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WHO COULD HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS MORE?

 
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POLL: WHO CAN BEST HELP THE STRUGGLING MIDDLE CLASS?
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 Neither will ease the burden on the middle class.
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Which Candidate can help the struggling middle class more?

I know Liberals say Romney will only help the Rich.

Conservatives think Obama will only help the poor through redistribution.

Who can and will help the middle class more, and why?
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Ron Paul would have fixed things quickly by slashing military and letting other countries handle their own shit. Over half of our cuntry's budget goes to genocide. Half.

Finland spends half its budget on education. They have more PHD's than anyone and each kid speaks 6 languages fluently.
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Ron Paul would have fixed things quickly by slashing military and letting other countries handle their own shit. Over half of our cuntry's budget goes to genocide. Half.

Finland spends half its budget on education. They have more PHD's than anyone and each kid speaks 6 languages fluently.
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Ron Paul 2016!!
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You too??? Very disappointing.

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Neither, none of them care
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Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.

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Neither, none of them care
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That is an option in the poll.
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You too??? Very disappointing.

putin
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Elaborate?
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Re: WHO COULD HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS MORE?
Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Good points all around.

Nice post.

cheers
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interesting, almost 40% still drinkin' the kool-aid.
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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interesting, almost 40% still drinkin' the kool-aid.
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I take it you're not convinced either will help the MC?
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Balance the books, wipe out the gambling debts, protect depositers, fair trade, fair taxes, accountability, ethical competent leadership, our own monetary system, that's all we really need, we don't need wealth redistribution, we need to level the playing field and let the best win instead of enabling and working (and voting) for the real losers, i.e,. entitlement crowds (something for nothing) both top and bottom. Get rid of the parasites, and get out of the way of the truly productive. This is just a partial list, but not means complete, just off top of head.
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Balance the books, wipe out the gambling debts, protect depositers, fair trade, fair taxes, accountability, ethical competent leadership, our own monetary system, that's all we really need, we don't need wealth redistribution, we need to level the playing field and let the best win instead of enabling and working (and voting) for the real losers, i.e,. entitlement crowds (something for nothing) both top and bottom. Get rid of the parasites, and get out of the way of the truly productive. This is just a partial list, but not means complete, just off top of head.
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Nice, you made some great points. The government shouldn't be picking winners and losers.
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Some more: Quit war mongering in other countries, quit trying to be Rome, cut off the Chinese, bring our manufacturing back to this country, enact tough immigration reform, protect our land/resources/people. We have a lot of resources in America, plenty to trade freely with other countries, we don't need the top screwing other countries for us to survive, we don't need the latest gadgets or tennis shoes in return for losing employment here, we really don't need their CRAP. The bankers/global corps. are loving it though.
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Some more: Quit war mongering in other countries, quit trying to be Rome, cut off the Chinese, bring our manufacturing back to this country, enact tough immigration reform, protect our land/resources/people. We have a lot of resources in America, plenty to trade freely with other countries, we don't need the top screwing other countries for us to survive, we don't need the latest gadgets or tennis shoes in return for losing employment here, we really don't need their CRAP. The bankers/global corps. are loving it though.
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clappa
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Which Candidate can help the struggling middle class more?

I know Liberals say Romney will only help the Rich.

Conservatives think Obama will only help the poor through redistribution.

Who can and will help the middle class more, and why?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


neither.


democrats cater to the lower income & disadvantaged.
republicans cater to the upper income & corporations.

middle class gets screwed with either candidate.

this is why it makes NO SENSE to have a 2 party system for such a large country.

2 parties do not represent the will of the people.

middle class has this choice:

submit your taxes to aid non-working people who are jobless.
OR
submit your taxes to aid corporations to send jobs overseas.
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Which Candidate can help the struggling middle class more?

I know Liberals say Romney will only help the Rich.

Conservatives think Obama will only help the poor through redistribution.

Who can and will help the middle class more, and why?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


neither.


democrats cater to the lower income & disadvantaged.
republicans cater to the upper income & corporations.

middle class gets screwed with either candidate.

this is why it makes NO SENSE to have a 2 party system for such a large country.

2 parties do not represent the will of the people.

middle class has this choice:

submit your taxes to aid non-working people who are jobless.
OR
submit your taxes to aid corporations to send jobs overseas.
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That has been the trend for a while now hasn't it?
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interesting, almost 40% still drinkin' the kool-aid.
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


I take it you're not convinced either will help the MC?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


march
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
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Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
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Yea it does. The government steals our money and makes investments with it. Solyndra didn't work out too well.
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The middle class will always struggle, that's why its called the middle class.

So in a nutshell I have to say there is too much grey area to fill in. Not to accuse you of being vague.


That said I say Romney, he understands that a strong economy is a strong nation. I just don't think the empty chair gets it.
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The middle class will always struggle, that's why its called the middle class.

So in a nutshell I have to say there is too much grey area to fill in. Not to accuse you of being vague.


That said I say Romney, he understands that a strong economy is a strong nation. I just don't think the empty chair gets it.
 Quoting: MultiStrada


I don't get you......

One day you do nothing but insult and try and provoke me...then some days you act like you want to have a real discussion..
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Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


putin
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Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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The middle class will always struggle, that's why its called the middle class.

So in a nutshell I have to say there is too much grey area to fill in. Not to accuse you of being vague.


That said I say Romney, he understands that a strong economy is a strong nation. I just don't think the empty chair gets it.
 Quoting: MultiStrada


I don't get you......

One day you do nothing but insult and try and provoke me...then some days you act like you want to have a real discussion..
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Aww, bffs now!
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Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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Re: WHO COULD HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS MORE?
Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
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Yea it does. The government steals our money and makes investments with it. Solyndra didn't work out too well.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


anyone can get lucky and hit on an investment. that in no way qualifies them to be president. nice hypocrisy there on the solyndra remark too. konarka and ctp hydrogen didn't work out too well for romney, but you conveniently leave that out because it doesn't suit your argument.
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The middle class will always struggle, that's why its called the middle class.

So in a nutshell I have to say there is too much grey area to fill in. Not to accuse you of being vague.


That said I say Romney, he understands that a strong economy is a strong nation. I just don't think the empty chair gets it.
 Quoting: MultiStrada


I don't get you......

One day you do nothing but insult and try and provoke me...then some days you act like you want to have a real discussion..
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Aww, bffs now!
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


We got matching Tats
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Re: WHO COULD HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS MORE?
Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Yea it does. The government steals our money and makes investments with it. Solyndra didn't work out too well.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


anyone can get lucky and hit on an investment. that in no way qualifies them to be president. nice hypocrisy there on the solyndra remark too. konarka and ctp hydrogen didn't work out too well for romney, but you conveniently leave that out because it doesn't suit your argument.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
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Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
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putin
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why don't you actually respond instead of posting a picture? too hard on the old noggin?
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Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


putin
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why don't you actually respond instead of posting a picture? too hard on the old noggin?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Yes, my head hurts and so does Vlad's.
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best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
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Yea it does. The government steals our money and makes investments with it. Solyndra didn't work out too well.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


anyone can get lucky and hit on an investment. that in no way qualifies them to be president. nice hypocrisy there on the solyndra remark too. konarka and ctp hydrogen didn't work out too well for romney, but you conveniently leave that out because it doesn't suit your argument.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met

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