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"I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS," Romney said

 
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I think we need Romney to school you like he did Obama in the debate OP. Obama gave 50 times more subsidies to failed "Green energy" corporations than anyone gave to oil companies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24924823


"50 times"! Pffffftttt
Bullfuckingshit.

There have only been 3 subsidized green energy companies that have failed out of 35 and the oil companies get billions every year while raking in huge profits.

You would just cede the entire solar industry to China just as you were willing to see the entire American car industry disappear because you're a party-first rethug whose hatred for Obama overrules any sense of patriotism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24908979


JUST THREE???
You really ARE fugging stoopid, aren't you!

Update: 7/19/12: The Amonix Solar: FAIL! – manufacturing plant in North Las Vegas, subsidized by more than $20 million in federal tax credits and grants given by Obama Administration, has closed its 214,000 square foot facility a year after it opened.

Solar Trust of America: FAIL! - Filed Bankruptcy in Oakland, CA, April 3, 2012 – On April 2, 2012

Bright Source: FAIL! - Bright Source warned Obama’s Energy Department officials in March 2011 that delays in approving a $1.6 billion U.S. loan guarantee would embarrass the White House and force the solar-energy company to close. Lost Billions of dollars but Getting More Money To Keep Trying. Can you say, “This isnt working?”

Solyndra: FAIL! - Obama gave Solyndra $500,000,000 in taxpayer money and Solyndra shut its doors and laid off 1100 workers in August 2011 After Billions in Losses due to failure to make a solar product that works!

LSP Energy: FAIL! - LSPEnergy LP filed bankruptcy protection and a sale of its assets in Feb 2012

Energy Conversion Devices: FAIL! – On February 14, 2012 Energy Conversion Devices, Inc. and its subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy

Abound Solar: FAIL! - Abound Solar received a $400 million loan guarantee from Barack Obama announced in June, 2012 that it would file for bankruptcy

SunPower: FAIL! - SunPower stopped producing solar cells last year at near bankruptcy restructured only with help of, get this, oil giant TOTAL who owns 60% stake. Irony! Still struggling…

Beacon Power: FAIL! – Beacon Power Corp filed for bankruptcy Oct 2011 just a year after Obama approved $43 million loan Government loan guarantee

Ecotality: FAIL! - ECOtality, a San Francisco green-tech company that never earned any money on the verge of bankruptcy after receiving roughly $115 million in two loan guarantees from Obama

A123 Solar: FAIL! -A123 received $279 million from taxpayers thanks to President Obama’sDepartment of Energy loan guarantees and after Solyndra bankruptcy is getting another $500M from Obama and it has lost $400M

UniSolar: FAIL! - Uni-Solar filed for Ch 11 bankruptcy in June 20 this year laid off hundreds got more Obama money still failing but still in business

Azure Dynamics: FAIL! - Azure Dynamics files for bankruptcy in June wasting millions in Obama “Stimulus” and tax credits. Azure Dynamics LLC filed for bankruptcy protection in Canada and the US. Azure laid off 120 of its 160 employees in Oak Park; Boston; Vancouver, British Columbia; and the UK.

Evergreen Solar: FAIL! - Evergreen Solar received $527 Million in Taxpayer money from Obama filed bankruptcy

Ener1: FAIL! received more than $100 million in government funding from the Obama administration filed for bankruptcy January 2012
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Nice work there. There are others out there as well.

Fisker Automotive: Bankrupt.

Vice President Joseph Biden heralded the Energy Department's $529 million loan to the start-up electric car company called Fisker as a bright new path to thousands of American manufacturing jobs. But two years after the loan was announced, the company's manufacturing jobs are still limited to the assembly of the flashy electric Fisker Karma sports car in Finland.
 Quoting: your mom 24384504


Link or BULLSHIT.

This sounds like nothing more than a typically dishonest viral republican email to me.

Link or BULLSHIT.
PravdaDemocrat

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"50 times"! Pffffftttt
Bullfuckingshit.

There have only been 3 subsidized green energy companies that have failed out of 35 and the oil companies get billions every year while raking in huge profits.

You would just cede the entire solar industry to China just as you were willing to see the entire American car industry disappear because you're a party-first rethug whose hatred for Obama overrules any sense of patriotism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24908979


JUST THREE???
You really ARE fugging stoopid, aren't you!

Update: 7/19/12: The Amonix Solar: FAIL! – manufacturing plant in North Las Vegas, subsidized by more than $20 million in federal tax credits and grants given by Obama Administration, has closed its 214,000 square foot facility a year after it opened.

Solar Trust of America: FAIL! - Filed Bankruptcy in Oakland, CA, April 3, 2012 – On April 2, 2012

Bright Source: FAIL! - Bright Source warned Obama’s Energy Department officials in March 2011 that delays in approving a $1.6 billion U.S. loan guarantee would embarrass the White House and force the solar-energy company to close. Lost Billions of dollars but Getting More Money To Keep Trying. Can you say, “This isnt working?”

Solyndra: FAIL! - Obama gave Solyndra $500,000,000 in taxpayer money and Solyndra shut its doors and laid off 1100 workers in August 2011 After Billions in Losses due to failure to make a solar product that works!

LSP Energy: FAIL! - LSPEnergy LP filed bankruptcy protection and a sale of its assets in Feb 2012

Energy Conversion Devices: FAIL! – On February 14, 2012 Energy Conversion Devices, Inc. and its subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy

Abound Solar: FAIL! - Abound Solar received a $400 million loan guarantee from Barack Obama announced in June, 2012 that it would file for bankruptcy

SunPower: FAIL! - SunPower stopped producing solar cells last year at near bankruptcy restructured only with help of, get this, oil giant TOTAL who owns 60% stake. Irony! Still struggling…

Beacon Power: FAIL! – Beacon Power Corp filed for bankruptcy Oct 2011 just a year after Obama approved $43 million loan Government loan guarantee

Ecotality: FAIL! - ECOtality, a San Francisco green-tech company that never earned any money on the verge of bankruptcy after receiving roughly $115 million in two loan guarantees from Obama

A123 Solar: FAIL! -A123 received $279 million from taxpayers thanks to President Obama’sDepartment of Energy loan guarantees and after Solyndra bankruptcy is getting another $500M from Obama and it has lost $400M

UniSolar: FAIL! - Uni-Solar filed for Ch 11 bankruptcy in June 20 this year laid off hundreds got more Obama money still failing but still in business

Azure Dynamics: FAIL! - Azure Dynamics files for bankruptcy in June wasting millions in Obama “Stimulus” and tax credits. Azure Dynamics LLC filed for bankruptcy protection in Canada and the US. Azure laid off 120 of its 160 employees in Oak Park; Boston; Vancouver, British Columbia; and the UK.

Evergreen Solar: FAIL! - Evergreen Solar received $527 Million in Taxpayer money from Obama filed bankruptcy

Ener1: FAIL! received more than $100 million in government funding from the Obama administration filed for bankruptcy January 2012
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Nice work there. There are others out there as well.

Fisker Automotive: Bankrupt.

Vice President Joseph Biden heralded the Energy Department's $529 million loan to the start-up electric car company called Fisker as a bright new path to thousands of American manufacturing jobs. But two years after the loan was announced, the company's manufacturing jobs are still limited to the assembly of the flashy electric Fisker Karma sports car in Finland.
 Quoting: your mom 24384504


Link or BULLSHIT.

This sounds like nothing more than a typically dishonest viral republican email to me.

Link or BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24978774


Then, you are a dumbass...
Google it, stoopid.
Or is that beyond your limited ability?
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10/05/2012 01:09 AM
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JUST THREE???
You really ARE fugging stoopid, aren't you!

Update: 7/19/12: The Amonix Solar: FAIL! – manufacturing plant in North Las Vegas, subsidized by more than $20 million in federal tax credits and grants given by Obama Administration, has closed its 214,000 square foot facility a year after it opened.

Solar Trust of America: FAIL! - Filed Bankruptcy in Oakland, CA, April 3, 2012 – On April 2, 2012

Bright Source: FAIL! - Bright Source warned Obama’s Energy Department officials in March 2011 that delays in approving a $1.6 billion U.S. loan guarantee would embarrass the White House and force the solar-energy company to close. Lost Billions of dollars but Getting More Money To Keep Trying. Can you say, “This isnt working?”

Solyndra: FAIL! - Obama gave Solyndra $500,000,000 in taxpayer money and Solyndra shut its doors and laid off 1100 workers in August 2011 After Billions in Losses due to failure to make a solar product that works!

LSP Energy: FAIL! - LSPEnergy LP filed bankruptcy protection and a sale of its assets in Feb 2012

Energy Conversion Devices: FAIL! – On February 14, 2012 Energy Conversion Devices, Inc. and its subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy

Abound Solar: FAIL! - Abound Solar received a $400 million loan guarantee from Barack Obama announced in June, 2012 that it would file for bankruptcy

SunPower: FAIL! - SunPower stopped producing solar cells last year at near bankruptcy restructured only with help of, get this, oil giant TOTAL who owns 60% stake. Irony! Still struggling…

Beacon Power: FAIL! – Beacon Power Corp filed for bankruptcy Oct 2011 just a year after Obama approved $43 million loan Government loan guarantee

Ecotality: FAIL! - ECOtality, a San Francisco green-tech company that never earned any money on the verge of bankruptcy after receiving roughly $115 million in two loan guarantees from Obama

A123 Solar: FAIL! -A123 received $279 million from taxpayers thanks to President Obama’sDepartment of Energy loan guarantees and after Solyndra bankruptcy is getting another $500M from Obama and it has lost $400M

UniSolar: FAIL! - Uni-Solar filed for Ch 11 bankruptcy in June 20 this year laid off hundreds got more Obama money still failing but still in business

Azure Dynamics: FAIL! - Azure Dynamics files for bankruptcy in June wasting millions in Obama “Stimulus” and tax credits. Azure Dynamics LLC filed for bankruptcy protection in Canada and the US. Azure laid off 120 of its 160 employees in Oak Park; Boston; Vancouver, British Columbia; and the UK.

Evergreen Solar: FAIL! - Evergreen Solar received $527 Million in Taxpayer money from Obama filed bankruptcy

Ener1: FAIL! received more than $100 million in government funding from the Obama administration filed for bankruptcy January 2012
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Nice work there. There are others out there as well.

Fisker Automotive: Bankrupt.

Vice President Joseph Biden heralded the Energy Department's $529 million loan to the start-up electric car company called Fisker as a bright new path to thousands of American manufacturing jobs. But two years after the loan was announced, the company's manufacturing jobs are still limited to the assembly of the flashy electric Fisker Karma sports car in Finland.
 Quoting: your mom 24384504


Link or BULLSHIT.

This sounds like nothing more than a typically dishonest viral republican email to me.

Link or BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24978774


Then, you are a dumbass...
Google it, stoopid.
Or is that beyond your limited ability?
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


I googled one of these companies at random and discovered it had received less than 1/5th of what this bullshit claims.

Lying dogs.
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10/05/2012 01:39 AM

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Re: "I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS," Romney said
What big oil subsidy? Since when is allowing an oil drilling company to deduct their businesses expenses from their profits, as every single business in America does, a subsidy????

Do you ever do any research, or just listen to the stupid tv commercials put out by looser politicians?
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


I don't listen to people like you, that's for sure

Senate Rejects Attempt to End Oil Subsidies

Senate Democrats pressed for a vote Thursday to end some $20 billion in federal subsidies to the largest oil and gas companies. The vote failed, as Democrats knew it would. The effort was a political gesture aimed at highlighting Republican support for the biggest oil companies at a time when some people are struggling to afford filling their gas tanks.

[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Again, it's not a subsidy. A subsidy is when the government gives them money, as they do with wind/solar/bio fuel. This is a section in the tax code that manufacturers get to use to lower their tax bill.

If starbucks can use it, then why can't someone who is drilling for oil?

Try doing some REAL research for a change. If all domestic oil vanished, then your prices at the pump would go up and not down. Why do you hate domestic energy!!!
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10/05/2012 01:50 AM
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Re: "I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS," Romney said
What big oil subsidy? Since when is allowing an oil drilling company to deduct their businesses expenses from their profits, as every single business in America does, a subsidy????

Do you ever do any research, or just listen to the stupid tv commercials put out by looser politicians?
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


I don't listen to people like you, that's for sure

Senate Rejects Attempt to End Oil Subsidies

Senate Democrats pressed for a vote Thursday to end some $20 billion in federal subsidies to the largest oil and gas companies. The vote failed, as Democrats knew it would. The effort was a political gesture aimed at highlighting Republican support for the biggest oil companies at a time when some people are struggling to afford filling their gas tanks.

[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Again, it's not a subsidy. A subsidy is when the government gives them money, as they do with wind/solar/bio fuel. This is a section in the tax code that manufacturers get to use to lower their tax bill.

If starbucks can use it, then why can't someone who is drilling for oil?

Try doing some REAL research for a change. If all domestic oil vanished, then your prices at the pump would go up and not down. Why do you hate domestic energy!!!
 Quoting: samanthasunflower



Democrats had proposed redirecting some of the $20 billion from the subsidies to renew a series of tax credits aimed at manufacturers of solar panels, wind turbines and electric cars. Those credits ran out at the end of last year, and the renewable-energy industry has been clamoring for Congress to restore them. The remaining $9 billion would have gone toward the budget deficit.
[link to online.wsj.com]

Why do you hate America?
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Re: "I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS," Romney said
President Obama has proposed cutting fossil fuel subsidies every year he’s been in office. The projections for savings have varied slightly each year but always hover around $4 billion annually. Congress has never even proposed voting on all of them.

The global oil market, not the domestic industry, determines gas prices. Treasury estimates that subsidy removal would cause a loss of less than one tenth of one percent in global oil supply, and thus would have no impact on global or U.S. prices.

[link to priceofoil.org]
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Re: "I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS," Romney said
What big oil subsidy? Since when is allowing an oil drilling company to deduct their businesses expenses from their profits, as every single business in America does, a subsidy????

Do you ever do any research, or just listen to the stupid tv commercials put out by looser politicians?
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


I don't listen to people like you, that's for sure

Senate Rejects Attempt to End Oil Subsidies

Senate Democrats pressed for a vote Thursday to end some $20 billion in federal subsidies to the largest oil and gas companies. The vote failed, as Democrats knew it would. The effort was a political gesture aimed at highlighting Republican support for the biggest oil companies at a time when some people are struggling to afford filling their gas tanks.

[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Again, it's not a subsidy. A subsidy is when the government gives them money, as they do with wind/solar/bio fuel. This is a section in the tax code that manufacturers get to use to lower their tax bill.

If starbucks can use it, then why can't someone who is drilling for oil?

Try doing some REAL research for a change. If all domestic oil vanished, then your prices at the pump would go up and not down. Why do you hate domestic energy!!!
 Quoting: samanthasunflower



Democrats had proposed redirecting some of the $20 billion from the subsidies to renew a series of tax credits aimed at manufacturers of solar panels, wind turbines and electric cars. Those credits ran out at the end of last year, and the renewable-energy industry has been clamoring for Congress to restore them. The remaining $9 billion would have gone toward the budget deficit.
[link to online.wsj.com]

Why do you hate America?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24978774



" The $9 billion would have gone toward the budget deficit"

So, this year's deficit is $1 trillion. That is, $1,000,000,000,000 - $9 billion is .9% of that....

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