They chemtrailed the crap outta LA today

Just a couple questions,

What is their purpose for chemtrailing?

If a whole area is being chemtrailed, how do TPTB avoid the effects?

Thank you.

No shit...so where was I wrong? If the air is cold, but dry, the trails won't form/persist. If the air is cold and humid (and it takes MUCH less moisture to make cold air "humid", and of COURSE it's ICE!) Contrails will persist as long as the conditions remain.

They have the antidote! DUH!

Hey Noble, So when the air is at the ideal temperature -30, -40 or what have you for your theory of persistent contrails as you call them or man made clouds, and the air has a high level of saturation or humidity is high.

These are ideal specifications for the " persistent contrails"??

And this by your accounts is due to today's high efficiency jet engines?? Just clarifying ??

Here's a report from the west coast of Canada a few days ago.


[link to aircrap.org]

It's a video; good reporting.

Well, the fact that there are MORE trails is because there are more flights. And the higher efficiency engines are able to create the correct conditions more often than the older, less efficient engines.

Less efficient engines could make persistent contrails, but the ambient air had to be more "saturated in respect to ice" than it needs to be with more efficient engines.

Also, there are other factors. More engines, larger engines, more flights, more air routes, more airports, the addition of all the air freight planes from internet shopping.

Persistent contrails aren't "my theory".


They are the truth..

"chemtrails" are the theory...and a piss poor one.

Yeah, if it's on "aircrap" it must be true!

Look like contrails to me..

I see no evidence to suggest they are anything more.

Also, more powerful engines.

Goodnight chemtards...seeya in the morning..

My "shilling" shift starts at 7:30.

Let me clarify something the OVERALL level of saturation in the air is NOT because of aviation.

The water vapor created from the jet engine (water vapor is a byproduct of hydrocarbon combustion) as it flies is what creates the trail.

I re-read your post and it seem like you are suggesting that the air, in general, is more humid because of the high efficiency engines. That's not the case.

Is it desert at 30,000 feet? Or is the temperature the same no matter what the surface conditions? Use the standard lapse rate of 2 degrees celsius per 1000 foot of elevation and you will see that even on the hottest desert days, it is still extrememly cold at altitude. surface temp has nothing to do with it.

I noticed this as well; I'm seeing super wispy clouds falling off of the trails and even some disc-shaped wisps, wth is going on?

And your source is??????

It probably has to do with me getting confused when you mention "air".

When I think of air...I think of a parcel of air, and the ambient air.

Most people, when they say "air" they are talking about the ambient air, not a parcel of air.

If you are referring to ambient air when you say "air" (then that is causing some of my confusion in your statement.

Also, there is confusion when people say "humid". Humidity is a measure of water vapor, not the saturation level of ice.

As such, when people say the air has to be humid, they would be wrong. Contrails can form with relative humidity of the ambient air even as low as 0%, and can persist with relative humidity levels of 60%.

So by that account when days go by with the perfect conditions as described and the same large volume of air traffic is in our skies yet NO persistent trails exist at all??

Did all air carriers have their mechanics switch out the efficient engines and replace them with old less efficient engines?? I mean you "Theory" and it is a theory not fact doesn't hold water.

We as Chemtards or paranoid delusionals or idiots or whatever personal attack or name calling you chose to call people won't help your arguement. Geoengineering is real, it's being implemented as we type, it's effects on human health are not beneficial to those who inhale or ingest it in any manner.

It's as plain as the streaks in our skies, hundreds here agree something is wrong, and it needs to be stopped. Heavy metals aren't good and they ARE being injected into our atmosphere and I could care less what you have to say in reply.

Agreed! they chemtrailed the shit out of us today!! Never seen it like this before

same here phx,az. shit was clear yesterday they seem to be doing it like this twice a week

Here at Lake Tahoe Also.
Most of the Sierras in Nor Cal.

Oh shut the fuck up. You wouldn't know what a chemtrail looked like if it kicked you in the ass.

What that picture shows...IS a classic grid chemtrail.

they chemtrailed last night too....thats rare

looked up and counted 3 or 4 I could see

this time of year the air is dry, we just had an extreme heat wave (106) so the naysayers are full of crap with their moisture in the air crap

Same here in Italy...they're being spraying with the fog program...cannot see a single natural cloud anymore.

don't know why GLP is full of shitty threads about Obama instead of discussing about something we see above our head and that is really strange...

It's simply true, just as Noble's been saying, nothing to scientific or hard to understand about it.

Thanks to someone who pointed out that i said chemtrails instead of comtrails.

<strike>comtrails</strike> contrails.

Yep...we got hit hard in the San Berdo mountains. I was complaining to my sister in Seattle and she said they got slammed up there too. And did anyone notice the huge temp. difference this evening after they blocked out the sun?

PL:EASE, show me one! I keep hearing about them and all I see are contrails. I see no evidence that ANYONE has seen a "chemtrail".

Not in any "chemtrail" video or image....all I see are contrails.

Can you prove me wrong? NO!

Look asshole...If you want to confuse these people MORE with your pedantic use of jargon...go for it...and leave me out of it!

The fact is, engines produce water vapor through hydrocarbon combustion. The water vapor added to varying conditions will create a trail that dissipates..or one that persists...or none at all, based on those conditions.

These are CHEMTARDS we're referring to! They aren't going to get it no matter HOW in depth you go!

It's MINUS FUCKING 40...of course its saturated in respect to ice! Why are you arguing with me?

I don't care to discuss it with YOU...I want the potential chemtards (not the ones already hooked by the hoax...they are too far gone) to take the time to go to the library and learn the particulars on their own!

You believe I don't "get it"...FINE!

The truth is..the trails are normal...and chemtards are unaware and paranoid.