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This Sunday 1,500 MINISTERS TO PREACH ON POLITICS. Movement challenges IRS ban on naming names from pulpit

 
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How did this happen in the first place - an Unpin? Really?
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I hope they did not unpin this..

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Anything that false prophets John Hagee and Mike Hucksterbee are involved in has GOT to be crooked.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.

They're not going to be preaching that the Bible commands debt release every seven years or that the Good Book forbids interracial marriage.
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They do not qualify as False Prophets...

They have never said there is another way to salvation..
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THE CHURCH AWAKES FROM SLUMBER:
PUT'S ON THE SPIRITUAL ARMOUR OF CHRIST AND FIGHTS THIS SPIRITUAL BATTLE!

About time!


The number of pastors boldly opposing the IRS rule grew to 539 in 2011 and is expected to be more than 1,500 on Oct. 7, during what organizers are calling “Pulpit Freedom Sunday.”

The pastors find support and instructions on participating at pulpitfreedom.org, and they are backed by a legal team at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Pastors who participate in the special Sunday event send recordings of their sermons to the IRS, effectively throwing down the challenge to argue the free speech of ministers in open court.

“It is important to note that in our opinion provisions of the tax code are unconstitutional,” says a letter from the Alliance Defending Freedom legal team. “Specifically, any IRS attempt to censor a pastor’s sermon from the pulpit is unconstitutional.

“That’s why Alliance Defending Freedom started Pulpit Freedom Sunday, to protect a pastor’s right to speak freely from the pulpit without fearing government censorship or control.”

ADF said: “After all, it’s the job of the pastor and the church leadership not the IRS to decide what is said from the pulpit. No pastor should ever fear IRS censorship or punishment when he stands in the pulpit to preach.”

In a conference call regarding the effort, Pastor John Hagee of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio agreed that no church has ever lost its 501(c)3 status for teaching Bible principals.

Hagee says that every Sunday is “Pulpit Freedom Sunday,” and it’s time that pastors in this country “choose truth over popularity.”


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This is great...but it needs to be 150,000.
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I agree!

Maybe other's will follow suit!
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Here is a link to the 501c3 of how it works.
[link to www.guymalone.com]

Religious or not, it is censorship. Period.

Nobody is making anyone sit in a pew like they have to with public schools.

The church has the right to the 1st Amendment and responsibility to educate its congregation on political affairs the congregation lives with in that community and state, as well as the world at large. If the people don't like it, they can leave.

A church is NOT a gov't or public school building.
Therefore, gov't has no business censoring them with tax breaks (or bribe if you will) to silence them against the system with which we live.

Edit: Thank you for posting this OP! 5* hf
It is a subject I've known has needed attention for many years.
Clearly this 501 was established to keep the public informed solely by the establishment media. burnit
IMO it has been detrimental for Christian's, and our society for decades.

Last Edited by goldielucks on 10/04/2012 08:55 PM
"Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
With no hesitation, Franklin replied, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
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I do not pray that God is on my side.

I pray that I am on God's side.
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Here is a link to the 501c3 of how it works.
[link to www.guymalone.com]

Religious or not, it is censorship. Period.

Nobody is making anyone sit in a pew like they have to with public schools.

The church has the right to the 1st Amendment and responsibility to educate its congregation on political affairs the congregation lives with in that community and state, as well as the world at large. If the people don't like it, they can leave.

A church is NOT a gov't or public school building.
Therefore, gov't has no business censoring them with tax breaks (or bribe if you will) to silence them against the system with which we live.

Edit: Thank you for posting this OP! 5* hf
It is a subject I've known has needed attention for many years.
Clearly this 501 was established to keep the public informed solely by the establishment media. burnit
IMO it has been detrimental for Christian's, and our society for decades.
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Great informative post!

Thanks for posting!!
Susie

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I do not pray that God is on my side.

I pray that I am on God's side.
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Amen to that!!bump

Last Edited by christian on 10/04/2012 09:13 PM
Susie

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I'm just happy to see some men of God finally stand up against the controlling "money changers" and their collectors...rumble

Last Edited by goldielucks on 10/04/2012 09:12 PM
"Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
With no hesitation, Franklin replied, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
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I'm just happy to see some men of God finally stand up against the controlling "money changers" and their collectors...rumble
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YES!!!

Waking up from slumber!!
Susie

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I'm just happy to see some men of God finally stand up against the controlling "money changers" and their collectors...rumble
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YES!!!

Waking up from slumber!!
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It can't happen fast enough! :)

Oh yeah, +1 to you for sharing this hf

Last Edited by goldielucks on 10/05/2012 02:24 AM
"Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
With no hesitation, Franklin replied, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
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Re: This Sunday 1,500 MINISTERS TO PREACH ON POLITICS. Movement challenges IRS ban on naming names from pulpit
This Sunday, October 7, 2012 has been publicized as “Pulpit Freedom Sunday” where pastors and priests are encouraged to speak up on contemporary issues, unafraid of what opponents may say about the separation of church and state and unafraid of their IRS exemption. A powerful letter from Alan Sears, head of the Christian attorney group Alliance Defending Freedom, follows at the end:

The number of pastors standing up for their right to preach from their pulpits on politics is surging.

They call a ban on such speech a “cultural myth.”

In 2008, 35 pastors defied the IRS, which holds the position that church “organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.”

The number of pastors boldly opposing the IRS rule grew to 539 in 2011 and is expected to be more than 1,500 on Oct. 7, during what organizers are calling “Pulpit Freedom Sunday.”

The pastors find support and instructions on participating atpulpitfreedom.org, and they are backed by a legal team at the Alliance Defending Freedom.


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Maybe this can be the Lord's "October Surprise" :)
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All the churches that do this should loose their tax-exempt status for a period of five years beginning immediately. That would help the government tremendously because they'd be paying regular taxes on their income/donations, and property taxes in the counties and cities where they're located! Also, many large churches have multi-million dollar investment/saving accounts. They should be taxed on all of that income, effective immediately, as well.

Freedom to run your mouth about political matters comes with the cost of supporting the system. If you're going to be in it, then pay for the privilege like the rest of us do!
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Maybe if the Preachers in the 1920's would have opened their mouths about Hitler and his goons, there might not have been WW2, and the slaughter of millions of innocent people.

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