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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24965545 United Kingdom 10/04/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24965545 Very few scientists are funded one way of another by government no warming = no cash. Look at the rise of eco cars the more they are bought= lower consumption = creeping up prices for magical reasons the sun controls our planets temperature and then our planet wobbles (to be scientific) Check out A)0 milankovich cycles B) CERN cloud experiment then return with a new thread saying you KNOW as a FACT So you are saying there is no warming . . .??? If you are you have not lived in areas of the world where glaciers are receding in rapid fashion . . . I have seen it with my own eyes . . . I also see species living in temperature zones where they have never invaded before . . . so can it be a natural cycle . . . sure . . . so is the extinction of dominate species . . . man is a dominate species . . . the difference is we can invent ways to prevent our own extinction . . . at least I hope so !!!! what you are saying is that the world has never warmed before and is now entirely due to humans ? prevention cant happen The world will do what it wants to do and the same as every animal ever we adapt or die I did not say that . . . I have not attributed the warming to any source . . . I said above that it could be a natural cycle . . . I said that it exists and could become critical in the survival of a dominate species like mankind . . .the difference is we may invent ways to prevent our extinction . . . That is fair i read you for a hippy global warming was created for taxes and taxes alone. If the sun wants to cook us slowly we may evolve if quick we will cook i know that for a fact you cant stop chang or reverse so what do you propose as the solution? |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 10/04/2012 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B So you are saying there is no warming . . .??? If you are you have not lived in areas of the world where glaciers are receding in rapid fashion . . . I have seen it with my own eyes . . . I also see species living in temperature zones where they have never invaded before . . . so can it be a natural cycle . . . sure . . . so is the extinction of dominate species . . . man is a dominate species . . . the difference is we can invent ways to prevent our own extinction . . . at least I hope so !!!! what you are saying is that the world has never warmed before and is now entirely due to humans ? prevention cant happen The world will do what it wants to do and the same as every animal ever we adapt or die I did not say that . . . I have not attributed the warming to any source . . . I said above that it could be a natural cycle . . . I said that it exists and could become critical in the survival of a dominate species like mankind . . .the difference is we may invent ways to prevent our extinction . . . That is fair i read you for a hippy global warming was created for taxes and taxes alone. If the sun wants to cook us slowly we may evolve if quick we will cook i know that for a fact you cant stop chang or reverse so what do you propose as the solution? Well one of Edward Teller's friends suggested a nuclear winter . . . I don't suggest that, but I might replicate in a more controlled way, what Mount Pinatubo did in 1991 . . . injected 20 Million Metric Tons of Sulfur Dioxide into the stratosphere . . . it halted the warming . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org] HOW? By using Commercial Aviation . . . Last Edited by George B on 10/04/2012 06:08 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 10/04/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those that think global warming is a hoax. . . .someone is going to great effort to present evidence like the following. . . . Greenland Ice Sheet [link to phys.org] "Aerial oblique view of the Petermann glacier front on 24 July, 2011 Alun Hubbard of Aberystwyth University, Wales. The melting of glaciers is seen as a yardstick by which the warming of the planet is measured. Climate change experts have warned that sea-level rises caused as the planet warms and the glaciers melt could devastate coastal and island communities. A British glaciologist who has been studying the Petermann Glacier in north-west Greenland, which is over 300km long and makes up 6% of the Greenland ice sheet, described pictures showing how fast it had melted as “gob-smacking.” "New research shows that 2010 set new records for the melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet, expected to be a major contributor to projected sea level rises in coming decades." [link to phys.org] [link to www1.ccny.cuny.edu] "Extreme Melting on Greenland Ice Sheet, Reports CCNY Team * GLACIAL MELT CYCLE COULD BECOME SELF-AMPLIFYING, MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO HALT Marco Tedesco standing on the edge of one of four moulins (drainage holes) he and his team found at the bottom of a supraglacial lake during the expedition to Greenland in the summer, 2011. (Credit: P. Alexander) The Greenland ice sheet can experience extreme melting even when temperatures don’t hit record highs, according to a new analysis by Dr. Marco Tedesco, assistant professor in the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at The City College of New York. *His findings suggest that glaciers could undergo a self-amplifying cycle of melting and warming that would be difficult to halt." Greenland glacier melting faster than expected [link to www.youtube.com] Check out this video on YouTube: [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by George B on 10/04/2012 06:16 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
jack ruby User ID: 31644290 United Kingdom 01/06/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello George! I hope this finds you very well. Sorry if a little 'off topic', but hey-ho... lee h here....the 'existentialist' - remember me? Was just checking the old stomping ground and, well, plus ca change! etc I see 9/11 is on again - if you haven't already, then do yourself a favour and watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4 Over two hours long, but well worth it - where you'll find an abundance of eminently sane, professional, expert opinion from structural engineers, architects (including high-rise steel-framed), demolition operatives, explosives experts both civil and miltary in background. Even a few psychology professionals to help explain part of what you're up against. If you want to contact me - please feel free at [email protected] and I'll give you my real-world mail and more A bientot! Take care Best lee |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 22358455 United States 01/06/2013 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello George! Quoting: jack ruby 31644290 I hope this finds you very well. Sorry if a little 'off topic', but hey-ho... lee h here....the 'existentialist' - remember me? Was just checking the old stomping ground and, well, plus ca change! etc I see 9/11 is on again - if you haven't already, then do yourself a favour and watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4 Over two hours long, but well worth it - where you'll find an abundance of eminently sane, professional, expert opinion from structural engineers, architects (including high-rise steel-framed), demolition operatives, explosives experts both civil and miltary in background. Even a few psychology professionals to help explain part of what you're up against. If you want to contact me - please feel free at [email protected] and I'll give you my real-world mail and more A bientot! Take care Best lee Hello Lee how are you doing?? I am on the road in Miami presently will review your info . . . nice to hear from you . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18598833 United States 01/06/2013 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Years ago I was told that the longer the post, the more detailed with many links, the higher the odds that they are being paid to post Sure looks like you're on a mission How much do they pay you? Do you get dental with that? lmfao |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19004483 United States 01/06/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Planet does not need saving. Every time a sociopaths like yourself gets such a brilliant idea, that idea only makes things worse. The Earth can take care of itself, and will. You see all the water drying up? The seasons changing so that crops dont grow? Super Volcanoes waking? The Sun acting strange? Mother Nature is the Ultimate Eugenicists. She has a million ways to kill you, and all of us, solving the problem. She has done it in the past, and will again. Who is a match for her? Tell me? NO ONE. She always gets her way, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Penicillin was her. Giving us a chance to prove if we have evolved any. What is the verdict since then? When the pits of hell are opened upon the Earth, and the demons of molten lava roar, and the Sun spits, and the water is gone, and Humans don ash and lamentations, then all will know her judgements. The purification and cleansing of animal flesh upon the ground will come. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 22358455 United States 01/07/2013 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Planet does not need saving. Every time a sociopaths like yourself gets such a brilliant idea, that idea only makes things worse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004483 The Earth can take care of itself, and will. You see all the water drying up? The seasons changing so that crops dont grow? Super Volcanoes waking? The Sun acting strange? Mother Nature is the Ultimate Eugenicists. She has a million ways to kill you, and all of us, solving the problem. She has done it in the past, and will again. Who is a match for her? Tell me? NO ONE. She always gets her way, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Penicillin was her. Giving us a chance to prove if we have evolved any. What is the verdict since then? When the pits of hell are opened upon the Earth, and the demons of molten lava roar, and the Sun spits, and the water is gone, and Humans don ash and lamentations, then all will know her judgements. The purification and cleansing of animal flesh upon the ground will come. Wow! You would be fun at a party . . . humans are part of the problem but may be part of the solution as well . . . we are part of the earth as well . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 22358455 United States 01/07/2013 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enjoy talking to yourself much OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18598833 Years ago I was told that the longer the post, the more detailed with many links, the higher the odds that they are being paid to post Sure looks like you're on a mission How much do they pay you? Do you get dental with that? lmfao I give myself an allowance . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 22358455 United States 01/07/2013 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who looks now sees the spray Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8434843 Ing program, and realises the scope and duration. What we see everyday can and often is not exactly what we think it may be . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 22358455 United States 01/07/2013 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is a totally different issue . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 22358455 United States 01/07/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they can stop flying drugs for the CIA for starters. those are not really medical supplies for the Red Cross. I am sure there is more than the CIA involved . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States 02/19/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One scheme which is not talked about much . . . it doesn't use Sulfur Compounds nor does it use injection into the stratosphere is the following . . . it uses a type of high tropospheric cloud seeding to reduce cirrus clouds and thus reduce the amount of heat retained or reflected back into Quoting: George B Modification of cirrus clouds to reduce global warming David L Mitchell and William Finnegan Desert Research Institute, Reno, NV 89512-1095, USA E-mail: [email protected] Received 1 April 2009 Accepted 12 August 2009 Published 30 October 2009 Abstract. Greenhouse gases and cirrus clouds regulate outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) and cirrus cloud coverage is predicted to be sensitive to the ice fall speed which depends on ice crystal size. The higher the cirrus, the greater their impact is on OLR. Thus by changing ice crystal size in the coldest cirrus, OLR and climate might be modified. Fortunately the coldest cirrus have the highest ice supersaturation due to the dominance of homogeneous freezing nucleation. Seeding such cirrus with very efficient heterogeneous ice nuclei should produce larger ice crystals due to vapor competition effects, thus increasing OLR and surface cooling. Preliminary estimates of this global net cloud forcing are more negative than–2.8 W m–2 and could neutralize the radiative forcing due to a CO2 doubling (3.7 W m–2). A potential delivery mechanism for the seeding material is already in place: the airline industry. Since seeding aerosol residence times in the troposphere are relatively short, the climate might return to its normal state within months after stopping the geoengineering experiment. The main known drawback to this approach is that it would not stop ocean acidification. It does not have many of the drawbacks that stratospheric injection of sulfur species has. [link to iopscience.iop.org] It appears the delivery mechanism (chemical trails) is already in place. "Surprise.....Surprise" |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 13873512 United States 02/20/2014 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One scheme which is not talked about much . . . it doesn't use Sulfur Compounds nor does it use injection into the stratosphere is the following . . . it uses a type of high tropospheric cloud seeding to reduce cirrus clouds and thus reduce the amount of heat retained or reflected back into Quoting: George B Modification of cirrus clouds to reduce global warming David L Mitchell and William Finnegan Desert Research Institute, Reno, NV 89512-1095, USA E-mail: [email protected] Received 1 April 2009 Accepted 12 August 2009 Published 30 October 2009 Abstract. Greenhouse gases and cirrus clouds regulate outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) and cirrus cloud coverage is predicted to be sensitive to the ice fall speed which depends on ice crystal size. The higher the cirrus, the greater their impact is on OLR. Thus by changing ice crystal size in the coldest cirrus, OLR and climate might be modified. Fortunately the coldest cirrus have the highest ice supersaturation due to the dominance of homogeneous freezing nucleation. Seeding such cirrus with very efficient heterogeneous ice nuclei should produce larger ice crystals due to vapor competition effects, thus increasing OLR and surface cooling. Preliminary estimates of this global net cloud forcing are more negative than–2.8 W m–2 and could neutralize the radiative forcing due to a CO2 doubling (3.7 W m–2). A potential delivery mechanism for the seeding material is already in place: the airline industry. Since seeding aerosol residence times in the troposphere are relatively short, the climate might return to its normal state within months after stopping the geoengineering experiment. The main known drawback to this approach is that it would not stop ocean acidification. It does not have many of the drawbacks that stratospheric injection of sulfur species has. [link to iopscience.iop.org] It appears the delivery mechanism (chemical trails) is already in place. "Surprise.....Surprise" "Substances exist that nucleate ice crystals as effectively as silver iodide (AgI, the best ice nucleant known) at cirrus cloud temperatures, and some are relatively inexpensive and non-toxic (see section 2.1). If significantly larger, these artificially seeded ice crystals would fall faster, and their higher fall velocities may lead to reduced cirrus cloud coverage as predicted in GCM simulations (Mitchell et al 2008, Sanderson et al 2008). The lower cirrus cloud coverage would result in greater OLR and cooler surface temperatures, thus reducing the impact of global warming. It is important to note that the decrease in cirrus coverage would occur where the cirrus greenhouse effect is strongest (i.e. temperatures < –40 °C). This is a key principle for this geoengineering idea." You will notice form this same paper (quote above) that the targeted area to mitigate Cirrus Clouds is where Cirrus Clouds naturally form . . . which is the same areas where contrails form via air traffic. So the aircraft do not produce the Cirrus Clouds they only trigger their formation when conditions are ripe . . . The key to this paper is that one could use silver iodine or some other nucleating agent to dissipate Cirrus Clouds in the higher Troposphere not that it is now being done!!! Last Edited by George B on 02/20/2014 01:18 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 13873512 United States 02/20/2014 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One scheme which is not talked about much . . . it doesn't use Sulfur Compounds nor does it use injection into the stratosphere is the following . . . it uses a type of high tropospheric cloud seeding to reduce cirrus clouds and thus reduce the amount of heat retained or reflected back into Quoting: George B Modification of cirrus clouds to reduce global warming David L Mitchell and William Finnegan Desert Research Institute, Reno, NV 89512-1095, USA E-mail: [email protected] Received 1 April 2009 Accepted 12 August 2009 Published 30 October 2009 Abstract. Greenhouse gases and cirrus clouds regulate outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) and cirrus cloud coverage is predicted to be sensitive to the ice fall speed which depends on ice crystal size. The higher the cirrus, the greater their impact is on OLR. Thus by changing ice crystal size in the coldest cirrus, OLR and climate might be modified. Fortunately the coldest cirrus have the highest ice supersaturation due to the dominance of homogeneous freezing nucleation. Seeding such cirrus with very efficient heterogeneous ice nuclei should produce larger ice crystals due to vapor competition effects, thus increasing OLR and surface cooling. Preliminary estimates of this global net cloud forcing are more negative than–2.8 W m–2 and could neutralize the radiative forcing due to a CO2 doubling (3.7 W m–2). A potential delivery mechanism for the seeding material is already in place: the airline industry. Since seeding aerosol residence times in the troposphere are relatively short, the climate might return to its normal state within months after stopping the geoengineering experiment. The main known drawback to this approach is that it would not stop ocean acidification. It does not have many of the drawbacks that stratospheric injection of sulfur species has. [link to iopscience.iop.org] It appears the delivery mechanism (chemical trails) is already in place. "Surprise.....Surprise" "Substances exist that nucleate ice crystals as effectively as silver iodide (AgI, the best ice nucleant known) at cirrus cloud temperatures, and some are relatively inexpensive and non-toxic (see section 2.1). If significantly larger, these artificially seeded ice crystals would fall faster, and their higher fall velocities may lead to reduced cirrus cloud coverage as predicted in GCM simulations (Mitchell et al 2008, Sanderson et al 2008). The lower cirrus cloud coverage would result in greater OLR and cooler surface temperatures, thus reducing the impact of global warming. It is important to note that the decrease in cirrus coverage would occur where the cirrus greenhouse effect is strongest (i.e. temperatures < –40 °C). This is a key principle for this geoengineering idea." You will notice form this same paper (quote above) that the targeted area to mitigate Cirrus Clouds is where Cirrus Clouds naturally form . . . which is the same areas where contrails form via air traffic. So the aircraft do not produce the Cirrus Clouds they only trigger their formation when conditions are ripe . . . The key to this paper is that one could use silver iodine or some other nucleating agent to dissipate Cirrus Clouds in the higher Troposphere not that it is now being done!!! Seems a possible scenario could be to get permission for each long haul commercial jet to carry a canister of silver iodide (AgI) and when they transverse an area of projected cirrus cloud bank (persistent contrail) activity via a projection by NASA . . . a ground signal could release the contents of the canister . . . this would be a passive system . . . when a canister is expended it would be replaced at the next airport . . . [link to cloudsgate2.larc.nasa.gov] [link to cloudsgate2.larc.nasa.gov] Last Edited by George B on 02/20/2014 02:45 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 13873512 United States 02/21/2014 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason there are more and more persistent trails in the sky . . . and the reason civil aviation has the best chance to solve the global warming issue if emergency actions are deemed necessary. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 13873512 United States 05/01/2014 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The planet needs saving from the dark energy of all the evil oppressive governments, or the shadow govts controlling them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57581260 More white light energy to help raise its vibration. Yes, but that has been going on for at least 3,000 years and nothing has changed much! The human condition is consistent, if nothing else! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 02/21/2015 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | David Keith's new announcements have reduced my estimate of the size and number needed . . . he said only three are needed. Thread: Secret Chemtrail Pilot Speaks Out? SAys Chemtrails Now in Phase II (Page 6) Idk, but if they are talking about doing it, it's probably already being done. Quoting: Sand Diva Gina [link to thecolbertreport.cc.com] Even if they did and used sulfuric acid injected into the stratosphere as David Keith suggested it would not look like persistent contrails (they would be invisible). . . It would also be detected within a few weeks unless they were flying missions near known volcanic plumes. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 02/21/2015 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | David Keith's new announcements have reduced my estimate of the size and number needed . . . he said only three are needed. Quoting: George B Thread: Secret Chemtrail Pilot Speaks Out? SAys Chemtrails Now in Phase II (Page 6) Idk, but if they are talking about doing it, it's probably already being done. Quoting: Sand Diva Gina [link to thecolbertreport.cc.com] Even if they did and used sulfuric acid injected into the stratosphere as David Keith suggested it would not look like persistent contrails (they would be invisible). . . It would also be detected within a few weeks unless they were flying missions near known volcanic plumes. In the video he states one would start with only 2-3 modified business jets injecting only 20,000 Tons of Sulfuric Acid, the first year, at 20 Km or 65,616 feet. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 02/21/2015 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thecolbertreport.cc.com] While he made this announcement the math, IMO, does not add up. A modified business jet cannot carry more than somewhere between 2,000-3,000 pounds. Their normal operational ceiling is in the area of 51,000 feet. With a full fuel load and 2,500 pounds of Sulfuric Acid reaching 66,000 feet is extremely problematic. Last Edited by George B on 02/21/2015 12:30 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 02/21/2015 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thecolbertreport.cc.com] Quoting: George B While he made this announcement the math, IMO, does not add up. A modified business jet cannot carry more than somewhere between 2,000-3,000 pounds. Their normal operational ceiling is in the area of 51,000 feet. With a full fuel load and 2,500 pounds of Sulfuric Acid reaching 66,000 feet is extremely problematic. 20 thousand tons is 40,000,000 pounds (40 million) of acid to be injected well into the stratosphere by 3 aircraft supposedly in one year. Well let's do the math. With 300 days of operation at 3 flights each day that would be 3x3x300 or 1,800 flights each year. This 2,500x1800=4,500,000 pounds each year or only 11.25% of the total needed to be injected of the 40,000,000 pounds. Last Edited by George B on 02/21/2015 12:44 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 02/21/2015 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thecolbertreport.cc.com] Quoting: George B While he made this announcement the math, IMO, does not add up. A modified business jet cannot carry more than somewhere between 2,000-3,000 pounds. Their normal operational ceiling is in the area of 51,000 feet. With a full fuel load and 2,500 pounds of Sulfuric Acid reaching 66,000 feet is extremely problematic. 20 thousand tons is 40,000,000 pounds (40 million) of acid to be injected well into the stratosphere by 3 aircraft supposedly in one year. Well let's do the math. With 300 days of operation at 3 flights each day that would be 3x3x300 or 1,800 flights each year. This 2,500x1800=4,500,000 pounds each year or only 11.25% of the total needed to be injected of the 40,000,000 pounds. 40,000,000 pounds of Sulfuric Acid/(300 flight days x 3 flight per aircraft each day x 2,500 pounds of Acid injected per flight) = 17.7777 Aircraft. Conclusion based on David Keith's total Acid needed to inject 20 thousand tons in the first year. Assuming 3 flights a day for 300 days you would need 18 aircraft. Last Edited by George B on 02/21/2015 12:59 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |