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They chemtrailed the crap outta LA today | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3843921  United States10/04/2012 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24960504 United States10/04/2012 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1148772 United States10/04/2012 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No but i can offer my sympathy to you and tell you the same thing happened here. It was overcast and a faint rain for most of the day then around 3-4 ish it cleared up only to reveal dozens of low lying chem sprays overhead. To make it worse it warmed up quickly then an hour or so later it not only cooled and clouded back over, now there's a thick low level fog that's blanketed this whole fricken area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 Anyone else in southern Ontario see what I just described?? I was very reluctant to go running just before dark but I did anyways, this crap is what needs to be brought up in these stupid debates!! Stop spraying, kill GMO foods, cancel all water fluoridation immediately, etc etc. Arrrrrrrrg. So frustrating some days, sorry had to vent a little. Have you bothered to notice how INTENSELY WHITE the sun is when there isn't smog/fog/overcast. In my area it is SO intense that it is actually blinding. It has caused me to actually rethink the possible motives behind the spraying. |
Noble  User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The air doesn't need to be super saturated for contrail formation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3843921 Contrails have a critical temperature for formation...based on pressure level (altitude) and relative humidity...also the type of engine has an influence on contrail formation. Yes, the air has to have enough moisture so the ADDED moisture from the engine brings it past saturation. The air must be supersaturated by the engine for the trail to persist. And yes, the more efficient the engine, the more water vapor created. Favorite Karma: 12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?" No, I can't. Because that would be a lie. Can you admit that you are a gullible loser? |
| Noble User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | geo engineering is admitted and is funded; this came out from congressional reports Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24960504 Yet, there is NOTHING in the reports to link the trails in the sky TO the "geoengineering"...is there!?! Oh wait...yes there is.. Ignorant and paranoid chemtard assumption! How do you people know that "geoengineering" would result in ANY visible trail whatsoever?! Howe do you know the planes NOT leaving trails aren't "geoengineering" with clear/hard to see "chemicals"?! Favorite Karma: 12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?" No, I can't. Because that would be a lie. Can you admit that you are a gullible loser? |
| Noble User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No but i can offer my sympathy to you and tell you the same thing happened here. It was overcast and a faint rain for most of the day then around 3-4 ish it cleared up only to reveal dozens of low lying chem sprays overhead. To make it worse it warmed up quickly then an hour or so later it not only cooled and clouded back over, now there's a thick low level fog that's blanketed this whole fricken area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 Anyone else in southern Ontario see what I just described?? I was very reluctant to go running just before dark but I did anyways, this crap is what needs to be brought up in these stupid debates!! Stop spraying, kill GMO foods, cancel all water fluoridation immediately, etc etc. Arrrrrrrrg. So frustrating some days, sorry had to vent a little. Have you bothered to notice how INTENSELY WHITE the sun is when there isn't smog/fog/overcast. In my area it is SO intense that it is actually blinding. It has caused me to actually rethink the possible motives behind the spraying. Doesn't look any different to me for the last 47 years... Favorite Karma: 12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?" No, I can't. Because that would be a lie. Can you admit that you are a gullible loser? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1526616 United States10/04/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3843921 United States10/04/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The air doesn't need to be super saturated for contrail formation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3843921 Contrails have a critical temperature for formation...based on pressure level (altitude) and relative humidity...also the type of engine has an influence on contrail formation. Yes, the air has to have enough moisture so the ADDED moisture from the engine brings it past saturation. The air must be supersaturated by the engine for the trail to persist. And yes, the more efficient the engine, the more water vapor created. Yes, I know that. But even if the parcel of air behind the engine is saturated with respect to water, the ambient air has to be saturated with respect for ice, so that the contrail persists as it returns to ambient conditions. Super saturation isn't the reason. |
| sinco User ID: 18834981 United States10/04/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Weird, Portland Oregon is BLUE BLUE BLUE sky with not a contrail or cloud up there.. This is odd as theres plenty of planes flying around, just beautiful blue sky, odd that i also feel more energized today.... SHits making me wonder YO!! Last Edited by Kealo on 10/04/2012 03:15 PM |
| MissMe7 User ID: 17344906 United States10/04/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The air doesn't need to be super saturated for contrail formation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3843921 Contrails have a critical temperature for formation...based on pressure level (altitude) and relative humidity...also the type of engine has an influence on contrail formation. Yes, the air has to have enough moisture so the ADDED moisture from the engine brings it past saturation. The air must be supersaturated by the engine for the trail to persist. And yes, the more efficient the engine, the more water vapor created. Yes, I know that. But even if the parcel of air behind the engine is saturated with respect to water, the ambient air has to be saturated with respect for ice, so that the contrail persists as it returns to ambient conditions. Super saturation isn't the reason. Uh huh.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The air doesn't need to be super saturated for contrail formation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3843921 Contrails have a critical temperature for formation...based on pressure level (altitude) and relative humidity...also the type of engine has an influence on contrail formation. Yes, the air has to have enough moisture so the ADDED moisture from the engine brings it past saturation. The air must be supersaturated by the engine for the trail to persist. And yes, the more efficient the engine, the more water vapor created. Yes, I know that. But even if the parcel of air behind the engine is saturated with respect to water, the ambient air has to be saturated with respect for ice, so that the contrail persists as it returns to ambient conditions. Super saturation isn't the reason. And what do you think the air is saturated with when the temperature is -40? Liquid water?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| RETRO-RY User ID: 1579224 United States10/04/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I drove from San Diego to Burbank yesterday. Crazy criss-cross patterns all over the sky. It was so noticeable that it couldn't have been an accident IMHO. The other thing I noticed was all incoming planes seemed to "turn on the spray" as they approached the LA area. You could physically see when it began shooting out. Also, you could see them falling. They would start as very thin lines in the sky and get bigger and bigger as they came down. The other noteworthy point is how they seemed to hold there shape all the way down...Seemed unaffected by winds/breezes. Very noticeable grid type pattern all over the sky. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I drove from San Diego to Burbank yesterday. Crazy criss-cross patterns all over the sky. It was so noticeable that it couldn't have been an accident IMHO. The other thing I noticed was all incoming planes seemed to "turn on the spray" as they approached the LA area. You could physically see when it began shooting out. Also, you could see them falling. They would start as very thin lines in the sky and get bigger and bigger as they came down. The other noteworthy point is how they seemed to hold there shape all the way down...Seemed unaffected by winds/breezes. Quoting: RETRO-RY Very noticeable grid type pattern all over the sky. And the ONLY explanation is..."chemtrails"... Sure... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3843921 United States10/04/2012 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not what I am talking about. I'll try to explain a little better... Think of a parcel of air as a really big balloon, like the size of your car. This parcel of air is generated by the exhaust, in the wake of the engine. It has it's own temperature and humidity. Ambient temp is self explanatory,it is the temp and humidity of the air surrounding this parcel. Contrails occur when that parcel of air becomes saturated to the respect for water. That's why race cars can even generate contrails in the low pressure wake of the car's wings. If the ambient air surrounding this parcel is not saturated with respect for ice, the contrail particles will go through sublimation (opposite of deposition, return to ambient conditions, and disappear. The contrail will persist if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice...since it will be maintained as the parcel returns to the ambient conditions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Jonny Smoke User ID: 359974 United States10/04/2012 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No but i can offer my sympathy to you and tell you the same thing happened here. It was overcast and a faint rain for most of the day then around 3-4 ish it cleared up only to reveal dozens of low lying chem sprays overhead. To make it worse it warmed up quickly then an hour or so later it not only cooled and clouded back over, now there's a thick low level fog that's blanketed this whole fricken area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 Anyone else in southern Ontario see what I just described?? I was very reluctant to go running just before dark but I did anyways, this crap is what needs to be brought up in these stupid debates!! Stop spraying, kill GMO foods, cancel all water fluoridation immediately, etc etc. Arrrrrrrrg. So frustrating some days, sorry had to vent a little. Have you bothered to notice how INTENSELY WHITE the sun is when there isn't smog/fog/overcast. In my area it is SO intense that it is actually blinding. It has caused me to actually rethink the possible motives behind the spraying. Doesn't look any different to me for the last 47 years... That's because you can't see the sky when your head is lodged up your ass! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No but i can offer my sympathy to you and tell you the same thing happened here. It was overcast and a faint rain for most of the day then around 3-4 ish it cleared up only to reveal dozens of low lying chem sprays overhead. To make it worse it warmed up quickly then an hour or so later it not only cooled and clouded back over, now there's a thick low level fog that's blanketed this whole fricken area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 Anyone else in southern Ontario see what I just described?? I was very reluctant to go running just before dark but I did anyways, this crap is what needs to be brought up in these stupid debates!! Stop spraying, kill GMO foods, cancel all water fluoridation immediately, etc etc. Arrrrrrrrg. So frustrating some days, sorry had to vent a little. Have you bothered to notice how INTENSELY WHITE the sun is when there isn't smog/fog/overcast. In my area it is SO intense that it is actually blinding. It has caused me to actually rethink the possible motives behind the spraying. Doesn't look any different to me for the last 47 years... That's because you can't see the sky when your head is lodged up your ass! ...says the stupid chemtard... |
| Jonny Smoke User ID: 359974 United States10/04/2012 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1148772 Have you bothered to notice how INTENSELY WHITE the sun is when there isn't smog/fog/overcast. In my area it is SO intense that it is actually blinding. It has caused me to actually rethink the possible motives behind the spraying. Doesn't look any different to me for the last 47 years... That's because you can't see the sky when your head is lodged up your ass! ...says the stupid chemtard...  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not what I am talking about. I'll try to explain a little better... Think of a parcel of air as a really big balloon, like the size of your car. This parcel of air is generated by the exhaust, in the wake of the engine. It has it's own temperature and humidity. Ambient temp is self explanatory,it is the temp and humidity of the air surrounding this parcel. Contrails occur when that parcel of air becomes saturated to the respect for water. That's why race cars can even generate contrails in the low pressure wake of the car's wings. If the ambient air surrounding this parcel is not saturated with respect for ice, the contrail particles will go through sublimation (opposite of deposition, return to ambient conditions, and disappear. The contrail will persist if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice...since it will be maintained as the parcel returns to the ambient conditions. Again, And what do you think the air is saturated with when the temperature is -40? Liquid water?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...says the stupid chemtard... No matter what you reply with...it won't change the facts.. That being you fear man made clouds because you are an ignorant and paranoid pussy. I WIN! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24526991 United States10/04/2012 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys can throw around "chemtard" as much as you want, but the fact is, there are some BIZZARE looking "clouds" outside today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24526991 Any idiot can see that THIS IS NOT NORMAL. Denytards. "bizzare looking" doesn't mean they are part of some plot... You can claim all you want that they aren't normal (I'll argue that they are normal, just maybe not natural) but that's a far cry from being part of some government program. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3843921 United States10/04/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not what I am talking about. I'll try to explain a little better... Think of a parcel of air as a really big balloon, like the size of your car. This parcel of air is generated by the exhaust, in the wake of the engine. It has it's own temperature and humidity. Ambient temp is self explanatory,it is the temp and humidity of the air surrounding this parcel. Contrails occur when that parcel of air becomes saturated to the respect for water. That's why race cars can even generate contrails in the low pressure wake of the car's wings. If the ambient air surrounding this parcel is not saturated with respect for ice, the contrail particles will go through sublimation (opposite of deposition, return to ambient conditions, and disappear. The contrail will persist if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice...since it will be maintained as the parcel returns to the ambient conditions. Again, And what do you think the air is saturated with when the temperature is -40? Liquid water?! If the ambient air is going to be saturated with anything, it is going to be ice. However, as the warm un-saturated air of the engine (parcel) mixes with the colder ambient air, that parcel with it's saturation with respect for water, forming drops, then freezing. Only if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice will those ice crystals remain, and not sublimate. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3064678  Canada10/04/2012 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shill magnet thread GO!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24699129 Hey noble, how come u only show up on Chemtard threads? Because it's a subject that I'm actually FINANCIALLY COMPENSATED to spread LIES and call people names for wanting the TRUTH about. Why do you show up at other threads...because you are paranoid about other things... Fixed it for ya, ya little RAT BASTARD. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not what I am talking about. I'll try to explain a little better... Think of a parcel of air as a really big balloon, like the size of your car. This parcel of air is generated by the exhaust, in the wake of the engine. It has it's own temperature and humidity. Ambient temp is self explanatory,it is the temp and humidity of the air surrounding this parcel. Contrails occur when that parcel of air becomes saturated to the respect for water. That's why race cars can even generate contrails in the low pressure wake of the car's wings. If the ambient air surrounding this parcel is not saturated with respect for ice, the contrail particles will go through sublimation (opposite of deposition, return to ambient conditions, and disappear. The contrail will persist if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice...since it will be maintained as the parcel returns to the ambient conditions. Again, And what do you think the air is saturated with when the temperature is -40? Liquid water?! If the ambient air is going to be saturated with anything, it is going to be ice. However, as the warm un-saturated air of the engine (parcel) mixes with the colder ambient air, that parcel with it's saturation with respect for water, forming drops, then freezing. Only if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice will those ice crystals remain, and not sublimate. Yeah?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States10/04/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shill magnet thread GO!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24699129 Hey noble, how come u only show up on Chemtard threads? Because it's a subject that I'm actually FINANCIALLY COMPENSATED to spread LIES and call people names for wanting the TRUTH about. Why do you show up at other threads...because you are paranoid about other things... Fixed it for ya, ya little RAT BASTARD. Just more evidence of YOUR paranoia. I'm not paid to point out that paranoid morons are spreading fear based on ignorance. I have lied about nothing. You stupid chemtard loser... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3843921 United States10/04/2012 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3843921 Not what I am talking about. I'll try to explain a little better... Think of a parcel of air as a really big balloon, like the size of your car. This parcel of air is generated by the exhaust, in the wake of the engine. It has it's own temperature and humidity. Ambient temp is self explanatory,it is the temp and humidity of the air surrounding this parcel. Contrails occur when that parcel of air becomes saturated to the respect for water. That's why race cars can even generate contrails in the low pressure wake of the car's wings. If the ambient air surrounding this parcel is not saturated with respect for ice, the contrail particles will go through sublimation (opposite of deposition, return to ambient conditions, and disappear. The contrail will persist if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice...since it will be maintained as the parcel returns to the ambient conditions. Again, And what do you think the air is saturated with when the temperature is -40? Liquid water?! If the ambient air is going to be saturated with anything, it is going to be ice. However, as the warm un-saturated air of the engine (parcel) mixes with the colder ambient air, that parcel with it's saturation with respect for water, forming drops, then freezing. Only if the ambient air is saturated with respect for ice will those ice crystals remain, and not sublimate. Yeah?! Yeah. |
