to keep at it. I consider the power to stay Lucid in dreams essential, since if you can't even keep your consciousness intact during sleep, what hope could you have to not be unconsciously recycled in death?

I take it as a matter of personal 'pride'. My consciousness is mine, and I'm not going to allow it to slip away into oblivion from sheer laziness any more! It's pathetic!

Anyway, my longest and most intense Lucid dream so far was an epic struggle with some kind of 'gatekeeper' who was trying to scare me off by trying to trick me into manifesting all kinds of nightmarish scenarios.

I was sent back to the Dinosaur age to be eaten alive, but I transferred out. Now a car was slamming into me at full speed, but I raised my hand and split the metal open. Now impenetrable walls were closing in on me, but I took a deep breath and willed myself to a nice beach.

This struggle went on and on, and I woke up exhausted and exhilarated at the same time. Afterwards, I realized the 'gatekeeper' is an aspect of myself; it is an emotional aspect that is used to owning the dream state for itself, and which does not appreciate my more rational aspect blundering in on its domains, attempting to take charge.

I'm working on making peace with that aspect.

Other things that have happened include dreaming about uniting with a 'soul mate' into a single being, and seeing hundreds of other incarnations as statues hanging on a wall in 'my house'.

And I had a Kundalini rising experience, where I was completely immobilized, and energy flowed up my spine. Previously, I have experienced a tingling movement, but this time it all burst through, and flooded out of the top of my head.

But in between these breakthroughs, I get extended periods of nothing at all happening. The progress is sporadic, and so is my putting out any significant effort. It's an inner struggle, where a part of me wants to pursue this path, and another part can't be bothered.

I don't really know why I post this, perhaps I just wanted to put my current state in virtual ink so I can see it more clearly for myself.

There is ONE big question I have for you though:

Why all the secrecy? Why all the rites and secret handshakes? Why the muddled talk? Why the riddles?

This aspect of your story makes no sense to me, even though I do get most of the message otherwise.

I know I typed several question marks, but there is really just one question! ;-)
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bump

Great thread! Sent you an email, SolarSon.
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Hi OP,

I have read most of your thread and so far nothing you have written has not already been said. I like your style and you use great examples to explain things, but it has all been said.

For some here maybe what you are saying is new or the way you write helps them now resonate with what was said before but for whatever reason could not understand then.

Can you tell us something truely original, something that we would not have heard or known. Something so simple that if we grasp it in an instant all will change. Because truth is so simple. It does not need long explanations, and it is so powerful that in an instant you are changed forever.

Thank you. Much love

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