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WHO COULD HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS MORE?

 
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best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
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putin
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why don't you actually respond instead of posting a picture? too hard on the old noggin?
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Yes, my head hurts and so does Vlad's.
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not surprised at all
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Well, Obama has had four years to help the middle class, and it's only gotten worse. Hell, even his own VP said the middle class has been buried. Obama's own mouth said that "We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs." Which class is that taking a shot at?

Paraphrasing Huckabee: If I had $10,000 to invest, would I get a better return if I gave it to Obama or Romney?

But to clarify: There are better options than these two.
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best part is that has nothing to do with which one would be a better president
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


putin
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why don't you actually respond instead of posting a picture? too hard on the old noggin?
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Romney made investments for a living, Obama spent other people's money organizing whatever he did as a community organizer.

80% success rate.

Last Edited by Sleeping Giant on 10/04/2012 02:48 PM
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."
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Yea it does. The government steals our money and makes investments with it. Solyndra didn't work out too well.
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anyone can get lucky and hit on an investment. that in no way qualifies them to be president. nice hypocrisy there on the solyndra remark too. konarka and ctp hydrogen didn't work out too well for romney, but you conveniently leave that out because it doesn't suit your argument.
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No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
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Of course. I was just responding to you saying it had NOTHING to do with being POTUS, when that is a fabrication.

We all know there is more to it tho.
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Yea it does. The government steals our money and makes investments with it. Solyndra didn't work out too well.
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anyone can get lucky and hit on an investment. that in no way qualifies them to be president. nice hypocrisy there on the solyndra remark too. konarka and ctp hydrogen didn't work out too well for romney, but you conveniently leave that out because it doesn't suit your argument.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


If he were good in any aspect of being president, then yes, maybe we could look past his $6.5 BILLION dollar (as of Jan) wasteful green ventures.

Last Edited by Sleeping Giant on 10/04/2012 02:55 PM
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."
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anyone can get lucky and hit on an investment. that in no way qualifies them to be president. nice hypocrisy there on the solyndra remark too. konarka and ctp hydrogen didn't work out too well for romney, but you conveniently leave that out because it doesn't suit your argument.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Of course. I was just responding to you saying it had NOTHING to do with being POTUS, when that is a fabrication.

We all know there is more to it tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


so we agree that investment decisions alone have nothing to do with whether or not one would be a good president. that's what the quote implied, and that's what i was responding to in the first place. stop moving the goal posts
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No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Of course. I was just responding to you saying it had NOTHING to do with being POTUS, when that is a fabrication.

We all know there is more to it tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


so we agree that investment decisions alone have nothing to do with whether or not one would be a good president. that's what the quote implied, and that's what i was responding to in the first place. stop moving the goal posts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


lol, ok.

You cannot handle being wrong can you..

Oh well..1dunno1
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anyone can get lucky and hit on an investment. that in no way qualifies them to be president. nice hypocrisy there on the solyndra remark too. konarka and ctp hydrogen didn't work out too well for romney, but you conveniently leave that out because it doesn't suit your argument.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


If he were good in any aspect of being president, then yes, maybe we could look past his $6.5 BILLION dollar (as of Jan) wasteful green ventures.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


ok, so you think a white version of obama will be better? these guys are more similar than any republican will admit. and you act like romney has an immaculate investment record, he doesn't
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The middle class will always struggle, that's why its called the middle class.

So in a nutshell I have to say there is too much grey area to fill in. Not to accuse you of being vague.


That said I say Romney, he understands that a strong economy is a strong nation. I just don't think the empty chair gets it.
 Quoting: MultiStrada


I don't get you......

One day you do nothing but insult and try and provoke me...then some days you act like you want to have a real discussion..
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Aww, bffs now!
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


We got matching Tats
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I said what I had to say dude, once that was done it was done as far as I'm concerned. I can understand your skepticism but I don't hold grudges past their prime. I'm all about red meat when it comes to blogs.

Gots to go, have a good day all. LOL on matching tats.
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sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
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Of course. I was just responding to you saying it had NOTHING to do with being POTUS, when that is a fabrication.

We all know there is more to it tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


so we agree that investment decisions alone have nothing to do with whether or not one would be a good president. that's what the quote implied, and that's what i was responding to in the first place. stop moving the goal posts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


lol, ok.

You cannot handle being wrong can you..

Oh well..1dunno1
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


i have to admit you're good at manipulating a conversation. attempting to change the context of my comment will obviously make me out to be wrong. you must watch a lot of cable news
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No, because Romney had more success than failures in private business and investing.

Obama has had more faliures than successes.

Nice try tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


If he were good in any aspect of being president, then yes, maybe we could look past his $6.5 BILLION dollar (as of Jan) wasteful green ventures.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


ok, so you think a white version of obama will be better? these guys are more similar than any republican will admit. and you act like romney has an immaculate investment record, he doesn't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


No, but Romney never palled around with Anti-American terrorists, either. Hell yeah Romney is too moderate, but at least I believe that he believes in a free-market system. Obama even slipped up last night when he said everyone should have a "fair share."
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."
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Of course. I was just responding to you saying it had NOTHING to do with being POTUS, when that is a fabrication.

We all know there is more to it tho.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


so we agree that investment decisions alone have nothing to do with whether or not one would be a good president. that's what the quote implied, and that's what i was responding to in the first place. stop moving the goal posts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


lol, ok.

You cannot handle being wrong can you..

Oh well..1dunno1
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


i have to admit you're good at manipulating a conversation. attempting to change the context of my comment will obviously make me out to be wrong. you must watch a lot of cable news
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Well, unless you can provide proof I did that...I still say you are too prideful to admit you are wrong.
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sorry, but investment decisions aren't the bottom line in what makes a good president. there are many more areas of adequacy that need to be met
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


If he were good in any aspect of being president, then yes, maybe we could look past his $6.5 BILLION dollar (as of Jan) wasteful green ventures.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


ok, so you think a white version of obama will be better? these guys are more similar than any republican will admit. and you act like romney has an immaculate investment record, he doesn't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


No, but Romney never palled around with Anti-American terrorists, either. Hell yeah Romney is too moderate, but at least I believe that he believes in a free-market system. Obama even slipped up last night when he said everyone should have a "fair share."
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ohyeah
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The "neither" option is almost tied with "Romney"

Obama with only 6 votes.....lol
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Ron Paul would have fixed things quickly by slashing military and letting other countries handle their own shit. Over half of our cuntry's budget goes to genocide. Half.

Finland spends half its budget on education. They have more PHD's than anyone and each kid speaks 6 languages fluently.
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clappa
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The "neither" option is almost tied with "Romney"

Obama with only 6 votes.....lol
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Maybe the Obamas do get on glp.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."
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The "neither" option is almost tied with "Romney"

Obama with only 6 votes.....lol
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Maybe the Obamas do get on glp.
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lol
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Romney passed up the "neither" option


Obama still at 6 votes...
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Gary Johnson. For proof, look what he did to New Mexico and as an employer.
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both could. neither will.
imo banks are the primary problem for the middle class & they own both parties.

US Government Accountability Office - audit of the Federal Reserve System bailout.
Table 25 on page 216 is interesting.
[link to www.sanders.senate.gov]

Especially when you compare it to the "Fence Sitters" (contribute equally to both parties) on the Open Secrets Top Donors list. (sort by "tilt").
[link to www.opensecrets.org]

here's a table of the 2 spliced

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Tyrion Lannister gets my vote.
[link to sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net]

at gun point i'd give it to the prez as he doesn't have a history of actively outsourcing middle class jobs for fun & profit. but that is more of a "who will damage it less?" question.
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Gary Johnson. For proof, look what he did to New Mexico and as an employer.
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rockon
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both could. neither will.
imo banks are the primary problem for the middle class & they own both parties.

US Government Accountability Office - audit of the Federal Reserve System bailout.
Table 25 on page 216 is interesting.
[link to www.sanders.senate.gov]

Especially when you compare it to the "Fence Sitters" (contribute equally to both parties) on the Open Secrets Top Donors list. (sort by "tilt").
[link to www.opensecrets.org]

here's a table of the 2 spliced

IMAGE ( [link to brainwashaudio.com] )


Tyrion Lannister gets my vote.
[link to sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net]

at gun point i'd give it to the prez as he doesn't have a history of actively outsourcing middle class jobs for fun & profit. but that is more of a "who will damage it less?" question.
 Quoting: metaball


Nice. Good links to support your claims

cheers

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